Reducing recoil is about staying on target and having faster follow-up shots, if you don't understand that, it's okay. Please note that I will in fact make fun of you a little bit if you post a condescending comment about AR already not having much recoil. With that being said, we do have more basic videos you may want to start with if you fall in that category.
I understand that and it doesn't change my opinion on the matter. If you properly handle an intermediate caliber rifle, it already doesn't move off target. The other improvements are fine, but the added concussion of a muzzle break is a net negative.
@sultanofsick you can have a muzzle BRAKE and it not be a negative in any way other than cost. I have a Precision Armament EFAB on one of my rifles and it reduces flash just as well as a A2, gives off no more concussion than a A2 but is a effective BRAKE in that it reduces recoil and muzzle rise. Using true 5.56 loadings there definitely is some recoil and rise that can be mitigated especially when using mid length or shorter gas system and carbine buffer system. The age old saying of work smarter, not harder holds true here not to mention every shooting position isn't going to be the same under duress and anything that can help performance is welcome. Jerry Mikhalete, I know I butchered his name, is probably the best semi auto shooter in the world at putting fast accurate shots in great volumes buy even he uses BRAKES and other performance enhancements to achieve results. There is such things as force multipliers. I'm a decent but my SSA-E-X trigger, various muzzle BRAKES, adjustable gas block, custom speced gas tubes, A5 buffer system, JPC or Armaspec buffer system 90* short fore grip, K2+ grip, B5 grip, free floated rail ect for sure make me even better than a totally stock mil spec early 2000's build M4.
Great tips! A muzzle break is an almost absolute way to reduce recoil, just know that when you pull the trigger, everyone’s coffee will kick in. I would add, as a possible inexpensive option, to swap out to a braided buffer spring from Giessele. If you’re going to put in the effort to change gas blocks, take the extra step and switch barrels. Carbine length gas systems will cycle reliably, but a mid length would be more gentle on the recoil.
These tips are all great but the biggest thing you can do is to actually put the stock in your shoulder and get a good cheek weld. It's pretty popular to not do this today.
Minor difference for the most part. I think the super short barrel craze gets most people in hot water when it comes to recoil. A 16" gun with mid length gas system and an h2 buffer is gonna feel like a bb gun compared to a 10.5" with carbine length gas. But then again it's all relative really
Rifle length gas system with rifle length buffer system is generally the softest shooting and then on down. Mid length gas/A5 buffer>Carbine gas/Carbine buffer>Pistol gas/pistol buffer. There can be exceptions. For instance some companies will open up their gas ports too much making a mid length worse than a Carbine. Adjustable gas system makes the biggest difference. For instance my short 30 cal rifles are both pistol gas systems with Carbine buffer systems but I have them on a H2 Armaspec buffer system and both are adjustable gas system and both have a brake. Even my 7.62x39 12" PWS Mk111 is pretty soft shooting for what it is and my 10.3" 300blk with the adjustable gas system shoots softer than many 16" 5.56 rifles.
I've been thinking about trying an A5 buffer system setup and the riflespeed adjustable gas system. Currently rocking a good ole H2 buffer with a carbine spring with a dead air xeno flash hider to accept my AB A10 5.56 can but it shoots great. Great video
*Precision Armament’s* true crème de la crème is Hypertap. Expensive so I only have 3 of them. But they don’t require a crush washer, or any timing washers, and they have the greatest recoil reduction in muzzle brakes so far.
I have a Grendel Hunter muzzle brake on a 20' barrel (Obviously with a rifle length gas tube.) with the BCM recoil mitigation system and it's smooth as butter.
The Precision brake he shows off is insanely good at its job. I had it on a 20 inch Colt and the damn thing didnt budge even a little. I prefer flash hiders but it's definitely going to kill your recoil. I would advise against brakes on a fighting rifle unless you're using it as a silencer host, because giant fireballs don't help you avoid return fire.
So if you wanted the best of both worlds with the gas block on a fighting rifle you’d use an adjustable gas block to figure out the perfect gas port size setting and then buy a fixed gas block that is that exact setting? Is that possible?
I can verify the precision armorment brake with venting back towards the shooter works extremely well! Im using the 762 version on my ar10. Its makes a massive difference. My ar10 has basically no recoil now. I'm using it until I get my 30 cal can. The precision armorment brake is not friendly to anyone standing on to side/behind you. They will not like that thing at all. So it's not good for range but perfect for hunting in my opinion. Looking at hub version of the CAT ODB. Any other 30cal can recommendations?
Hey Caleb no one has a problem with your guns being dirty because you use them, hell we all shoot our ARs but do you not clean them when you get home from the range?
Caleb, while those do reduce the recoil, they're obnoxiously loud...a good middle ground is the Surefire brake...still helps a lot, but the geometry of the ports, makes the blast not nearly as terrible as others breaks I've encountered.
This is for anyone that has done this and done it successfully, How freaking weird was it the fist few magazines? Was a bit into the freaky end for me, almost like watching a new anime no fore knowledge about it, then halfway in the brother & sister scene happens. Like WTF JUST HAPPENED!!!???
BRT EZ TUNE GAS TUBES paired with Springco Color Springs , KAK LW Buffers and NOX9 KEYMO.. My main 2Gun Setups is this build and has absolutely 0 recoil .. BCM Upper , Radian Raptor LT , Brownells LW BCG with BCM Bolt Internals , BA 556n 13.9 HF CL Hanson with Pinned Nox9 KEYMO , BRT EZ Tune 0.073 Gas Tube ( equivalent to 0.070 Middy Gas Port ) , FCD / CMT 12.8" Mlok Rail , Vortex Micro 3x , Eotech EXPS2-2 , LWRCI IC Lower , Springco Yellow Spring , KAK 1.7oz Buffer , Geissele SD3G trigger , BCM SOPMOD MOD 1 Stock / Mod 3 GFG , FCD Ambi STS and Rattle can paint job.. I want as less Gas and less mass as possible while maintaining 100% reliability . I have 4k to 5k thru this setup and it my personal favorite to shoot . Cans add weight which in theory can reduce recoil . All I know is I can shoot significantly faster without a Can Vs With Can . I have yet to shoot a Can that actually reduces recoil . Lastly I'm not a fan of Adj Gas blocks. I've tried them all . I have yet to find one that doesnt seize up or completely fail . BRT EZ TUNE TUBES are the way to go for sure . Swap out the BRT Tube after 10k rounds . I'd rather pay 60 bucks for BRT Tuned Gas Tube every 10k then trusting any Adj Gas blocks
The B5 system does nothing more than the standard carbine buffer system (other than offer heavier weights for the buffer) which are not needed in a mid length or carbine gas system. The B5 system has less spring weight choices than a standard carbine system. The B5 system was created for a rifle length gas system, not a carbine gas system. The JP SCS offers more value than the B5.
I changed my 16" carbine barrel out for a new one of the same twist and chrome lining. The original barrel had enough rounds sent through it that the chrome lining is virtually non-existent and the gas port had eroded due to plasma jetting. The new barrel shoots and has a recoil impulse much like the original barrel did back in 2018.
Schuster makes an aftermarket adjustable gas plug for your M1. You can decrease the bolt speed w8th this gas plug which could reduce felt recoil. It may also make your rifle unreliable.
I genuinely believe a muzzlebreak with no suppressor is a down grade. It may shoot flatter but that gas will burn tf out of your eyes in a range or indoor environment
i wont use adjustable gas blocks…maybe in a competitive rifle. nothing serious. an H2 and geissele braided wire had made everything i own not a problem at all
If you need recoil reduction on a 5.56 gun you need A LOT more practice and to hit the gym more than the couch. It’s one of the softest shooting guns ever created even in its “milspec” configuration
MUZZLE BREAK IS THE WORST! Top 3. 1) more weight (quad rail, can, barrel contour) 2) longer gas system 3) longer buffer system. carb>a5>rifle And a fighting rifle with a brake? Terrible choice for indoor use, where you are more likely to use. Outdoor fighting is usually limited to LE and Military, neither would use a brake.
My teen daughters are like 110 lbs wet. Anything I can do to get rid of the spring feel, or minor recoil lets them compete faster. They will shoot a 308, but not fast.
What recoil? Just hit you target with the first shot. Carried the M-16A2 and irw light and fast. I assume there is not much difference with an M-4. Then again, all my ARs have carring handles except the Bull Barrel, so they all have IRON SIGHTS.
@@brownells Uhm...absolutely. I dont need gimmicks to put rounds on target. Proper stance, proper grip and shoulder Ill put rounds in 3'' targets all day. Stock buffer tube and all!
Reducing recoil is about staying on target and having faster follow-up shots, if you don't understand that, it's okay. Please note that I will in fact make fun of you a little bit if you post a condescending comment about AR already not having much recoil. With that being said, we do have more basic videos you may want to start with if you fall in that category.
LMAO...whatever helps you sleep at night!!
@@Chris-fw8wo what's the counter argument?
I like your style Caleb. There is nothing wrong with this video.
I understand that and it doesn't change my opinion on the matter. If you properly handle an intermediate caliber rifle, it already doesn't move off target. The other improvements are fine, but the added concussion of a muzzle break is a net negative.
@sultanofsick you can have a muzzle BRAKE and it not be a negative in any way other than cost. I have a Precision Armament EFAB on one of my rifles and it reduces flash just as well as a A2, gives off no more concussion than a A2 but is a effective BRAKE in that it reduces recoil and muzzle rise. Using true 5.56 loadings there definitely is some recoil and rise that can be mitigated especially when using mid length or shorter gas system and carbine buffer system. The age old saying of work smarter, not harder holds true here not to mention every shooting position isn't going to be the same under duress and anything that can help performance is welcome. Jerry Mikhalete, I know I butchered his name, is probably the best semi auto shooter in the world at putting fast accurate shots in great volumes buy even he uses BRAKES and other performance enhancements to achieve results. There is such things as force multipliers. I'm a decent but my SSA-E-X trigger, various muzzle BRAKES, adjustable gas block, custom speced gas tubes, A5 buffer system, JPC or Armaspec buffer system 90* short fore grip, K2+ grip, B5 grip, free floated rail ect for sure make me even better than a totally stock mil spec early 2000's build M4.
Muzzle breaks are also great for reducing the amount of people who want to go shooting with you. 😂
Try the Surefire brake; it's not terrible at all. I have it on a 14.5in mid length.
Especially with a short barrel. Lol
That's why every single one of my rifles has the most aggressive loudest muzzle break I can find on them
Not sure why I’d need a brake on an AR15.
So true
I think that the cheapest & quickest way to reduce the felt recoil of an AR15 is to simply borrow or rent an AR10 & shoot 75 rounds thru it. Done
True, it's all relative
I use JP silent capture recoil buffers and adjustable gas blocks in all my rifles. Love em.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
They work!
All that information and not a hair out of place.
Great job Caleb
Great tips! A muzzle break is an almost absolute way to reduce recoil, just know that when you pull the trigger, everyone’s coffee will kick in. I would add, as a possible inexpensive option, to swap out to a braided buffer spring from Giessele. If you’re going to put in the effort to change gas blocks, take the extra step and switch barrels. Carbine length gas systems will cycle reliably, but a mid length would be more gentle on the recoil.
These tips are all great but the biggest thing you can do is to actually put the stock in your shoulder and get a good cheek weld. It's pretty popular to not do this today.
Blame the NVG operator tacticool crap for awful fundamentals
Steven Segal stance is the only way
What about carbine vs mid-length gas systems?
minor difffences i think but sure
Minor difference for the most part. I think the super short barrel craze gets most people in hot water when it comes to recoil. A 16" gun with mid length gas system and an h2 buffer is gonna feel like a bb gun compared to a 10.5" with carbine length gas. But then again it's all relative really
@@CmoreTalkLessexcellent observation.
Rifle length gas system with rifle length buffer system is generally the softest shooting and then on down. Mid length gas/A5 buffer>Carbine gas/Carbine buffer>Pistol gas/pistol buffer. There can be exceptions. For instance some companies will open up their gas ports too much making a mid length worse than a Carbine. Adjustable gas system makes the biggest difference. For instance my short 30 cal rifles are both pistol gas systems with Carbine buffer systems but I have them on a H2 Armaspec buffer system and both are adjustable gas system and both have a brake. Even my 7.62x39 12" PWS Mk111 is pretty soft shooting for what it is and my 10.3" 300blk with the adjustable gas system shoots softer than many 16" 5.56 rifles.
Follow up topic: ways to reduce recoil on a 12ga, ways to reduce recoil on a 300 Win Mag or even 308. These would be useful topics.
People are gonna yell at me but I roll an SBR and putting a heavy buffer system in has made shooting it as smooth an experience as one can get
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@ I knew someone would laugh at it
Very helpful video, Caleb. Thank you.
Enjoy your videos. We need more! A lot more!
I've been thinking about trying an A5 buffer system setup and the riflespeed adjustable gas system. Currently rocking a good ole H2 buffer with a carbine spring with a dead air xeno flash hider to accept my AB A10 5.56 can but it shoots great. Great video
*Precision Armament’s* true crème de la crème is Hypertap. Expensive so I only have 3 of them. But they don’t require a crush washer, or any timing washers, and they have the greatest recoil reduction in muzzle brakes so far.
I have a Grendel Hunter muzzle brake on a 20' barrel (Obviously with a rifle length gas tube.) with the BCM recoil mitigation system and it's smooth as butter.
After watching this, i had to go grab my Sioincs sbr with a BCM A5 buffer system, and fondle it a lil😅
The Precision brake he shows off is insanely good at its job. I had it on a 20 inch Colt and the damn thing didnt budge even a little. I prefer flash hiders but it's definitely going to kill your recoil.
I would advise against brakes on a fighting rifle unless you're using it as a silencer host, because giant fireballs don't help you avoid return fire.
Very helpful, thanks
Thanks for watching
@@CalebSavant always enjoy and learn from your videos. Thanks
Caleb rocking with the kung fu grips he’s got black one too
“ARs don’t have recoil sunny!”
One shot doesn’t have much, but 9 inside of a second is a little more HP.
So if you wanted the best of both worlds with the gas block on a fighting rifle you’d use an adjustable gas block to figure out the perfect gas port size setting and then buy a fixed gas block that is that exact setting? Is that possible?
YHM makes a suppressor gas block that you can drill out to the size you want.
Tac weld the port and re drill it xD
I can verify the precision armorment brake with venting back towards the shooter works extremely well! Im using the 762 version on my ar10. Its makes a massive difference. My ar10 has basically no recoil now. I'm using it until I get my 30 cal can. The precision armorment brake is not friendly to anyone standing on to side/behind you. They will not like that thing at all. So it's not good for range but perfect for hunting in my opinion. Looking at hub version of the CAT ODB. Any other 30cal can recommendations?
Blue Sprinco Spring with KAK H2 buffer in my 11.5
Is that adjustable gas block adjustable from the front of the muzzle/handguard?
What weights do you recommend for the buffer system for 16" and 11.5? Both running with suppressors. Thanks
H2
The bcm mk 2 system paired with a geissele super 42 rifle length spring is the smoothest thing out there.
What about Geissele super 42?
Any way to reduce the recoil on a slide action shotgun?
anyone know the exact models of the brakes @ 01:49
Left is ultradyne and right is precision armament
Nice green Kung Fu grip
Muzzle Brake
Adjustable Gas Block
Adding Weight
Silent Capture Buffer
Reasons why you want to reduce recoil:
Spotting where your shots hit.
Faster follow up shots.
Better precision at distance.
More enjoyable to shoot.
Other than a buffer what can I do in New York?
The BCM buffer weight is a H1 equivalent and the Vltor is a H3 equivalent.
No
@brownells I think I fixed it. If not, please let me know and I'll erase the original comment.
PS, if I still have it wrong, where so?
18” bbl, rifle length gas system cuts recoil right off the bat😊 way better than a m4 if your scoped 👍
Thanks
Thanks.
Been meaning to say this, Caleb your the best !
You’re.
You are.
Words matter and have definitions.
I don't care how you spell it, I appreciate the compliment!
I would consider doing this to an ar-10, but an ar-15?
1.25x speed. You’re welcome.
Thank you
Caleb is Breaking the Law Breaking the Law..lol RUclips won't like this lol.
Dang, you already have the Lazarus 6!
Got it a week before release 😅
Jp tuned an polished buffer springs, dab of greese
What bcm buffer weight do your recommend?
Depends on other factors but in most cases a H1 is a good choice.
Haircut's back!
For my other tip.....
I have a 5-1/2 lb 30-06. It's kinda snappy. Come fire 50 rounds thru it, then go back to your AR. You're welcome.
Check the pinned comment 😉
If I remember right, the slower the bullet, the less effective the brake works.
How much milder recoil do you need on a .223 Rem? Just saying :p
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Hey Caleb no one has a problem with your guns being dirty because you use them, hell we all shoot our ARs but do you not clean them when you get home from the range?
I see someone else hooked on KungFu grips like myself. 🤣
Anyone know of a good muzzle brake for a 308 that won’t blow dirt all over you when in the prone position?
Omega 300
@@veteranironoutdoors8320. thanks for the intel brother. I appreciate it. 👊
We're still doing this?
We're not stopping
Make a gen 3 BRN!!!!!
For all of you badass’ that feel no recoil impluse good on you! But it is fun to shoot a lightweight AR that has minimal recoil impulse!
Caleb, while those do reduce the recoil, they're obnoxiously loud...a good middle ground is the Surefire brake...still helps a lot, but the geometry of the ports, makes the blast not nearly as terrible as others breaks I've encountered.
This is for anyone that has done this and done it successfully,
How freaking weird was it the fist few magazines? Was a bit into the freaky end for me, almost like watching a new anime no fore knowledge about it, then halfway in the brother & sister scene happens. Like WTF JUST HAPPENED!!!???
So many people are gonna decrease reliability because of this video
How so?
@brownells because they don't understand the system and are gonna mess up the " tune"
@@johnadams673 we're here to help them understand the system, we have plenty of content to help.
BRT EZ TUNE GAS TUBES paired with Springco Color Springs , KAK LW Buffers and NOX9 KEYMO..
My main 2Gun Setups is this build and has absolutely 0 recoil ..
BCM Upper , Radian Raptor LT , Brownells LW BCG with BCM Bolt Internals , BA 556n 13.9 HF CL Hanson with Pinned Nox9 KEYMO , BRT EZ Tune 0.073 Gas Tube ( equivalent to 0.070 Middy Gas Port ) , FCD / CMT 12.8" Mlok Rail , Vortex Micro 3x , Eotech EXPS2-2 , LWRCI IC Lower , Springco Yellow Spring , KAK 1.7oz Buffer , Geissele SD3G trigger , BCM SOPMOD MOD 1 Stock / Mod 3 GFG , FCD Ambi STS and Rattle can paint job..
I want as less Gas and less mass as possible while maintaining 100% reliability . I have 4k to 5k thru this setup and it my personal favorite to shoot .
Cans add weight which in theory can reduce recoil . All I know is I can shoot significantly faster without a Can Vs With Can .
I have yet to shoot a Can that actually reduces recoil .
Lastly I'm not a fan of Adj Gas blocks. I've tried them all . I have yet to find one that doesnt seize up or completely fail . BRT EZ TUNE TUBES are the way to go for sure . Swap out the BRT Tube after 10k rounds . I'd rather pay 60 bucks for BRT Tuned Gas Tube every 10k then trusting any Adj Gas blocks
The B5 system does nothing more than the standard carbine buffer system (other than offer heavier weights for the buffer) which are not needed in a mid length or carbine gas system.
The B5 system has less spring weight choices than a standard carbine system. The B5 system was created for a rifle length gas system, not a carbine gas system.
The JP SCS offers more value than the B5.
Number one way is to grow a pair.
Done, next?
I changed my 16" carbine barrel out for a new one of the same twist and chrome lining. The original barrel had enough rounds sent through it that the chrome lining is virtually non-existent and the gas port had eroded due to plasma jetting.
The new barrel shoots and has a recoil impulse much like the original barrel did back in 2018.
4th thing....
Do push ups and run a mile everyday
#GetOnGab
What recoil?
Next video: Top three ways to ease the discomfort of mosquito bites.
Nah, this is a gun channel
I prefer a muzzel break on my personal M109 Paladin, but don't see much need for one on my AR.
A suppressor on my rifle, though? Great idea!
😁👍
Recoil doesn’t bother me
Muzzle rise does
Dude, is that an AT-4 sitting in that gun safe back there? Talk about recoil mitigation. 🤔
How to reduce recoil on my M1?
Schuster makes an aftermarket adjustable gas plug for your M1. You can decrease the bolt speed w8th this gas plug which could reduce felt recoil. It may also make your rifle unreliable.
Next video: how to reduce recoil in a .22LR
Actually...
I genuinely believe a muzzlebreak with no suppressor is a down grade. It may shoot flatter but that gas will burn tf out of your eyes in a range or indoor environment
The best way to resuce recoil from an AR-15 is to learn to shoot it correctly.
Reduce recoil on a ar? OmG , we are doomed.
Check the pinned comment 😉
Grip
Number four: Start working out
RAD!
Correction. Step 1: Buy a BRN180 upper. Your recoil has now been reduced by 75%.
Correction...you are so wrong.
@dbelex nah ah
Recoil? What recoil?
i wont use adjustable gas blocks…maybe in a competitive rifle. nothing serious. an H2 and geissele braided wire had made everything i own not a problem at all
Miculek magnetic buffer system. Thank me later.
The most obvious is weight , 10 lb ar , fast follow up
Almost no recoil? Haha The shorter the gas system the more recoil. Yes it does have recoil on shorter gas systems.
Recoil? Ar15? I didnt know these words could be used together
Check the pinned comment 😉
If you need recoil reduction on a 5.56 gun you need A LOT more practice and to hit the gym more than the couch. It’s one of the softest shooting guns ever created even in its “milspec” configuration
See pinned comment
You totally missed the entire point dude…
You cant buy fast repeatable followup shots.
Full auto is expensive but it can be bought
Is marijuana legal in Iowa now?
Would a lightened BCG have any recoil reducing effect?
This is the 9mm problem
Recoil? Do some push-ups and eat
It's about faster followup shots, pay attention
Adjustable gas block? Just tac weld the gas port and re dril it xD
MUZZLE BREAK IS THE WORST! Top 3. 1) more weight (quad rail, can, barrel contour) 2) longer gas system 3) longer buffer system. carb>a5>rifle
And a fighting rifle with a brake? Terrible choice for indoor use, where you are more likely to use. Outdoor fighting is usually limited to LE and Military, neither would use a brake.
My teen daughters are like 110 lbs wet. Anything I can do to get rid of the spring feel, or minor recoil lets them compete faster.
They will shoot a 308, but not fast.
Oh yeah, the recoil from an AR15 is so devastating. Maybe you should get a Red Ryder BB gun
It's about faster followup shots, pay attention
just eat more... weight absorbs recoil
Lift more
What recoil? Just hit you target with the first shot.
Carried the M-16A2 and irw light and fast. I assume there is not much difference with an M-4.
Then again, all my ARs have carring handles except the Bull Barrel, so they all have IRON SIGHTS.
Physics.
Fud alert ⚠
WHAT RECOIL TRY A 3&1/2 12 GAUGE 30 OR 15 ROUNDS IN A ROW EVEN 308 IS NOT THAT BAD DON'T SHOOT IT THEN. STAY WITH YOUR 22 LR
Stop yelling and check the pinned comment
No. 1 way is to invest in yourself, muscle mass..be fit. A limp man is never in control, a strong man maintains control in all of life's obstacles.
Oh brother😂😂🙄 Just hold the gun properly and use your shoulder to push. The rest is just a gimmick to sell you something
Serious? Lol
@@brownells Uhm...absolutely. I dont need gimmicks to put rounds on target. Proper stance, proper grip and shoulder Ill put rounds in 3'' targets all day. Stock buffer tube and all!
@@Chris-fw8wo see the pinned comment
Ummmm, it's a 223. If that recoil bothers you, just give up. Shooting isn't for you.
It's about faster followup shots, pay attention
#1: go to the gym. .223 recoil should not be of concern to you unless you are physically infirm in some way.
Check the pinned comment
Is there recoil on an ar-15? 😂😂😂
Yes; it’s called physics.
@@AJohnSmithNewton is annoying sometimes 😅