It really does, right?! And that one depicts Queen Marika, so Miranda must have been significant to have an equivalent item. Gah, what a shame she wasn't implemented more
I wonder sometimes, if Miranda was trying to create her own rival to the Erdtree. Maybe Miranda being "first of her breed" to these maneating flowers meant embedding herself in the Flower Crucible, hoping to grow an Erdtree or Erdtree equivalent, like how Miquella watered the Haligtree with his blood. That would also explain her prayer dealing holy damage. Now that I think about it, the Miranda flowers consuming human flesh isn't all that different from the Erdtree reabsorbing bodies through its roots. In real life, plants are almost only ever predatory when the soil lacks the nutrients they need to survive, so they get extra nutrition from predation. Maybe, then, they're maneating because the Erdtree is denying them their own supply of bodies to consume. Going off that, we can actually find Miranda sprouts growing out of piles of corpses in the Leyndell Sewers, some of them even hide in the bodies until we approach. I would wonder too if the different varieties of Miranda flower could be from them, for example, consuming lots of sorcerers in the Liurnia region, or rotten bodies in Caelid. These flowers are so interesting to me, lol
On the Shadow Tower fromsoftware games the towers/trees just work like that, even guided by the great will, they're parasitic in nature , need human sacrifice to work and to create an ecosystem and a peak new lifeform, is weird to found that same stuff years later on Elden Ring
Now that the DLC is out, this video has a lot more context! The miranda flowers are definitely part of the crucible, there's a crucible spell for them now! It's very cool lore. It's probably the reason why this item got cut: They made the ability into it's own spell, instead, to introduce in the DLC. The incantation reads: "Aspect of the Crucible discovered in the ancient ruins. Creates a miranda flower on one's chest before calling down a rain of light. Charging increases potency. In an age long past, before this land was enshrouded in shadow, the vitality of the Crucible flourished."
"i bet you aren't into flowers" me: _literally looked up and expanded my knowledge on the concept of grafting plants thanks to elden ring and be amazed by the benefits of the practice._ did you guys know you can graft a lemon tree branch to an apple tree stump to make it produce sweet lemons that grow faster than ordinary lemons? i swear its like magic, but real.
Plants are kinda crazy in general tbh. EVERY plant theoretically has the ability to regenerate its entire body and existence from even a single cell, under the right conditions. Plants are super cool
@mysticfox1663 not just trees though! You can give plenty of harvest plants different rootstock, what's real cool is you can get a tomato plant to use potatoes as it's rootstock allowing you to double plant if you don't have a lot of area.
Just be careful. They can be dangerous and in the USA its technically illegal for even cosmetic lenses to be sold without a prescription. And its not just regulatory BS, you need a prescription so you can get some that fit your eyes properly. If they don't fit right they can cause serious eye injuries. Don't mean to be a downer, just don't want people going blind over sketchy dollar store contact lenses.
There's a new spell in the DLC called "Aspects of the Crucible: Bloom" that has a flower sprout from the user so hopefully there'll be more Miranda content/lore in the DLC
There is the Sandbox Tree, whose seedpods explode and shoot seeds at somewhat dangerous speeds. And the puffball mushroom which explodes a cloud of spores when ripe. And several trees in the US that produce so much pollen that when a breeze hits, it creates a cloud of pollen that can be a little dangerous to people with severe allergies or asthma
I really appreciate the way you keep finding interesting things to discuss. As a content request / suggestion: it would be cool if you remade, updated, or made a sequel to some of your older videos. I love your older videos and feel like the Dung Eater video or Sellen video could be even better with your current research and production skills.
Thank you for saying so! And that's a really nice idea; I have often thought of doing a re-visit to characters, like I did with Rennala! I think it could be a really fun idea so thank you!
The theory I've run with is that with an M-name, Miranda may have been another of Marika's line, who tried to achieve divinity after the Shattering by becoming a flower. In a world so torn apart by horror, I can sympathize with just wanting to retire to a life as a beautiful flower. It's a shame Godfrey's Deathblight is working its way into the land itself. 😔
DLC Spoiler: FWIW, the unobtainable spells you talk about in this video are actually made obtainable in the DLC according to the previews, so maybe we'll get more lore on this
17:02 I never knew that Melinas mini erdtree could deflect projectiles! At least it looks that way, maybe Morgott just sucks. Either way, I am really hoping to see it as an incantation in the dlc.
Oh wow, I didn't notice this at all when playing! It looks like Morgott is actually aiming AT her tree, at the highest point. How strange! Now we know it can pull aggro, apparently. Haha, nice spot!
Finally getting around to watching this. Haha. Two things: 1. Loved the subtle shoutout to Smoughtown. 2. As a man, love flowers. I literally have half of my arm covered in them. Lol
Really hoping Miranda's Prayer, or even as an incantation, might be restored for the DLC Especially considering the existence of a "flower crucible" and my feeling the Crucible will play a larger role of the DLC
I may be in the 94.7 bracket, but my wife and I both watch your videos and love them. We think your approach to lore and cosplay is creative and fun and relaxing to watch and listen to. By the way, I feel like if the Miranda Flowers were based on Tiger Lilies, they would have been even cooler.
i wonder why its so skewed. Would be interesting to see splits for other lore youtubers, is it just the fromsoft lore stuff doesn't attract as many women. feels unlikely
1. Just beaten Malenia for the first time after well over a 100 tries 🫠 fair and square, even managed to pull off that gigachad point blank Waterfowl dance dodge once 2. New Chalice video dropped ... Marika's tits, 'tis a good day
11:12 something you would probably like to know is that blight is often a bacterial/viral infection. Blight in a historical context has been a symbol of both famine and opulence, (many different blights have caused mass starvation, where as there are a few instances of ornimental plants (typically flowers) infected with blights were sought after by collectors due to the change in appearance the effected plants would have (see: the tulip craze), there is also a rose roset disease. EDIT: I bring up viral infections in particular due to the captivating mosiac patterns found in tulip breaking virus, which look strikingly similar to the affect on the blighted miranda
Honestly, you seem to truly enjoy unraveling and discussing your ideas on Elden Ring. It's that joy and excitement that makes your videos so entertaining for me; and your voice is also very relaxing. Every time i watch one of your videos, it makes me want to dive into Elden Ring again to see if I can uncover something myself. xD
Woah I've never seen that guardian attack at 18:11 had no idea they could transform their weapon like that. I hope they add Miranda's Prayer in the DLC, maybe as an incantation instead? As a member of the 94%, I have to say, I love flowers! Great video as always :)
The flower maiden would have been an awesome addition even as a boss to fight. I get the feeling she would of been beautiful and probably one of those fights where you felt a little sad after killing her as her dying line would of shown humanity and regret
I'm a keen gardener and do like me flowers, though nothing like these of course. I remember the poison variety and may have seen the ones in Caelid, but only whilst legging it from something. I've not seen the others and think some exploration is on the cards.
This! I noticed this too! It's unclear because of the colours, but her head is tilted back showing you the bottom of her chin and her lips. Then the shape of her nose. It looks like either fabric or possibly petals are covering her head and eyes. Edit: She's actually in almost a twin pose to Marika with her arms outstretched to the sky. But where Marika's head dangles lifelessly Miranda is looking upwards in exhaultation.
I wonder if the Formless Serpents assassins were in league with the Perfumers, and under the general umbrella of Miranda related lore. They used deadly poison helix arrows with their Serpent bows. The M name makes me wonder if she was a daughter of Marika. The GRM names all have a significance, so such could be speculated about Queens Gilika, Maggie and Margot as well. There seems to be a trend with Marika pruning away her primordial children and casting them off, as one would prune a tree to perfect it.
Before the dlc droped there was also another connection to flowers and light magic. Halo scythe & Sacred ring of light launch light magic in a ring shape. Both of theese are found in rot swamp in Cealid. The place where the Godess of rot Bloomed into a Flower. Melicient and her sisters were seemingly born from a bloom in said swamp. People born from flowers. And same flowers use light a.k.a Sun magic
Honestly I have this gut feeling that Miranda is - or was, at least in some point during development - supposed to be a major figure. The item looking suspiciously similar to the Erdtree's favor talisman, the possibility of Erdtrees needing human sacrifice in order to grow, and so in a sense "feeding" off flesh... Not to mention Elden Ring's naming convention - Miranda and Marika sound so close for it to just be a coincidence. I know many are excited for that juicy GEQ lore, but my crazy hope is for us to get something on Miranda and the flower crucible... in part 'cause I just really want to fight a floral dryad-type boss, that'd be sick as heck. I wouldn't bet money on it happening, but fingers crossed! That way we'd get the spell too, it's so weird it got cut.
Honestly the truth by far one of the best lore channel i have ever seen i love how each video you do a cosplay and that you really seem to enjoy the big lore dive im here for it kwwp up the amazing work queen 🎉😊
I literally played Elden Ring earlier today to prepare a character for the dlc and been wondering about who Miranda is, while fighting the Miranda the blighted bloom boss in the tombsward cave.
I know that you cover more so of the unspoken topics of Elden Ring but i would really enjoy hearing you speak about many of the bosses as their lore are incredibly written and ambitious in their approach. Godfrey and Mohg specifically, Mohg because of his creepy / twisted nature, and Godfrey because of his brutish violence. I think you’d do them justice with your more soft spoken and deeply researched approach to topics. Thanks Chalice, keep doing what you’re doing!
Great taxonomy notes I actually want to say that mirandas remind me more of mexican pinguicula Still carnivorous, pinguicula have a rosette appearance similar to miranda, have similar digestive habits to sundews, and produce flowers near their crown that shoot up similar to those you see growing out of the miranda. Pings also have rather shallow roots and are known to "move" toward or away from light depending on their preferences by using new roots to help them crawl along soilbeds They can also go "dormant" or enter a succulency phase which will take form in shifting it's leaves from carnivorous to succulent, usually due to a dry season or lack of light
Coming back to this video, after the dlc is a trip. Really hope this topic gets revisited. Both with the crucible flower spell and Trina's interesting biology. Unsure if there's any connection, but nonetheless, it makes me think. Great video
"youll be fine as long as you dont eat them" The suic*** plant: "ya youll be fine, you can trust her, oh the spikes? For rubbin your back on goahead have a scratch!"
When I saw the Miranda Flowers during my first playthrough, I couldn’t help but think of the Spider Lily. Sure, they’re not the most visually similar, besides their spread out petals and long stems, and Spider Lilies can be seen more as representatives of rebirth or renewal, but I look at them both and they give me similar vibes, of being seemingly deadly flowers best left alone, or symbols of death. I really enjoyed listening to talk about flora as well Chalice. Flowers are a particular favorite of mine due to how many meanings and representations they depict in cultures and motifs, be it art or history. It’s so fascinating to think about the possibilities of cut content for this Miranda, and how much effort went into it based on context clues and descriptions. Cheers.
I work at a flowershop i deliver flowers to the somber folk after a loved one dies or in pure joy due to a recent promotion or an angry wife that scoffs at the thought of her mans apology with flowers haha. Flowers are beautiful flowers are a great piece of nature that begs to be picked and arranged for the joy of others. Most flowers at least the ones we sell arent even grown locally we are in California if you didnt know technically its a desert and most flowers besides poppy and similar types, most flowers dont like growing here. We can make do with drip watering it but extremely wasteful in water management unlike where we import them from which most come from Columbia at least the ones we sell. I love my job and im a straight guy with very average dude interests , just work with some cool 🌺🌹 and plants and bring joy and comfort in the form of an arrangements of flowers ❤ great video as always.
Your writing is absolutely lovely and your delivery and pacing is perfection! All your efforts and hard work, the details and time your put in your videos are appreciated so much!
Abrus Precatorius grows where I live, the seeds are a beautiful red color with a black dot, years ago people used them for crafting necklaces and bracelets, now after finding out theyre poisonous its prohibited to use them for crafting jewelry.
I'm eternally grateful to have recently discovered your channel. Your lore research is scholarly, your cosplays are endearing, and your voice lulls me into a sense of comfort and ease. Thank you!
I can see that you put soo mutch effort and worked hard i this video, and in the end it is amazing to watch, congratulations, not only the research you did on the existing flowers for comparasion but all the info and lore to dive into, you should be proud of this masterpiece of art!
Thanks for making this video on the Miranda flowers. It really seems like flowers were at one point going to be as poinent as trees to the world. Malenia's rot power manifests as a flower and Gowry refers to her "daughters" as buds. When it comes to the different types of Miranda flowers I think it has more to do with their diet. They are man eating flowers, so the flowers in Liurnia likely consumed mages, the stones being parts of the crown that weren't digested. The frenzied flower's likely meals would all be afflicted by Frenzy in the village. Which gives me a crazy theory "Miranda the Blighted Bloom" I think the Omen Killer fed an Omen to the plant causing its current state.
I remember drawing the effigy, I loved this design, I found it so beautiful, and as a guy, I LOVE flowers, especially supernatural flowers, so I was really bummed that this effigy wasn’t in the game, cause I feel Miranda flowers and perfumers had some interesting things that could’ve been dope.
We have a lot of examples of a creatures diet having a lot to do with their affinities. Such as the glintstone dragons, who gained their magic breath from devouring sorcerer's. I think the Miranda flowers absorb their powers in a similar way. Feasting on living things that are afflicted or associated with said element
This is a really cool video, thank you! The Mirandas are so interesting, its good to know that there was more behind them that we just haven't seen in the base game.
Only just found your channel. Lore, a soothing voice, cosplay, and a pretty face too. I doubt we'll be getting Vaati to do any Melina cosplays any time soon, so I guess I'll have to sub here.
what i find most fascinating (and honestly most beautiful) about Elden Ring lore, is the fact that according to Miyazaki, Elden Ring + the DLC are only "a piece" of the full story and world perhaps they cut content for use in sequels, or perhaps they cut content because they're not making sequels only FromSoft has the full story of this world, and i think it's brilliant that they've kept the bulk of it entirely hidden
Lord, how many times have I seen advertisements for this browser, *slipface*, but when I saw and heard all this 0:49 you instantly sold it to me ) damn it... and thanks... As always, you look great by the way...
@@BusinessSkrub I wonder who or what you were yapping about though. I didn't see him throw money at miss chalice for any reason so I don't think it's related to mine or his comment, if I have to guess it's prolly your imaginary friend called reddit but I won't assume :) *closes door*
Eyyyy one of the 4.4% 😂 your voice is so soothing, and right now when I have a concussion your voice is especially calming and nice to listen to. Thank you ❤😊
If you look closely at the effigy you can tell that it's not really headless, it depicts the form of a humanoid woman with her head cast back, as if looking up into the sky; what you see there is her neck, running all the way up to her chin line, then her mouth, and then the faint hint of her nose. This could be suggested as a pose of prayer, looking up to the sky with arms (not really present here) outstretched consulting a higher power. It would kind of fall in line with the Miranda's power to call down holy beams from the sky. The main body or perceived "head" of the flower rising up into the air, like the effigy's face cast to the sky, and in response that power sending down beams of light.
Womderful video as always! If you were womdering about a future lore topic, I would request The Shaded Castle and Elemer the Briar. The statues, the painting of Melenia, theres a lot going on there, and I don't know how to piece the information together the way you do. Keep doing you, these videos are all great. Thank you.
I just wanted to say I just discovered your content and I've been loving it so far! Your voice is so nice to listen to as well, it makes learning about lore so relaxing.
Theres also 2 frenzied miranda flowers in Siofra river interestingly. Frenzied miranda flowers also attack you furiosly if you set them on fire instead of being stagered.
Isn't it interesting that the giant Miranda flower can cast incantation almost the same like Miquella's light incantation, and it gets more interesting when we know the fact that Miquella is trying to make his own Erdtree, using his blood to grow the Haligtree, and the only one related to a flower, Miquella's Lily, and then has a strong relationship with another flower St. Trina... Malenia too if you want to count her Scarlet Bloom
Some trees like the Brugmansia when the flower is at its peak release a fragrance that can be toxic if inhaled when standing under the tree. The Oleander flower is similar to this and the sweet fragrant can be deadly. Be careful when smelling flowers, make sure to identify them first.
Just some things, that came to mind, after watching the video: What if all the children of Golden Lineage receive a calling from a powerful entity or an outer god? - Malenia receives a calling from the Goddess of Rot. - Morgott receives a calling from Goddess of Blood. - Miquella receives a calling from an entity connected to sleep, at least partially becoming St. Trina. - Ranni and Radahn are both connected to the Moon and Stars, making them both very adapt at using Sorcery/Gravity Magic. In case of Ranni, she might not have agreed to what was offered to her and chose to study under the snow witch, attuning herself to Snow and Ice-Sorceries instead. The case of Morgoth hints at the possibilty, that there might be a choice involved as well, because he chose to listen to her calling, possibly leaving behind the calling, which was offered to him in the first place. And Melina is ... interesting, to say the least. Maybe she was chosen to be a Flower Maiden, which is hinted at by the unique miracles, she is able to perform in the fight against Margit, where you can summon her. What if this callling wasn´t in line with what Marika wanted her to be, because of connections to the (flower)crucible? If I remember correctly, Melina herself told us(the player), that her purpose was given to her by Marika, which she is continously searching for. My assumption is, that Melina didn´t receive a calling as a Finger Maiden. She actually tells us, that she is `no fingermaiden´ and is only acting the part. Why would she do that? Does Melina only do so, because Marika told her to take on the role of fingermaiden?
With this context, the idea of the crucible becomes much clearer. If there is a crucible for animals/beasts and a crucible for plants, it suddenly looks a lot like the real world subdivision of life into "Kingdoms" where there is Animalia (i.e humans and all other animals) and Plantea, alongside Fungi and Protista (I honestly don't know enough about biology to understand what Protista are.) There's more than just those four, but that's a whole can of worms. Though in very old, historic categorizations there's only Animalia and Plantea (which includes Fungi in this case.) This might have been the inspiration for Elden Ring's crucible, since it covers 99% of creatures in the game, maybe excluding magical constructs and space slugs.
I believe all the flowers on the Altus plateau except the shaded castle have that model same as the blighted bloom, and unique to them is that they inflict deadly poison. Perhaps they are a type cultivated by perfumers to get more deadly poisons.
I have no shame in admitting that Flowers and Perfooms are the way to go with my playthrough, I love the regular Pink Miranda flowers the most as well. :3 (Also loving nice flowers in real life.) Clicked on this the moment I spotted it, I wish we got to keep some of the removed items, this included. One can hope in the DLC that these will become available. Love the commentary by the way, very informative and relaxing at the same time.
I like flowers, I specifically like roses because they are so fitting as an allegory for love intense yet beautiful and delicate. It is beautiful but hurts sometimes but it's worth it.
In lower Leyndell church, I think the people being mistreated used to worship something that resembles a flower that never stops blooming. The church has it's carpet moved to the side like someone knew that's where grace was, but it implies that the church was being used for a different purpose, if the carpet has to be moved for something like grace to be hiding underneath. The windows are all metal engravings of flowers blooming from a central flower, and can be seen in some Nox areas. Iv'e seen two competing theories as to why they seal off their windows, but I'd argue the buildings original inhabitants culture normally keep light from entering their houses, and also like to wear cloth over their heads and faces for a similar reason. The Nox and the perfumers know about flowers with specific growing needs, like growing in the dark. But back at the church you can see more, there is a statue of someone holding a golden flower, with two vines growing up the statue. Those flower vines are the same vines from the windows, now being grown into a single golden flower, and the other vines having trouble growing, focusing on climbing like vines rather then flowering. The same golden flower can be seen above the church being held by someone else, now a female, holding a spear made out of the growing gold flower, now plucked from the ground and being raised at the sky. The tip of the spear looks like the golden flower has bloomed a blade of light upwards, and the statue still has the other vines from the original entity trying to climb up it. It reminds me of an item description in game thats something like, "oh clinging creature, a king relinquishes not the hand". It seems out of context, but if the power the gods have came from this constantly blooming and adaptive vine, it could provide insight to why the crucible has multiple phases, if there is what it needs to bloom flowers it will, but if it needs to crawl up someone stealing it's power, it wont flower, it will keep crawling towards what is missing from it. The erdtree has giant vines being held back by the throne area, and a bunch of vines invading the city. lots of destruction in both Leyndell and in the nameless eternal city, are from those root looking vines toppling things over and destroying walls. They are also specifically what you burn to enter the erdtree, the church got taken over by erdtree faithful that used the crucible for their erdtree, and Miranda might have been the god of that culture. The erdtree's blessing was supposed to be a culmination of everything the perfumers learned from making a flower stay in a fertile form, which is the only time miranda pollon forms, very similar to the blessings that pool on the lower arch of the Elden Ring. I think the dragons had a god and an age, but something destroyed their "sacred tree" which regrew into the flower crucible, not being bound by time and death now present in the world, allowed the crucible to bloom, but someone or something noticed one flower was golden and the central flower, and grew only that one to somehow become the erdtree
In the description of the perfumers talisman, I'm guessing "or obscured by shadows inside of caves" wasn't just put there to let us know caves are dark and shadowy.
Always wondered what “Miranda” was referring to. Maybe we’ll get something in the DLC? I’m hoping so since we are likely to learn something about the Crucible in the Shadowlands. Would love to see a video on Alexander someday too! Another one of those classic Souls questlines that starts so hearty and ends so sad.
Been using Opera GX since its release, probably my fave browser. I can understand why they removed it, it would make people wonder what other forms of crucible there are. if there is a flower one then perhaps there is a fauna one? dedicated for animals or wildlife in general. but the description of the crucible suggest its where all things began or something similar thus the ''primordial soup'' where all things crawled out of. still its also a shame would of been interesting to stumble upon a skyrim style spriggan with petals on her shoulders or something. Thanks for the video!
Cool, I've been curious after Zullies video about Rune Bears seemingly having connections to Dragons, and that in the files they are named RuneBear, and the Miranda flower is named RuneFlower. Reminds me of Miquella's Haligtree....
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How are your eye color's red? Im just curious because seen them like that before. Look cool though
Umm, Miss Chalo, I'm afraid of flowers 😢
Where do you get your contacts? I'd love to try some out 😊
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I actually appreciate this vid, don't see a lot of ppl talk about the miranda flowers despite being littered throughout the lands between
Thank you for thinking so! I'm often pleasantly surprised by how much of a rabbit hole i can jump down when exploring a topic like this!
@@miss_chaliceit really just shows how full of lore every nook of the world is!
The item looks vaguely like the erdtree favor talisman
It really does, right?! And that one depicts Queen Marika, so Miranda must have been significant to have an equivalent item. Gah, what a shame she wasn't implemented more
It's almost as if plants are reaching to the sky for something. Wild.
I wonder sometimes, if Miranda was trying to create her own rival to the Erdtree. Maybe Miranda being "first of her breed" to these maneating flowers meant embedding herself in the Flower Crucible, hoping to grow an Erdtree or Erdtree equivalent, like how Miquella watered the Haligtree with his blood. That would also explain her prayer dealing holy damage.
Now that I think about it, the Miranda flowers consuming human flesh isn't all that different from the Erdtree reabsorbing bodies through its roots. In real life, plants are almost only ever predatory when the soil lacks the nutrients they need to survive, so they get extra nutrition from predation. Maybe, then, they're maneating because the Erdtree is denying them their own supply of bodies to consume.
Going off that, we can actually find Miranda sprouts growing out of piles of corpses in the Leyndell Sewers, some of them even hide in the bodies until we approach. I would wonder too if the different varieties of Miranda flower could be from them, for example, consuming lots of sorcerers in the Liurnia region, or rotten bodies in Caelid.
These flowers are so interesting to me, lol
On the Shadow Tower fromsoftware games the towers/trees just work like that, even guided by the great will, they're parasitic in nature , need human sacrifice to work and to create an ecosystem and a peak new lifeform, is weird to found that same stuff years later on Elden Ring
this is really well put and thoughtful :) thank you for sharing your interpretations!
Now that the DLC is out, this video has a lot more context! The miranda flowers are definitely part of the crucible, there's a crucible spell for them now! It's very cool lore. It's probably the reason why this item got cut: They made the ability into it's own spell, instead, to introduce in the DLC. The incantation reads: "Aspect of the Crucible discovered in the ancient ruins. Creates a miranda flower on one's chest before calling down a rain of light. Charging increases potency. In an age long past, before this land was enshrouded in shadow, the vitality of the Crucible flourished."
The red eye contacts are really hypnotizing.
thank you! i hope they didn't influence you to do anything nefarious :O
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@@miss_chalice Nah just the usual stuff going to the sewers and killing a few omen 🫣
If Miranda flowers were real, we all know that at least some of you would try to smoke it.
oh, most definitely. So many great discoveries were made by putting things into our bodies one way or another (behave.)
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"i bet you aren't into flowers"
me: _literally looked up and expanded my knowledge on the concept of grafting plants thanks to elden ring and be amazed by the benefits of the practice._
did you guys know you can graft a lemon tree branch to an apple tree stump to make it produce sweet lemons that grow faster than ordinary lemons?
i swear its like magic, but real.
Plants are kinda crazy in general tbh. EVERY plant theoretically has the ability to regenerate its entire body and existence from even a single cell, under the right conditions. Plants are super cool
Grafting fruit trees is cool! One of my favorite things!
Hehe I used to work at a citrus nursery where they made their own brand of trees using grafting. It was very cool
@mysticfox1663 not just trees though! You can give plenty of harvest plants different rootstock, what's real cool is you can get a tomato plant to use potatoes as it's rootstock allowing you to double plant if you don't have a lot of area.
Now I'm even more interested in plants wtf
4.4% represent! 😁❤ love your videos!
i appreciate you so much! thank you!!
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I really appreciate all of you who do this!
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@@aspllawhy creep? Some of us just love her content and silky smooth voice as she narrates. Maybe check yourself for thinking this?🤔
5:01 its a wonder why games don't look to flora for more inspiration for deadly mobs. Cuz nature can be terrifying.
so true!! crazy to think some of these living things exist in our real world
Beautiful eyes. Though I think I’d avoid them in a dark alley.
👁👄👁 thank you
Just be careful. They can be dangerous and in the USA its technically illegal for even cosmetic lenses to be sold without a prescription. And its not just regulatory BS, you need a prescription so you can get some that fit your eyes properly. If they don't fit right they can cause serious eye injuries.
Don't mean to be a downer, just don't want people going blind over sketchy dollar store contact lenses.
There's a new spell in the DLC called "Aspects of the Crucible: Bloom" that has a flower sprout from the user so hopefully there'll be more Miranda content/lore in the DLC
There is the Sandbox Tree, whose seedpods explode and shoot seeds at somewhat dangerous speeds.
And the puffball mushroom which explodes a cloud of spores when ripe.
And several trees in the US that produce so much pollen that when a breeze hits, it creates a cloud of pollen that can be a little dangerous to people with severe allergies or asthma
I really appreciate the way you keep finding interesting things to discuss. As a content request / suggestion: it would be cool if you remade, updated, or made a sequel to some of your older videos. I love your older videos and feel like the Dung Eater video or Sellen video could be even better with your current research and production skills.
Thank you for saying so! And that's a really nice idea; I have often thought of doing a re-visit to characters, like I did with Rennala! I think it could be a really fun idea so thank you!
I'm faded off the finest Miranda
The theory I've run with is that with an M-name, Miranda may have been another of Marika's line, who tried to achieve divinity after the Shattering by becoming a flower.
In a world so torn apart by horror, I can sympathize with just wanting to retire to a life as a beautiful flower. It's a shame Godfrey's Deathblight is working its way into the land itself. 😔
DLC Spoiler: FWIW, the unobtainable spells you talk about in this video are actually made obtainable in the DLC according to the previews, so maybe we'll get more lore on this
I have avoided spoilers but couldnt resist reading this comment. This makes me even more hyped!
17:02
I never knew that Melinas mini erdtree could deflect projectiles!
At least it looks that way, maybe Morgott just sucks.
Either way, I am really hoping to see it as an incantation in the dlc.
Oh wow, I didn't notice this at all when playing! It looks like Morgott is actually aiming AT her tree, at the highest point. How strange! Now we know it can pull aggro, apparently. Haha, nice spot!
Might've been an error with morgott attacking melina and then realizing she died already
Seeing as we have a madness variant, I wonder if we will get a flower that causes sleep build-up.
Finally getting around to watching this. Haha.
Two things:
1. Loved the subtle shoutout to Smoughtown.
2. As a man, love flowers. I literally have half of my arm covered in them. Lol
Lucky timing, gotta make some breakfast and needed something to listen to.
good morning to you and please have a nice breakfast!
I would also like to bring up : the raffelsia flower is a parasitic corpse plant
Really hoping Miranda's Prayer, or even as an incantation, might be restored for the DLC
Especially considering the existence of a "flower crucible" and my feeling the Crucible will play a larger role of the DLC
The golden thorns like ability we see in the Shadow of the Erdtree could be just that.
Miquella’s incantation we get is basically a souped up version of it. We also get the crucible aspect of plant.
@@gudmundur-heimisson yeah and the actual crucible bloom incant is garbage imo
Wow! The last time I watched one of your videos you had like 30K followers… you’re killing it! Great to see
Thank you so much! And it's nice to have you back on my channel!
I am a guy, AND I'm SO TIRED OF PEOPLE THINKING US MEN DON'T LIKE FLOWERS!!!!!
Some are nice I suppose.
I'm tired for other reasons. I wish I was you.
My favorite is the violet.
Flowers are alright
i fw flowers honestly
I may be in the 94.7 bracket, but my wife and I both watch your videos and love them. We think your approach to lore and cosplay is creative and fun and relaxing to watch and listen to.
By the way, I feel like if the Miranda Flowers were based on Tiger Lilies, they would have been even cooler.
i wonder why its so skewed. Would be interesting to see splits for other lore youtubers, is it just the fromsoft lore stuff doesn't attract as many women. feels unlikely
@@HoneyDoll894 beatiful, young woman talks with a soothing voice, about interesting topics about a masterful game. Dunno why most viewers are male...
Falling asleep to smoughtowns +30 lore recap is so real
1. Just beaten Malenia for the first time after well over a 100 tries 🫠 fair and square, even managed to pull off that gigachad point blank Waterfowl dance dodge once
2. New Chalice video dropped
... Marika's tits, 'tis a good day
11:12 something you would probably like to know is that blight is often a bacterial/viral infection. Blight in a historical context has been a symbol of both famine and opulence, (many different blights have caused mass starvation, where as there are a few instances of ornimental plants (typically flowers) infected with blights were sought after by collectors due to the change in appearance the effected plants would have (see: the tulip craze), there is also a rose roset disease.
EDIT: I bring up viral infections in particular due to the captivating mosiac patterns found in tulip breaking virus, which look strikingly similar to the affect on the blighted miranda
ALSO MEN LOVE FLOWERS
0:27 she’s onto us, lads
i lowkey thought she was gonna say fent
Hopefully one day you'll come into contact with a woman in real life. It's pretty cool!
@jarlwhiterun7478 let us know if you ever do than
@@jarlwhiterun7478What are you getting offended by? No wait, what are you even talking about? Randomly calling strangers maidenless, rude!
@@jarlwhiterun7478 go back to tending to your broken family Jarl.
Honestly, you seem to truly enjoy unraveling and discussing your ideas on Elden Ring. It's that joy and excitement that makes your videos so entertaining for me; and your voice is also very relaxing. Every time i watch one of your videos, it makes me want to dive into Elden Ring again to see if I can uncover something myself. xD
I love the red eye color! It looks so good on you
Woah I've never seen that guardian attack at 18:11 had no idea they could transform their weapon like that.
I hope they add Miranda's Prayer in the DLC, maybe as an incantation instead?
As a member of the 94%, I have to say, I love flowers! Great video as always :)
The flower maiden would have been an awesome addition even as a boss to fight. I get the feeling she would of been beautiful and probably one of those fights where you felt a little sad after killing her as her dying line would of shown humanity and regret
I'm a keen gardener and do like me flowers, though nothing like these of course.
I remember the poison variety and may have seen the ones in Caelid, but only whilst legging it from something. I've not seen the others and think some exploration is on the cards.
The idol looks like the head is staring up at the sky, arms out in prayer. You can slightly see mirandas nose.
This! I noticed this too! It's unclear because of the colours, but her head is tilted back showing you the bottom of her chin and her lips. Then the shape of her nose. It looks like either fabric or possibly petals are covering her head and eyes.
Edit: She's actually in almost a twin pose to Marika with her arms outstretched to the sky. But where Marika's head dangles lifelessly Miranda is looking upwards in exhaultation.
I wonder if the Formless Serpents assassins were in league with the Perfumers, and under the general umbrella of Miranda related lore. They used deadly poison helix arrows with their Serpent bows. The M name makes me wonder if she was a daughter of Marika. The GRM names all have a significance, so such could be speculated about Queens Gilika, Maggie and Margot as well. There seems to be a trend with Marika pruning away her primordial children and casting them off, as one would prune a tree to perfect it.
Before the dlc droped there was also another connection to flowers and light magic.
Halo scythe & Sacred ring of light launch light magic in a ring shape.
Both of theese are found in rot swamp in Cealid.
The place where the Godess of rot Bloomed into a Flower.
Melicient and her sisters were seemingly born from a bloom in said swamp.
People born from flowers.
And same flowers use light a.k.a Sun magic
I figured it sprayed spores like a puffball mushroom. I did tend to see the mushroom monsters coexisting with flower monsters in certain areas.
Honestly I have this gut feeling that Miranda is - or was, at least in some point during development - supposed to be a major figure. The item looking suspiciously similar to the Erdtree's favor talisman, the possibility of Erdtrees needing human sacrifice in order to grow, and so in a sense "feeding" off flesh... Not to mention Elden Ring's naming convention - Miranda and Marika sound so close for it to just be a coincidence.
I know many are excited for that juicy GEQ lore, but my crazy hope is for us to get something on Miranda and the flower crucible... in part 'cause I just really want to fight a floral dryad-type boss, that'd be sick as heck. I wouldn't bet money on it happening, but fingers crossed! That way we'd get the spell too, it's so weird it got cut.
Honestly the truth by far one of the best lore channel i have ever seen i love how each video you do a cosplay and that you really seem to enjoy the big lore dive im here for it kwwp up the amazing work queen 🎉😊
I literally played Elden Ring earlier today to prepare a character for the dlc and been wondering about who Miranda is, while fighting the Miranda the blighted bloom boss in the tombsward cave.
Once again people think I don't like flowers just because I'm a man 😢
I believe you do bro.
*sad twerking*
I know that you cover more so of the unspoken topics of Elden Ring but i would really enjoy hearing you speak about many of the bosses as their lore are incredibly written and ambitious in their approach. Godfrey and Mohg specifically, Mohg because of his creepy / twisted nature, and Godfrey because of his brutish violence. I think you’d do them justice with your more soft spoken and deeply researched approach to topics. Thanks Chalice, keep doing what you’re doing!
Nice catch with Melina's spell, never woulda caught that!
Great taxonomy notes
I actually want to say that mirandas remind me more of mexican pinguicula
Still carnivorous, pinguicula have a rosette appearance similar to miranda, have similar digestive habits to sundews, and produce flowers near their crown that shoot up similar to those you see growing out of the miranda.
Pings also have rather shallow roots and are known to "move" toward or away from light depending on their preferences by using new roots to help them crawl along soilbeds
They can also go "dormant" or enter a succulency phase which will take form in shifting it's leaves from carnivorous to succulent, usually due to a dry season or lack of light
Coming back to this video, after the dlc is a trip. Really hope this topic gets revisited. Both with the crucible flower spell and Trina's interesting biology. Unsure if there's any connection, but nonetheless, it makes me think.
Great video
"youll be fine as long as you dont eat them"
The suic*** plant: "ya youll be fine, you can trust her, oh the spikes? For rubbin your back on goahead have a scratch!"
When I saw the Miranda Flowers during my first playthrough, I couldn’t help but think of the Spider Lily. Sure, they’re not the most visually similar, besides their spread out petals and long stems, and Spider Lilies can be seen more as representatives of rebirth or renewal, but I look at them both and they give me similar vibes, of being seemingly deadly flowers best left alone, or symbols of death.
I really enjoyed listening to talk about flora as well Chalice. Flowers are a particular favorite of mine due to how many meanings and representations they depict in cultures and motifs, be it art or history. It’s so fascinating to think about the possibilities of cut content for this Miranda, and how much effort went into it based on context clues and descriptions. Cheers.
As a male artist (and level 60 unemployed person), i'm deeply interested in flowers
Metoo
I work at a flowershop i deliver flowers to the somber folk after a loved one dies or in pure joy due to a recent promotion or an angry wife that scoffs at the thought of her mans apology with flowers haha. Flowers are beautiful flowers are a great piece of nature that begs to be picked and arranged for the joy of others. Most flowers at least the ones we sell arent even grown locally we are in California if you didnt know technically its a desert and most flowers besides poppy and similar types, most flowers dont like growing here. We can make do with drip watering it but extremely wasteful in water management unlike where we import them from which most come from Columbia at least the ones we sell. I love my job and im a straight guy with very average dude interests , just work with some cool 🌺🌹 and plants and bring joy and comfort in the form of an arrangements of flowers ❤ great video as always.
This is actually my favorite video you have done. Thank you for covering such an interesting topic that I've not seen touched on anywhere.
Your writing is absolutely lovely and your delivery and pacing is perfection!
All your efforts and hard work, the details and time your put in your videos are appreciated so much!
Abrus Precatorius grows where I live, the seeds are a beautiful red color with a black dot, years ago people used them for crafting necklaces and bracelets, now after finding out theyre poisonous its prohibited to use them for crafting jewelry.
Never been here so early, love your content miss chalice, hope your having a good day
welcome in! and thank you! i wish the same to you as well
I'm eternally grateful to have recently discovered your channel. Your lore research is scholarly, your cosplays are endearing, and your voice lulls me into a sense of comfort and ease. Thank you!
I can see that you put soo mutch effort and worked hard i this video, and in the end it is amazing to watch, congratulations, not only the research you did on the existing flowers for comparasion but all the info and lore to dive into, you should be proud of this masterpiece of art!
Thanks for making this video on the Miranda flowers. It really seems like flowers were at one point going to be as poinent as trees to the world. Malenia's rot power manifests as a flower and Gowry refers to her "daughters" as buds.
When it comes to the different types of Miranda flowers I think it has more to do with their diet. They are man eating flowers, so the flowers in Liurnia likely consumed mages, the stones being parts of the crown that weren't digested. The frenzied flower's likely meals would all be afflicted by Frenzy in the village. Which gives me a crazy theory "Miranda the Blighted Bloom" I think the Omen Killer fed an Omen to the plant causing its current state.
I remember drawing the effigy, I loved this design, I found it so beautiful, and as a guy, I LOVE flowers, especially supernatural flowers, so I was really bummed that this effigy wasn’t in the game, cause I feel Miranda flowers and perfumers had some interesting things that could’ve been dope.
We have a lot of examples of a creatures diet having a lot to do with their affinities. Such as the glintstone dragons, who gained their magic breath from devouring sorcerer's. I think the Miranda flowers absorb their powers in a similar way. Feasting on living things that are afflicted or associated with said element
With the dlc the new crucible aspect: bloom use the move from the miranda flowers!
This is a really cool video, thank you! The Mirandas are so interesting, its good to know that there was more behind them that we just haven't seen in the base game.
Only just found your channel.
Lore, a soothing voice, cosplay, and a pretty face too.
I doubt we'll be getting Vaati to do any Melina cosplays any time soon, so I guess I'll have to sub here.
what i find most fascinating (and honestly most beautiful) about Elden Ring lore, is the fact that according to Miyazaki, Elden Ring + the DLC are only "a piece" of the full story and world
perhaps they cut content for use in sequels, or perhaps they cut content because they're not making sequels
only FromSoft has the full story of this world, and i think it's brilliant that they've kept the bulk of it entirely hidden
I'm so glad you're still making new content. 🙏
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As always, you look great by the way...
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Kinda sad to see this removed, thank you for the time you spent researching and sharing this with all of us.
Eyyyy one of the 4.4% 😂
your voice is so soothing, and right now when I have a concussion your voice is especially calming and nice to listen to. Thank you ❤😊
Ive been BEGGGING someone to make a video about Miranda! Such an interesting character that could have serious lore implications!
Your work is much appreciated. Discovering all of this lore is like finding untold ancient history.
If you look closely at the effigy you can tell that it's not really headless, it depicts the form of a humanoid woman with her head cast back, as if looking up into the sky; what you see there is her neck, running all the way up to her chin line, then her mouth, and then the faint hint of her nose. This could be suggested as a pose of prayer, looking up to the sky with arms (not really present here) outstretched consulting a higher power. It would kind of fall in line with the Miranda's power to call down holy beams from the sky. The main body or perceived "head" of the flower rising up into the air, like the effigy's face cast to the sky, and in response that power sending down beams of light.
i believe that those who refuse the beautifulness of a flower, are insecure of themselves. enjoying the charm of a flower is simply natural
Womderful video as always! If you were womdering about a future lore topic, I would request The Shaded Castle and Elemer the Briar. The statues, the painting of Melenia, theres a lot going on there, and I don't know how to piece the information together the way you do. Keep doing you, these videos are all great. Thank you.
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I just wanted to say I just discovered your content and I've been loving it so far! Your voice is so nice to listen to as well, it makes learning about lore so relaxing.
Theres also 2 frenzied miranda flowers in Siofra river interestingly. Frenzied miranda flowers also attack you furiosly if you set them on fire instead of being stagered.
Isn't it interesting that the giant Miranda flower can cast incantation almost the same like Miquella's light incantation, and it gets more interesting when we know the fact that Miquella is trying to make his own Erdtree, using his blood to grow the Haligtree, and the only one related to a flower, Miquella's Lily, and then has a strong relationship with another flower St. Trina... Malenia too if you want to count her Scarlet Bloom
Some trees like the Brugmansia when the flower is at its peak release a fragrance that can be toxic if inhaled when standing under the tree. The Oleander flower is similar to this and the sweet fragrant can be deadly. Be careful when smelling flowers, make sure to identify them first.
Just some things, that came to mind, after watching the video:
What if all the children of Golden Lineage receive a calling from a powerful entity or an outer god?
- Malenia receives a calling from the Goddess of Rot.
- Morgott receives a calling from Goddess of Blood.
- Miquella receives a calling from an entity connected to sleep, at least partially becoming St. Trina.
- Ranni and Radahn are both connected to the Moon and Stars, making them both very adapt at using Sorcery/Gravity Magic.
In case of Ranni, she might not have agreed to what was offered to her and chose to study under the snow witch, attuning herself to Snow and Ice-Sorceries instead.
The case of Morgoth hints at the possibilty, that there might be a choice involved as well, because he chose to listen to her calling, possibly leaving behind the calling, which was offered to him in the first place.
And Melina is ... interesting, to say the least. Maybe she was chosen to be a Flower Maiden, which is hinted at by the unique miracles, she is able to perform in the fight against Margit, where you can summon her.
What if this callling wasn´t in line with what Marika wanted her to be, because of connections to the (flower)crucible?
If I remember correctly, Melina herself told us(the player), that her purpose was given to her by Marika, which she is continously searching for.
My assumption is, that Melina didn´t receive a calling as a Finger Maiden. She actually tells us, that she is `no fingermaiden´ and is only acting the part.
Why would she do that? Does Melina only do so, because Marika told her to take on the role of fingermaiden?
With this context, the idea of the crucible becomes much clearer. If there is a crucible for animals/beasts and a crucible for plants, it suddenly looks a lot like the real world subdivision of life into "Kingdoms" where there is Animalia (i.e humans and all other animals) and Plantea, alongside Fungi and Protista (I honestly don't know enough about biology to understand what Protista are.) There's more than just those four, but that's a whole can of worms. Though in very old, historic categorizations there's only Animalia and Plantea (which includes Fungi in this case.) This might have been the inspiration for Elden Ring's crucible, since it covers 99% of creatures in the game, maybe excluding magical constructs and space slugs.
I believe all the flowers on the Altus plateau except the shaded castle have that model same as the blighted bloom, and unique to them is that they inflict deadly poison. Perhaps they are a type cultivated by perfumers to get more deadly poisons.
I absolutely love plants and trees. Elden Ring is just the gift that always gives
Sweet! Flower vid, time to learn about those ER flowers
Cool video! There's a surprising amount of lore with these flowers and the perfumers.
I have no shame in admitting that Flowers and Perfooms are the way to go with my playthrough, I love the regular Pink Miranda flowers the most as well. :3 (Also loving nice flowers in real life.)
Clicked on this the moment I spotted it, I wish we got to keep some of the removed items, this included.
One can hope in the DLC that these will become available.
Love the commentary by the way, very informative and relaxing at the same time.
I could listen to you talk about anything and I’ll hang on your every word lol
I like flowers, I specifically like roses because they are so fitting as an allegory for love intense yet beautiful and delicate. It is beautiful but hurts sometimes but it's worth it.
These flowers have attributes of fungi as well: spore clouds, often found in damp places with no sunlight...
I like that the stamen look Like tiny erdtree florets.
In lower Leyndell church, I think the people being mistreated used to worship something that resembles a flower that never stops blooming. The church has it's carpet moved to the side like someone knew that's where grace was, but it implies that the church was being used for a different purpose, if the carpet has to be moved for something like grace to be hiding underneath. The windows are all metal engravings of flowers blooming from a central flower, and can be seen in some Nox areas. Iv'e seen two competing theories as to why they seal off their windows, but I'd argue the buildings original inhabitants culture normally keep light from entering their houses, and also like to wear cloth over their heads and faces for a similar reason. The Nox and the perfumers know about flowers with specific growing needs, like growing in the dark.
But back at the church you can see more, there is a statue of someone holding a golden flower, with two vines growing up the statue. Those flower vines are the same vines from the windows, now being grown into a single golden flower, and the other vines having trouble growing, focusing on climbing like vines rather then flowering. The same golden flower can be seen above the church being held by someone else, now a female, holding a spear made out of the growing gold flower, now plucked from the ground and being raised at the sky. The tip of the spear looks like the golden flower has bloomed a blade of light upwards, and the statue still has the other vines from the original entity trying to climb up it. It reminds me of an item description in game thats something like, "oh clinging creature, a king relinquishes not the hand". It seems out of context, but if the power the gods have came from this constantly blooming and adaptive vine, it could provide insight to why the crucible has multiple phases, if there is what it needs to bloom flowers it will, but if it needs to crawl up someone stealing it's power, it wont flower, it will keep crawling towards what is missing from it. The erdtree has giant vines being held back by the throne area, and a bunch of vines invading the city. lots of destruction in both Leyndell and in the nameless eternal city, are from those root looking vines toppling things over and destroying walls. They are also specifically what you burn to enter the erdtree, the church got taken over by erdtree faithful that used the crucible for their erdtree, and Miranda might have been the god of that culture. The erdtree's blessing was supposed to be a culmination of everything the perfumers learned from making a flower stay in a fertile form, which is the only time miranda pollon forms, very similar to the blessings that pool on the lower arch of the Elden Ring.
I think the dragons had a god and an age, but something destroyed their "sacred tree" which regrew into the flower crucible, not being bound by time and death now present in the world, allowed the crucible to bloom, but someone or something noticed one flower was golden and the central flower, and grew only that one to somehow become the erdtree
In the description of the perfumers talisman, I'm guessing "or obscured by shadows inside of caves" wasn't just put there to let us know caves are dark and shadowy.
I feel like we’re heading toward a video where you just give us cool plant facts, and honestly I’m cravin it 😍 Rich and amazing analysis as always!!!
Always wondered what “Miranda” was referring to. Maybe we’ll get something in the DLC? I’m hoping so since we are likely to learn something about the Crucible in the Shadowlands.
Would love to see a video on Alexander someday too! Another one of those classic Souls questlines that starts so hearty and ends so sad.
It is a shame we have such a limited eye color rng irl. Red or purple would be dope asf
They added a flower crucible attack, looks like you predicted it
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I can understand why they removed it, it would make people wonder what other forms of crucible there are. if there is a flower one then perhaps there is a fauna one? dedicated for animals or wildlife in general. but the description of the crucible suggest its where all things began or something similar thus the ''primordial soup'' where all things crawled out of. still its also a shame would of been interesting to stumble upon a skyrim style spriggan with petals on her shoulders or something.
Thanks for the video!
I always wondered what the origins of my omen cleaver markings were now it makes sense
LOVED this! Amazing little lore video to dive into something that was removed, would love if you dug into some of the other stuff!!
Cool, I've been curious after Zullies video about Rune Bears seemingly having connections to Dragons, and that in the files they are named RuneBear, and the Miranda flower is named RuneFlower.
Reminds me of Miquella's Haligtree....