Give seven mags to a grunt and put them in a battle vest and take it into a cold weather tent that is heated. Take a 1/2 patrol in minus 15 degrees fully loaded. Take a standing defensive position against a tree with rocks below your weapon and fire it transitioning to all magazines in your battle vest that were in the cold before the fire sequence. Will those magazines survive the drop? I will buy the Pmags from my own pocket and let you know.
I have a four magazine belt holster for my AK-47 magazines. The weight difference between steel magazines and the PMAGs is crazy. Excellent products by Magpul!
XP was the best! Win10 sux!!! Maybe Mapul. Keeps it around to consistently remind them not to fuck with perfection... when I open a bottle of yoo-hoo it better damn well taste like yoo-hoo when I open a moonpie it better taste like a moonpie. Consistency is KING!!!
after awhile they have a habit of not dropping free on their own this is due to the pressure a full mag puts on the mag lips causing it to expand overtime just enough to stop it from dropping free on its own which is very annoying
In addition to the other peoples' responses, they don't always work in other guns. You may have a pmag that works in your AR, but that same pmag may not fit in other guns that normally use the same mags, or it doesn't work as well.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 They last forever. All my USGI magazines are around 20 years old and have never had any problems with them. Only thing you have to watch out for is the old style with the green followers that don't have the anti-tilt.
Love my Gen M3 Pmags. They're pricey, but it's what I keep my SHTF armor piercing rounds in, so it's one less thing to worry about. As for the bulk of my mags, though, I run the Gen M2 MOE, because they're only $9/each at my local gun shop. Made it a point to buy one mag every time I visit as a way to support my local store which has been good to me. Also means I'm sitting on quite a lot of unopened 30 round mags. Would be fairly valuable as a trade item in a post-SHTF society, I'd think. And if anything, I would be set on mags for decades. Super light weight, too.
I have several Gen 2 from when I was in the military. They worked perfect with the m4, but now they don’t sit well in any of my civilian ARs if the bolt is forward. Gen 3s are much more compatible but I’m still glad I have so many spare Gen 2.
3:06 Why did the music volume increase from this point on? It reminds me of that Chappelle Show skit where they use the "Wrap It Up Box" to play people off the stage that were giving the verbose rendition. The Magpul rep even started giving the data points faster like someone was off camera saying "Yo, wrap it up B!" LMAO
@@thepoastman209 or 2011 Pmags lol. Turn the most unreliable magazine (and expensive) out of the box into a true go to war monster. Balls in your court magpul.
I have both Gen-2 and Gen-3 Pmags, honestly they both fit and feed great for me. I don't particularly care for the round-count windows on the Gen-3's, but that's just my personal opinion. I own 20, 30, and 40-rd Pmags, and one thing I do not understand is why the MSRP on the 20-rd mags is higher than the 30's... maybe because the 30's are obviously most popular and so effectively mass-produced, but who knows. Anyway, I think they are still a go-to mag for affordability and confidence in quality control when you buy one.
I'm a pmag fan also. I buy a couple every trip to my local gun store. I reload for 14 different calibers so I make alot of trips to the gun store. Never can have to many mags
This is the best magazine and he is correct about round counts. I have over 20,000 rounds through the AR platform. 2 magazine related malfunctions with the aluminum mags. None with Pmags both 2 and 3 gen. Doesnt mean the regular mags are bad. Just means pmag is better
I had six loaded and had the caps on them in my truck. After sim months in the heat the caps popped off. I said ok that is fine until they would not drop free. They had swollen out at the mouth. I still have a lot but I don’t keep them loaded in a go bag. I now keep metal mags in it.
Unfortunate, but I don’t think magazines are designed for storing ammunition anyway. In Iraq I kept an extra empty mag so that I could rotate my load out. Having more extra empties would be better. I rotate my USGI metal mags also.
I've noticed mag swell with p-mags that stay loaded myself, this is why for mags that stay loaded I use Lancers. I still use p-mags but they don't stay loaded.
Thanks for the heads up. Polymer is fussy with temperature so this makes perfect sense. I'm building a 300 blkout soon for the car so I'll keep my metal mags for that. I wanted different mags for the 300 anyways so that settles it.
I love Pmags but I recommend M2 Pmags because they are cheaper and the M3 was devolved to run in guns that the M2 wouldn't which is awesome. But I have an AR-15 so I don't need the wider amount of firearms compatibility. But here's a tip for AR or AK mags.... GET PMAGS
M2s are worse than M3s. M2's will split overtime if left at max capacity in storage where as M3's will not due to the larger surface area bonded together in the M3's polymer halves. Nothing of the M3 is "devolved" if anything magpul needs to stop selling those cheaper gen 2s and lower the gen3s like a proconsumer company would.
I run Gen M3 P-Mags exclusively in my POF P308 SPR piston AR-10. 10rd, 20rd, 25rd, 50rd drum. Over 3 dozen stick mags, 2 drums, all have been function tested. The mags I primarily use (2 20s and 2 25s) have seen thousands of rounds, ZERO issues. I would never think of using anything else.
Most reliable magazine I've had so far have EASILY been my elite tactical systems magazines... Those guys have seen crazy abuse, stay loaded to max capacity, seen THOUSANDS of rounds and I've still had zero issues. They will always be my SHTF mags but they are very pricey.... I have about 14 of them now so I'll only grab them on sales. All my other mags are Gen 3 pmags and usgi okay mags. Had some issues with my pmags that stayed loaded so I don't keep them loaded anymore unless I'm going to the range the next day.... The okays have binded acouple times but I'm sure that's from being Alittle dirty on the inside. A quick smacn and they go right back to work.
Not sure, but honestly the cap is supposed to be for long term storage only, not when you have them in a pouch. So you should be leaving them at home or in the range bag.
I have some 40 round Pmags that I keep loaded with 30 rounds in them all the time. But in a SHTF or WROL situation, they will be fully loaded. The reason why I keep 30 rounds in them all the time is because I think there will be less pressure on the feed lips which will keep the feed lips from spreading. Of course, this is just a personal preference. With crime on the rise, because the jails are letting inmates out due to the pandemic, I want to be ready just in case something bad happens. I have several 40 round Pmags loaded with 30 rounds, and they are ready at a moment’s notice to be used. One of them is already in my rifle and the others are very close to my rifle. Magazines and ammunition are the same in one sense. You can never have too many or too much of either.
I've never had a single failure to function from my pmags for my 7.62x39, 5.56x45, and 9mm glock, the only time I've ever had a malfunction with my glock was with a factory magazine (I was using aluminum cased ammo so I don't blame the mag I blame the ammo) the 9mm pmags have been flawless for me, I use all of them, the 15, 17, 21 and 27 rounders
They work reliably... but they haven't been as thoroughly tested as the 556 PMAGs. For example... if you use a GL9 magazine in a Kel-Tec Sub2000, the outer feedlips come in contact with the edge of the steel tubing cutout... and even with relatively light fire, the steel will start melting its way into the GL9 mag (right side). Eventually this causes a weakened feed lip, and the loaded pressure of rounds is pushing against an up to 3/4" long, 1mm wide melted groove. This could be a one-gun fluke... but I tend to think that the design needs more development to be perfect. I do like how the larger 20+ magazines have a flat bottom-- you can count on Magpul to give effort and detail, for sure... and value.
Any updates on the GL version? I've heard they did revisions, and they are half the price of OEM, but due to original issues, I've always strayed. Seems I heard the original ones had an issue with the angle of the top round. Also heard it was revised. One thing about Magpul, even when there's not an issue, there constantly revising products. Such as the follower on the new M3s for AR, they used to slip right past some people bolt catches, but they put extra tabs to keep the follower from sliding forward and NOW the rear of Pmags have a semi- hexigon shape, rather than a horizontal rear. Now, the people with that issue have it with the New M2s being they use what M3s formerly used, yet the older M2s don't pose that issue with those who have stacking tolerance issues in their bolt catch area.
Same. I love my AR pmags. But not to fond of my glock ones. My g19 mags are okay but my g17 mags were horrible. My promag and sgm 33rd mags are more reliable. For the range they are fine, but EDC I only use glock mags.
I bought one PMag for my AK-47 just to see how it runs. The only negative thing I have at present is I can not replace its follower with one that holds the bolt open with the last round fired.
Vigilante Driver The fact that they’re aren’t steel reinforced like the Bakelite or Circle 10 mags is much more important than the lack of a BHO follower. At least to me.
My only beef with PMAG's is when you leave them fully loaded for extended periods. The feed lips bow out and it becomes much harder to seat the magazine and prevents it from dropping free when empty. If you keep magazines fully loaded for SHTF situations, best to stick with steel or aluminum mags to be safe.
I took 10 BRAND NEW Pmags to a tactical rifle course, those mags got used and abused... most of the course they were getting dropped on concrete and pebble ground. I came home with 7 working Pmags two of witch failed not soon after all of them failing due to the feed lips breaking. I have since switched to Lancer mags, not one problem and I have more rounds down range though lancers then I have had through any of my Pmags. I have also returned to take the more advanced tactical rifle course at the same location with Lancer mags... not one failed. The course even has a warring now on the paperwork when you sign up that they have had issues with Pmags (as well as a few others) breaking during the range sessions and do not suggest them.
Lancer also has translucent ones those are really nice for checking in shitty visibility compared to a window on the pmag how many you uave left and as well with feeling the weight it gives you a pretty good estimate
So a bunch of posers were purposely dropping your rifles and they make you feel better by calling it a tactical course? Great job killer, hope you didn't spend much.
@Emmanuel Goldstein thank you for the info! Much appreciated! I have a bunch of surplus GI mags and only a few PMAG Gen2's. My one Gen3 is lonely, but I'm debating between purchasing PMAGs, Lancers, or SureFeeds just to have a few more mags around.
Love that 60 mag drum. Unfortunately mine had a pin at the top that fell backwards. I had to push it forward in order to eject the mag. Then I had to put glue inside the hole to prevent it in the future. But if it didn’t have that issue that I fixed it would have an A+ rating by me and as long as it has 556 ammo it is amazingly reliable. If you put 223 ammo in it then it jams unfortunately. But, again. Now my 60 rounds is completely reliable. Great for a prone position.
I remember long before the US military adopted them a lot of us used them. Even on the KD course, they told us we wouldn't get an alibi if we used them. Fast forward to today the military is totally hip with them after being behind the times for so long.
I have 5 pmag m3's I've fired about 3,000 - 4,000 rounds from them combined and not a single issue. Never had a malfunction. I used 2 mags one day and fired 1,000 rounds that day and not a single issue. I'm using an m&p sport 2 btw. That and the m3 combo, I've never had a malfunction. The pmag m2 that came with the gun would feed rounds in really badly. The rounds would go in at a weird angle and it would actually bend the neck of the casing and the bullet would be coming off the casing at an angle, causing the rifle to not go into battery about every 10 rounds or so. Since I got m3's I've had no issue. I use both the windowed mags and the normal ones.
I own many different mags from various companies. My p-mags and my gi mags are the only ones I’d trust my family’s lives to. Like another commenter said they are so reliable and inexpensive why would anyone use anything else!?
I beg to differ with the statement "magazines with with a cracked feed lip will feed just fine".....im having tons of trouble with my pmag gen2 mags I bought 6 months ago, about 1/3 of them are cracked (and do not feed). I was told that there wasn't any changes to the feed lip area going from gen2 to gen3.
Got the gen 3 40rd and it would not fit all the way up into the magwell to seat, took an hour with some light grit sandpaper to get it to seat, and drop but now it fits like a glove. Too much work, but not many other 40 rd mags compared to the price.
@@woodrowcall3158 it's a local company called Triton, so maybe they had some tolerances off, but at least the lancer mag does fit correctly, I'm curious to see if the steel mil spec mags fit. Also it started off as a .458, I wonder if that effects it at all.
C Lawson If it was a CNC cut billet the dimensions might be too tight. Did you have to sand the sides or the lips? Might be worth covering a pmag in marking chalk, inserting it once, and seeing where the contact is being made on the magazine and the well.
I had to sand quite a but off the front and rear of it, which seemed to be the only part that was off. But at first you couldn't get it to seat using every ounce of strength
I must call attention to the problem that the lip which makes contact with the magazine well has a tendency to snag on the inside of my magazine pouches, moreso than my Gen M2 mags. This makes it more difficult to change magazines. I am probably not the only one with said problem.
Magpul G3 Pmags are the only magazines that I will buy new off the rack and load up and then expect them to run, without testing the individual mag first. Any other magazine... Lancer, okay, whatever... I test with 3-4 loadings in a couple rifles before putting the individual magazine in a rotation where they expected to function under "do or die" conditions.
Other than the extra "stuff" around the sides of the mag, what was the upgrade from gen 2 to gen 3 (AR mags)? My gen 2s have been wonderful. I just want to know if it's worth buying gen 3 as I get more. Thanks!
The only difference I know of from experience, is they apparently made the gen 3 mags slightly smaller externally, I assume so that they will fit & drop properly from a wider variety of lowers. I have a couple of the gen 2 mags, and they fit fine in two of my ARs (both are PSA lowers), but fit tightly and will not drop on their own from two others (one Eagle Arms, and one older (1980s) Pac West Arms lower). I also have a dozen or more gen 3 mags in 10, 20, and 30 round sizes, and they all fit and drop freely from all my guns. For what it's worth, the gen 2s function perfectly in all the guns otherwise. So if your mags work in your ARs, I see no reason to change. Also, lots of dealers are selling the gen 2 mags at a discount now. Also for what it's worth, I also have a half dozen of the Brownells 30-rnd aluminum mags, and those fit and function perfectly in all my ARs too.
@@earl240sx I've been running the gen 2s for years. I have only have the feed lips crack on 1 out of many. It was well used and in a few classes. I see the gen 3s around, but for a few bucks more. I'm just wondering if it's worth the extra money. Every three or four gen 3s, I would be able to have bought an extra mag if I bought gen 2s. (3 gen 3s, or 4 gen 2s.)
Improved polymer and incorporated all the Magpul Emag features. Dimensionally improved to operate in all NATO firearms. Basically, they evolved the Pmag to the Okay Industries USGI mag standard.
The only magazine that i have ever had issues with no matter what its for is "pro" mag. P Mags are 100 percent good to go and are the magazines i stock up on. Also magpuls for my glock. I either use glock factory or Pmags. And Pmags for my cz scorpion.
I wish their Glock and ak mags were on the same level as their AR mags. I've only had issues with their Glock mags and the ak mags still easily crack and break on the feed lips, also easy to rip the mag out of an ak cause only the tabs seem to be steel. Great AR mags, just got a few more and a d60!
Used to use Lancers in both a drop leg mag pouch and a mag pouch on a vest and would constantly find lose rounds in the pouches after pulling a mag out. Switched to Gen3 P-Mags and have yet to have that problem.
556bc the polymer they use has a higher tensile strength, which is better for durability from abuse but it isn’t firm enough to use as feed lips. Steel is much stronger than any glass filled polymer.
Over the years I’ve broken feedlips, spine cracks, etc with pmags gen 2 &3!!! Never ever had any issues with Okay Industries and Magpul followers!!! Do not work or get anything from either company, just real world experience!!!
For the regular consumer, if they work 100& of the time outside of combat, it's good enough. If a civilian was found in combat, they'll find magazines that still work and throw away the ones that won't. This video would serve better to sell to the military, they don't t replace things so easily when they should
So can you put a myth to rest once and for all have you/could you load a standard capacity magazine to full capacity and leave it stored that way for a considerable length of time say anywhere from a year to a decade or more. Without the spring deteriorating in strength?
I can't believe that no one answered your question after 2 years. You might already know that answer by now but if not, it doesn't hurt the magazine to leave them loaded and it won't harm the spring. The weakening of the spring takes place from constantly loading the magazine flexing the spring.
I had a gen M2 pmag crack down the spine. I have probably 40 or so (gen 2 and 3) and it's the only one that's given me a problem so maybe just a defective one.
The gen3 pmag for the lr/sr 308 seems to have to thick of feed lips to allow at leased my gun to cycle is this common? I removed some material and I think its going to cycle now but the feed lips are tapered is that by design? The front portion of the lips being much thinner than the rear I mean? If it helps the rifle does function on c products mags but the round sit much higher in that mag due to the lips being thin sheetmetal.
People crack me up that whine about a mag costing $13. When they spent 2400 on a rifle
Lucky them... my mags cost $60 a piece
@@madstan8948 what the hell are you buying?
@@blue03r6 prob drum mags
@@blue03r6 bakelites
I've seen P365 magazines for R1900 here in South Africa. That's $130.
Background music should be in the background...
At 3:06 it got louder lol
At :01 it was gay and I stopped watching....
Hmmm, I was listening to the message....missed the BS. I guess I should pay more attention so I could dis the video!!!
@@funkingitup1805 Yes, I'm sure you are. Maybe you should embrace life and humanity for what it is. It makes life sooooo much more enjoyable.
Give seven mags to a grunt and put them in a battle vest and take it into a cold weather tent that is heated. Take a 1/2 patrol in minus 15 degrees fully loaded. Take a standing defensive position against a tree with rocks below your weapon and fire it transitioning to all magazines in your battle vest that were in the cold before the fire sequence. Will those magazines survive the drop? I will buy the Pmags from my own pocket and let you know.
I have a four magazine belt holster for my AK-47 magazines. The weight difference between steel magazines and the PMAGs is crazy. Excellent products by Magpul!
3 of my 9 PMAGs have cracked after close to ten years and they still run flawlessly! I have the utmost my faith in Magpul products!
Swelling music? Ugh. They are mags, not a movie about the underdog Olympic runner.
LMAO
lmao hahaha
Should've had Angels and a shining light from above at the end. lol
@@ZFlyingVLover Too funny. :D
Just make a 30 rnd grendel mag then we can talk
I'm glad they've spent so much time on the mags, and not replacing the 15 year old Windows XP computer in the background :D
XP did nothing wrong
There's nothing wrong with the XP OS. Beats the shit out of Win 10.
XP was the best! Win10 sux!!! Maybe Mapul. Keeps it around to consistently remind them not to fuck with perfection... when I open a bottle of yoo-hoo it better damn well taste like yoo-hoo when I open a moonpie it better taste like a moonpie. Consistency is KING!!!
Good eye LOL
XP was the best lol
I just want to say that I find all your videos greatly informative and very entertaining. I look forward to watching every one.
They work so well and are so inexpensive I don’t understand why people buy anything else
PMags for AKs suck. If you drop it, the feed lips crack easily.
And the LR308/AR-10 PMAGs suck donkey dick.
after awhile they have a habit of not dropping free on their own this is due to the pressure a full mag puts on the mag lips causing it to expand overtime just enough to stop it from dropping free on its own which is very annoying
Lancer has better for similar price.
In addition to the other peoples' responses, they don't always work in other guns. You may have a pmag that works in your AR, but that same pmag may not fit in other guns that normally use the same mags, or it doesn't work as well.
Bring back foliage green please!
I want banana yellow
You can die them with RIT dye, lots of videos on that
oldplace5 except they discontinued the sand color ones.
Ivan Corey they sell white ones, so you could probably use more than the usual dye to get your color right.
Plum ... for those AR/KS47 mags that are trolling the AK universe.
All my mags are either Pmags (gen2s) or USGI with magpul followers. Good stuff!
I was looking at USGI mags also. Was wondering how they held up.
@@TrisjensChronicles1203 They last forever. All my USGI magazines are around 20 years old and have never had any problems with them.
Only thing you have to watch out for is the old style with the green followers that don't have the anti-tilt.
Glad to hear it's a great mag! I bought 4 and all together I have 5! Thank you for explaining this mag!
Love my Gen M3 Pmags. They're pricey, but it's what I keep my SHTF armor piercing rounds in, so it's one less thing to worry about. As for the bulk of my mags, though, I run the Gen M2 MOE, because they're only $9/each at my local gun shop. Made it a point to buy one mag every time I visit as a way to support my local store which has been good to me. Also means I'm sitting on quite a lot of unopened 30 round mags. Would be fairly valuable as a trade item in a post-SHTF society, I'd think. And if anything, I would be set on mags for decades. Super light weight, too.
so ur shtf plan is to give mags to someone who might just backstab u and use it against u😂
@@themosinguy6508 no, that’s not his plan.
I have several Gen 2 from when I was in the military. They worked perfect with the m4, but now they don’t sit well in any of my civilian ARs if the bolt is forward. Gen 3s are much more compatible but I’m still glad I have so many spare Gen 2.
@@chief5981 "the mags would be valuable as trade items"
That's exactly his plan
@@fakename287 yeah, that is the original commenters plan. However, that is not what the guy I was responding to said.
3:06 Why did the music volume increase from this point on? It reminds me of that Chappelle Show skit where they use the "Wrap It Up Box" to play people off the stage that were giving the verbose rendition. The Magpul rep even started giving the data points faster like someone was off camera saying "Yo, wrap it up B!" LMAO
You better wrap that gavel up B
Lmfao. I totally cracked up.
Totally agree. The P Mag Gen M3 are by far the best AR mags I’ve used.
Got a bunch of gen3 pmags... (well, I did before my boating accident...).... zero flaws at over 1000 rounds at local indoor range.
The GI mag was meant to be disposable, now with Pmags they have a squad of privates who go out and pick them up...The P Squad.
They've always worked well in my rifles so I have to give them a big thumbs up.
Brownells, this is great! Keep content like this coming!!!
I own nothing but pmags. Have them in every size you could think of and I love them! They are so cheap and work so great you can’t go wrong with them.
Impress me with some Magpul 1911 mags.
Iowarail Then they’d have to do flintlocks
Savage AF!!!!!!!!!
@@thepoastman209 or 2011 Pmags lol. Turn the most unreliable magazine (and expensive) out of the box into a true go to war monster. Balls in your court magpul.
Iowarail no
*Blasphemy*
Good info, i have plenty of pmags my self, as well as brownells USGI tactical mags with the upgraded magpul follower and ranger plate.
Make Gen 3's or 4's in OD Green with wider feed lips.
If magpul made roast beef, I’d eat roast beef every day.
I have both Gen-2 and Gen-3 Pmags, honestly they both fit and feed great for me. I don't particularly care for the round-count windows on the Gen-3's, but that's just my personal opinion. I own 20, 30, and 40-rd Pmags, and one thing I do not understand is why the MSRP on the 20-rd mags is higher than the 30's... maybe because the 30's are obviously most popular and so effectively mass-produced, but who knows. Anyway, I think they are still a go-to mag for affordability and confidence in quality control when you buy one.
I'm a pmag fan also. I buy a couple every trip to my local gun store. I reload for 14 different calibers so I make alot of trips to the gun store. Never can have to many mags
Are the metal AR mags any good. It's all I ran through my ak. But now I have a MP sport 2.
This is the best magazine and he is correct about round counts. I have over 20,000 rounds through the AR platform. 2 magazine related malfunctions with the aluminum mags. None with Pmags both 2 and 3 gen. Doesnt mean the regular mags are bad. Just means pmag is better
I just had an over insertion issue with my Daniel Defense magazines today!!
Love magpul mags. I like almost everything they make!
Durable enough to make it the official mag for the Marines & Airforce.
Love my pmags!
@@556bc I've heard stories of guys purchasing them with their own money.
I had six loaded and had the caps on them in my truck. After sim months in the heat the caps popped off. I said ok that is fine until they would not drop free. They had swollen out at the mouth. I still have a lot but I don’t keep them loaded in a go bag. I now keep metal mags in it.
Unfortunate, but I don’t think magazines are designed for storing ammunition anyway. In Iraq I kept an extra empty mag so that I could rotate my load out. Having more extra empties would be better. I rotate my USGI metal mags also.
I've noticed mag swell with p-mags that stay loaded myself, this is why for mags that stay loaded I use Lancers. I still use p-mags but they don't stay loaded.
Thanks for the heads up. Polymer is fussy with temperature so this makes perfect sense. I'm building a 300 blkout soon for the car so I'll keep my metal mags for that. I wanted different mags for the 300 anyways so that settles it.
Meh. I have pangs thatve been loaded for like 2 years (just havent used that specific mag) and they're fine.
let me guess....you had the magazines loaded up to full capacity? ive heard people load 28 out of 30, lessens the spring tension while stored.
I love Pmags but I recommend M2 Pmags because they are cheaper and the M3 was devolved to run in guns that the M2 wouldn't which is awesome. But I have an AR-15 so I don't need the wider amount of firearms compatibility. But here's a tip for AR or AK mags.... GET PMAGS
M2s are worse than M3s. M2's will split overtime if left at max capacity in storage where as M3's will not due to the larger surface area bonded together in the M3's polymer halves.
Nothing of the M3 is "devolved" if anything magpul needs to stop selling those cheaper gen 2s and lower the gen3s like a proconsumer company would.
@@asymsolutions False. That myth has been busted many times. I also tested that and found it to be a myth. M2 > M3.
I run Gen M3 P-Mags exclusively in my POF P308 SPR piston AR-10. 10rd, 20rd, 25rd, 50rd drum. Over 3 dozen stick mags, 2 drums, all have been function tested.
The mags I primarily use (2 20s and 2 25s) have seen thousands of rounds, ZERO issues.
I would never think of using anything else.
Most reliable magazine I've had so far have EASILY been my elite tactical systems magazines... Those guys have seen crazy abuse, stay loaded to max capacity, seen THOUSANDS of rounds and I've still had zero issues. They will always be my SHTF mags but they are very pricey.... I have about 14 of them now so I'll only grab them on sales. All my other mags are Gen 3 pmags and usgi okay mags. Had some issues with my pmags that stayed loaded so I don't keep them loaded anymore unless I'm going to the range the next day.... The okays have binded acouple times but I'm sure that's from being Alittle dirty on the inside. A quick smacn and they go right back to work.
I'm sold. Customer for life. Good enough for marines. I like it.
I have put literally THOUSANDS of rounds through the 15 PMAG Gen 2 - Windowed that I own. Never had a failure to feed that was magazine related.
I love my P mags, but ive had a lot of issues with the glock P mags. I am very unhappy with them.
Same here.
why would you ever buy P.mag for a Glock Glock has fantastic mags at low prices.
Why don't the gen 3 mags have the capability of putting the cap on the bottom like the gen 2 did?
Andrew woah, didn't realize g2 did this.
You could always just get gen 2 mags. Then again the gen 2 pmags break easier than the gen 3 pmags do.
Not sure, but honestly the cap is supposed to be for long term storage only, not when you have them in a pouch. So you should be leaving them at home or in the range bag.
They changed the floor plate to make the 3rd gen more reliable than the gen2 pmag
I store the caps in my garbage
I have some 40 round Pmags that I keep loaded with 30 rounds in them all the time. But in a SHTF or WROL situation, they will be fully loaded. The reason why I keep 30 rounds in them all the time is because I think there will be less pressure on the feed lips which will keep the feed lips from spreading. Of course, this is just a personal preference. With crime on the rise, because the jails are letting inmates out due to the pandemic, I want to be ready just in case something bad happens. I have several 40 round Pmags loaded with 30 rounds, and they are ready at a moment’s notice to be used. One of them is already in my rifle and the others are very close to my rifle. Magazines and ammunition are the same in one sense. You can never have too many or too much of either.
I use Gen 2 because the over-insertion tab on the Gen 3 prevents usage in my Beretta ARX100. Best mags. Never an issue.
I love the AR Pmags, but maaaan those glock mags are real iffy.
Wildey they need more R&D
I've never had a single failure to function from my pmags for my 7.62x39, 5.56x45, and 9mm glock, the only time I've ever had a malfunction with my glock was with a factory magazine (I was using aluminum cased ammo so I don't blame the mag I blame the ammo) the 9mm pmags have been flawless for me, I use all of them, the 15, 17, 21 and 27 rounders
They work reliably... but they haven't been as thoroughly tested as the 556 PMAGs. For example... if you use a GL9 magazine in a Kel-Tec Sub2000, the outer feedlips come in contact with the edge of the steel tubing cutout... and even with relatively light fire, the steel will start melting its way into the GL9 mag (right side). Eventually this causes a weakened feed lip, and the loaded pressure of rounds is pushing against an up to 3/4" long, 1mm wide melted groove. This could be a one-gun fluke... but I tend to think that the design needs more development to be perfect. I do like how the larger 20+ magazines have a flat bottom-- you can count on Magpul to give effort and detail, for sure... and value.
Any updates on the GL version?
I've heard they did revisions, and they are half the price of OEM, but due to original issues, I've always strayed.
Seems I heard the original ones had an issue with the angle of the top round. Also heard it was revised.
One thing about Magpul, even when there's not an issue, there constantly revising products.
Such as the follower on the new M3s for AR, they used to slip right past some people bolt catches, but they put extra tabs to keep the follower from sliding forward and NOW the rear of Pmags have a semi- hexigon shape, rather than a horizontal rear.
Now, the people with that issue have it with the New M2s being they use what M3s formerly used, yet the older M2s don't pose that issue with those who have stacking tolerance issues in their bolt catch area.
Same. I love my AR pmags. But not to fond of my glock ones. My g19 mags are okay but my g17 mags were horrible. My promag and sgm 33rd mags are more reliable. For the range they are fine, but EDC I only use glock mags.
I bought one PMag for my AK-47 just to see how it runs. The only negative thing I have at present is I can not replace its follower with one that holds the bolt open with the last round fired.
Vigilante Driver The fact that they’re aren’t steel reinforced like the Bakelite or Circle 10 mags is much more important than the lack of a BHO follower. At least to me.
My only beef with PMAG's is when you leave them fully loaded for extended periods. The feed lips bow out and it becomes much harder to seat the magazine and prevents it from dropping free when empty. If you keep magazines fully loaded for SHTF situations, best to stick with steel or aluminum mags to be safe.
Never had that problem but my Lancer mags have done that
I love my pmags. Have several 30s and a couple 40s for my AR and even a couple for my AKM
Make some 20s for the Ruger Mini 14
Yes please. Some 30s too. None of the polymer mags that I've seen for the Mini14 look very good.
@@bwillems1000 Yes they all suck I have used most of them Ruger OEM are the only ones that work
They would not be hurting for customers. A oem ruger 20 round is 35 bucks. If Pmag made 20 and 30 rnd mags for 15 to 20 that would be awesome
+Mr. Anderson, why do you say that?
I wish i knew more about guns when i bought my first AR, i bought 4 steel mags for $20 a piece.
I took 10 BRAND NEW Pmags to a tactical rifle course, those mags got used and abused... most of the course they were getting dropped on concrete and pebble ground. I came home with 7 working Pmags two of witch failed not soon after all of them failing due to the feed lips breaking. I have since switched to Lancer mags, not one problem and I have more rounds down range though lancers then I have had through any of my Pmags. I have also returned to take the more advanced tactical rifle course at the same location with Lancer mags... not one failed. The course even has a warring now on the paperwork when you sign up that they have had issues with Pmags (as well as a few others) breaking during the range sessions and do not suggest them.
Lancer also has translucent ones those are really nice for checking in shitty visibility compared to a window on the pmag how many you uave left and as well with feeling the weight it gives you a pretty good estimate
Interesting to know. Thanks for sharing.
So a bunch of posers were purposely dropping your rifles and they make you feel better by calling it a tactical course? Great job killer, hope you didn't spend much.
@Emmanuel Goldstein the Gen2's aren't as durable?? If indeed true, I'm surprised I haven't heard about this before.
@Emmanuel Goldstein thank you for the info! Much appreciated! I have a bunch of surplus GI mags and only a few PMAG Gen2's. My one Gen3 is lonely, but I'm debating between purchasing PMAGs, Lancers, or SureFeeds just to have a few more mags around.
thank magpul for bringing mag prices down for real, plus its durability. I only buy firearms that is compliable with pmag.
Magpul mags work fine. I just got a S&W AR-15 and it came stock with a 30 round Magpul mag.
U.S. Army Infantrymen here. I can vouch for these mags, they are head and shoulders above aluminum hi mags
Also ex US Army infantry. For me the lighter weight of the aluminum GI mags makes them my top choice.
Love that 60 mag drum. Unfortunately mine had a pin at the top that fell backwards. I had to push it forward in order to eject the mag. Then I had to put glue inside the hole to prevent it in the future. But if it didn’t have that issue that I fixed it would have an A+ rating by me and as long as it has 556 ammo it is amazingly reliable. If you put 223 ammo in it then it jams unfortunately. But, again. Now my 60 rounds is completely reliable. Great for a prone position.
Magpul =
Magpul just makes great quality stuff. If it costs a Extra 4 bucks I will spend cause the product speaks for itself on how durable it is.
I remember long before the US military adopted them a lot of us used them. Even on the KD course, they told us we wouldn't get an alibi if we used them. Fast forward to today the military is totally hip with them after being behind the times for so long.
I have 5 pmag m3's I've fired about 3,000 - 4,000 rounds from them combined and not a single issue. Never had a malfunction. I used 2 mags one day and fired 1,000 rounds that day and not a single issue. I'm using an m&p sport 2 btw. That and the m3 combo, I've never had a malfunction. The pmag m2 that came with the gun would feed rounds in really badly. The rounds would go in at a weird angle and it would actually bend the neck of the casing and the bullet would be coming off the casing at an angle, causing the rifle to not go into battery about every 10 rounds or so. Since I got m3's I've had no issue. I use both the windowed mags and the normal ones.
I love my p mags, such an improvement over aluminum or steel mags
Also has better positive insertion into the mag well with the raised mag catch (idk what it’s called) in comparison to other mags and the Gen 2
Great explanation.
Talks wayyyy too long
I own many different mags from various companies. My p-mags and my gi mags are the only ones I’d trust my family’s lives to. Like another commenter said they are so reliable and inexpensive why would anyone use anything else!?
Are the 40s good. I got a mnp sport 2. They sell me with mag pulls. Want to try the 40s.
Bring back Sand color magazine’s. I want me some mags to dye
I run Pmag M3's in my Bushmaster. Never had an issue with feeding or broken feed lips, etc.
I beg to differ with the statement "magazines with with a cracked feed lip will feed just fine".....im having tons of trouble with my pmag gen2 mags I bought 6 months ago, about 1/3 of them are cracked (and do not feed). I was told that there wasn't any changes to the feed lip area going from gen2 to gen3.
Got the gen 3 40rd and it would not fit all the way up into the magwell to seat, took an hour with some light grit sandpaper to get it to seat, and drop but now it fits like a glove. Too much work, but not many other 40 rd mags compared to the price.
C Lawson What brand/model receiver were you running?
@@woodrowcall3158 it's a local company called Triton, so maybe they had some tolerances off, but at least the lancer mag does fit correctly, I'm curious to see if the steel mil spec mags fit. Also it started off as a .458, I wonder if that effects it at all.
C Lawson If it was a CNC cut billet the dimensions might be too tight. Did you have to sand the sides or the lips?
Might be worth covering a pmag in marking chalk, inserting it once, and seeing where the contact is being made on the magazine and the well.
I had to sand quite a but off the front and rear of it, which seemed to be the only part that was off. But at first you couldn't get it to seat using every ounce of strength
I need those white magazines in my life. Ya know, to spruce things up a bit. I also wouldn’t mind owning that mini drum mag as well. lol
Best magazine for a AR-15 on the planet
Gen 2s will not run consistently in my X95. Upgraded to gen 3 and no issues with FTF.
I really like the gen3, but I only own gen2 because I want my mags odg to match all of my other magpul accessories.
Didnt the army research find pmsgs were the best option but decided to make there own polymags?
They did and probably found out they could make their own for .10 cents and told Magpul to pound sand....
I thought I'd save a few bucks and get a mag that cost a few bucks less than Magpul, and I immediately experienced feed issues. I'm sold on PMAGs.
I wish they still made the airsoft versions
I must call attention to the problem that the lip which makes contact with the magazine well has a tendency to snag on the inside of my magazine pouches, moreso than my Gen M2 mags. This makes it more difficult to change magazines. I am probably not the only one with said problem.
I'm still running some gen 1 pmags.
Pmags are good but I've had one crack at the seam with light use. Daniel defense mags are good as well
Crazy how so many people have issues with running pmags on their ar. They never seat into the lower receiver properly unless you modify them.
I still have Gen 1 PMAGs that keep working.
Magpul G3 Pmags are the only magazines that I will buy new off the rack and load up and then expect them to run, without testing the individual mag first. Any other magazine... Lancer, okay, whatever... I test with 3-4 loadings in a couple rifles before putting the individual magazine in a rotation where they expected to function under "do or die" conditions.
Try storing a pmag loaded for a couple of days,see if it even loads properly!
LOL buttstock broke at 01:43
Lol right dude 😂😂😂
My ar10 jams every time I attempt to put a pmag in it. Pretty reliable with metal mags though.
556bc beat me to it
Ya I bet it is. Home built for about 700$. Just saying that metal mags don't give me any trouble despite the fact that it's a cheap gun.
And her name is Rosie. Temperamental, easily triggered and prone to malfunction
@@556bcya the AR 10 is a whole different beast. Luckily the only problem I have so far is mags. And she's maybe a bit over gassed
Music was completely unnecessary....
Adam Mackey Smith yup, it’s destructing from the final conclusion (wrap up pitch )
And gay....
Other than the extra "stuff" around the sides of the mag, what was the upgrade from gen 2 to gen 3 (AR mags)? My gen 2s have been wonderful. I just want to know if it's worth buying gen 3 as I get more. Thanks!
The only difference I know of from experience, is they apparently made the gen 3 mags slightly smaller externally, I assume so that they will fit & drop properly from a wider variety of lowers. I have a couple of the gen 2 mags, and they fit fine in two of my ARs (both are PSA lowers), but fit tightly and will not drop on their own from two others (one Eagle Arms, and one older (1980s) Pac West Arms lower). I also have a dozen or more gen 3 mags in 10, 20, and 30 round sizes, and they all fit and drop freely from all my guns. For what it's worth, the gen 2s function perfectly in all the guns otherwise. So if your mags work in your ARs, I see no reason to change. Also, lots of dealers are selling the gen 2 mags at a discount now. Also for what it's worth, I also have a half dozen of the Brownells 30-rnd aluminum mags, and those fit and function perfectly in all my ARs too.
@@earl240sx I've been running the gen 2s for years. I have only have the feed lips crack on 1 out of many. It was well used and in a few classes. I see the gen 3s around, but for a few bucks more. I'm just wondering if it's worth the extra money. Every three or four gen 3s, I would be able to have bought an extra mag if I bought gen 2s. (3 gen 3s, or 4 gen 2s.)
Improved polymer and incorporated all the Magpul Emag features. Dimensionally improved to operate in all NATO firearms.
Basically, they evolved the Pmag to the Okay Industries USGI mag standard.
Can you run 300 blackout in the mag
Lets see him load that play with the bolt forward that way he can fire one shot and watch his mag drop
Max Morris got a tap that naughty girl on the booty after you put it in
The only magazine that i have ever had issues with no matter what its for is "pro" mag. P Mags are 100 percent good to go and are the magazines i stock up on. Also magpuls for my glock. I either use glock factory or Pmags. And Pmags for my cz scorpion.
I use pmags in my m-4 and x95 never had a problem with them failing 🧐
I wish their Glock and ak mags were on the same level as their AR mags. I've only had issues with their Glock mags and the ak mags still easily crack and break on the feed lips, also easy to rip the mag out of an ak cause only the tabs seem to be steel. Great AR mags, just got a few more and a d60!
if magpul won't I wish some company would make a 30 round 350 legend magazines
How about some larger capacity mags for the AR10 platform
Check out the Pmag D50
Sinroyal that’s for an AR-15. He’s talking about an AR-10
Riley Patterson Largest PMAG for AR-10’s is a 25 Round Windowed mag
@@JB.1371 not true i have recently found 4 or five companies that sell 50 rounders. #Merica
I wonder how long the polymer will last before getting brittle? Metal mags will last forever
Im talking after 30-50 years etc
Lancer L5. Your guy's opinion on pmag vs lancer? Go.
Lancers are superior, weight of polymer with the durability of steel. Don't need to worry about keeping them loaded
Used to use Lancers in both a drop leg mag pouch and a mag pouch on a vest and would constantly find lose rounds in the pouches after pulling a mag out. Switched to Gen3 P-Mags and have yet to have that problem.
556bc the polymer they use has a higher tensile strength, which is better for durability from abuse but it isn’t firm enough to use as feed lips. Steel is much stronger than any glass filled polymer.
For me it's gen-3 Magpul mags all day, the lancers are nice but not better.
Where are the 7.62X39 for the AR platform?
Over the years I’ve broken feedlips, spine cracks, etc with pmags gen 2 &3!!! Never ever had any issues with Okay Industries and Magpul followers!!! Do not work or get anything from either company, just real world experience!!!
His broken mag /feed lips was a GEN 2🤓
Incorrect
For the regular consumer, if they work 100& of the time outside of combat, it's good enough. If a civilian was found in combat, they'll find magazines that still work and throw away the ones that won't. This video would serve better to sell to the military, they don't t replace things so easily when they should
So can you put a myth to rest once and for all have you/could you load a standard capacity magazine to full capacity and leave it stored that way for a considerable length of time say anywhere from a year to a decade or more. Without the spring deteriorating in strength?
I can't believe that no one answered your question after 2 years. You might already know that answer by now but if not, it doesn't hurt the magazine to leave them loaded and it won't harm the spring. The weakening of the spring takes place from constantly loading the magazine flexing the spring.
There's a video on here somewhere of a dude who took a loaded 30 rd pmag out of his safe after 13 years and it ran flawlessly
I had a gen M2 pmag crack down the spine.
I have probably 40 or so (gen 2 and 3) and it's the only one that's given me a problem so maybe just a defective one.
The gen3 pmag for the lr/sr 308 seems to have to thick of feed lips to allow at leased my gun to cycle is this common? I removed some material and I think its going to cycle now but the feed lips are tapered is that by design? The front portion of the lips being much thinner than the rear I mean? If it helps the rifle does function on c products mags but the round sit much higher in that mag due to the lips being thin sheetmetal.
What about long term wear on the BCG on the polymer feed lips...?
As for reliability what is your opinion on the Magpul M2 vs M3? I have M’2s that have never given me a problem.
Do you recommend using the dust cover on to protect the fingers on the magazine? Loaded mag that is.
I certainly recommend it. (Ex infantry, for whatever that's worth).
i only run P-mags. Sold all the GI mags in a yard sale...except 1 I found lurking in my safe.