I've bought my TV due to your reviews 4 years ago. I don't know why but I still watch nearly every video of yours even though I don't plan on buying a new tv any time soon :D
Two years ago, when I bought my Sony xh90 80 inch, it was because of your review. I'm so happy to see how far this channel has come. Your unbiased, honest reviews of products is so fucking refreshing. I wish you nothing but success.
@@sj460162 It's the best purchase I've ever made, it didn't kill my budget and it has everything it needs to run my PS5 optimally. Budget friendly with amazing picture and the newer models are better then the one i currently have in that series, but it still kicks ass
Vincent, thank you for another very excellent and informative video! Sony's first A95L allocation/shipments in all screen sizes will start the week of August 21st to select dealers in the USA.
Thorough reviews and always precise, informative and not afraid to highlight any faults or issues. The innuendos always make me smile, keep up the good work and thank you Vincent.
You know Vincent, I really like how straight to the point you go from the start, I hate most of the intro from youtubers cause they talk like 2 or 3 min about things unnecessary, like they always start about something stupid as " today I will show you this product, I bought all kind of products from this brand before, this one I was not sure I need it... now I've been using for X month,... " and blabla DUDE WE DON'T CARE! Title is self explanatory already, there is no need to introduce the product, go straight to the point with your experience with it. Most of the youtubers still can't grasp this basic concept
I can't wait for the Sony A95L to finally hit shelves here in Canada. It's definitely the TV I've been most looking forward to purchasing for a home theatre environment.
Thank you for mentioning how fast the brightness fades. That's the most important thing for me when searching for a new OLED. I want stable brightness when playing games and watching movies.
@@loki76You would be wrong. Vincent said the A95L measured 1349 Nits on a 10% window in its most accurate mode. My A95K measures 1000 Nits in that same window, and all panels vary, but nowhere near 200% more brightness, and that’s why they revised that statement. The S95C uses the exact same panel, and it just barely gets brighter than the S95B…
The panel isn’t everything though. Sony has much better processing and heat control than Samsung. I am curious how this model works on pc though, that’s what I’m interested in. It’s this one vs the lg g3.
Yea but don't forget, he is so precise, that if he finds something wrong with the tvs, he waits till the quick fix patch is released, and only then posts the final review. Happened before.
Seen all the other reviews of this TV but waiting for yours! If this comes out top, will then wait for the price gauging of UK consumers to subside before taking the plunge ...
@@IntotheFurther. *2024 S95D will match or exceed the performance of the A95L and will be lower priced and launch in February. Maybe A95L's successor will launch much earlier as well like in March.*
Vincent!! thank you for giving us the new details Personally I would have pushed the higher apl windows and kept the highlights at a more modest level. It will still be a terrific set though
I’ve literally checked RUclips daily for the past 2 months waiting for Vincent’s take on the A95L. And especially the G3 vs A95L. Thank you so much, we await the final in depth comparison! But what was your initial take on the comparison between these 2 super beasts?
A95k 900 nits at 10% vs A95L 1349 nits 10% on par with s95c peak brightness I’ll will wait for final numbers when retail model get reviewed, so far so good only downside is 2 hdmi 2.1 or deal with Samsons quality control, broken bt2020 and firmware updates that will dim your tv
Doubt they’ll ever dim the tv again after such backlash last year! Also Sammy gives you access to the service menu. Couple adjustments to Ana peak and boom you have the brightest oled to date!
with the S95C - Keep it offline and use AV Forum BT2020 settings - it looks great and you don't need to switch to P3 ever. Save some money, but it isn't as pretty with the UI or finish and a touch short on motion. That is the choice haha.
I went with the s95b as my first OLED and the firmware makes me regret my buy. Horrible navigation, remote, menus, source changes etc. picture quality is really nice but I’ll never go Samsung again. Operating system feels like a cheap knockoff
@@KopfdesRiesen That was Exactly how I felt with the Samsung 90T and 90A (95a, here in the States in 2021 without the 1 connect box). I went with the Song 77 a80j and I was "Home" again. Full size remote that year, no retarded menus/interface/os ect... Better picture and processing than both LG and Samsung, and motion too, imo. Btw the 77in a80 was a badass that year, nearly the a90j, with the EV0 panel and Gloss finish instead of matte, also Sony's surface audio sounds better to me as well.
Great Video A95l in 77 Inch i waiting to comming on the market in Germany and interessing how great is in realtion to the lg g3 samsung s95c and from panasonic the mwz2004 who hold the crown in the oled this Year :)??? gratulation to the 506.000 follower on youtube :). I love your videos and so cool to see how many details Television and all.
Vincent I have a Sony 77" A95L on order in the USA. I am looking forward to your full review of the 77"..... Hopefully it will live up to expectations.
Sony A95L 77" is listed as $9495 in Australia, G3, you can buy around $6500, S95C around similar mark. They might make nice TV's but not at those inflated prices in Australia.
@RobertK1993 How are they supposed to sell at those prices? G3 and S95C, if you wait for sales, you can buy at almost 40%-50% less money, and G3 looks way better on the wall than Sony. Picture alone won't sell.
Sony has always been the premium brand, they dominated last year with the A95k, Samsungs S95B was subpar in comparison, if people cant afford the A95L, they can always buy Sony's "lower end" OLEDs that feature the same XR processor - which in itself is leaps ahead of any other TVs cinematic processing. A95L is an enthusiast level TV, it isnt for your average joe who watches Married at first sight. I wouldn't even classify a G3 or S95C enthusiast grade, its more like high end. Its like buying an RTX 4090 vs a 4080, or a Lamborghini Aventador vs Lamborghini Hurucan. Also I agree with your Aussie comment, eveything in Australia thats bleeding edge is always a ripoff.
@@BNR_248 I disagree with you, there is no substantial difference between A95K and S95B. You can fine tune S95B to look just as good as A95K. It is not always about the processor, other things matter, for example anti-reflective attributes, the thickness of the the TV, stand and wall brackets etc. Sony Does not tick all the boxes. Lower end Sony OLEDs are like shiny mirror surfaces, unless you watch in total darkness, unwatchable during day time with a bit of natural light. Sony are way overpriced in Australia, if the prices were the same as the USA market, they would have been worth considering. There is only a price difference of about $200 in USA whereas in Australia it is priced thousands more than a Samung or LG. They are not in a different league to LG or Samsung as you make it, they are not enthusiast grade, that is a lot of B.S.
Thank you for the review I fond interesting that Sony basically waited for LG and Samsung to release their TVs so that Sony can make sure their TV performs better! Also too bad that WE are not in the US!
Great video and informative as usual, Vincent. The price here ln this country has gone up due to inflation and weak Swedish Krona. I have been waiting so long for this L version and your test. I think we are many that are very interested in how you do a complete calibration of a TV, meaning the different steps from the first step to the last one. Surrounding lights, darkness etc. Thank you for your work All the best
@HDTVTest did you ask Sony why they not using the Calman Ready features of the Pentonic 1000? and whether they intend to add support for it & 3D LUT via a software update?
The 4K120Hz DV not being implemented on release makes me uneasy. Brings to mind the firmware update that A90J owners were promised “shortly after release” that would implement VRR. That took ages as well. Everything else about this tv sounds amazing and I’m definitely going to get a 65”! What I don’t understand is why Sony hasn’t implemented DV straight away? The Pentonic chipset supports it so what’s the issue? I’d really like a video on technical stuff like that. Also: I prefer G&T for calming down as well 😂
@@KopfdesRiesenSo far, the Sony PlayStation 5 does not support Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates. That appears to be exclusive to the Xbox Series X and/or Series S. Second, this is the first time that Sony made a TV that is capable of Dolby Vision at high frame rates, so Sony might need to develop the firmware required for its own Cognitive Processor XR video coprocessor to properly handle Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates.
This isn't a release version so it's possible the TVs will have it by then, but it's a legit reason to not preorder (among other reasons) if that's important to you.
Mediatek have been a disappointment Given that Sony after a few bios updates will have it going well - and Panasonic will have it mastered by next year to squeeze the most out - They won't use the 2000 - too expensive - and will think they will want to master the 1000 well across their range - being snappier is great - Panasonic when they use it should get better graduation , and control. Thankfully receivers now can do full bandwidth passthrough - shame Sony is so expensive in my country - but if they do a 83" QD-OLED next year - may bite the bullet - 1500nits is enough - 90% BT2020 is enough as little content beyond that - and colours still look great anyway on a Panasonic or G3 MLA - and unless sets side by side - you wouldn't know what you are missing and in 95% plus content -SDR and HDR - will look pretty much the same no matter MLA or QD-OLED
I have concerns about the Pentonic 2000 SoCs. First, the marketing material shows that the Pentonic 2000 is aimed at 8K at 120 Hz displays, and does not mention the ability to drive 4K displays. Can it even drive 4K displays, and if it can, is it limited to 4K at 120 Hz instead of 4K at 144 Hz which the Pentonic 1000 can do? Second, are all 4 HDMI 2.1 ports mentioned in the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material full speed or not? The Pentonic 1000’s marketing material including its web page previously advertised “HDMI 2.1 x4” just like the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material including its web page is still doing. This is technically true since all 4 ports comply with the HDMI 2.1 standard, but that standard does not require that full HDMI 2.1 speed be implemented in order to be seen as compliant. However, this could be seen as a lie by omission by leaving out the fact that full 48 Gbps speed is not implemented. The Pentonic 1000’s website was revised to remove the “x4” to obscure the lie by omission once Vincent Teoh exposed the lie by omission in another video. MediaTek also complained that implementing 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports is impossible without a second chip. So does the Pentonic 2000 SoC implement 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports due to having enough room due to using TSMC’s smaller N7 process that promises smaller transistors that could possibly allow all HDMI inputs to implement all current HDMI 2.1 speeds, or are 2 HDMI inputs limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds?
@@jnvivian Considering Pentonic 2000 uses Cortex A76 and G57 compared to Cortex A73 and G52 in the Pentonic 1000 I'm sure it will support full 4x HDMI 2.1
Highest brightness I was able to measure from my A95K in december 28 2022 was was 910, but now it peaks at 743 nits. Makes me wonder if 20% reduction will happen over time to A95L as well. I'd love to see more long term testing in your reviews, as I never saw such things mentioned before. The biggest thing I'm disappointed about with A95L is that Sony still lacks HGIG / accurate tonemapping off mode. edit: 743 nit measurement was actually from, 3 months ago, re-tested now and it has declined down to 673 nits.
@@ejdhdjejejebdnem Same story for Mini LED (20% in first year) but no way on OLED in first 12 month! It has to be a "software-feature" like on last years Samsung OLEDs😁
How is the BFI at 24p? From experience there is a huge difference between 24p and 50/60p BFI with these QD OLEDs. The flickering appears to be minimal at 24p with BFI, and the light loss isn't as bad either.
For 24p, why can't they just hold the frame on the screen until the next frame is displayed? This is a huge problem with oled....their UN-cinematic dealing with 24 frame motion! I have an old Panasonic plasma that doubles 24p to 48Hz and the motion for film is fantastic...why can't they do something for this sticking issue? Use AI or something...we don't need interpolation...we need the frame to be held longer.
what makes this issue confusion is people using the words "stutter" and "flicker" interchangeably. They are two very different things. "Flicker" would be, in the case of 24 FPS content on a 120Hz display, 1 frame of content followed by 4 black frames. Obviously they don't do this because the image would be so dim and flickery it would be unwatchable. People should say "stutter" instead of "flicker", because this is a sample and hold display (unless they enable BFI. I don't even know if you can enable BFI for 24 FPS content but if you did it would probably be terrible)
@@WilliamSmith-hf8um Even at 120Hz where they play the same frame 5 times, it doesn't matter...the last frame is displayed so quickly that stutter will happen in certain panning shots. My mother has a crappy and slow tcl, and yet it's butter smooth in 24fps content...the slow and crappy panel pays dividends there. With AI and all these other technologies , this better be the last generation of OLED with this egregious problem. I have held off from buying one for several years now and this issue is the sticking point for me. Either slow down the panel or find a way to continue displaying a frame on the screen...no interpolation or other such nonsense, just show me the 24fps as I would see in a theater.
@@lgmnowkondo938 According to RTINGS, OLEDs hold the frames longer on the screen because they are so fast in transitioning from one frame to another. The reason that slow TCL is apparently so good in 24 Hz motion is because it spends more time transitioning between frames due to its slow panel, so it spends less time holding the frame in a static state. Perhaps you need to enable some soap opera effect to mitigate the stutter on TVs with fast OLED panels whose speed exacerbates the stutter on low frame rate content to simulate the slower panel.
I’m about to buy a new tv, should I buy a LG C3 or a Samsung S95C or a Sony A80L. I’m probably going to just get a 55” because it’s for my bedroom. My bedroom is fairly dark, I watch a lot of movies and TV shows and I game fairly often but I usually game on a dedicated monitor. I would like the TV to play nicely with my Apple products. Given all of this information which of the 3 TV’s I named would you recommend for me? Also, do you have a recommendation outside of those 3 but around the same price point/feature set. Thank you!
The Samsung does not play well with the Apple TV in sdr …. Lg has no issues … but if it’s c3 vs s95c and they are same price s95c better tech … maybe you meant g3
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ so s95c>c3? What about s95c vs g3? Idk why I thought the G3 was a considerably more expensive TV than the rest so I wasn’t including it. It appears the G3 is the same price as the S95C, and it’s the C3 that’s considerably cheaper than either. C3 is $1499, G3/S95C are both $2299. Just based off the price difference alone that may have just made my decision for me. $800 is a massive difference in price. I must have seen the price for S95B.
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ would you say at $800 dollars cheaper the LG C3 is a good choice for me even if the Samsung is a slightly better TV? Thanks so much for your response.
The frustrating thing with these new OLED's is the stagnation regarding larger sizes. I've been waiting two years plus for a 95-100" next-gen OLED for my home theater room to replace my 83" A90J. 77" just isn't large enough.
C’mon Vincent..🤨..only 12?🧐 I could’ve watched some 4 episode of my favorite show in the same amount of time AND fiddled with the settings while doing so. 😌 | Ok jokes aside I luv..🤔.your work m8!..yes that’s what I luv..the most. Always a pleasure checking out if there’s any noteworthy developments between brands. Of course there almost never are..still interesting though. So thanks 🙏 for the content! ✌️🖖
Hey Vincent, not sure if you were able to test it or not, but does the A95L suffer from the same ASBL that can’t be turned off as past Sony OLEDs? Appreciate your great work
@@jackdubs25 yeah I knew sdr gaming was an issue, as it is for most OLEDs. I’m wondering about HDR/DV scenes like the notorious house of the dragon scene Vincent showed.
Could someone tell me if I need a UPS/Surge protector? I live in Germany we don’t have that much power fluctuations here. So I am not sure if I should buy one or to dimply directly plug into Turnsaal socket. I heard that surge protectors actually are not recommended by Sony as it has built in SP and it can work incorrectly if the TV is connected to external SP as well
U mean this Sony chip set has limitations to produce 4k120hz? If so that’s a bummer cuz it’s a lauded chip set in it? What about the same scenarios in LG G3 Is the G3 chipset also limited in a similar way?
@@leperlord7078 No, it’s a joke about how Sony TV’s have handled gaming features in the past. The X900H was promised with VRR at launch, and didn’t get an update till two years after the fact. Sony even at one point tried to cancel it entirely and only feature it on their newest models, but caved due to backlash. The other comment was again a joke about how Sony TV’s like the X900H had a bug (that was never fixed) that resulted in the 4K 120hz mode only rendering half the resolution and resulted in the 4K 120hz mode being a blurry mess. I still don’t think these latest Sony TV’s support Freesync/Gsync either, so they are still far behind in terms of gaming features when compared to LG or Samsung.
It will be a tough choice between A95L 77" and X95M 85" next year when the prices are pretty similar! Will keep the X95K 65" for a bright room TV in living room and set up one of those babies in the mancave.
Since two days I own the 77 A95L. I discovered a strange BUG: I am using the TV's Sat Tuner and the TV App. If I open up the guide it often stutters and the little picture of the channel in the right upper corner disappears. When I close the guide it seems that there is some extreme oversharpening of the picture. It seems reality creation is out of control (which I have disabled). I have to change picture Mode to normalize the sharpness. @Vincent: Maybe you read this and can confirm/take a look on
Many thanks Vincent. I respect your ability, knowledge and professionalism. Unfortunately, I live in NYC and cannot take advantage of your/ Crampton and Moore's custom calibration service. Would you or Crampton and Moore recommend anyone in my area?
When it comes to sustained brightness, how long is sustained? I.e, if you put a 10% white patch, how long will it keep 1300 nits? 10 sec? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
Ngl … for all the hype surrounding this tv does anyone else feel a bit underwhelmed after that video. I mean no doubt we need to wait for the full release but still feel a bit disappointed. Please resolve that whole 4K Dolby vision 120 issue. Also at this rate I don’t think we’ll ever see 4 hdmi 2.1 ports 😕 Also a measurement of 243 full screen brightness is still lower than the 264 measured in the S95C.
Are we best to wait for 2024 panels - My TV is on last legs as its over 8 years old and im looking to get new best flagship from 2023 but if 2024 will be a generational leap I may hold off if I can
Why those this tv go down on resolution to 1080p when i anable hdr on my ps5? If i put the resolution up to 2160 on my ps5 the tv will kick hdr out, leaving it on SDR
Wondering of the firmware update featuring Dolby Vision on all HDMI input settings will also come to the A90J. Currently facing the problem that I'm running a Sony UHD Player and Apple TV that feature Dolby Vision and are currently on HDMI 3+4, the only HDMI inputs that feature the Dolby Vision setting. But I need them on 1/2 or 3, since my recently acquired PS5 supports 120Hz/VRR, which is only supported on HDMI 3+4. I'm pretty sure that HDMI 1+2 also could handle Dolby Vision protocol...
Curious to see, at around the 4:19 mark, why there are 3D options on the menu screen - 3D side by side scaling, for example... is this going to be a return of 3D to TVs...?? Or is this something else altogether...?? If they DO enable 3D again, then this TV would be the perfect TV for me!! 3D on an OLED would be awesome - especially at 77 inches!! 😁 If not, then that's just a painful tease... 😐
@@KopfdesRiesen Is there...?? Sadly, I have no use for laptops - and my current Panasonic 50inch TV is awesome, but just too damn small, now. I will miss 3D if they don't bring it back - and will have to wait for such a time when I can have a projector (as a lot of them still do 3D). But that would be years from now, unfortunately. In the meantime, once I upgrade, my 3D movie collection will just sit there gathering dust. 😔 However, if laptops AND projectors still offer it, then I see no reason why they shouldn't re-introduce that option in TVs, especially as the quality and tech of them are so much better now! I live in hope! 😊
I've bought my TV due to your reviews 4 years ago.
I don't know why but I still watch nearly every video of yours even though I don't plan on buying a new tv any time soon :D
But we also acting like we are planning to buy one every year 😀
Im buying a80l 83“. I got a heatsink and is glossy.
I've been watching for years and I've never bought a TV in my life.
@@ActuallyJamesS 😳😳😳
Excellent Fomo
Two years ago, when I bought my Sony xh90 80 inch, it was because of your review. I'm so happy to see how far this channel has come. Your unbiased, honest reviews of products is so fucking refreshing. I wish you nothing but success.
Are you still happy with your Sony tv? Im thinking about a new Sony
@@sj460162 It's the best purchase I've ever made, it didn't kill my budget and it has everything it needs to run my PS5 optimally. Budget friendly with amazing picture and the newer models are better then the one i currently have in that series, but it still kicks ass
Vincent, thank you for another very excellent and informative video! Sony's first A95L allocation/shipments in all screen sizes will start the week of August 21st to select dealers in the USA.
You will probably be the first to get them!
Thanks for dropping your advertising in his video. Real classy move.
Thorough reviews and always precise, informative and not afraid to highlight any faults or issues. The innuendos always make me smile, keep up the good work and thank you Vincent.
You know Vincent, I really like how straight to the point you go from the start, I hate most of the intro from youtubers cause they talk like 2 or 3 min about things unnecessary, like they always start about something stupid as " today I will show you this product, I bought all kind of products from this brand before, this one I was not sure I need it... now I've been using for X month,... " and blabla DUDE WE DON'T CARE! Title is self explanatory already, there is no need to introduce the product, go straight to the point with your experience with it. Most of the youtubers still can't grasp this basic concept
sometimes i have to go back from the start bc i feel i missed an intro.. I get used to watch all youtubers loong intro sequence..
Or when they force in cringey jokes
Hey Vincent, make sure to hunt down Sony about the Calman Ready feature. We need that 3D LUT functionality.
The only TV reviewer I trust
+1, Vincent GOAT 🐐
Andrew robinson is also one to trust
@@nickthompson7369🥱🥱🥱
Like the saying goes:
"Second place is the first loser."
fact
He is the Tv God
I've been WAITING for the reviews to start dropping on this tv
1. 0:00 - HDR Peak Brightness
2. 0:42 - Latest QD-OLED 2.0 Panel
3. 1:54 - Mediatek Pentonic 1000 Chipset
4. 2:08 - Revamped User Interface
5. 3:00 - New "Professional" Picture Mode
6. 3:45 - New "Calm" Picture Mode
7. 4:07 - Global Picture Settings
8. 5:10 - Independent "Smoothness" Settings
9. 7:22 - 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision Status
10. 8:36 - VRR Input Lag/2.1 ports/No HGIG/
11. 9:32 - No 3D LUT Calibration/Calibration Findings/Sponsor
12. 12:05 - 77 inch Sony A95L Discussion
Thank so much.
I can't wait for the Sony A95L to finally hit shelves here in Canada. It's definitely the TV I've been most looking forward to purchasing for a home theatre environment.
Thank you for mentioning how fast the brightness fades. That's the most important thing for me when searching for a new OLED. I want stable brightness when playing games and watching movies.
While I'm out of the market, Vincent you continue to rock and I appreciate your consistent work sir, keep it up!
Sony A95L Bravo vincent.I can't wait for it to hit the shelves
Nice, the video is chaptered now. Good way to navigate. Great review Vincent.
Sony revised its claim regarding the 200% brightness vs the A95K. It's now 200% vs 'conventional OLED' in their latest press release.
Well it seems it is 200% more than an A95K. Isn't A95K below 1000 nits. So in the vivid mode preset it's almost double.
@@loki76You would be wrong. Vincent said the A95L measured 1349 Nits on a 10% window in its most accurate mode. My A95K measures 1000 Nits in that same window, and all panels vary, but nowhere near 200% more brightness, and that’s why they revised that statement.
The S95C uses the exact same panel, and it just barely gets brighter than the S95B…
The panel isn’t everything though. Sony has much better processing and heat control than Samsung. I am curious how this model works on pc though, that’s what I’m interested in. It’s this one vs the lg g3.
Only about a month or less till we get some actual reviews on the A95L. My guess, Vincent will be one of the first, if not the first to do so.
Yea but don't forget, he is so precise, that if he finds something wrong with the tvs, he waits till the quick fix patch is released, and only then posts the final review. Happened before.
It's out in August
Seen all the other reviews of this TV but waiting for yours! If this comes out top, will then wait for the price gauging of UK consumers to subside before taking the plunge ...
*It's August now and A95L hasn't launched yet. Might as well wait for 2024 QD-OLED TVs.*
Which will come out at this same time next year so it’s still over a year away. Might as well wait til 2030 lol
@@IntotheFurther. *2024 S95D will match or exceed the performance of the A95L and will be lower priced and launch in February. Maybe A95L's successor will launch much earlier as well like in March.*
@@bushgreen260 But then you have to buy a Samsung TV.
The Sony A95L preorders go up on August 21st 2023 and it releases on August 28th 2023
Vincent!! thank you for giving us the new details
Personally I would have pushed the higher apl windows and kept the highlights at a more modest level. It will still be a terrific set though
I’ve literally checked RUclips daily for the past 2 months waiting for Vincent’s take on the A95L. And especially the G3 vs A95L. Thank you so much, we await the final in depth comparison! But what was your initial take on the comparison between these 2 super beasts?
Has A95L released in the market yet?
It's called turn on Notifications.
@@manoharreddy8613Did you even watch the video?? 😂😂😂
@@PSYCHOV3N0Myou’re asking wayyyy too much of some of these lazy people…..
A95k 900 nits at 10% vs A95L 1349 nits 10% on par with s95c peak brightness I’ll will wait for final numbers when retail model get reviewed, so far so good only downside is 2 hdmi 2.1 or deal with Samsons quality control, broken bt2020 and firmware updates that will dim your tv
Doubt they’ll ever dim the tv again after such backlash last year! Also Sammy gives you access to the service menu. Couple adjustments to Ana peak and boom you have the brightest oled to date!
with the S95C - Keep it offline and use AV Forum BT2020 settings - it looks great and you don't need to switch to P3 ever. Save some money, but it isn't as pretty with the UI or finish and a touch short on motion. That is the choice haha.
I went with the s95b as my first OLED and the firmware makes me regret my buy. Horrible navigation, remote, menus, source changes etc. picture quality is really nice but I’ll never go Samsung again. Operating system feels like a cheap knockoff
@@KopfdesRiesen Exactly. Big difference to Sony. Samsung is like plastic fake tv. But Sony is bad for gaming.
@@KopfdesRiesen That was Exactly how I felt with the Samsung 90T and 90A (95a, here in the States in 2021 without the 1 connect box). I went with the Song 77 a80j and I was "Home" again. Full size remote that year, no retarded menus/interface/os ect... Better picture and processing than both LG and Samsung, and motion too, imo. Btw the 77in a80 was a badass that year, nearly the a90j, with the EV0 panel and Gloss finish instead of matte, also Sony's surface audio sounds better to me as well.
Always learning with your detailed technical analysis and comparisons on TV's. Thank you Vincent!
Vincent, great in depth short look. As always your a benefit to the industry.
You're or you are.
NOT your.
Great Video A95l in 77 Inch i waiting to comming on the market in Germany and interessing how great is in realtion to the lg g3 samsung s95c and from panasonic the mwz2004 who hold the crown in the oled this Year :)??? gratulation to the 506.000 follower on youtube :). I love your videos and so cool to see how many details Television and all.
I'm not even going to buy this TV but I watched the video start to finish
fascinating stuff Vincent!
He is a great comedian, his jokes cracking even better because his attitude is always so over correct and serious
Vincent is the man! Thanks a lot for the hard work and the quality of the videos!
broh that is alot improvements hopefully 2024 entire lineup will using those mediatek pentonic with miniLED tech also
Vincent I have a Sony 77" A95L on order in the USA. I am looking forward to your full review of the 77"..... Hopefully it will live up to expectations.
Sony A95L 77" is listed as $9495 in Australia, G3, you can buy around $6500, S95C around similar mark. They might make nice TV's but not at those inflated prices in Australia.
Well it comes down in sales and Australia is a rip off.
@RobertK1993 How are they supposed to sell at those prices? G3 and S95C, if you wait for sales, you can buy at almost 40%-50% less money, and G3 looks way better on the wall than Sony. Picture alone won't sell.
Sony has always been the premium brand, they dominated last year with the A95k, Samsungs S95B was subpar in comparison, if people cant afford the A95L, they can always buy Sony's "lower end" OLEDs that feature the same XR processor - which in itself is leaps ahead of any other TVs cinematic processing. A95L is an enthusiast level TV, it isnt for your average joe who watches Married at first sight. I wouldn't even classify a G3 or S95C enthusiast grade, its more like high end. Its like buying an RTX 4090 vs a 4080, or a Lamborghini Aventador vs Lamborghini Hurucan. Also I agree with your Aussie comment, eveything in Australia thats bleeding edge is always a ripoff.
Doesn't help the Aussie dollar keeps dropping against the usd. Costs are insane.
@@BNR_248 I disagree with you, there is no substantial difference between A95K and S95B. You can fine tune S95B to look just as good as A95K. It is not always about the processor, other things matter, for example anti-reflective attributes, the thickness of the the TV, stand and wall brackets etc. Sony Does not tick all the boxes. Lower end Sony OLEDs are like shiny mirror surfaces, unless you watch in total darkness, unwatchable during day time with a bit of natural light. Sony are way overpriced in Australia, if the prices were the same as the USA market, they would have been worth considering. There is only a price difference of about $200 in USA whereas in Australia it is priced thousands more than a Samung or LG. They are not in a different league to LG or Samsung as you make it, they are not enthusiast grade, that is a lot of B.S.
Thank you for the review I fond interesting that Sony basically waited for LG and Samsung to release their TVs so that Sony can make sure their TV performs better!
Also too bad that WE are not in the US!
Looks good. Can't wait for a comparison to the LG G3.
Peak Nits graph already with Panny MZ2000. Great. Looking forward for review.
My go to channel before buying, thanks Vinnie 😊
Great video and informative as usual, Vincent. The price here ln this country has gone up due to inflation and weak Swedish Krona.
I have been waiting so long for this L version and your test.
I think we are many that are very interested in how you do a complete calibration of a TV, meaning the different steps from the first step to the last one.
Surrounding lights, darkness etc.
Thank you for your work
All the best
Sweden should just switch to the Euro already
You are quite right !
You had me at "enemies lurking in the dark"
"After 10 seconds, brightness will plummet...Which is as short lived as Taylor Swift relationships" This made my day! You're awesome!
@HDTVTest did you ask Sony why they not using the Calman Ready features of the Pentonic 1000? and whether they intend to add support for it & 3D LUT via a software update?
0:25 in and we are shading TS. Nice.
Brilliant information, cleared tons of my doubts. Thank you!
When will you review the Panasonic MZ2000?
The 4K120Hz DV not being implemented on release makes me uneasy. Brings to mind the firmware update that A90J owners were promised “shortly after release” that would implement VRR. That took ages as well. Everything else about this tv sounds amazing and I’m definitely going to get a 65”!
What I don’t understand is why Sony hasn’t implemented DV straight away? The Pentonic chipset supports it so what’s the issue? I’d really like a video on technical stuff like that.
Also: I prefer G&T for calming down as well 😂
I guess there is no real need for high refreshrate Dolby vision gaming because of the lack of support titles but I get it
@@KopfdesRiesenSo far, the Sony PlayStation 5 does not support Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates. That appears to be exclusive to the Xbox Series X and/or Series S. Second, this is the first time that Sony made a TV that is capable of Dolby Vision at high frame rates, so Sony might need to develop the firmware required for its own Cognitive Processor XR video coprocessor to properly handle Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates.
This isn't a release version so it's possible the TVs will have it by then, but it's a legit reason to not preorder (among other reasons) if that's important to you.
I pre-ordered the A95L 77 inch. It says delivery August 22th. Can't wait! 😊 I'm pretty confident it will be TV of the year 🎉
not surprised to see you here. lol. us Singularity guys really do think the same lol
@@TechDoneRight1 😆
It better be "TV of the year" given it costs more than its competitors, at least here in North America.
Cool glasses, Vincent!
I'd love to see something like that "calm mode" on other brands tvs. I already use equivalent modes on my computer and smartphone.
I've been eyeing the 77A95L, but I took an oath I will never buy another TV until my 75Z9D dies, and to this day it's still going strong. 😀
So far things looking good for the A95L. 😊
How subtly and with a serious face, he judged Taylor Swift 😅
Shake it off.
he cant judged Taylor Swift with just 500k youtube subscriber.
@@amirulasyrafjoeI don’t have any subscribers and I CAN 🎉 TALENTLESS POP 🎉
@@amirulasyrafjoebut he have 506k
Taylor take shit from no one. When she's done with ya, u r out.
Before the end of the year I will for sure be getting this tv
As always great video. Just one question why Sony is launching 2023 OLED model so late? We are almost near holiday season.
Looks like Pentonic 2000 will be the real upgrade worth buying
Yes exactly what I was thinking 😂🤦
Mediatek have been a disappointment Given that Sony after a few bios updates will have it going well - and Panasonic will have it mastered by next year to squeeze the most out - They won't use the 2000 - too expensive - and will think they will want to master the 1000 well across their range - being snappier is great - Panasonic when they use it should get better graduation , and control. Thankfully receivers now can do full bandwidth passthrough - shame Sony is so expensive in my country - but if they do a 83" QD-OLED next year - may bite the bullet - 1500nits is enough - 90% BT2020 is enough as little content beyond that - and colours still look great anyway on a Panasonic or G3 MLA - and unless sets side by side - you wouldn't know what you are missing and in 95% plus content -SDR and HDR - will look pretty much the same no matter MLA or QD-OLED
Shouldn't Sony have used that in 2023 4K Bravia TVs
I have concerns about the Pentonic 2000 SoCs.
First, the marketing material shows that the Pentonic 2000 is aimed at 8K at 120 Hz displays, and does not mention the ability to drive 4K displays. Can it even drive 4K displays, and if it can, is it limited to 4K at 120 Hz instead of 4K at 144 Hz which the Pentonic 1000 can do?
Second, are all 4 HDMI 2.1 ports mentioned in the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material full speed or not? The Pentonic 1000’s marketing material including its web page previously advertised “HDMI 2.1 x4” just like the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material including its web page is still doing. This is technically true since all 4 ports comply with the HDMI 2.1 standard, but that standard does not require that full HDMI 2.1 speed be implemented in order to be seen as compliant. However, this could be seen as a lie by omission by leaving out the fact that full 48 Gbps speed is not implemented. The Pentonic 1000’s website was revised to remove the “x4” to obscure the lie by omission once Vincent Teoh exposed the lie by omission in another video. MediaTek also complained that implementing 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports is impossible without a second chip. So does the Pentonic 2000 SoC implement 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports due to having enough room due to using TSMC’s smaller N7 process that promises smaller transistors that could possibly allow all HDMI inputs to implement all current HDMI 2.1 speeds, or are 2 HDMI inputs limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds?
@@jnvivian Considering Pentonic 2000 uses Cortex A76 and G57 compared to Cortex A73 and G52 in the Pentonic 1000 I'm sure it will support full 4x HDMI 2.1
Your reviews are great -- technical, detailed, and factual. Wish you didn't have to resort to the clickbait thumbnails though.
Is eARC still on one HDMI 2.1 ports? They could at least move eARC to a standard HDMI port.
Needs the 2.1 bandwidth. They should be adding more hdmi 2.1 ports. Even the middle level samsung TVs have all had hdmi 2.1 for a few years now.
I can’t wait for you to get your mits on one and totally dismantle it then put it back together better than it was !!! You R O C K ❤
To wind down at the end of the day I’ll take the gin ,you keep the tonic 🫷😬
What are the recommended settings for HDR10? The presets are different from DV and there are no suggestions online.
I have seen the whole vid,, but what is the improvement of A95L to a95k? can someone explain? i dont understand
I would say: 1) much brighter 2nd gen QDOLED tech, and 2) better screen setting options because of the improved processor
@hdtvtest why is the BFI frequence capped at 60hz?
T-Con limitation on the QD-OLED panel supplied by Samsung Display.
Highest brightness I was able to measure from my A95K in december 28 2022 was was 910, but now it peaks at 743 nits. Makes me wonder if 20% reduction will happen over time to A95L as well. I'd love to see more long term testing in your reviews, as I never saw such things mentioned before. The biggest thing I'm disappointed about with A95L is that Sony still lacks HGIG / accurate tonemapping off mode.
edit: 743 nit measurement was actually from, 3 months ago, re-tested now and it has declined down to 673 nits.
Lol really? Nearly 200 nit lost with those "superb" Sony Algos? 😂 I'm so proud that i didn't spend the extra bucks for Sony TVs 😂
pixels degradation of oleds over time are unavoidable, that's way i try to go back to mini leds.
@@ejdhdjejejebdnem Same story for Mini LED (20% in first year) but no way on OLED in first 12 month! It has to be a "software-feature" like on last years Samsung OLEDs😁
I doubt you lost that much brightness. I think you had a bad measurement or something else has changed. No tv loses that much in 9 months.
Don't update fools, who knows how they be nerfing with their updates!
How is the BFI at 24p? From experience there is a huge difference between 24p and 50/60p BFI with these QD OLEDs. The flickering appears to be minimal at 24p with BFI, and the light loss isn't as bad either.
I guess they won’t update the motionflow settings for older models? 5:33
For 24p, why can't they just hold the frame on the screen until the next frame is displayed? This is a huge problem with oled....their UN-cinematic dealing with 24 frame motion! I have an old Panasonic plasma that doubles 24p to 48Hz and the motion for film is fantastic...why can't they do something for this sticking issue? Use AI or something...we don't need interpolation...we need the frame to be held longer.
There has to be a technical reason for this. It seems like such an obvious solution.
what makes this issue confusion is people using the words "stutter" and "flicker" interchangeably. They are two very different things. "Flicker" would be, in the case of 24 FPS content on a 120Hz display, 1 frame of content followed by 4 black frames. Obviously they don't do this because the image would be so dim and flickery it would be unwatchable. People should say "stutter" instead of "flicker", because this is a sample and hold display (unless they enable BFI. I don't even know if you can enable BFI for 24 FPS content but if you did it would probably be terrible)
@@WilliamSmith-hf8um Even at 120Hz where they play the same frame 5 times, it doesn't matter...the last frame is displayed so quickly that stutter will happen in certain panning shots. My mother has a crappy and slow tcl, and yet it's butter smooth in 24fps content...the slow and crappy panel pays dividends there. With AI and all these other technologies , this better be the last generation of OLED with this egregious problem. I have held off from buying one for several years now and this issue is the sticking point for me. Either slow down the panel or find a way to continue displaying a frame on the screen...no interpolation or other such nonsense, just show me the 24fps as I would see in a theater.
@@lgmnowkondo938 According to RTINGS, OLEDs hold the frames longer on the screen because they are so fast in transitioning from one frame to another. The reason that slow TCL is apparently so good in 24 Hz motion is because it spends more time transitioning between frames due to its slow panel, so it spends less time holding the frame in a static state. Perhaps you need to enable some soap opera effect to mitigate the stutter on TVs with fast OLED panels whose speed exacerbates the stutter on low frame rate content to simulate the slower panel.
I’m about to buy a new tv, should I buy a LG C3 or a Samsung S95C or a Sony A80L. I’m probably going to just get a 55” because it’s for my bedroom. My bedroom is fairly dark, I watch a lot of movies and TV shows and I game fairly often but I usually game on a dedicated monitor. I would like the TV to play nicely with my Apple products. Given all of this information which of the 3 TV’s I named would you recommend for me? Also, do you have a recommendation outside of those 3 but around the same price point/feature set. Thank you!
LG G3 (not LG C3) or Samsung S95C
The Samsung does not play well with the Apple TV in sdr …. Lg has no issues … but if it’s c3 vs s95c and they are same price s95c better tech … maybe you meant g3
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ so s95c>c3? What about s95c vs g3? Idk why I thought the G3 was a considerably more expensive TV than the rest so I wasn’t including it. It appears the G3 is the same price as the S95C, and it’s the C3 that’s considerably cheaper than either. C3 is $1499, G3/S95C are both $2299. Just based off the price difference alone that may have just made my decision for me. $800 is a massive difference in price. I must have seen the price for S95B.
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ would you say at $800 dollars cheaper the LG C3 is a good choice for me even if the Samsung is a slightly better TV? Thanks so much for your response.
@@ChrisDavis333S95B is even cheaper, and I would definitely go for that way before the C3…
@1:48 can you advise what are those three TVs in order?
Not even 5 seconds and already throwing punches😂😂 "peace was never an option" 🤣🤣🤣
Please compare to Bravia 9. Dilemma is 77 inch a95l or 85 inch b9
Excellent content 👏🏽
The frustrating thing with these new OLED's is the stagnation regarding larger sizes. I've been waiting two years plus for a 95-100" next-gen OLED for my home theater room to replace my 83" A90J. 77" just isn't large enough.
LG G2 97" or LG M3 97"
@@rcclennii think he’s talking about QD OLEDS 🤣
@@justchilling4491 I agree we really need a 97" Panasonic QD OLED.
is the a90j 83” still a good buy? I don’t think I could afford the A95L on it’s full retail price on it’s debut..
@@jBstfu Yes, the 83" A90J is still a good buy.
Or Samsung S95C (only 77“)
LG G3 (available in 83“ but no MLA OLED)
What is the peak HDR brightness in game mode on the A95L? I heard it's dimmer in game mode compared to the presets outside of game mode.
C’mon Vincent..🤨..only 12?🧐 I could’ve watched some 4 episode of my favorite show in the same amount of time AND fiddled with the settings while doing so. 😌 | Ok jokes aside I luv..🤔.your work m8!..yes that’s what I luv..the most.
Always a pleasure checking out if there’s any noteworthy developments between brands. Of course there almost never are..still interesting though. So thanks 🙏 for the content!
✌️🖖
What device do you use for calibrating your TV?
Will you ever get a Z9K for review? Or the 85" X95l? Curious about that comparison
So you are telling me you did all that testing in 4hrs? That too at an unknown place without full used to setup. 👏
Hey Vincent, not sure if you were able to test it or not, but does the A95L suffer from the same ASBL that can’t be turned off as past Sony OLEDs? Appreciate your great work
Of course, it does. It's a Sony TV
I was wondering this too. Did the A95K?
@@Kung_Fu_Kenny the a95k had aggressive ASBL in SDR, especially in game mode. There was a little bit of ASBL in hdr gaming but was hardly noticeable
@@jackdubs25 yeah I knew sdr gaming was an issue, as it is for most OLEDs. I’m wondering about HDR/DV scenes like the notorious house of the dragon scene Vincent showed.
@@Kung_Fu_Kennyonly in hlg soccer games but just a bit but when thy make a close up of a player the slight dimming is gone
Hello.Is it true that only SDR can be calibrated in these TVs using the Calmann program?Calmann cannot calibrate HDR and Dolby Vision?
we wanted 2000 nits at 10% window and 400-500 nits in 100% window. Sony trolling us with 1% window brightness lol, good marketing thou.
Could someone tell me if I need a UPS/Surge protector? I live in Germany we don’t have that much power fluctuations here. So I am not sure if I should buy one or to dimply directly plug into Turnsaal socket. I heard that surge protectors actually are not recommended by Sony as it has built in SP and it can work incorrectly if the TV is connected to external SP as well
Let’s hope the DV 120hz update doesn’t become another X900H VRR update scenario.
4K120hz with Dolby Vision will work as intended and be a blurry mess due to chipset limitations.
U mean this Sony chip set has limitations to produce 4k120hz? If so that’s a bummer cuz it’s a lauded chip set in it? What about the same scenarios in LG G3 Is the G3 chipset also limited in a similar way?
@@leperlord7078 No, it’s a joke about how Sony TV’s have handled gaming features in the past. The X900H was promised with VRR at launch, and didn’t get an update till two years after the fact. Sony even at one point tried to cancel it entirely and only feature it on their newest models, but caved due to backlash.
The other comment was again a joke about how Sony TV’s like the X900H had a bug (that was never fixed) that resulted in the 4K 120hz mode only rendering half the resolution and resulted in the 4K 120hz mode being a blurry mess.
I still don’t think these latest Sony TV’s support Freesync/Gsync either, so they are still far behind in terms of gaming features when compared to LG or Samsung.
Can you do a video or short about OLED screens in iPhones? Does the burn-in also occurs there? And if not, why not?
Hi Vincent! Does the new Motion Settings finally solve the 50Hz Frameskipping Issue (intermittent Stutter in mixed Edits)?
I came here for the Taylor Swift diss track. Also nice video.
It will be a tough choice between A95L 77" and X95M 85" next year when the prices are pretty similar! Will keep the X95K 65" for a bright room TV in living room and set up one of those babies in the mancave.
Fingers crossed for 83” version next year.
I was thinking 85 at least
@@stepheng8779 the bigger the better!
42 48 inchs
Finger crossed for 83 Inch MLA OLED 😁
Since two days I own the 77 A95L.
I discovered a strange BUG:
I am using the TV's Sat Tuner and the TV App.
If I open up the guide it often stutters and the little picture of the channel in the right upper corner disappears. When I close the guide it seems that there is some extreme oversharpening of the picture. It seems reality creation is out of control (which I have disabled). I have to change picture Mode to normalize the sharpness.
@Vincent: Maybe you read this and can confirm/take a look on
Looking at the 84l vs 95l but there’s a big price difference, anyone know how they both compare to the older Sony kd65a1 in terms of brightness?
Any idea whether there are any compatibility issues with this TV and the Samsung Q990C please?
Pardon my ignorance. What are the last 6 "3D"options on the Overscan menu? Does the A95L support 3D movies?
No 3D is gone
I am also curious if that means it supports 3D I hope we get an answer
Many thanks Vincent. I respect your ability, knowledge and professionalism. Unfortunately, I live in NYC and cannot take advantage of your/ Crampton and Moore's custom calibration service. Would you or Crampton and Moore recommend anyone in my area?
i’d it true the 77” will have worse picture quality than the 65”? i can’t decide which size between those two
Mz2000 or A95L? Whitch chose?
What does "IMAX" mean in the feature list ?
When it comes to sustained brightness, how long is sustained? I.e, if you put a 10% white patch, how long will it keep 1300 nits? 10 sec? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
Vinny is like David Attenborough for TVs
Ngl … for all the hype surrounding this tv does anyone else feel a bit underwhelmed after that video. I mean no doubt we need to wait for the full release but still feel a bit disappointed. Please resolve that whole 4K Dolby vision 120 issue. Also at this rate I don’t think we’ll ever see 4 hdmi 2.1 ports 😕
Also a measurement of 243 full screen brightness is still lower than the 264 measured in the S95C.
Cheers for MediaTek.
Are we best to wait for 2024 panels - My TV is on last legs as its over 8 years old and im looking to get new best flagship from 2023 but if 2024 will be a generational leap I may hold off if I can
Why those this tv go down on resolution to 1080p when i anable hdr on my ps5? If i put the resolution up to 2160 on my ps5 the tv will kick hdr out, leaving it on SDR
0:19 Savage mode
😂😂😂😂
Wondering of the firmware update featuring Dolby Vision on all HDMI input settings will also come to the A90J. Currently facing the problem that I'm running a Sony UHD Player and Apple TV that feature Dolby Vision and are currently on HDMI 3+4, the only HDMI inputs that feature the Dolby Vision setting. But I need them on 1/2 or 3, since my recently acquired PS5 supports 120Hz/VRR, which is only supported on HDMI 3+4. I'm pretty sure that HDMI 1+2 also could handle Dolby Vision protocol...
Why not just buy a AVR that handles DV, and plug all into that?
Curious to see, at around the 4:19 mark, why there are 3D options on the menu screen - 3D side by side scaling, for example... is this going to be a return of 3D to TVs...?? Or is this something else altogether...?? If they DO enable 3D again, then this TV would be the perfect TV for me!! 3D on an OLED would be awesome - especially at 77 inches!! 😁 If not, then that's just a painful tease... 😐
There is an Asus 3D OLED Laptop on the market! I hope they come back on TVs
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@@KopfdesRiesen Is there...?? Sadly, I have no use for laptops - and my current Panasonic 50inch TV is awesome, but just too damn small, now. I will miss 3D if they don't bring it back - and will have to wait for such a time when I can have a projector (as a lot of them still do 3D). But that would be years from now, unfortunately. In the meantime, once I upgrade, my 3D movie collection will just sit there gathering dust. 😔
However, if laptops AND projectors still offer it, then I see no reason why they shouldn't re-introduce that option in TVs, especially as the quality and tech of them are so much better now! I live in hope! 😊
I also need to know what that 3D means
It's the menu of a Test disc😂
What about plugged in network speed? Apparently they do 1gb now?