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Any goddess with the owl with her is the devil talks about 13 owls with Lillith. Athena is one of the best goddes Zeus who works for Lucifer that's a top rank general demon he is
Also the demons have a lot of fun terrorizing poor goddess Athena she stood up for Medusa and that's what they did to her right in front of her eyes she helped her soul later on also many other beings they terrorize in front of poor goddess Athena but she's very strong and she fights on the good fight which you can't count in the afterlife she's one of the rare goddesses who truly fight for good an kind of allowed to compared to other goddess who try
Wish you added in the bit of Athena's Aegis also having the ability to quake the skies with thunderbolts when she shook it. So imagine Athena vs an army. She leaps into battle and destroys hundreds of men at a time with a single swing from her spear, and as she dances between them in a flurry of death, the occasional warrior who is unlucky enough to gaze upon her shield is turned to stone. And while she does all this, the sound of thunderbolts stab the sky, demoralizing her enemies as they stare in awe as men die in front of them, either from turning to stone, or getting obliterated by her spear. A true warrior Goddess that's for sure.
BTW Medusa had 2 other sisters, Sthenno and Euryale who were also Gorgons like herself. So the curse from Athena story is obviously a later story, as you rightly say.
I think I might do a video just on Medusa because I feel like there’s a lot to unpack when it comes to her storyline and how it shifted over time. Would you be interested in such a video?
Fan facts: Before Persian invasion in Athens, Athena's sacret animals were qrows and snakes (you can see that in her archaic statue from Acropolis). After the destraction of Acropolis' first temple and the construction of Parthenon her animal changed to owls because Acropolis was full of owl nests. By this is possible that Homer meant grey-eyed and had nothing to do with owls. Also Athena was half water deity because of her mother and half sky daity because of Zeus. So there is a chance that is an evidence of her heritage (sky-sea, blue-green). I love this godess. She is so fascinating. :)
Zeus's first wife was Metis, mother to Athena. Metis was the Titaness of thought. She received a prophecy that her son would take over her husband's throne. But at this time, she was pregnant with Athena. So Zeus, paranoid as ever, took a page out of his father's book. He instructed Metis to transform into a fly. He then opened his mouth and swallowed his first wife.
As a follower of Athena, there was little information here that was new to me. I mention this because I was very impressed by the amount of information, even obscure facts, that you included and organized so well, so succinct and clear, with excellent visuals. Excellent use of Wonder Woman, who is the pop culture parallel to Athena, the Athena energy if you will. I was surprised that you did not mention that women lost the vote in Athena to placate Poseidon.
I have always thought, Wonder woman was part of Artemis's woman army from Amazon. The stories about greek mythology I have read from Rick Riordan novels. So my knowledge is limited 😊
I remember I once called for help during a crisis of faith and Athena answered my call, appearing in all her glory. You did Athena many honors. One of the best presentations written about her that I've seen.
as a Greek i would like to recommend you to follow only the Greek version of the myths or else people get confused of what to think of our gods. thanks for the video.
Thanks for the suggestion. My focus is definitely on the Greek myths but I wanted to talk about Ovid’s account in order to show the contrast of her character in the original Greek stories. I think the myth from Ovid is a source of a lot of misunderstanding about Αθηνά.
@Jd Bn depends on when you were born and what do you know. 3k years ago you would've worshiped them. after 3k years you would've admired them for they had crazy technology, knowledge and lived a wild life. today you think they are idiots. just sayin.
@Jd Bn God does not make mistakes. There are NO 'fallen' angels. That is NOT Biblical - you are repeating the false narrative of non-canonical stories with moral teachings entailed, but not accepted factual accounts.
Then raise your daughter very well and strong,show her how to be a great woman and she doesn't need to rely on men,teach her to love herself,find her talent and be strong.
I saw a program about the Minoan culture on Crete which dates back much further than the Greek culture and in it it was stated that Athena was probably a pre-Greek goddess that was worshiped everywhere including Minoan Crete long before her cult got centred on the city of Athens.
You’re videos are unmatched, you bring mythology to life I see Athena as one of the most important figures in Greek mythology and one of the first idols for women 🤍
Hi Vanessa. Your words really mean a lot to me and it was wonderful to read them first thing today. I’ve loved and admired strong women my whole life and so Athena has always been very dear to me.
Thanks for your comment. I thought I would save it for a future video since it is a Roman story and I already included a Roman story of her from Ovid. The focus with this video was more on how the ancient Greeks saw her 😊
It's a bit of surprise that Marvel didn't base the first Spider-Woman on Arachnee given that they made their own version of various Greek and Norse gods.
Narrator: I love your voice! It's so comforting and soothing, like a good father talking to you after something bad has happened to you. I could listen to you talk all day. I'm looking forward to more of these videos!
I loved the video a lot. For us Hindus we have goddess Saraswati who was also born from her father, Lord Brahma's head. She too was goddess of wisdom. She doesn't have goddess of war aspect though. Similar to Athena, we have another goddess Laxmi and her sacred animal is an owl too. She is goddess of wealth and prosperity. I find these little connections between ancient greek religion and Hinduism fascinating.
I didn’t know that. How fascinating. I would love to dive into Hinduism at some point. At the moment I only know the basics. These parallels between the religious beliefs of Hindus and ancient Greeks could be an interesting topic to explore in a video. Thanks for your comment!
For me, Athena is my most favorite goddess among all the gods and goddesses in Greek myths. If there is such a thing as "spirit-goddess" then that should be her for me.
And yet her priestess get raped in her own temple and instead of saving her she punished her👏👏👏👏👏now what does this say about her, favourite goddess for what 🙄
Similar to stories about the Djinn. Capricious beings that deliver responses to prayers and requests that turn out differently than expected. Also different cultures might benefit from disrespecting their rivals venerated beings.
Why don't you read Rick Riordan's books on Greek Mythology? Start with Percy Jackson and the Olympians - The Lightning Thief and end with The Trials of Apollo - The Tower of Nero.
@@TinyEpics exactly. but the thing is, Hollywood doesn't cares about research or world building. example - Gods of Egypt Lol. now that was a abomination, the fact that, they didn't even bother to cast egyptian ethnicity actors, just shows how much they are out of touch.
@@jack76thegamer30 GOW series is not really a accurate portrayal of greek mythology tho. it's a fictional story which romantizes with that universe.. I mean I wouldn't mind if they make an animation series on GOW (tho they will most likely, go for norse mythology, considering the new game) but I would like to see a original story based on that universe, with accurate portrayal of the events and gods. so far, the most original one I have seen, would be that Netflix series, "Blood of Zeus" but the story itself is nothing interesting
And let's not forget: That time Athena empowered and aided Diomedes, one of her greatest mortal champions, to wound both Aphrodite and Ares. It essentially sends the message: Don't f**k with Athena in war, even if you are divine. Or she'll screw you then make you cry for help.
What makes that gift more amazing is, is it based on actual war or anything one PERCEIVES as a battle. This could mean one wins every time one plays games because it's a "battle" against an opponent, or gambles because it's a battle against "the house". So many ways to use that gift then.
I would also mention that Athena being Metis’ daughter, was skilled in cunning and guile as well as wisdom. I just love the combination. And so she imbued the great Odysseus with these traits, hence his idea of, The Trojan Horse. The great deceit.
There is another version of her and Medusa. Where she was not enraged at Medusa, but appalled by what happened. Therefore, she turned her into the, "monster," so no man could ever do that to her again. The story of the apple makes me laugh my ass off. I HIGHLY doubt Athena, Greek Goddess of War and Wisdom (and yes, other things) gave two shits about who was the fairest Goddess. There is no mention that it was a spell created by the Goddess of Discord and Chaos. No one talks about Athena's looks, just her eyes. I honestly have no idea how she got dragged into that one.
I think it was because she was being shown up by Aphrodite and Hera. She disliked both intensely. And it is implied she's beautiful, like her mother, though everyone avoids talking about her looks, assumingly out of respect for her. So when it became a case of who was the fairest, Athena tossed her hat in just to muck up Aphrodite's claim and to mess with Hera. Later, she and Hera teamed up against Aphrodite and Apollo during the Trojan wars. That little apple caused a ton of trouble! Eris for the win! As for Medusa, I think some of the context is lost and everyone is repeating different versions of the story. You got to understand that you're dealing with both Greek (early) and Roman (later) telling of the story from various authors who were not afraid to add a little 'context' to their version. Homer only described her as being terrifying. She was later given wings, she could turn you to stone, she had snake hair or whatnot. In one story, she even gave birth to Pegasus! The point is, everyone agrees she was monstrous, as well as her two sisters, Stheno and Euryale. All three were daughters of Phorcys and Ceto or maybe Gia. All being primordial beings. (Not Olympians, pre-dating them) Unfortunately for Medusa, she was the only one that was mortal. The story that makes the most sense to me was that she was a Priestess of Athena and was sworn to be chaste. However she laid with Poseidon, (willingly, because she's the daughter of a sea god and probably thought Poseidon was hot stuff) and was punished for breaking her vows. Her two sisters stepped in to argue her case and Athena punished them for giving her lip. To me, that lines up with why we don't have a war between Athena and Poseidon over Poseidon raping a girl in Athena's temple. Medusa's actions justifies the punishment she receives. If she was raped or not is debatable. The story changed over time and the setting moved to be more convenient to the author even though everyone agrees she was punished by Athena for _______ reason. All I can say is that her story, her appearance, and why she was punished was malleable. You're dealing with myths written 2600+ years ago by several authors. So who knows?
We highly doubt, but there is a chance, in a way it gives more character/color if she does care who was the fairest. Reminds me of a "true" story from a prostitute who said there were rich, powerful men paying to eat her out to give her an orgasm. Why should powerful men care if a prostitute has an organism or not? Sounds fake, could be fake, but it might be real. I would agree she might had done it to "protect" medusa IF medusa agrees to the terms or there was some hidden knowledge she knew that might had happen if medusa wasn't turned to the way she was.
Fair Can Also Be Reasonable, Fair Can Mean Beauty, Fair Can Mean Powerful. Of Course They Pit My Personalities Against Each Other, As My Mind Is Dominant.
@Κρις Κρος stop your propaganda, you tried to protect Athena without any proof, that's why you target Lilith who was also a victim of male dominating society. I adore Lilith because she was the only woman who never submits to any man, Athena just pretend to be feminist but punish victim where Lilith stand for herself against injustice. I can say you are a guy who believes in man dominating society. And can't tolerate if a woman stands against you. Lilith is not only mine but lots of girls idols and you will face feminism very soon.
Athena Glaukopis... Grey eyes that see through the darkness of ignorance and deception Athena promakos... First in battle, Leader of men, not behind the lines, but alongside them Athena Parthenos... Virgin, Untouched by ignorance and arrogance Athena Tritogenia... Born three times, from her father, from her mother and by her own will Athena Ergane... Industrious, For in her name we build a better world with restless determination Proud, strong, cunning, active and merciful... I love her, how could I not?
Thanks so much! She has gotten a lot of requests, so I plan to do a video entirely devoted to Hecate. Btw: I did talk about Hecate in my video about Artemis which you can see here: ruclips.net/video/9R6ebKgKsM0/видео.html
I worship Athena The Grayed Goddess of Wisdom and wish I could visit the Parthenon and honour Athena in her temple. Her warcry is the origin of the Rebel Yell made faithful in our American Civil War.
Do try to visit the Parthenon. It is a very spiritual experience for those of us who worship the Hellenic gods. Also Athens is rather affordable compared to a lot of European cities. Are you very far from Athens?
YeeHaw? I'm pretty sure that's borrowed from Bedouin warriors in the Ottoman Empire yelling "Ji-Had" as they rode to war, but that could have come from some older Goddess custom...whats the connection to Athena, please??
She is my fav goddess!!! I mean, look at her! She is smart, wise, beautiful and she's also the goddess of justice! I admire her, I respect her and I would like to be as intelligent and wise as she is
athena is my favorite goddess of all time.. i love artemis too.. anyway, I am so glad that unlike other videos, you told about the other stories and not with Ovid's version alone.. for that I thank you.. it hurts me (affected much?) when someone bad mouth Athena..
She is probably my favorite as well… or at least the goddess that feels closest to me. I am glad you enjoyed the video! I agree that Athena is often completely misunderstood and gets so much hate because of the later Roman stories.
Sure! I am still amazed at how one story by a Roman poet is the one thing people seem to focus on when bashing Athena. And Arachne (also Ovid). He definitely had a gift for dramatic and memorable storytelling…
Oh now I just read this comment so I know your answer to my question! Yeah, I felt it was necessary to unpack the original Greek Athena from the Roman Minerva because, for me, they are virtually two different goddesses. What do you like most about Athena?
@@TinyEpics What I like most about Athena? A lot of stuff lol, but i'll said the fact that she is a strong and powerful goddess. she is brave, wise and at the same time delicate and skillful with her needle as well with her spear.
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Athena’s Owl 1:00 Athena’s Aegis 1:36 Athena and Medusa 2:49 Athena’s Birth 4:17 Founding of Athens 5:15 Judgement of Paris 6:29 Trojan War (Odysseus) 8:21 Trojan War (Cassandra) 9:49
Athena and Medusa is my favorite ovids take on it is so interesting and even though he was a Roman poet I still consider it a Greek mythology story. The fact that Athena cursed her fits with the depiction of all the Greek gods since they were described as imperfect and cursing someone because they were assaulted is definitely imperfect also since she is the goddess of wisdom it adds another layer to it
One of the reasons I made this video is because I feel Athena is often unfairly characterized as cruel, petty and heartless. Although she can be incredibly tough, I don’t think it’s true that she’s unfeeling. I feel a lot of the bad rap comes from Ovid’s story of Medusa. What are your thoughts on this?
@@kitanaedenian2575 Exactly. And as far as I know Ovid detested the gods and purposefully characterized them as poorly as possible to help inspire the Roman people to distrust the gods and rely on themselves more. Super interesting, as the secular world began to supplant the pious one. I can see things from both perspectives, but I personally have a sense of respect for the Greek deities and their depth of symbolism which was perhaps inherited from worship dating back to the Paleolithic era (according to archaeologist Marija Gimbutas and others). All that said, ancient Greek culture and of course their myths contain their fair share of misogyny and other problematic topics. But I think there has been an agenda for the last several millennia to demonize the female deities much more than the male deities.
There have been almost no efforts to show positive sides of greek deities. There have been no stories of Zeus blessing someone or freeing them from theit torment. In most of the myths the deities either act in their own way and don't care about mortals who worshipped them or when they intervein in lives of mortals it's often for the bad. Then there are poets like Ovid who basically villainized these deities and helped the Christians to secure their ideology.
@@swapnilsonawane9874 From what I've read about Zeus I know he's not all, and only womanizer. Although I am not fond of him because that's the aspect most people would see when we think about him. I am sure Tiny Epics would do a video/s that will correct that. :)
I like your Athena video a lot. The points and stories about her you touched on gives an overview I can dive more into. It also points out certain things so details have now been pieced and clicked together. I now have a better understanding and view of Athena. Thank you! I've always thought that some things do not add up with the Medusa story/ account. (As with many of myth accounts). There's a lot of blank space and things to do not quite connect. I usually then just understand that's where we as individuals and a culture speculate and read into it. In the end, the reading reflects more about the individual and culture. For me, the blank spaces will always be unknown, and therefore where theories and imaginations can run the wildest. Maybe that's part of the beauty of these myths.
I read a lot of supernatural and paranormal fiction adventure/romance stories and in many of them the Greek Gods will make appearances. I have at least a basic understanding on the main players, but lately I have found myself with more interest about the Gods. Problem is there is so much information out there about the topic, that trying to engage with it is just daunting. I do know the "For Dummies" series covers the topics (Mythology for Dummies).But Im loving that there are people you who have taken the time to put these videos together. There are several other creators doing similar educational videos, but I checked out the comments and it appears you receive high praise. So thanks my friend.
Loved this video. Have Liked and Subscribed. Would love to watch more of your wonderfully made videos, which to be honest, is more of a treasure trove. Well done and best of luck!
The color of the godness eyes is actually unclear. English speakers always said she's grey-eyed. BUT, _glaukos_ means "green" or "blue" with a notion of transparency, so _glaukopis_ should mean "green/blue eyes". The word itself comes from the marine deity Glaukos. I've always learnt that Athena has an undefinite color of eyes, however it seems that her eyes are closer to blue-green. In french, Athena is sometimes called _la déesse aux yeux pers_ ( _pers_ eyed goddess) which is an unknow color nowadays. The color is somewhere between blue and green but grey is between black and white.
Thanks for your insightful comment! I think the famous translation “grey-eyed goddess” was used to try and describe an unusual, indeterminate quality of Athena’s eyes where the color, like a mirror, reflects and changes depending on the environment around her as well as her particular temperament. Rather like the sea. I also like the use of the word “flashing” to describe her eyes. Reminds me of polished bronze catching the light, like the Aegis she carries. Madeline Miller chose to describe Athena using a very cold, grey and steely palette in her novel “Circe”. Wow. Athena comes off frightening in that book!
It is powerful feminine energies that has been put in human legends for us to understand how some higher forces, perhaps Venusian forces, work. She sees what really takes place. She understands the games people play and knows the innocent. It's getting involved that sometimes puts her image at stake. You have to unravel the wisdom of her actions as it reflects how different energies in other realms work and helps to understand what's at stake. She is of Venus and is very compassionate.
Indeed, and I find it interesting how she became warlike later on. Though there was a fragment from a Bronze Age fresco found showing a goddess wearing a boar’s tusk helmet and holding a griffin. I originally mentioned Athena and her possible connection to Potnia Theron, too, but I think I’ll save that for another video. Wanted to keep the focus here on archaic-classical Greek and Roman depictions of her in this one.
@@TinyEpics Athena taking on War/Martial stylings and patronages I suspect was a result of Athens needing to convey a sense of powerful militarism to potential threats like the Spartans who were not only highly militaristic, they were extremely patriarchal. Athenian society was no less patriarchal but they wanted to not only assert their intellectual superiority over Sparta and Thebes, there wanted to establish and be seen as not only militaristically capable of defending themselves but that this defense was sanctified presided over by the Goddess of War herself. The city might have been named for a female deity but there was to be no mistake, that this was no ordinary Goddess, and she was not subject to the typical whims the female sex. If you want war with Athens then you will be challenging the Goddess who divined the concept into existence, and you're going to lose.
yeah, her 'warrior' aspect is really about Defense of the Polis, or People protecting each other as a community. It's not Martial. Her Wisdom is the genius that blooms from people sharing ideas as a community. She is Goddess of Polis. Of mankind coming together.
@@Lu11abi Well-said! I love the myth about Athenians voting to choose the city's patron deity between Earthshaker Poseidon and Athena. The people's concern for each is "what can you do for us," so Poseidon causes an earthquake, but Athena bestows the olive tree and its husbandry. Winner, Athena!
@@37Dionysos 🥰 Thanks, Dionysos! (That's my Dude, btw, the Son of Seleme! 😉🍇🍷 Via Ecstasis!) (Latin, I know, no offense Greek speakers...) I literally praise and contemplaTe Athena every time I eat an olive! And I eat a bunch of olives... I feel like I just tanked the iq average displayed in this comment's thread with my vapid reply, ha ha, but that myth brings me this joy!
Just adding on some of the story of Medusa and Athena I've read. Venus(can't spell Greek names lol ) put a love/lust spell on Neptune .to prove something or other to other gods and goddess . Can't remember why the real reason was. The other story is she changed Medusa to protect herself from men and took her head as respect and put it on her sheld. Can't remember which is Greek or roman. You might know. Like Hindu. There are different storys of God and goddess from different regions. We just get the popular ones. Good show.👍
Thank you so much for these stories . So many of us really love and Revere the old ways and the love and care you give to telling these tales are truly inspiring . From the bottom of my heart thank you .
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I officially welcome you here too! So glad you enjoy the content and I’m flattered by your kind and encouraging words. Looking forward to bringing you fresh content.
As someone who considers themselves the daughter of Athena, it fills me with joy to see you use her proper name spelling, and I look forward to your inclusive perspectives. Pallas Athena and I have a deep connection and communicate when necessary. I urge to explore her story further, as she fled to lower Egypt [ Neith ] eventually and created her Monarchy, and brought her serpent son [Sobek] to help rule over the people and places of worship just like in Greece. as already stated by another viewer what a exquisitely edited short informational info jam-packed with information known and widely unknown. with you being so fond of Athena I was wondering if you had also had the pleasure of working with, communicating, or being visited by her? I'm always seeking new perspectives and information, but cant commit to my curiosities full-time. I've got a homestead to raise. Thank you for creating content that makes it easier for people to be exposed to the truth of these earlier, energy beings, and I look forward to more content on Athena. With the parallels in mind, there's plenty in content on her serpent son King. Again, thank you.
Thank you so much for your very thoughtful commentary. I will definitely look deeper into Athena and create more videos for you to enjoy. While reading the Homeric epics in high school I felt the strongest connection to Athena and she’s remained an inspiration throughout my life. I didn’t know that about her fleeing to Egypt. How fascinating! Is this from a particular poet’s account? Wishing you all the very best.
@@TinyEpics there is a myth that states when Olympus was attacked the different gods took animal forms and fled to Egypt. It is based around how Capricorn was created but idk the name
Athena is the Biblical Shekinah. She is related to in the Bible as 'daughter of God Most High who was with Him at the Creation of the Cosmos,' and is specifically addressed by David in Psalms. Which is why in Eastern Churches there is a 'Saint Sophia' and the 'Hagia Sofia.' Sophia = Wisdom. She is physically embodied - or physically manifest - in various identities in Biblical accounts as 'Sarah' or 'Zara.'
One little correction. Athens wasn't without name before the competition of Athena and Poseidon, it was known as Cecropia (in the myth) from the King Cecrops. Keep on the good work💕
Athena is not only the patron goddess of the city of Athens but to the whole of Greece! All Greeks should have the greatest respect for her and pay their homage to her!
A lot of people believe that these so called Olympics gods where not myths at all. They where the first offspring of the watchers men of renoun. A race that lived before the deluge. There names remain among us until now. Its food for thought. Think and ponder on the subject matter any way you care to.
It is likely most gods started as actual people who became heroes and then gods. Still, many pagan gods have a Proto-Indo-European origin, so they may be as ancient as 10,000 old. I prefer the Jung's theory of Archetypes. We humans give labels to those archetypes and those labels used to be gods. Now, they are parties and whole ideologies.
So happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for your comment! Welcome to the channel, and please be sure to check out some of the other videos in my Olympian Gods playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLdrf_6omo4cxaJBmF4vsJT5JOfgyFPL_p
Greek Mythology interwoven with history has always been interesting, however it’s all speculation. I do think WW was possibly inspired from Athena because it was the ancient Greeks that referred to Goddess’ more than other civilizations.
Would you be willing to do a Medusa video? I already know a lot about her because I have this book that goes over how people have viewed her in different times called Medusa in the mirror of Time and even though I don’t believe she exist I still love learning about her and other Greek figures
Athena is the only goddess that cared more about humanity, and her participation in the Trojan War is her revenge against Posideon for defiling her priestess, Medusa, and her temple. She could not go up against one of the original triumvate ( her father Zeus, and Her uncles Posideon and Hades ) openly and had to do so undercover with her champion odysseus. Note that Athena is not a vain goddess, but she can be prideful because she can be rightfully so. I believe her participation in the contest for beauty (which she is most eligible because wisdom is beautiful as it is the most craftful thought and consideration that brings forth the best solutions and actions) but she did not participate for physical beauty per se, rather, she is in on the action and scheme and bigger themes about the big issues of the End of the Age of the Gods, And is playing along to further the agenda of saving all Creation by a transition to beyond the Age Of Heroes ( in her unique way in her own dominion and influence) remember, Zeus WISELY said no to the judging and gave it to Paris, of all people, a Trojan prince. Furthermore, Her episode with Arachne the Weaver (is the only other outburst for her because she punished Arachne for her hubris for challenging her the title of the best Weaver ( although, it was the ungrateful villagers that forced the poor girl to go toe to toe with Athena. The goddess did not kill Arachne, because the poor girl hanged herself, it was Athena who felt pity and some culpability, so she ressurected her as a spider, so Arachne can do what she does best and loved to do, forever). Know that Athena did not punish Arachne for being a better weaver, but rather punish her for being foolish and being swayed by the villagers into the competition. And she never laid a finger on Arachne. Arachne killed herself. In order to appreciate Athena, we really must study her actions and her motivation as an embodiment of Wisdom, a mostly human quality, before we malign her for being tempermental, which is an utter opposite frame of mind from cool and level_headness that bespeaks wisdom. IO! IO! HAIL Athena Erganê!! HAIL Athena Ellênia!!
@@TinyEpics thanks for the feedback. i loved the greek mythos, and i enjoyed watching your videos, i have hit subscribed, and would love to see you do one on Arachne and Athena someday!
@@michaeltrinta7207 that is a general reading -- but you are imposing a 20th century feminist reading to an ancient story. so, i am sorry to say that your reading and understanding is Anachronistic. If you are a feminist theorist, you need to also read an essay by Helene Cixious on the Medusa -- and also understand the relationship between God amd Priest. The rule stipulates chastity no matter what happens, like Cassandra and Apollo -- which is another case study -- so you need to read it as a deeper mystery to the relationship between a priestess and a god. Furthermore, as Godly hierarchy goes as i mentioned before, the original triumvate is hard to go against, and Posideon have an ongoing feud with Athena over the Patronage of Athens -- so you need to understand the backstory of their "tit for tat" games, so another reading is that Posideon ravished Medusa to get back at Athena for taking away Athens from him . Now, you also need to consider Medusa as possibly a Gorgon ( more obscure myths said that there are 3 sisters, of which Medusa is one. Non-human priestesses and priests are common also); so we wondered if she was human standards beautiful or otherwise to begin with or as a form of unfoldment of Medusa's nature -- but one thing we do know that as a monster, she is formidable, and her power resides in her stare/ eye and head/ caput -- which is a place where wisdom or thought resides, and Athena is also associated with sight/ perspective ( her eyes are storm grey) , so -- when Medusa's head is absorbed into Athena's Aegis, we must understand symbolism and that her favourite priestess will be by her side- literally-- forever, serving Athena. When you read of misadventures of mortal beings with gods, the humans tend to be distilled into the very essence of their being and nature, and at that point united with their chosen patron deity's "godhead". So, when we consider that godhood is not easily or freely given, the closest these loyal servants and priests and lovers would get is to be transformed into something else that would last forever. You need to learn not to see Medusa's fate as an injustice and failure-- her fate us avenged by the destruction of Posideon's favourite city, Troy, by Athena through her champion, wily Odysseus ( and Posideon, later made Odysseus' life hell -- 7rs at sea in the Odyssey, to get back at Athena). To basically use 2nd wave feminism critical theory to sledgehammer something so nuanced as an ancient myth that has survived millennia is not only a lapse of perspective, but also a reminder for us to require abit of patience and wisdom to meaningfully unpack.
Great video of the Greek goddess. But as for her story with Medusa, since it was told by a Roman, isn't it basically propaganda since the Romans are said to be decendants of Aeneas, a Trojan? Thanks.
Thanks a lot! That’s a very interesting observation. Ovid was not a fan of the gods in general, regardless of their allegiance to Greeks or Trojans. He wanted the Romans to leave behind their dependence on the gods and rely on themselves instead. In a way, Ovid poked fun at the gods in order to show that they were just as jealous and revengeful as humans… but even worse! So yes, it was anti-gods propaganda in general. An ancient Greek writer, take Hesiod for instance, was pious and showed great respect for the gods in their work.
Athena's 'wisdom' - first master our emotions. Then Rational clear and higher mind. Anyone can be angry at anything. Look at history of past warfare's. Getting angry is easy. However, knowing when, where and how we chose our battles, wisely... is the greater task. Anyone who has this wisdom (emotional intelligence) has Athena's real gifts bestowed upon them. Thank you for sharing this. ✨🙏🏻
Athena : I'm the Goddess of Wisdom and always one step of ahead. And also Athena... Athena : What have you done!? That power was meant for me! They didn't know what to do with the power!!?? I think I got the point...
It makes sense that the Romans would change the stories about Athena. The Romans considered themselves descendants of Troy, and Athena fought against them. This was their way of getting revenge on her. Demoting her role and demonizing her actions while at the same time Promoting her bitter rival Ares.
Oh interesting. I never thought of it like that before. Makes sense, although Ovid was quite secular and really didn’t like the gods so he was on a campaign to make them all appear shallow, petty and cruel.
I heard a version of the contest between possidon and Minerva to name the city , where possidon strikes the ground with his trident and a white horse appears. In your version he touches the ground with his spear and a spring appears.
@@Jia20046 I told her I did not believe in " gods" and She told me it did not matter. She. Said it is the gods that have faith. They have faith in heroes.
@@shadowforger2035 thank you sir...for telling me about the goddess Athena. She must be one of a kind beauty ! Did you summon her ...how was the experience? I Will Zeus and Greek gods ever show this generation that they exist...or remain as myth for others Wish you happy and amazing life.. Hail Athena!
Athena was strategic but as all it failed in the changes of surprise. One tiny detail can unleash a chain reaction that possibly she didn’t count off. It was that Greek Pantheon were not Gods and people started to be self aware.
Right? I mean I love how she just popped out fully formed with her shiny armor ready for battle! It’s said that even Hera, who is very difficult to impress, stopped in awe to witness the birth.
..and to think I already knew most of this thanks to a game - Immortals Fenyx Rising . Never thought about the effort some game creators put in until this video . Wow .
greek gods were trynants and authoritarian A-holes. much different from Asian gods who has proven to be virtuous and honor bound. even Indian Goddess Khali, the goddess of death and rebirth, has a strict code for bandits and sociopaths to never harm women, elderly and children.
Soooo…Athena, protector of humanity and innocence, turned Medusa into a monster because she got r*ped by a God? That makes sense to you? Because a man said it is so and wrote it down? Not that maybe Medusa was perhaps already a Gorgon and tried to hide in Athena’s temple to defile it? Or….maybe it never happened at all? Or maybe Medusa asked to be turned into a Gorgon so that the Gods would leave her alone? I mean…there are so many other alternative situations that could occur, but you automatically believe that one of the most beautiful and beloved Goddesses was jealous of a maiden who was violated by a God Athena had beef with? Lol! Okaaayy👌🏼 Because the patriarchy told all the stories of the past with full and complete honesty. 😉
@@ixchelskyfeather2513 i heard she was once defeated in a Weaving contest, fair and square. instead of admitting defeat or gave a reward to the talented woman who was loved by her village, Athena turn her into a spider, weaving forever.
@@communistpunk8044 again…you are just repeating myths written by men during a patriarchal society. Did it ever occur to you that these stories were meant to taint her reputation as the “right hand” of Zeus? Do you really think that the men of that time thought that was Her place? I’m just asking you to think beyond the written text and use your discernment and critical thinking skills.
@MortalGamerDC1 85 If you come from a family that has ever 'given thanks' af the dinner table then, congratulations, your meal is a contemporary sacrifice.
@MortalGamerDC1 85 ESPECIALLY Thanksgiving. If you think otherwise, you misunderstand pagan sacrifice. It was literally no different than any big holiday dinner we might enjoy today... Just the food was weird, and the names of the gods were different.
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Any goddess with the owl with her is the devil talks about 13 owls with Lillith. Athena is one of the best goddes Zeus who works for Lucifer that's a top rank general demon he is
Also the demons have a lot of fun terrorizing poor goddess Athena she stood up for Medusa and that's what they did to her right in front of her eyes she helped her soul later on also many other beings they terrorize in front of poor goddess Athena but she's very strong and she fights on the good fight which you can't count in the afterlife she's one of the rare goddesses who truly fight for good an kind of allowed to compared to other goddess who try
I'll do! let's wait for the November loan..
Wish you added in the bit of Athena's Aegis also having the ability to quake the skies with thunderbolts when she shook it. So imagine Athena vs an army. She leaps into battle and destroys hundreds of men at a time with a single swing from her spear, and as she dances between them in a flurry of death, the occasional warrior who is unlucky enough to gaze upon her shield is turned to stone. And while she does all this, the sound of thunderbolts stab the sky, demoralizing her enemies as they stare in awe as men die in front of them, either from turning to stone, or getting obliterated by her spear. A true warrior Goddess that's for sure.
Thanks for your comment! Maybe I can incorporate this into a future video. Rad description!
@@TinyEpics Haha thanks! I'm writing a Greek myth science fic book, and that's a little scene I plan to put into it. :). Glad you enjoyed it!
That sounds incredible! I wish you all the best on your project and hope to read it one day.
Yeah she's the best imo.
Don't forget she's also the only divinity who can wield Zeus' lightning bolt apart from Zeus himself.
BTW Medusa had 2 other sisters, Sthenno and Euryale who were also Gorgons like herself.
So the curse from Athena story is obviously a later story, as you rightly say.
I think I might do a video just on Medusa because I feel like there’s a lot to unpack when it comes to her storyline and how it shifted over time. Would you be interested in such a video?
@@TinyEpics yes
@@TinyEpics Yes! =)
Fate knowledge
Ostracized...is the mirrors version of oneself.
Fan facts:
Before Persian invasion in Athens, Athena's sacret animals were qrows and snakes (you can see that in her archaic statue from Acropolis). After the destraction of Acropolis' first temple and the construction of Parthenon her animal changed to owls because Acropolis was full of owl nests. By this is possible that Homer meant grey-eyed and had nothing to do with owls. Also Athena was half water deity because of her mother and half sky daity because of Zeus. So there is a chance that is an evidence of her heritage (sky-sea, blue-green). I love this godess. She is so fascinating. :)
Very interesting! Thanks so much for sharing.
Zeus's first wife was Metis, mother to Athena. Metis was the Titaness of thought. She received a prophecy that her son would take over her husband's throne. But at this time, she was pregnant with Athena. So Zeus, paranoid as ever, took a page out of his father's book. He instructed Metis to transform into a fly. He then opened his mouth and swallowed his first wife.
Very nice and informative video. In my opinion, the best depiction of Athena is the one by Isabella Rossellini. She's simply perfect for the role.
@@MrIohannes movie name?
Well, i suspected she was half water. Due to her brother being da water god Posidon. So either same mother/ same father or both🌊🛡🏹⚔️
As a follower of Athena, there was little information here that was new to me. I mention this because I was very impressed by the amount of information, even obscure facts, that you included and organized so well, so succinct and clear, with excellent visuals. Excellent use of Wonder Woman, who is the pop culture parallel to Athena, the Athena energy if you will. I was surprised that you did not mention that women lost the vote in Athena to placate Poseidon.
Thanks so much for this comment! That means a lot to me.
I have always thought, Wonder woman was part of Artemis's woman army from Amazon. The stories about greek mythology I have read from Rick Riordan novels. So my knowledge is limited 😊
Diana is not Athena.. nowhere near her.
I remember I once called for help during a crisis of faith and Athena answered my call, appearing in all her glory. You did Athena many honors. One of the best presentations written about her that I've seen.
Thank you very much for sharing! 🕊️
as a Greek i would like to recommend you to follow only the Greek version of the myths or else people get confused of what to think of our gods. thanks for the video.
Thanks for the suggestion. My focus is definitely on the Greek myths but I wanted to talk about Ovid’s account in order to show the contrast of her character in the original Greek stories. I think the myth from Ovid is a source of a lot of misunderstanding about Αθηνά.
@Jd Bn depends on when you were born and what do you know. 3k years ago you would've worshiped them. after 3k years you would've admired them for they had crazy technology, knowledge and lived a wild life. today you think they are idiots. just sayin.
@Jd Bn They are god's that predate abrahamic god
And as a REAL Greek from Ithaca, I would like to say, that none of these things are 'myths.'
@Jd Bn God does not make mistakes. There are NO 'fallen' angels. That is NOT Biblical - you are repeating the false narrative of non-canonical stories with moral teachings entailed, but not accepted factual accounts.
I named my daughter Athena because of my love of Greek mythology and the movie Clash of the Titans. This film was done very well.
Great choice! What a wonderful name and honor for your daughter. Thanks so much for your comment!
Then raise your daughter very well and strong,show her how to be a great woman and she doesn't need to rely on men,teach her to love herself,find her talent and be strong.
I saw a program about the Minoan culture on Crete which dates back much further than the Greek culture and in it it was stated that Athena was probably a pre-Greek goddess that was worshiped everywhere including Minoan Crete long before her cult got centred on the city of Athens.
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You’re videos are unmatched, you bring mythology to life I see Athena as one of the most important figures in Greek mythology and one of the first idols for women 🤍
Hi Vanessa. Your words really mean a lot to me and it was wonderful to read them first thing today. I’ve loved and admired strong women my whole life and so Athena has always been very dear to me.
@@TinyEpics is there a movie for her.
Interesting video, but you forgot to mention her story with Arachnee, about how the spiders know to make their webs.
Thanks for your comment. I thought I would save it for a future video since it is a Roman story and I already included a Roman story of her from Ovid. The focus with this video was more on how the ancient Greeks saw her 😊
It's a bit of surprise that Marvel didn't base the first Spider-Woman on Arachnee given that they made their own version of various Greek and Norse gods.
Oh darling... she have lots of stories... she is one of the most important godesses in greek mithology... :)
Narrator: I love your voice! It's so comforting and soothing, like a good father talking to you after something bad has happened to you. I could listen to you talk all day. I'm looking forward to more of these videos!
I’m flattered and feel quite honored with this very specific compliment you’ve given me. Thank you and stay tuned. More is on the way!
@@TinyEpics allow me the comment : It is not pronounced as "Athéna" (this is the capital town) but as "Athenà".
I loved the video a lot. For us Hindus we have goddess Saraswati who was also born from her father, Lord Brahma's head. She too was goddess of wisdom. She doesn't have goddess of war aspect though. Similar to Athena, we have another goddess Laxmi and her sacred animal is an owl too. She is goddess of wealth and prosperity. I find these little connections between ancient greek religion and Hinduism fascinating.
I didn’t know that. How fascinating. I would love to dive into Hinduism at some point. At the moment I only know the basics. These parallels between the religious beliefs of Hindus and ancient Greeks could be an interesting topic to explore in a video. Thanks for your comment!
The female originated from Bramha's head was "vaak" not Sarsawati. Sarsawati is the wife of Bramha.
@@infinity-hr3qi thank you so much, you just saved me
And KRATOS slay the all greek GODS
@@kajaning kratos kills "gods" not "greek"gods, the dad of boi don't discriminate
For me, Athena is my most favorite goddess among all the gods and goddesses in Greek myths. If there is such a thing as "spirit-goddess" then that should be her for me.
I totally agree..it makes me sad 😫😩😩😥
im Turk! and i .... athena up the a...!
And yet her priestess get raped in her own temple and instead of saving her she punished her👏👏👏👏👏now what does this say about her, favourite goddess for what 🙄
Similar to stories about the Djinn.
Capricious beings that deliver responses to prayers and requests that turn out differently than expected.
Also different cultures might benefit from disrespecting their rivals venerated beings.
I love you angel
Greek mythology is so cool and interesting. I wish there was more entertainment material on this universe. especially movies and cartoons etc
Well they should just make animated ver of gow
I would love that, too. Especially if they’re well researched and incorporate lots of authentic details from the ancient Greek world 🤓
Why don't you read Rick Riordan's books on Greek Mythology? Start with Percy Jackson and the Olympians - The Lightning Thief and end with The Trials of Apollo - The Tower of Nero.
@@TinyEpics exactly. but the thing is, Hollywood doesn't cares about research or world building. example - Gods of Egypt Lol. now that was a abomination, the fact that, they didn't even bother to cast egyptian ethnicity actors, just shows how much they are out of touch.
@@jack76thegamer30 GOW series is not really a accurate portrayal of greek mythology tho. it's a fictional story which romantizes with that universe.. I mean I wouldn't mind if they make an animation series on GOW (tho they will most likely, go for norse mythology, considering the new game) but I would like to see a original story based on that universe, with accurate portrayal of the events and gods. so far, the most original one I have seen, would be that Netflix series, "Blood of Zeus" but the story itself is nothing interesting
And let's not forget: That time Athena empowered and aided Diomedes, one of her greatest mortal champions, to wound both Aphrodite and Ares. It essentially sends the message: Don't f**k with Athena in war, even if you are divine. Or she'll screw you then make you cry for help.
Dude should have taken wisdom and victory in _any_ battle. He could have owned the world.
I mean, it was definitely the best gift… right?
What makes that gift more amazing is, is it based on actual war or anything one PERCEIVES as a battle. This could mean one wins every time one plays games because it's a "battle" against an opponent, or gambles because it's a battle against "the house". So many ways to use that gift then.
@@TinyEpics Definitely
I’m fascinated with Greek myths so it’s nice to know more about Athena
Glad the video could help show you a little bit about her. Welcome to the channel!
Glad the video could help show you a little bit about her. Welcome to the channel!
I would also mention that Athena being Metis’ daughter, was skilled in cunning and guile as well as wisdom. I just love the combination. And so she imbued the great Odysseus with these traits, hence his idea of, The Trojan Horse. The great deceit.
You made it more interesting with facts after facts after facts! Great for students and mythology enthusiasts.
Happy you enjoyed it!
There is another version of her and Medusa. Where she was not enraged at Medusa, but appalled by what happened. Therefore, she turned her into the, "monster," so no man could ever do that to her again.
The story of the apple makes me laugh my ass off. I HIGHLY doubt Athena, Greek Goddess of War and Wisdom (and yes, other things) gave two shits about who was the fairest Goddess. There is no mention that it was a spell created by the Goddess of Discord and Chaos. No one talks about Athena's looks, just her eyes. I honestly have no idea how she got dragged into that one.
I think it was because she was being shown up by Aphrodite and Hera. She disliked both intensely. And it is implied she's beautiful, like her mother, though everyone avoids talking about her looks, assumingly out of respect for her. So when it became a case of who was the fairest, Athena tossed her hat in just to muck up Aphrodite's claim and to mess with Hera. Later, she and Hera teamed up against Aphrodite and Apollo during the Trojan wars. That little apple caused a ton of trouble! Eris for the win!
As for Medusa, I think some of the context is lost and everyone is repeating different versions of the story. You got to understand that you're dealing with both Greek (early) and Roman (later) telling of the story from various authors who were not afraid to add a little 'context' to their version. Homer only described her as being terrifying. She was later given wings, she could turn you to stone, she had snake hair or whatnot. In one story, she even gave birth to Pegasus!
The point is, everyone agrees she was monstrous, as well as her two sisters, Stheno and Euryale. All three were daughters of Phorcys and Ceto or maybe Gia. All being primordial beings. (Not Olympians, pre-dating them) Unfortunately for Medusa, she was the only one that was mortal.
The story that makes the most sense to me was that she was a Priestess of Athena and was sworn to be chaste. However she laid with Poseidon, (willingly, because she's the daughter of a sea god and probably thought Poseidon was hot stuff) and was punished for breaking her vows. Her two sisters stepped in to argue her case and Athena punished them for giving her lip. To me, that lines up with why we don't have a war between Athena and Poseidon over Poseidon raping a girl in Athena's temple. Medusa's actions justifies the punishment she receives.
If she was raped or not is debatable. The story changed over time and the setting moved to be more convenient to the author even though everyone agrees she was punished by Athena for _______ reason.
All I can say is that her story, her appearance, and why she was punished was malleable. You're dealing with myths written 2600+ years ago by several authors. So who knows?
We highly doubt, but there is a chance, in a way it gives more character/color if she does care who was the fairest. Reminds me of a "true" story from a prostitute who said there were rich, powerful men paying to eat her out to give her an orgasm. Why should powerful men care if a prostitute has an organism or not? Sounds fake, could be fake, but it might be real. I would agree she might had done it to "protect" medusa IF medusa agrees to the terms or there was some hidden knowledge she knew that might had happen if medusa wasn't turned to the way she was.
Fair Can Also Be Reasonable, Fair Can Mean Beauty, Fair Can Mean Powerful. Of Course They Pit My Personalities Against Each Other, As My Mind Is Dominant.
This video shows Athena as good but honestly what she did to Medusa has no excuse. Athena was horrible as a woman who punished victims
@Κρις Κρος stop your propaganda, you tried to protect Athena without any proof, that's why you target Lilith who was also a victim of male dominating society. I adore Lilith because she was the only woman who never submits to any man, Athena just pretend to be feminist but punish victim where Lilith stand for herself against injustice.
I can say you are a guy who believes in man dominating society. And can't tolerate if a woman stands against you. Lilith is not only mine but lots of girls idols and you will face feminism very soon.
I have been having white owls in my dreams so I found this looking for owl meanings. Great video!
That’s so fascinating and cool! Sounds like Athena might be visiting you in the form of her owl 🦉 They are absolutely incredible creatures.
My favourite...goddess.
🦉 She’s one of the greatest, for sure!
She's beautiful.
@@savagedarksider5934 Agreed! And more than just physical beauty. I love her inner strength and desire to help those in need.
@@TinyEpics Thank you ! I got into A argument with someone on youtube saying Athena wasn't beautiful.
She possesses a rare kind of beauty that some people don’t understand. The wise amongst us get it though!
Athena Glaukopis... Grey eyes that see through the darkness of ignorance and deception
Athena promakos... First in battle, Leader of men, not behind the lines, but alongside them
Athena Parthenos... Virgin, Untouched by ignorance and arrogance
Athena Tritogenia... Born three times, from her father, from her mother and by her own will
Athena Ergane... Industrious, For in her name we build a better world with restless determination
Proud, strong, cunning, active and merciful... I love her, how could I not?
I love this comment. Thanks for joining the conversation.
I'm really enjoying this. I'd love to see you do one on Hecate, if you haven't done one already.
Thanks so much! She has gotten a lot of requests, so I plan to do a video entirely devoted to Hecate.
Btw: I did talk about Hecate in my video about Artemis which you can see here: ruclips.net/video/9R6ebKgKsM0/видео.html
I worship Athena The Grayed Goddess of Wisdom and wish I could visit the Parthenon and honour Athena in her temple. Her warcry is the origin of the Rebel Yell made faithful in our American Civil War.
Do try to visit the Parthenon. It is a very spiritual experience for those of us who worship the Hellenic gods. Also Athens is rather affordable compared to a lot of European cities. Are you very far from Athens?
YeeHaw?
I'm pretty sure that's borrowed from Bedouin warriors in the Ottoman Empire yelling "Ji-Had" as they rode to war, but that could have come from some older Goddess custom...whats the connection to Athena, please??
ya, just to hate blacks and natives when the north won
She is my fav goddess!!! I mean, look at her! She is smart, wise, beautiful and she's also the goddess of justice! I admire her, I respect her and I would like to be as intelligent and wise as she is
athena is my favorite goddess of all time.. i love artemis too.. anyway, I am so glad that unlike other videos, you told about the other stories and not with Ovid's version alone.. for that I thank you.. it hurts me (affected much?) when someone bad mouth Athena..
She is probably my favorite as well… or at least the goddess that feels closest to me. I am glad you enjoyed the video! I agree that Athena is often completely misunderstood and gets so much hate because of the later Roman stories.
@@Angel-nr8td i hope so.. you? who is your favorite greek God/Goddess
@@Angel-nr8td 🤣😂🤣😂 if only it was real
Hail you Mighty ATHENA!!!
She's always been my favorite in Greek Mythology growing up...
Thank you for clarifying that whole cursed Medusa thing
Sure! I am still amazed at how one story by a Roman poet is the one thing people seem to focus on when bashing Athena. And Arachne (also Ovid). He definitely had a gift for dramatic and memorable storytelling…
Thanks for the video Athena is my favorite Greek God. glad you mention the difference between the Roman myth and the Greek myth of Medusa
Oh now I just read this comment so I know your answer to my question! Yeah, I felt it was necessary to unpack the original Greek Athena from the Roman Minerva because, for me, they are virtually two different goddesses.
What do you like most about Athena?
And thanks for watching and commenting! Glad you enjoyed it.
@@TinyEpics What I like most about Athena? A lot of stuff lol, but i'll said the fact that she is a strong and powerful goddess. she is brave, wise and at the same time delicate and skillful with her needle as well with her spear.
Subscribed because you mentioned Ovid telling the priestess story. Thank you for that!
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Athena’s Owl 1:00
Athena’s Aegis 1:36
Athena and Medusa 2:49
Athena’s Birth 4:17
Founding of Athens 5:15
Judgement of Paris 6:29
Trojan War (Odysseus) 8:21
Trojan War (Cassandra) 9:49
Thank You.
My pleasure!
Athena and Medusa is my favorite ovids take on it is so interesting and even though he was a Roman poet I still consider it a Greek mythology story. The fact that Athena cursed her fits with the depiction of all the Greek gods since they were described as imperfect and cursing someone because they were assaulted is definitely imperfect also since she is the goddess of wisdom it adds another layer to it
Which film was the very first clip taken from?
That’s from Tarsem Singh’s “Immortals”.
Athena is the ICON of Greeck History, . . . To make it short, . . .
She made quite an impact on the Greek mind, that’s for sure!!!
I always like Greek mythology! Had it at school! So really thank you much!
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.
One of the reasons I made this video is because I feel Athena is often unfairly characterized as cruel, petty and heartless. Although she can be incredibly tough, I don’t think it’s true that she’s unfeeling. I feel a lot of the bad rap comes from Ovid’s story of Medusa. What are your thoughts on this?
I always feel like it as well.
Specially because the Aracne and the Medusa myths are Roman's so that wasn't the Athena the Greeks worshiped
@@kitanaedenian2575 Exactly. And as far as I know Ovid detested the gods and purposefully characterized them as poorly as possible to help inspire the Roman people to distrust the gods and rely on themselves more. Super interesting, as the secular world began to supplant the pious one. I can see things from both perspectives, but I personally have a sense of respect for the Greek deities and their depth of symbolism which was perhaps inherited from worship dating back to the Paleolithic era (according to archaeologist Marija Gimbutas and others).
All that said, ancient Greek culture and of course their myths contain their fair share of misogyny and other problematic topics. But I think there has been an agenda for the last several millennia to demonize the female deities much more than the male deities.
There have been almost no efforts to show positive sides of greek deities. There have been no stories of Zeus blessing someone or freeing them from theit torment. In most of the myths the deities either act in their own way and don't care about mortals who worshipped them or when they intervein in lives of mortals it's often for the bad. Then there are poets like Ovid who basically villainized these deities and helped the Christians to secure their ideology.
@@swapnilsonawane9874 From what I've read about Zeus I know he's not all, and only womanizer. Although I am not fond of him because that's the aspect most people would see when we think about him. I am sure Tiny Epics would do a video/s that will correct that. :)
I like your Athena video a lot. The points and stories about her you touched on gives an overview I can dive more into. It also points out certain things so details have now been pieced and clicked together. I now have a better understanding and view of Athena. Thank you!
I've always thought that some things do not add up with the Medusa story/ account. (As with many of myth accounts). There's a lot of blank space and things to do not quite connect. I usually then just understand that's where we as individuals and a culture speculate and read into it. In the end, the reading reflects more about the individual and culture. For me, the blank spaces will always be unknown, and therefore where theories and imaginations can run the wildest. Maybe that's part of the beauty of these myths.
I read a lot of supernatural and paranormal fiction adventure/romance stories and in many of them the Greek Gods will make appearances. I have at least a basic understanding on the main players, but lately I have found myself with more interest about the Gods. Problem is there is so much information out there about the topic, that trying to engage with it is just daunting. I do know the "For Dummies" series covers the topics (Mythology for Dummies).But Im loving that there are people you who have taken the time to put these videos together. There are several other creators doing similar educational videos, but I checked out the comments and it appears you receive high praise. So thanks my friend.
Thank you for your very kind and wonderful comment. I am so happy that you’re enjoying the videos!
Speak to the God's/Goddesses themselves. They are living Beings
love how you opened with Immortals. a very overlooked and underrated film, one of Tarsem Singh's best!
I also enjoyed the film and the costumes by the legendary Eiko Ishioka were incredible. Glad you liked it!
I AGREE!
Loved this video. Have Liked and Subscribed. Would love to watch more of your wonderfully made videos, which to be honest, is more of a treasure trove. Well done and best of luck!
What wonderful words to read! Thank you very much. Looking forward to bringing you more videos.
Absolutely beautiful work in this video. Thank you. You made this super clear and I love the sound of your voice.
Thanks so much for the very kind comment! So happy you enjoyed the video.
The color of the godness eyes is actually unclear. English speakers always said she's grey-eyed. BUT, _glaukos_ means "green" or "blue" with a notion of transparency, so _glaukopis_ should mean "green/blue eyes". The word itself comes from the marine deity Glaukos. I've always learnt that Athena has an undefinite color of eyes, however it seems that her eyes are closer to blue-green. In french, Athena is sometimes called _la déesse aux yeux pers_ ( _pers_ eyed goddess) which is an unknow color nowadays. The color is somewhere between blue and green but grey is between black and white.
Thanks for your insightful comment!
I think the famous translation “grey-eyed goddess” was used to try and describe an unusual, indeterminate quality of Athena’s eyes where the color, like a mirror, reflects and changes depending on the environment around her as well as her particular temperament. Rather like the sea.
I also like the use of the word “flashing” to describe her eyes. Reminds me of polished bronze catching the light, like the Aegis she carries.
Madeline Miller chose to describe Athena using a very cold, grey and steely palette in her novel “Circe”. Wow. Athena comes off frightening in that book!
Interesting to hear about the word “pers” to describe an unknown color!
@@TinyEpics Unknown nowadays. It comes from Homer's Odysseus and seems to be linked to Persia and an ancient tincture color.
It is powerful feminine energies that has been put in human legends for us to understand how some higher forces, perhaps Venusian forces, work. She sees what really takes place. She understands the games people play and knows the innocent. It's getting involved that sometimes puts her image at stake. You have to unravel the wisdom of her actions as it reflects how different energies in other realms work and helps to understand what's at stake. She is of Venus and is very compassionate.
Thank you for your very interesting comments about the Athena video!
As a Spartan with a huge Athena tattoo in full armory, I say congrats about this video. Greetings from the Hellenic Republic.
Thanks so much and warm greetings to you from my studio in Germany.
@@TinyEpics Frohe Weihnachten fur alles im Deutschland. Achtung mit diese scheisse, Coronavirus...
Atana (Athene) is originally a Minoan Cretan goddess, not a warrior but protector of the home and hearth.
Indeed, and I find it interesting how she became warlike later on. Though there was a fragment from a Bronze Age fresco found showing a goddess wearing a boar’s tusk helmet and holding a griffin. I originally mentioned Athena and her possible connection to Potnia Theron, too, but I think I’ll save that for another video.
Wanted to keep the focus here on archaic-classical Greek and Roman depictions of her in this one.
@@TinyEpics Athena taking on War/Martial stylings and patronages I suspect was a result of Athens needing to convey a sense of powerful militarism to potential threats like the Spartans who were not only highly militaristic, they were extremely patriarchal. Athenian society was no less patriarchal but they wanted to not only assert their intellectual superiority over Sparta and Thebes, there wanted to establish and be seen as not only militaristically capable of defending themselves but that this defense was sanctified presided over by the Goddess of War herself. The city might have been named for a female deity but there was to be no mistake, that this was no ordinary Goddess, and she was not subject to the typical whims the female sex. If you want war with Athens then you will be challenging the Goddess who divined the concept into existence, and you're going to lose.
yeah, her 'warrior' aspect is really about Defense of the Polis, or People protecting each other as a community. It's not Martial.
Her Wisdom is the genius that blooms from people sharing ideas as a community.
She is Goddess of Polis. Of mankind coming together.
@@Lu11abi Well-said! I love the myth about Athenians voting to choose the city's patron deity between Earthshaker Poseidon and Athena. The people's concern for each is "what can you do for us," so Poseidon causes an earthquake, but Athena bestows the olive tree and its husbandry. Winner, Athena!
@@37Dionysos 🥰 Thanks, Dionysos! (That's my Dude, btw, the Son of Seleme! 😉🍇🍷 Via Ecstasis!) (Latin, I know, no offense Greek speakers...) I literally praise and contemplaTe Athena every time I eat an olive! And I eat a bunch of olives...
I feel like I just tanked the iq average displayed in this comment's thread with my vapid reply, ha ha, but that myth brings me this joy!
Just adding on some of the story of Medusa and Athena I've read. Venus(can't spell Greek names lol ) put a love/lust spell on Neptune .to prove something or other to other gods and goddess . Can't remember why the real reason was. The other story is she changed Medusa to protect herself from men and took her head as respect and put it on her sheld. Can't remember which is Greek or roman. You might know. Like Hindu. There are different storys of God and goddess from different regions. We just get the popular ones. Good show.👍
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The Odyssey was a good miniseries. Armand Assante as Odysseus, Isabella Rossellini as Athena.
Agreed! I loved that miniseries as a teenager. I remember collecting the TV Guide with it on the cover 😉
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Somehow I must watch that again
Thank you so much for these stories . So many of us really love and Revere the old ways and the love and care you give to telling these tales are truly inspiring . From the bottom of my heart thank you .
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Thanks for shedding this light upon the mysteries
My pleasure! Thank you for watching and commenting 😊
I officially welcome myself in this tiny corner you have created in the world of the internet! I hope this tiny corner of yours grows far and wide! Loved the content, loved your voice, and oh, oh did I mention I love your voice!?!
Anyways all the very best!! you do an amazing job!!
I officially welcome you here too! So glad you enjoy the content and I’m flattered by your kind and encouraging words. Looking forward to bringing you fresh content.
@@TinyEpics Thank you for such a Kind welcome. Glad to be here!! And can't wait to see what will you be gifting us next with!!
As someone who considers themselves the daughter of Athena, it fills me with joy to see you use her proper name spelling, and I look forward to your inclusive perspectives. Pallas Athena and I have a deep connection and communicate when necessary. I urge to explore her story further, as she fled to lower Egypt [ Neith ] eventually and created her Monarchy, and brought her serpent son [Sobek] to help rule over the people and places of worship just like in Greece.
as already stated by another viewer what a exquisitely edited short informational info jam-packed with information known and widely unknown.
with you being so fond of Athena I was wondering if you had also had the pleasure of working with, communicating, or being visited by her? I'm always seeking new perspectives and information, but cant commit to my curiosities full-time. I've got a homestead to raise.
Thank you for creating content that makes it easier for people to be exposed to the truth of these earlier, energy beings, and I look forward to more content on Athena. With the parallels in mind, there's plenty in content on her serpent son King. Again, thank you.
Thank you so much for your very thoughtful commentary. I will definitely look deeper into Athena and create more videos for you to enjoy. While reading the Homeric epics in high school I felt the strongest connection to Athena and she’s remained an inspiration throughout my life.
I didn’t know that about her fleeing to Egypt. How fascinating! Is this from a particular poet’s account?
Wishing you all the very best.
I took a quiz and my results came out as Daughter of Athena
@@TinyEpics there is a myth that states when Olympus was attacked the different gods took animal forms and fled to Egypt. It is based around how Capricorn was created but idk the name
Really enjoyed this!
So happy to hear that! Thanks for watching.
And this does even touch what happened with Arachne. I can’t wait to see more, but in the mean time let me browse your collection for mor content. 👍
I have bookmarked your suggestion and will plan to cover the story of Athena and Arachne at a later date. Thanks!
Superb video! Thank you very much!
Athena is the Biblical Shekinah. She is related to in the Bible as 'daughter of God Most High who was with Him at the Creation of the Cosmos,' and is specifically addressed by David in Psalms. Which is why in Eastern Churches there is a 'Saint Sophia' and the 'Hagia Sofia.' Sophia = Wisdom. She is physically embodied - or physically manifest - in various identities in Biblical accounts as 'Sarah' or 'Zara.'
This was incredible! I just subbed in the hope that there is a video like this about Hera sometime soon;-D
Yes! A video for Hera is on its way. Probably sometime late this fall or early winter. Stay tuned :-)
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Who is that girl in the thumbnail please tell me her name please I beg you
@@ehanhasan6386 Isabel Lucas is the actress who played Athena in the 2011 movie Immortals.
One little correction. Athens wasn't without name before the competition of Athena and Poseidon, it was known as Cecropia (in the myth) from the King Cecrops. Keep on the good work💕
This was very very informative. Thank You ! !
And thank you for watching. I am glad you got something out of it 😊
Athena is not only the patron goddess of the city of Athens but to the whole of Greece! All Greeks should have the greatest respect for her and pay their homage to her!
Then who is zeus ?
@@jagannathveling4823 Zeus takes care of all the people in the world. In the Trojan war Zeus was on the side of the Trojans.
I loved the video! Well done
A lot of people believe that these so called Olympics gods where not myths at all. They where the first offspring of the watchers men of renoun. A race that lived before the deluge. There names remain among us until now. Its food for thought. Think and ponder on the subject matter any way you care to.
It is likely most gods started as actual people who became heroes and then gods.
Still, many pagan gods have a Proto-Indo-European origin, so they may be as ancient as 10,000 old.
I prefer the Jung's theory of Archetypes. We humans give labels to those archetypes and those labels used to be gods. Now, they are parties and whole ideologies.
ths silly thinking.
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I see her as beauty, wisdom and manipulate being, also an alien from another world. She can control our minds. =)
Interesting! Thanks for your comment about Athena!
I find this video very informative and enjoyable. I saved it to my RUclips channel playlists.
So happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for your comment! Welcome to the channel, and please be sure to check out some of the other videos in my Olympian Gods playlist:
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Greek Mythology interwoven with history has always been interesting, however it’s all speculation.
I do think WW was possibly inspired from Athena because it was the ancient Greeks that referred to Goddess’ more than other civilizations.
You are brilliant man! I love your work!
Thanks so much for your very kind words!
Named my cat Athena. She definitely is the goddess of war and wisdom. Smart and chaotic.
😻❤️ What a perfect name for a cat!
@@TinyEpics hehehhe thanks!!!
Would you be willing to do a Medusa video? I already know a lot about her because I have this book that goes over how people have viewed her in different times called Medusa in the mirror of Time and even though I don’t believe she exist I still love learning about her and other Greek figures
Yes, absolutely! I would love to make a video just about her and try to see things from her perspective. Hopefully in the next months!
And thanks so much for your suggestion!
@@TinyEpics yeah your welcome
Love Athena ❤️
Me too! Do you have a favorite aspect or myth related to Athena?
I love her too.
Im gonna make a altar to worship her soon☺
This video is a good classics primer.
Athena is the only goddess that cared more about humanity, and her participation in the Trojan War is her revenge against Posideon for defiling her priestess, Medusa, and her temple. She could not go up against one of the original triumvate ( her father Zeus, and Her uncles Posideon and Hades ) openly and had to do so undercover with her champion odysseus. Note that Athena is not a vain goddess, but she can be prideful because she can be rightfully so. I believe her participation in the contest for beauty (which she is most eligible because wisdom is beautiful as it is the most craftful thought and consideration that brings forth the best solutions and actions) but she did not participate for physical beauty per se, rather, she is in on the action and scheme and bigger themes about the big issues of the End of the Age of the Gods, And is playing along to further the agenda of saving all Creation by a transition to beyond the Age Of Heroes ( in her unique way in her own dominion and influence) remember, Zeus WISELY said no to the judging and gave it to Paris, of all people, a Trojan prince. Furthermore, Her episode with Arachne the Weaver (is the only other outburst for her because she punished Arachne for her hubris for challenging her the title of the best Weaver ( although, it was the ungrateful villagers that forced the poor girl to go toe to toe with Athena. The goddess did not kill Arachne, because the poor girl hanged herself, it was Athena who felt pity and some culpability, so she ressurected her as a spider, so Arachne can do what she does best and loved to do, forever). Know that Athena did not punish Arachne for being a better weaver, but rather punish her for being foolish and being swayed by the villagers into the competition. And she never laid a finger on Arachne. Arachne killed herself. In order to appreciate Athena, we really must study her actions and her motivation as an embodiment of Wisdom, a mostly human quality, before we malign her for being tempermental, which is an utter opposite frame of mind from cool and level_headness that bespeaks wisdom. IO! IO! HAIL Athena Erganê!! HAIL Athena Ellênia!!
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I enjoyed reading this.
@@TinyEpics thanks for the feedback. i loved the greek mythos, and i enjoyed watching your videos, i have hit subscribed, and would love to see you do one on Arachne and Athena someday!
@@kw271 A very warm welcome to you. Glad you subscribed! I will put your request on my list for upcoming videos.
@@michaeltrinta7207 that is a general reading -- but you are imposing a 20th century feminist reading to an ancient story. so, i am sorry to say that your reading and understanding is Anachronistic. If you are a feminist theorist, you need to also read an essay by Helene Cixious on the Medusa -- and also understand the relationship between God amd Priest. The rule stipulates chastity no matter what happens, like Cassandra and Apollo -- which is another case study -- so you need to read it as a deeper mystery to the relationship between a priestess and a god. Furthermore, as Godly hierarchy goes as i mentioned before, the original triumvate is hard to go against, and Posideon have an ongoing feud with Athena over the Patronage of Athens -- so you need to understand the backstory of their "tit for tat" games, so another reading is that Posideon ravished Medusa to get back at Athena for taking away Athens from him . Now, you also need to consider Medusa as possibly a Gorgon ( more obscure myths said that there are 3 sisters, of which Medusa is one. Non-human priestesses and priests are common also); so we wondered if she was human standards beautiful or otherwise to begin with or as a form of unfoldment of Medusa's nature -- but one thing we do know that as a monster, she is formidable, and her power resides in her stare/ eye and head/ caput -- which is a place where wisdom or thought resides, and Athena is also associated with sight/ perspective ( her eyes are storm grey) , so -- when Medusa's head is absorbed into Athena's Aegis, we must understand symbolism and that her favourite priestess will be by her side- literally-- forever, serving Athena. When you read of misadventures of mortal beings with gods, the humans tend to be distilled into the very essence of their being and nature, and at that point united with their chosen patron deity's "godhead". So, when we consider that godhood is not easily or freely given, the closest these loyal servants and priests and lovers would get is to be transformed into something else that would last forever. You need to learn not to see Medusa's fate as an injustice and failure-- her fate us avenged by the destruction of Posideon's favourite city, Troy, by Athena through her champion, wily Odysseus ( and Posideon, later made Odysseus' life hell -- 7rs at sea in the Odyssey, to get back at Athena). To basically use 2nd wave feminism critical theory to sledgehammer something so nuanced as an ancient myth that has survived millennia is not only a lapse of perspective, but also a reminder for us to require abit of patience and wisdom to meaningfully unpack.
Wow wonderful comment and great perspective. 👍
Just found your channel and already enjoying it. Great work!! 👍
Thank you so much! That makes me so happy to read. Looking forward to bringing you more content!
Great video of the Greek goddess. But as for her story with Medusa, since it was told by a Roman, isn't it basically propaganda since the Romans are said to be decendants of Aeneas, a Trojan? Thanks.
Thanks a lot! That’s a very interesting observation. Ovid was not a fan of the gods in general, regardless of their allegiance to Greeks or Trojans.
He wanted the Romans to leave behind their dependence on the gods and rely on themselves instead. In a way, Ovid poked fun at the gods in order to show that they were just as jealous and revengeful as humans… but even worse!
So yes, it was anti-gods propaganda in general.
An ancient Greek writer, take Hesiod for instance, was pious and showed great respect for the gods in their work.
@@TinyEpics thanks for your reply. Very interesting. 'Will be watching your videos.
Athena was a real beauty!
Athena's 'wisdom' - first master our emotions. Then Rational clear and higher mind.
Anyone can be angry at anything. Look at history of past warfare's. Getting angry is easy. However, knowing when, where and how we chose our battles, wisely... is the greater task.
Anyone who has this wisdom (emotional intelligence) has Athena's real gifts bestowed upon them.
Thank you for sharing this. ✨🙏🏻
Thank you for watching and for your thoughtful comment! 😊
Liked. Subscribed. Loved it!
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I can't wait for a video about Hades.
Me too! It will definitely happen eventually. Dionysus and Apollo are up first, then Hades next.
Saima
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great vid- learned alot
Athena : I'm the Goddess of Wisdom and always one step of ahead.
And also Athena...
Athena : What have you done!? That power was meant for me! They didn't know what to do with the power!!??
I think I got the point...
It makes sense that the Romans would change the stories about Athena. The Romans considered themselves descendants of Troy, and Athena fought against them. This was their way of getting revenge on her. Demoting her role and demonizing her actions while at the same time Promoting her bitter rival Ares.
Oh interesting. I never thought of it like that before. Makes sense, although Ovid was quite secular and really didn’t like the gods so he was on a campaign to make them all appear shallow, petty and cruel.
And also very true how the Romans loved and celebrated Ares as Mars and the Greeks basically saw Ares as a big loser…
>medusa violated by poseidon at athena's temple
>athena punished medusa
Ha!!! God level logic...
I heard a version of the contest between possidon and Minerva to name the city , where possidon strikes the ground with his trident and a white horse appears. In your version he touches the ground with his spear and a spring appears.
Yes, I read this version too. I wonder which is the older story… 🤔
Not sure but is on story Greek and one story Roman?
I met her when I was 13 at the Temple of Delphi.
How was she ? Are the real God's returning?
@@Jia20046 I told her I did not believe in " gods" and She told me it did not matter. She. Said it is the gods that have faith. They have faith in heroes.
@@shadowforger2035 thank you sir...for telling me about the goddess Athena.
She must be one of a kind beauty !
Did you summon her ...how was the experience? I
Will Zeus and Greek gods ever show this generation that they exist...or remain as myth for others
Wish you happy and amazing life..
Hail Athena!
@@Jia20046 The World is very mystical - seek truth and it will find you. Blessings to you as well.
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Athena was strategic but as all it failed in the changes of surprise. One tiny detail can unleash a chain reaction that possibly she didn’t count off.
It was that Greek Pantheon were not Gods and people started to be self aware.
Didn't surprise me. Her birth was badass, to begin with. 😉😁
Right? I mean I love how she just popped out fully formed with her shiny armor ready for battle! It’s said that even Hera, who is very difficult to impress, stopped in awe to witness the birth.
@@TinyEpics True! To stop Hera on her tracks because you were born and what you wore on your birth moment, you are one badass goddess! 😁
Another good one... 🌟 I think I've watched all your videos at least twice now 😂 so I'm definitely looking forward to more awesome content! 😊🙂
Your comments are so kind and mean a lot to me. Thanks very much! New videos are on the way after my summer pause is over.
@@TinyEpics Can't wait! ✨ Will definitely be tuning in... 😊🙂
She's my favorite Goddess. She's Beautiful.
Jealousy can blind even the wisest woman
..and to think I already knew most of this thanks to a game - Immortals Fenyx Rising . Never thought about the effort some game creators put in until this video . Wow .
I haven’t heard of Fenix before. Thanks for commenting.
Superb production. World-class.
What a wonderful compliment to receive! Thank you very much.
Medusa is the only human that make goddess athena envy in terms of beauty.
greek gods were trynants and authoritarian A-holes. much different from Asian gods who has proven to be virtuous and honor bound. even Indian Goddess Khali, the goddess of death and rebirth, has a strict code for bandits and sociopaths to never harm women, elderly and children.
@@communistpunk8044 Oh? You knew them personally? Lol
You know what you read in books. Written by MAN. Let’s not act like anyone truly knew the Gods.
Soooo…Athena, protector of humanity and innocence, turned Medusa into a monster because she got r*ped by a God? That makes sense to you? Because a man said it is so and wrote it down? Not that maybe Medusa was perhaps already a Gorgon and tried to hide in Athena’s temple to defile it? Or….maybe it never happened at all? Or maybe Medusa asked to be turned into a Gorgon so that the Gods would leave her alone? I mean…there are so many other alternative situations that could occur, but you automatically believe that one of the most beautiful and beloved Goddesses was jealous of a maiden who was violated by a God Athena had beef with?
Lol! Okaaayy👌🏼
Because the patriarchy told all the stories of the past with full and complete honesty. 😉
@@ixchelskyfeather2513 i heard she was once defeated in a Weaving contest, fair and square. instead of admitting defeat or gave a reward to the talented woman who was loved by her village, Athena turn her into a spider, weaving forever.
@@communistpunk8044 again…you are just repeating myths written by men during a patriarchal society. Did it ever occur to you that these stories were meant to taint her reputation as the “right hand” of Zeus? Do you really think that the men of that time thought that was Her place? I’m just asking you to think beyond the written text and use your discernment and critical thinking skills.
Great detail loved the presentation.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
And so Paris followed his ... heart and chose Aphrodite's offer 7:50
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Paris était un lâche qui a déshonoré Illion, et cause la perte des Troyens.
Wonderful video, dynamic, instructive. Too short. 😁 Subscribed.
Athena is still alive and she had something to do with the conflicts that has occurred
I loved this! If you havent already, could u make one on Iris? I barely see any videos involving her and I would really like to learn more about her.
I would love to! I added it to my list of upcoming videos. Thanks for your feedback 😊
This world was so much more interesting when paganism was practiced.
Paganism is still practiced today, they’re just a minority now.
@Barry Iaconelli I'm really, REALLY old!
@MortalGamerDC1 85 If you come from a family that has ever 'given thanks' af the dinner table then, congratulations, your meal is a contemporary sacrifice.
@MortalGamerDC1 85 ESPECIALLY Thanksgiving. If you think otherwise, you misunderstand pagan sacrifice. It was literally no different than any big holiday dinner we might enjoy today... Just the food was weird, and the names of the gods were different.
Can you do one on Ganymede, cupbearer of the gods and Zeus’s male lover.
Thanks for your suggestion! I will certainly add it to my growing list 😊