@@seanupton709 that's a good question haha that I should probably ask myself. I don't have anything against him, maybe just not really one of the more bubbly/charismatic guys that we see playing in these games
I hate viffer he only agreed with that play because he’s such a big DONK like Baxter is. The dude really don’t know how to play... all he did was bet every turn because he had Kings. There was nothing special at all here. No offense to anyone In the online poker community but that’s what he was playing like. It should of been an obvious fold on the flop
Honey, he hurt my feelings by not announcing 2 kings, although I saw 2 kings 300 ms later. But for 300 ms I was so mislead and hopeful. A heartbreaker honey, that amateur is such a meanie.
Seemed like he thought helmuth had the set or boat with that river call hence not announcing his kings. Helmuth is really dumb for not realizing this. Edit: got a little further in the clip and pink hair guy reiterated my point. Or I reiterated his I guess. And helmuth realizing he’s wrong had nothing to say except a 20 second pause followed by “are you serious”
Just about everything Phil does is unintentionally ironic, but I find it extra funny that he's telling him he "Looks ridiculous," and then the camera shows him with a bleached mohawk and purple down the sides.... ACTUALLY looking ridiculous. I love Viffer if only for his playstyle, but he does look ridiculous here. Just not for his actions.
Hellmouth is a sore loser. And actually a terrible cash game player. He’s great at tournaments but clueless about cash games. He’s the fish every one wants at the table.
@John Bistis Dude, I know what you mean, but if he's going for 3 streets here, Phil is out kicked. He has all the over pairs and A9s minimum. So Phil is never good with his kicker. Which he knows, he's just a tilting arsehole. Phil's hand is a bluff catcher as played. He is beating 0% of Baxter's value range.
@@PaulMAruba11 because he’s mad at himself for being wrong. He shouldn’t blow up on people but that’s just who he is. Doesn’t make it right but it makes for good tv. Phil does say nice hand when the cameras aren’t rolling. He’s actually said it to me personally
You ever notice that whenever Phil gets cleaned out by the most rudimentary strategy in the book he ALWAYS complains that he's the only one who actually knows how to play poker properly?
If you play live poker. You hear this kind of stuff from players all the time. They're rarely the best, but will always try to convince themselves and others that they are.
A slow roll is when a player purposefully pauses before calling a (usually all-in) bet with an extremely strong or unbeatable poker hand. It’s also considered a slow roll when a player intentionally pauses before revealing the winning hand at showdown. 20 years playing and still doesn't know shit.
He did pause and slow the showdown action with the "nuts". There is no combination he loses for given the action. This is clearly a slowroll. Ur just a donk who also doesn't know a thing about poker.
Im no pro but im still trying to find out qhen he slow rolled him Phil called at 2:10 and the bloke shows his 2 pair at 2:14. Am.i missing something? He had the winning hand but not the nuts
Phil had nothing to get mad at. Baxter played well and had a great hand. Phil couldn’t do his normal complaining about how bad the opponent played or how lucky he got. So he had to invent something to get mad at. This is obviously not a slowroll, everyone knows it including Phil.
Well ur a donk. That was a slowroll. He slowed the showdown action for no reason, because his pocket KK was unbeatable for that board by the action. He is either totally clueless how to play poker or he slowrolled. Thats why Hellmuth was so mad.
@@raywestcoast98 He didn’t slow anything down, he announced two pair and Phil didn’t react at all. So he turned over his hand immediately after that. Phil was more mad that he announced “two pair”, which that IS technically what he had, but you don’t typically say that when there’s a pair on the board and you have an overpair. But it isn’t a slowroll. If he had pocket 3’s, said “two pair”, and then took forever to flip his cards, THAT would be a slowroll. But as I said. Baxter didn’t even take long to flip his cards. So yeah, there was no one TO get mad at here. The hands played themselves. So he had to invent something to make Baxter somehow be the “bad guy” to justify his angry tirade. It’s classic Hellmuth stuff. Nice try tho 😅
@@raywestcoast98 nuts? Bro theres literally so many hands that beat this guy. As fast as phil called he could easily have had trip 3s with a bad kicker. Learn poker
@@raywestcoast98 You don't know what a slow-roll is. KK was not unbeatable. Only the caller on the river can slow-roll. Phil was the one calling... it was impossible for Baxter to slowroll.
This is the best one yet. Phil actually telling Vif he looks stupid when he reads the situation perfectly while Phil just made a complete fool of himself. He reminds me of my brother in law
I get what Hellmuth was thinking. Announcing "2 pair" implies that you dont have a pocket pair and you made 2 pair with the board. Baxter with pocket Kings should have said "kings" because saying 2 pair is kind of redundant because the pair of 3's was shared by everyone. That being said, Hellmuth was just whining about losing a pot.
He probably thought two pair wasn’t good, but he still should have said kings or just turned the cards over without saying anything. But Hellmuth is the biggest drama queen in poker so it hurts 10 times more for him
I think Baxter reckons there's a decent chance he's up against trip 3s. He should probably say "Kings" but I don't think there's any intent to slow roll given how quickly the call comes and his hand is turned over.
He doesn’t have to say anything. He doesn’t have to say “kings”. He said what he had, and he had 2 pair. Baxter did absolutely nothing wrong, and this wasn’t a slowroll. Phil had to invent something to get mad at because he couldn’t complain like he normally does about the opponent getting lucky or playing bad.
Wrong, Negreanu has done this exact move even worse and when asked about it he basically says we’re playing poker, it’s all about reading other players which is true, why should anyone tip a hand unless it’s to play a mental game
I had a player accuse me of slow rolling once on a play just like that. I had pocket Queens to pair with 10's on the board. He held J/5 for Jacks over 10's. He made a big thing out of it just like Phil did here. About forty minutes later we're head-to-head with my trip sixes and his pocket Aces. At the river the board is busted so I know there's no flushes, straights, or boats. With no pairs on the board I know he can only beat me with higher trips. He raised me and I just called because I feared he might have me because he was betting so heavy. When I called he turned over his bullets and I just sat there for about four seconds and then turned over my pocket sixes. As I did so, I said " now this is what a slow roll really is." Honestly everybody got a little ticked at me but I felt it was important to make the point of not complaining about a slow roll unless there really IS a slow roll. And a couple of players even said "he's right, that was a slow roll, that hand before wasn't." Phil just needs to grow up.
There isn't. Daniel just laughs at him and "agrees" in whatever Helmuth says. Which is exactly how you should handle him. BUT, I kind of like how Tony G bullies him too. I mean how can you get him more tilting.
@@skillfuldabest still not a slow-roll , he had no idea if he was ahead and the speed of hellmuth's call indicated he had far better than what he was holding. What words were used is irrelevant. No slow-roll here!
@@skillfuldabest I have been slow rolled plenty, that was not a slow roll. Example of a real slow roll in this situation: Get's called says "You got me". When Phil shows the nine, he rolls over the Kings saying "Oh I thought you had a full house". Citing this hand as played as a slow roll, is equivalent to going to the ER for a papercut.
Pretty clear you have no clue. Get called with kings there you are 100% good. You should be able to bet your life savings that Phil isn’t snapping you off there beating kings. You think anyone would just call with trips or even aces there lmao? Plus the idiot turns his card over slowly after being the agressor. Then he says two pair to make it worse.
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Imagine that hand between Calacanis and Negreanu, where he talks Daniel into calling 35k, if that was with Hellmuth, Calacanis would probably still be in a coma.
But lets be honest... if they didn't encourage Phil to act this way for ratings he wouldn't be on the shows. Phil thinks that the game is played a certain way and cant accept that the game is different than it was 10 years ago.
This was from OVER 10 years ago. Phil acting this way is a bit on point for his brand and whatnot, but let's also acknowledge he's also on here because of the bracelets. Plenty of guys act crazy at the tables that don't get tv time.
He ALWAYS acts like it's the opponents fault that he lost!! Like according to phil's logic, if the opponent would have played BETTER, phil would have won.
There are 20+ pros I would love to play with just for the conversation (Daniel Negreanu and others) but to watch PH go volcanic would be worth the price of admission.
@@mrx7181 Disagree. There is a difference between what an experienced player would say vs. what a slowroller would say. It's more comfortable to say Kings there but he still had two pair and not a set or fullhouse.
He said two pair and he had two pair. He showed his hand within a second after saying two pair. I think you're splitting hairs. Moreover, how on earth can PH criticize anyone for bad poker etiquette? He's by far the rudest player I've seen on video.
@@HopyHop1 it's not a huge deal but pretty much Phil is going to raise the river with all of his hands that can beat any overpair in this spot so any overpair is in fact the nuts when you get check called on the river here. If you can beat a nine announce your hand as "tens" "jacks" etc. because your opponent clearly cannot beat an overpair.
So the man value bets 3 streets with 2-pair. What 2 pair could Helmuth possibly beat that would bet like that? Did he really expect the guy to turn over 96 or 66? When the man announced 2 pair those would be the only hands he could beat. As for me, I would be astonished to see anybody play either of those hands that way. When he said " 2 pair" Phil should have know he was beat.
He for sure should have kings, but hellmuth was literally only beating a bluff, so If Baxter didn't Muck after, he should have known he was most likely going to lose the hand
I believe you mean "he for sure should have SAID have kings", but he doesn't have to do so. Saying two pairs, and then turning them over is enough. There's no slow roll there if you turn them up before your opponent does, especially if you're betting all 3 streets PLUS pre-flop.
i guess helmuth is saying baxter knew phil didn’t have 3 3’s based on how he bet so he knew he had won the hand with the King high double pair and did the “slow roll” but it’s a bit of a stretch lol
That isn't slow rolling.. He kept betting and Phil kept calling... I would've said I had Kings, two pair. Only different thing I would have done. Either way Phil didn't read that he had a high pocket pair. Also if buddy had a nine, Phil's kicker wasn't great, being a nine. Buddy just played pocket kings on a low board. Good play.
U didn't get the point clearly. Pocket KK is the "nuts" there. The guy slowed the showdown action for no reason, he always had the best hand there. That was the slowroll.
@@raywestcoast98 How is KK the nuts? What about aces? Or a straight? Or a trips or a house? Or literally any of twenty hands possible with that board that beat pocket kings?
@@raywestcoast98 Um... please check your poker hands again. That was not the nuts. Look at Joshua's post. And that's not a slow-roll anyway. Only the caller can slow-roll and it only happens on the river. Hellmuth was the one calling on the river.
You just said a player with 17 WSOP Bracelets was _"terrible."_ He's one of the greatest poker players of all time. Disliking him personally won't change that.
Totally agree with Viffer. Hellmuth called so quick it was ridiculous. So glad Viffer spoke up. Hellmuth is entertaining but he sound like an idiot when he mouths off like this
He could have a 9 with a better kicker. Apparently Phil was upset because he thought “two pair” meant he had won the pot, but there was no reason for him to think that. Was he going to bet a two pair hand that Phil could beat for three streets?
Casinos say the cards speak for themselves, but if you were in my house and did that and I was a neutral observer of the hand, I would have said you called two pair, that is what you have. If you argued it, I would have asked you to leave and never come back.
It's one of those, unwritten "poker etiquette" rules. Baxter, at this time, wasn't a professional player, yet. You can CLEARLY see he is hesitant to turn his cards over, while having the winning hand. This is what made Phil upset and said that he slow rolled him.
What is Phil saying here? I'm really trying to understand why he thinks this is a slow roll... So if the guy didn't say anything, and then turned over 2 kings, that would have been ok? But because he said "2 pair" like half a second before he turned his kings over, then THAT'S a slow roll? Is there anyone who thinks that Phil has a legitimate argument here? I'm seriously trying to understand, cuz I don't want to slow roll anyone...
Turns his cards over awfully slow and says “two pair”. If you have overpairs here you don’t say two pair. You’d say kings. Phil literally said that. It is such a cunt thing to do to actually say two pair.
@@Born2Punch I disagree. "Kings" is not one of the 10 pokerhands. High card Pair 2 pair Trips Straight Flush Full house Straight flush Quads Royale So announcing 2 pair is correct. If Phil were to respond 1 pair both players know who wins. If Phil were to announce trips, both players still know who wins. But if both have 2 pair, it comes down to which cards exactly. That's when you announce Kings. And to be fair, I think he really put Phil on A3 so set of 3's or pocket in hand and set one of the other cards. The guy even said sorry. It was never the intention to slow roll. Clear as day. No offense
Phil has the nerve to criticize the play when he recently called an all in with Q4 and got very lucky against 99. I remember at the WSOP he had a set of 8s on the turn but the guy turned the nut straight and Phil paid the guy off and then criticized the play. To me Phil always seems to get himself (being too clever and trying to trap too often) into trouble (allowing his opponent to make the nuts) and pays off the pot and doesn't like that he was beat, even though if it was the other way about he would do the same thing and would say its world class poker. You think if you have made millions from Poker you would calm down a bit lol
There is a poker etiquette in the pro circle about how to call the cards you have but Mike Baxter wasn't a pro at the time. He was a businessman just like Laliberte at this table. That's also why Baxter apologized quickly assuming that Phil was right to be angry. Hellmuth should have known there were non-pros at the table so he was out of line.
That was not a slow roll. So many hands beat him. What you are calling slow roll is old school mentality. Slow head. It is why Hellmuth was great, but lags behind and is just a name.
Yeah, Hellmuth was totally wrong, being a bully, basically calling a guy an idiot because he played smarter than someone who is a legend in his own mind,then using his legacy to disrespect a guy who respectfully begged to differ.
I respect Phil less and less every time I see him being a prick for no reason. The man clearly thought he was crushed which is why he was hesitant to flip them over. You can tell by his body language he thought he must have played the hand terrible.
Taking a long time to turn over your hand at showdown when you have a monster such as quads like you think you might be behind or tanking then calling when facing a shove with the nuts. Baxter did neither of those here.
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Not a big Viffer fan but him defending the play here is great. He's totally right, and explains why
why aren't you a fan? Just curious.
@@seanupton709 that's a good question haha that I should probably ask myself. I don't have anything against him, maybe just not really one of the more bubbly/charismatic guys that we see playing in these games
I hate viffer he only agreed with that play because he’s such a big DONK like Baxter is. The dude really don’t know how to play... all he did was bet every turn because he had Kings. There was nothing special at all here. No offense to anyone In the online poker community but that’s what he was playing like. It should of been an obvious fold on the flop
That was a slowroll
He stiffed Scott Frost for a big amount after losses in one pocket. Scott filed a lawsuit and they settled.
Honey, he hurt my feelings by not announcing 2 kings, although I saw 2 kings 300 ms later. But for 300 ms I was so mislead and hopeful. A heartbreaker honey, that amateur is such a meanie.
😂
It's designed to alter future play at the table. He thinks people will be less likely to mislead him in future situations.
He's such an idiot player. His filthy Kings beat my weak 9s, he probably can't even spell "poker".
Seemed like he thought helmuth had the set or boat with that river call hence not announcing his kings. Helmuth is really dumb for not realizing this.
Edit: got a little further in the clip and pink hair guy reiterated my point. Or I reiterated his I guess. And helmuth realizing he’s wrong had nothing to say except a 20 second pause followed by “are you serious”
what is ms dude? I agree with you but no idea what that means ms that is
‘You look ridiculous to all the pros’ is single handedly the most ironic thing I’ve ever heard
funnily phil is the one that looks ridiculous to all the pros. he is a big baby.
@@PartyRaveAnimals He looks ridiculous to people who don't know how to play poker, too.
@@PartyRaveAnimals which is why it’s ironic that he says that lol
@@joeydrummer7929 I swear I read his comment as "moronic" rather than ironic.
@@PartyRaveAnimals16 WSOP
Baxter didn’t do anything wrong, you lost Phil and I’m satisfied 😂
😂😂🤣🤣
If Baxter had simply said "Kings", Phil would have just taken another route to attack him anyway.
I was hoping someone would say you called a raise with 10-9, what an idiot, like he does to everyone else !!
Would he have said pair if he had AK ?
That's what we're here for
Hellmuth saying anyone “looks ridiculous” has gotta be the biggest irony in all of poker
Phil is a narcissist. He really thinks he is the smartest guy in the room...just ask him!
Just about everything Phil does is unintentionally ironic, but I find it extra funny that he's telling him he "Looks ridiculous," and then the camera shows him with a bleached mohawk and purple down the sides.... ACTUALLY looking ridiculous. I love Viffer if only for his playstyle, but he does look ridiculous here. Just not for his actions.
That is never a slow roll, wht is Phil on about? Baxter is an amateur who correctly said he had 2 pair, Phil is never happy
New Order!
Hellmouth is a sore loser. And actually a terrible cash game player. He’s great at tournaments but clueless about cash games. He’s the fish every one wants at the table.
@John Bistis oh yeah, I agree with you, saying 2 pair there is a bit poor but was accidental from Baxter I feel, Phil just needs to grow up
@John Bistis Dude, I know what you mean, but if he's going for 3 streets here, Phil is out kicked. He has all the over pairs and A9s minimum. So Phil is never good with his kicker. Which he knows, he's just a tilting arsehole.
Phil's hand is a bluff catcher as played. He is beating 0% of Baxter's value range.
Did you just called Baxter an amateur? Wtf...
100% agree with Viffer. Hellmuth is way out of line here and also 100% wrong.
I would honestly just love to hear Phil tell his opponent "nice hand" occasionally. With no more after that. But he just can't help himself
WHY does Phil HAVE to attack the winner EVERY time he loses ?!? And do NOT, EVER, say "sorry" to Phil. !!
@@PaulMAruba11 because he’s mad at himself for being wrong. He shouldn’t blow up on people but that’s just who he is. Doesn’t make it right but it makes for good tv. Phil does say nice hand when the cameras aren’t rolling. He’s actually said it to me personally
Viffer looked ridiculous in front of a true pro like Alan Cunningham, I can tell you that
@@PaulMAruba11 Because he is a bad loser. He literally lacks the character to do it. Speaks volumes about the man.
Helmuth- only player on this planet who has never been beat by a player who knew what they were doing🤣🤣🤣
Honey he called the raise with KK
dead
Call a waaaaambulance
Some online guy....
The kings raised it to 1,600 and Phil called.
@@mikegrand4181 thanks sherlock
Lmao at Viffer. “A world class player like you snap called. He thought kings might not be good.”
I liked that
😂😂😂😂😂
Dead. On.
You ever notice that whenever Phil gets cleaned out by the most rudimentary strategy in the book he ALWAYS complains that he's the only one who actually knows how to play poker properly?
The way to play poker properly is to win! And the only way to lose is taking Phil seriously
Baxter handled it with such class. If I were in his position I might have replied with some anger
Yes ..not sorry! More like stop whining because you played trash!
I would have laughed at Phil......said nothing...just laugh lol
If you play live poker. You hear this kind of stuff from players all the time. They're rarely the best, but will always try to convince themselves and others that they are.
anger for what? lol
If I was Baxter I would’ve been waitingggg for a real opportunity to slow roll Phil for real after these antics. 😂
A slow roll is when a player purposefully pauses before calling a (usually all-in) bet with an extremely strong or unbeatable poker hand. It’s also considered a slow roll when a player intentionally pauses before revealing the winning hand at showdown. 20 years playing and still doesn't know shit.
He did pause and slow the showdown action with the "nuts". There is no combination he loses for given the action. This is clearly a slowroll. Ur just a donk who also doesn't know a thing about poker.
Phil is like that dude at the grocery store lookin for a “slip and fall” lawsuit!! 🤣🤣
Im no pro but im still trying to find out qhen he slow rolled him
Phil called at 2:10 and the bloke shows his 2 pair at 2:14. Am.i missing something? He had the winning hand but not the nuts
"He doesn't say Kings, he says two pair" 😂😂😂
Phil had nothing to get mad at. Baxter played well and had a great hand. Phil couldn’t do his normal complaining about how bad the opponent played or how lucky he got. So he had to invent something to get mad at. This is obviously not a slowroll, everyone knows it including Phil.
Well ur a donk. That was a slowroll. He slowed the showdown action for no reason, because his pocket KK was unbeatable for that board by the action. He is either totally clueless how to play poker or he slowrolled. Thats why Hellmuth was so mad.
@@raywestcoast98 He didn’t slow anything down, he announced two pair and Phil didn’t react at all. So he turned over his hand immediately after that. Phil was more mad that he announced “two pair”, which that IS technically what he had, but you don’t typically say that when there’s a pair on the board and you have an overpair. But it isn’t a slowroll. If he had pocket 3’s, said “two pair”, and then took forever to flip his cards, THAT would be a slowroll. But as I said. Baxter didn’t even take long to flip his cards.
So yeah, there was no one TO get mad at here. The hands played themselves. So he had to invent something to make Baxter somehow be the “bad guy” to justify his angry tirade. It’s classic Hellmuth stuff.
Nice try tho 😅
@@OJuggernautO Yes he did slow down things by not immediatelly showing the hand. You cant be that slow to show ur nuts haha lol.
@@raywestcoast98 nuts? Bro theres literally so many hands that beat this guy. As fast as phil called he could easily have had trip 3s with a bad kicker. Learn poker
@@raywestcoast98 You don't know what a slow-roll is. KK was not unbeatable. Only the caller on the river can slow-roll. Phil was the one calling... it was impossible for Baxter to slowroll.
This is the best one yet. Phil actually telling Vif he looks stupid when he reads the situation perfectly while Phil just made a complete fool of himself.
He reminds me of my brother in law
I get what Hellmuth was thinking. Announcing "2 pair" implies that you dont have a pocket pair and you made 2 pair with the board. Baxter with pocket Kings should have said "kings" because saying 2 pair is kind of redundant because the pair of 3's was shared by everyone. That being said, Hellmuth was just whining about losing a pot.
He probably thought two pair wasn’t good, but he still should have said kings or just turned the cards over without saying anything. But Hellmuth is the biggest drama queen in poker so it hurts 10 times more for him
I think Baxter reckons there's a decent chance he's up against trip 3s. He should probably say "Kings" but I don't think there's any intent to slow roll given how quickly the call comes and his hand is turned over.
He doesn’t have to say anything. He doesn’t have to say “kings”. He said what he had, and he had 2 pair. Baxter did absolutely nothing wrong, and this wasn’t a slowroll. Phil had to invent something to get mad at because he couldn’t complain like he normally does about the opponent getting lucky or playing bad.
I think announcing "2 pair" implies exactly ... 2 pair.
Wrong, Negreanu has done this exact move even worse and when asked about it he basically says we’re playing poker, it’s all about reading other players which is true, why should anyone tip a hand unless it’s to play a mental game
As tony g said once, phil deserve to loose 😂
lol when Tony G is giving advice on poker etiquette, that's when Phil REALLY needs to address his behaviour.
How do you loose?
I had a player accuse me of slow rolling once on a play just like that. I had pocket Queens to pair with 10's on the board. He held J/5 for Jacks over 10's. He made a big thing out of it just like Phil did here. About forty minutes later we're head-to-head with my trip sixes and his pocket Aces. At the river the board is busted so I know there's no flushes, straights, or boats. With no pairs on the board I know he can only beat me with higher trips. He raised me and I just called because I feared he might have me because he was betting so heavy. When I called he turned over his bullets and I just sat there for about four seconds and then turned over my pocket sixes. As I did so, I said " now this is what a slow roll really is." Honestly everybody got a little ticked at me but I felt it was important to make the point of not complaining about a slow roll unless there really IS a slow roll. And a couple of players even said "he's right, that was a slow roll, that hand before wasn't." Phil just needs to grow up.
How Phil has never gotten is ass kicked is astonishing.
Baxter shows aggression on every street. What two pair did Phil think he was beating?
This is exactly right, PH checks and Baxter goes in harder on every street! Hellmuth is such a fucking crybaby toolbox. #douchemuth
guy that won was so humble, i have a friend like this, he always says sorry when he wins and he means it
Is he from the midwest or canada?
Phil is a permanent adolescent ….. with some poker skills.
And 16 wsop
Always a classic to come to after a bad session. Phil is hilarious
if there isn’t any of this against daniel i’ll be disappointed
There isn't. Daniel just laughs at him and "agrees" in whatever Helmuth says. Which is exactly how you should handle him. BUT, I kind of like how Tony G bullies him too. I mean how can you get him more tilting.
@@johnstelte2746 Daniel has grown a lot more salty in his old age, i wouldn’t be surprised if we see some ranting on both sides lol
@@benconlon875 True I've seen his raging clips too! But I believe against Phil he would keep a higher level mind 😄
@@johnstelte2746 yeah i expect ur right tbf haha
No Phil YOU look ridiculous. As Usual 🤣🤣🤣
how is having KK a Slow Roll there lol, it's like the 20th best hand possible
@@skillfuldabest That's still not a supposed slow roll.
@@skillfuldabest still not a slow-roll , he had no idea if he was ahead and the speed of hellmuth's call indicated he had far better than what he was holding. What words were used is irrelevant. No slow-roll here!
@@skillfuldabest I have been slow rolled plenty, that was not a slow roll. Example of a real slow roll in this situation: Get's called says "You got me". When Phil shows the nine, he rolls over the Kings saying "Oh I thought you had a full house". Citing this hand as played as a slow roll, is equivalent to going to the ER for a papercut.
Pretty clear you have no clue. Get called with kings there you are 100% good. You should be able to bet your life savings that Phil isn’t snapping you off there beating kings. You think anyone would just call with trips or even aces there lmao? Plus the idiot turns his card over slowly after being the agressor. Then he says two pair to make it worse.
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lol
I disagree.
Phil is so full of himself. Soon as someone doesn't play how he would they're stupid or wrong lol
If i am ever lucky enough to sit down at a table with Phil, everytime he starts this behaviour im calling the floor. Just to tilt him even more
Even the floor would say: Oh, don't you know Phil Helmuth?
I think I would just sit there and chuckle at him.
“A world class player like you snap called. He thought kings might not be good.“ hahahahahahaha
Imagine that hand between Calacanis and Negreanu, where he talks Daniel into calling 35k, if that was with Hellmuth, Calacanis would probably still be in a coma.
Phil's new handle: 'Mister Outta Line'.
If this would’ve been someone else Phil would’ve been over there saying “how do you make that call. You know you’re beat.?”
God i love viffer. whenever I watch him play he seems such a good dude.
That is not a slow roll homie
Wow Phil was completely out of line like usual
this is definitely not Phils worst behaviour
But lets be honest... if they didn't encourage Phil to act this way for ratings he wouldn't be on the shows. Phil thinks that the game is played a certain way and cant accept that the game is different than it was 10 years ago.
This was from OVER 10 years ago. Phil acting this way is a bit on point for his brand and whatnot, but let's also acknowledge he's also on here because of the bracelets. Plenty of guys act crazy at the tables that don't get tv time.
@@dohpe- He's the best NL tournamemt player there's ever been. Quite the credential if you ask me! 🙂
He’d still be on. Like other poker pros.
I would say yeah because the guy clearly had no intention of disrespecting him… Peak Poker Brat
Phil Hellmuth acting like a big baby, who is never wrong... say it ain't so 😳.
He ALWAYS acts like it's the opponents fault that he lost!! Like according to phil's logic, if the opponent would have played BETTER, phil would have won.
I love these old clips ... keep em coming!
Can we now get the interaction between Viffers K9o and Phil Helmuth AKo please...
There are 20+ pros I would love to play with just for the conversation (Daniel Negreanu and others) but to watch PH go volcanic would be worth the price of admission.
Meanwhile Viffer tells people to die in a grease fire when he loses online 😂😂😂
Lol
That is a slowroll but Baxter definitely didn't mean it he's just an amateur. He asked eli Elezra what he had before showing him a set of fives once.
You definitely need to say Kings when you get called there not two pair.
@@mrx7181 Disagree. There is a difference between what an experienced player would say vs. what a slowroller would say. It's more comfortable to say Kings there but he still had two pair and not a set or fullhouse.
He said two pair and he had two pair. He showed his hand within a second after saying two pair. I think you're splitting hairs. Moreover, how on earth can PH criticize anyone for bad poker etiquette? He's by far the rudest player I've seen on video.
@@HopyHop1 it's not a huge deal but pretty much Phil is going to raise the river with all of his hands that can beat any overpair in this spot so any overpair is in fact the nuts when you get check called on the river here. If you can beat a nine announce your hand as "tens" "jacks" etc. because your opponent clearly cannot beat an overpair.
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IDK, from what I've seen of PH it seems like he was simply fishing for an excuse to throw a fit because he's a sore loser.
Baxter says "two pair" because Phil insta calls River bet and Baxter probably thinks Phil could have the JT for a Straight.
Phil and I must have a different definition of slow roll hahaha
So the man value bets 3 streets with 2-pair. What 2 pair could Helmuth possibly beat that would bet like that? Did he really expect the guy to turn over 96 or 66? When the man announced 2 pair those would be the only hands he could beat. As for me, I would be astonished to see anybody play either of those hands that way. When he said " 2 pair" Phil should have know he was beat.
Phil biting his earpiece on glasses to butch up is so funny to me
I thought slow rolling was when you take a long time to call their all-in even though you have the nuts, just as a way to torture them
Does anyone realise there was a possible straight on the board? Especially with the snap call, Baxter might well have doubted he is ahead!
‘I’ve got a pair of aces, and another pair of aces’ said Del Trotter in the 1990’s. That would really have set Phil off
1980s
How is that a slow roll, he raised every turn???
did it never occur to him that he might have an overpair when he raises preflop and bets standard sizing all three streets?
He for sure should have kings, but hellmuth was literally only beating a bluff, so If Baxter didn't Muck after, he should have known he was most likely going to lose the hand
I believe you mean "he for sure should have SAID have kings", but he doesn't have to do so. Saying two pairs, and then turning them over is enough. There's no slow roll there if you turn them up before your opponent does, especially if you're betting all 3 streets PLUS pre-flop.
How to overvalue top pair with shitty kicker... sign me up for that masterclass 😳
I like how he tells viffer "your gonna look foolish to other poker players" who looks foolish now?
"You look pretty ridiculous to all the poker players out there"
Well.....the sides of his head are purple....he looks ridiculous to all of us.
Phil is the only person I know that has himself convinced that he loses because he's a better player.
i guess helmuth is saying baxter knew phil didn’t have 3 3’s based on how he bet so he knew he had won the hand with the King high double pair and did the “slow roll” but it’s a bit of a stretch lol
Baxter knew what was coming, and he was trying to keep the fireworks down to a minimum by not being in Hellmuth's face about his win.
Phil sucked in that hand, easily could have been against trip 3's his rag 9's were nothing to call with.
This is just part of Phil's schtick to get other players off their game and do what he wants.
That isn't slow rolling.. He kept betting and Phil kept calling... I would've said I had Kings, two pair. Only different thing I would have done.
Either way Phil didn't read that he had a high pocket pair. Also if buddy had a nine, Phil's kicker wasn't great, being a nine. Buddy just played pocket kings on a low board. Good play.
U didn't get the point clearly. Pocket KK is the "nuts" there. The guy slowed the showdown action for no reason, he always had the best hand there. That was the slowroll.
@@raywestcoast98 How is KK the nuts? What about aces? Or a straight? Or a trips or a house? Or literally any of twenty hands possible with that board that beat pocket kings?
@@raywestcoast98 Um... please check your poker hands again. That was not the nuts. Look at Joshua's post. And that's not a slow-roll anyway. Only the caller can slow-roll and it only happens on the river. Hellmuth was the one calling on the river.
3:09 _"A world class player like yourself"_ was the funniest part of this clip. If only he knew how terrible Hellmuth is. 😂
he was definitely needling him 😂
You just said a player with 17 WSOP Bracelets was _"terrible."_
He's one of the greatest poker players of all time. Disliking him personally won't change that.
Hellmuth could've had trip 3s so that's probably why Baxter said "2 pair" because he didn't think they were good, I don't think this was a slow roll
Totally agree with Viffer. Hellmuth called so quick it was ridiculous. So glad Viffer spoke up.
Hellmuth is entertaining but he sound like an idiot when he mouths off like this
Phil, Phil, Phil...😂😂😂 you were beaten by the better hand, move on!
I think he got decent value from Phil for his KK.
He could have a 9 with a better kicker. Apparently Phil was upset because he thought “two pair” meant he had won the pot, but there was no reason for him to think that. Was he going to bet a two pair hand that Phil could beat for three streets?
If you check twice or more with that hand and that board that is NOT a slow roll 🤣
I called my quads 2 pair once and sent some psycho at the table through the roof.
Now that was in fact a slow-roll.
Casinos say the cards speak for themselves, but if you were in my house and did that and I was a neutral observer of the hand, I would have said you called two pair, that is what you have. If you argued it, I would have asked you to leave and never come back.
If you turn your cards over before the other guy, it’s NEVER a Slow Roll
Exactly.
It's one of those, unwritten "poker etiquette" rules. Baxter, at this time, wasn't a professional player, yet. You can CLEARLY see he is hesitant to turn his cards over, while having the winning hand. This is what made Phil upset and said that he slow rolled him.
What is Phil saying here? I'm really trying to understand why he thinks this is a slow roll... So if the guy didn't say anything, and then turned over 2 kings, that would have been ok? But because he said "2 pair" like half a second before he turned his kings over, then THAT'S a slow roll? Is there anyone who thinks that Phil has a legitimate argument here? I'm seriously trying to understand, cuz I don't want to slow roll anyone...
Turns his cards over awfully slow and says “two pair”. If you have overpairs here you don’t say two pair. You’d say kings. Phil literally said that. It is such a cunt thing to do to actually say two pair.
@@Born2Punch I disagree. "Kings" is not one of the 10 pokerhands.
High card
Pair
2 pair
Trips
Straight
Flush
Full house
Straight flush
Quads
Royale
So announcing 2 pair is correct. If Phil were to respond 1 pair both players know who wins. If Phil were to announce trips, both players still know who wins. But if both have 2 pair, it comes down to which cards exactly. That's when you announce Kings. And to be fair, I think he really put Phil on A3 so set of 3's or pocket in hand and set one of the other cards. The guy even said sorry. It was never the intention to slow roll. Clear as day. No offense
Phil telling someone that poker pros are laughing at them? Priceless ignorance xD
I love Viffer. Even though he bad beat me for $100k+ in a short handed cash game at bellagio around this time he’s still a legend. U the man Viff
Nothing could be more satisfying than seeing Phil Hellmuth get crushed! Phil Hellmuth: Bad Taste; Bad Manners; Foul Mouth.
Phil has the nerve to criticize the play when he recently called an all in with Q4 and got very lucky against 99. I remember at the WSOP he had a set of 8s on the turn but the guy turned the nut straight and Phil paid the guy off and then criticized the play. To me Phil always seems to get himself (being too clever and trying to trap too often) into trouble (allowing his opponent to make the nuts) and pays off the pot and doesn't like that he was beat, even though if it was the other way about he would do the same thing and would say its world class poker. You think if you have made millions from Poker you would calm down a bit lol
There is a poker etiquette in the pro circle about how to call the cards you have but Mike Baxter wasn't a pro at the time. He was a businessman just like Laliberte at this table. That's also why Baxter apologized quickly assuming that Phil was right to be angry. Hellmuth should have known there were non-pros at the table so he was out of line.
Plot twist:
Baxter really did slow-roll knowing he’d deliver yet more Hellmuth rage content
That was not a slow roll.
So many hands beat him.
What you are calling slow roll is old school mentality. Slow head.
It is why Hellmuth was great, but lags behind and is just a name.
I can usually see where Phil is coming from when he loses his shit, on this occasion though...
The worse Phil acts the more bad luck he runs into
He literally tilts himself.
Yeah, Hellmuth was totally wrong, being a bully, basically calling a guy an idiot because he played smarter than someone who is a legend in his own mind,then using his legacy to disrespect a guy who respectfully begged to differ.
I like the little hole cards shuffle he does just before mucking . He does it a lot,looks at the cards themselves with such distain .😂
Lol! How is that slow rolling???
I respect Phil less and less every time I see him being a prick for no reason. The man clearly thought he was crushed which is why he was hesitant to flip them over. You can tell by his body language he thought he must have played the hand terrible.
"A world class player like yourself Phil" lol! 😂
Someone needs to do the "Play the game" routine from "one flew over the cuckoos nest" with phil. That'd really get him going.
He played the hand fine, bet bet bet. Phils just angry with himself for being such a sucker
What man allows another man to talk to them like that. Phil would be in danger of getting slapped on camera.
"He didnt even know what hes doin"
Baxter in his mind: "I WON... thats what i did!"
he took 3 seconds to turn them over. phil didn't even say he had called or finished betting as baxter wasn't even looking
"HONEY...HE CALLED ME WITH A QUEEN AND A 10" !!!!!😆😆😆😆😆😆
What does slowroll mean?
Taking a long time to turn over your hand at showdown when you have a monster such as quads like you think you might be behind or tanking then calling when facing a shove with the nuts. Baxter did neither of those here.
PH was outta line in this one. P.s. i love PH but this was not so nice.