Can you guys do an episode on Mesopotamian mythology? The pantheon isn't as well-known but it's super fascinating. Love this channel and I can't wait to see what you guys have in store.
And the old Welsh gods! There's so much nonsense written about them by people who know nothing about Wales that having an influential channel such as you setting the record straight would be huge
Luzon alone and Mindanao alone has lots depending on the ethnic group! Wish we could have many reliable and tangible sources though, our past is too misty; too near yet too far, to actually know if our knowledge of our mythologies are real-- regarding precolonial Christianized or Islamicized groups at least
Agreed there's a variety of pantheons and stories to choose from in Philippine mythology tho its just difficult to find reliable sources about the myths
Well Greek mythology is very well documented due to the fact they played a major role in historical influence. Same for Roman, Egyptian, and Middle Eastern. Mythology from the Vikings, Native America, and Southern African is poorly understood due to the label they were given at that time “Heathens/savages”. They rarely documented their beliefs and were commonly forced to convert. Not to say they didn’t play significant roles in history, but due to their beliefs they were often hated by larger civilizations. That’s why mythologies outside of Roman, Egyptian, and Greek isn’t discussed as much. Although, I am interested in learning what smaller civilizations believed in. Many aspects of which occasionally correlates with the beliefs in larger civilizations.
This was a really cool overview of the fates and i really like the end of bringing up how there are similar figures across cultures! the animation is really awesome too and i cant wait to see more!
@@lyndsaybrown8471 Well for the Three fates in the Norse pantheon it COULD be related to a common Indo European root. Ala Dyauspiter in the Vedas (A sky father god), Iupiter (Jupiter from Rome), Zeus pater (Greek), Papaios (Scythian), Tiyaz Papaz (Anatolia), Tiwaz (Germanic, Gothic for Tyr) Tuesday.
That would be cool, would love to learn about the cultures that were here before European settlements (Texas history didn’t go over it much, and nether did us history, other than the main tribes, their location, and their relationship with settlers, and battles/events they were involved in)
Chinese mythology might be an interesting topic. You could maybe how some mortal humans were elevated to god status like Guan Yu or Mazu. Maybe you could also talk about mixing between Buddhism and native Taoist and Confucian beliefs.
Once Buddhism arrived in China from India the Buddha became the most powerful being in China he completely surpassed the Jade emperor whether it is power or authority
I love this new series! My two favorite goddesses, Hecate and Hel, both get so little love, so I would love an episode on either of them. Also, I'm fascinated by how the Celtic goddess Brigid shifted into a Catholic saint and then a Voodoo lwa. Those are my suggestions. :)
I loved it! So thrilled about this new show. I have a request: aztec (mexihca) mythology, more specifically the god with the most badass name of all, Tezcatlipoca (the Smoking Mirror), he who sees it all, lord of the night sky, magic, divination and a bunch of other attributes. Of course Quetzalcoatl, Huitzolopochtli and others can be interesting as well, but they're more the stereotypical macho heroes, whereas Tezcatlipoca is much more complex and intriguing.
@Kleine Vuurvlinder no comparing my culture to the Bible is an absolute joke considering what evangelicals did to my people and to most of culture and history of the America’s
@Kleine Vuurvlinder the fact your trying to apply a religion that doesn’t apply to me shows how ignorant you actually are, you didn’t have to fight for anything especially not for the rights any human being deserves, poc have been oppressed by many abrahamic religions, by “it is the written word”
So excited to see a new kind of video from Storied; love the new host! Great animations! The style is reminiscent of the kind of picture books that were read to me as a kid.
I just love this whole family of PBS YT shows. I watch them every time they drop. While I'm middle aged, have been into mythology, folklore, fantasy, religion, etc. for decades and already know most of this I really enjoy the presentation. It often spurns me to reread and research again, just for fun. All of this fascinating stuff fuels my visual art, and always has. Thanks for existing, PBS, in all of your forms.
Considering how misogynistic most Greek cultures & city states were, I always find Nyx & the Fates as extremely interesting in that context. Religions/Mythologies that I would be interested in would be: Nubian, Akan, & Yoruba.
@@Vor567tez Archeologist say Minoan Greece it is possible Women and Bulls were worshipped. In the later Mycenaean Greece they believe Poseidon was top God and King of the Underworld. With Poseidon, Demeter, and Persephone being worshipped.
@@Ghostlyking-tc3vu Well to be honest the Yoruba religion is still going strong, especially in Latin American countries, as denominations of Santeria, Candomble, & Lukumi etc. It’s a global religion. And with all due respect as an African-American, you should give your people more credit, there’s nothing wrong with tribal societies. But your peoples of the Yoruba (which make up the ancestry of so many peoples of the African-ChattelEnslaved-Diaspora, in the Americas. Like the Akan) are not a “tribe”. Your people are city-state & empire builders. Calling the Yoruba, Akan or Nubians, a “tribe”, would be like calling the Chinese, Egyptians, or French a tribe. I especially love Yoruba swords like the Ada & Ida, & Yoruba architecture like the Oba & Ooni palaces. Cheers brotha!
This was a very good first episode! I liked both the host and the accompanying animations. Personally, my favorite story of oracles and The Fates is the one where some guy is told he'll die in the ocean, so he stays on land all his life, only to die in an orchard called Ocean. Absolutely uncalled for by the Fates but quite funny.
@@gwendolyn2001 Well, I learned it in my college world religions class, but I also can't find it when I google it. Maybe I've misremembered a detail or it was taught to me inaccurately.
Never heard about the Fates being personally involved with Hades and Persephone like that. There really is alot of different variotions of that story. And funnily enough, the oldest versions of it are actually the happiest, with Persephone actually loving Hades and being queen of the underworld, while later ones have Persephone being unhappy about it all. It's even weirder when we consider her pre-greek origin that already establish her as an underworld goddess, while Hades seemingly appears out of nowhere as greek mythology as we know it came to be, meaning Persephone has a much longer history as an underwold deity than Hades does. Edit: Here is a good video by Overly Sarcastic Productions for those who are interested. ruclips.net/video/Ac5ksZTvZN8/видео.html
Can you provide sources? I can't find any old versions that say she was happy. Homer says "[Demeter's] trim-ankled daughter whom Aidoneus [Haides] rapt away, given to him by all-seeing Zeus the loud-thunderer." and Hesiod says "He [Zeus] came to the bed of all-nourishing Demeter, and she bare white-armed Persephone whom Aidoneus [Haides] carried off from her mother; but wise Zeus gave her to him." And they are as old as you'll get
@@lior1299 The actual kidnapping and her happiness is kind of unrelated. If we look at it with historical context, women had practically no rights and the poses to symbolise kidnapping and marriage on Greek art were the same. So we can deduce that this wasn't too unusual, especially for the gods. Plus Homer's poem outlined Zeus as the antagonist so I don't think the intention was to frame the relationship as necessarily bad, though different retellings and sources differ. I think OSP made a decent video about this, I definitely recommend it, even if it's a little liberal on interpretation.
@@generalgrievous6689 I don't know.. I'm not convinced. That isn't anything to say she was happy as much as she was unhappy. Saying it was the norm, doesn't say she was happy. Zeus wasn't considered an antagonist, he just did what fathers did at the time and married his daughter off. But I, the ancient Greeks, and even you probably should admit that abduction is a no no, right? (and its all symbolic) Also, tricking your love interest into staying around by eating a pomegranate wouldn't be necessary if this was okay by her. You can say that it may have started on the wrong foot, but it got better... But still, what ancient, 'older' sources speak to this? You can even point out that she has sway over Hades in stories such as Herakles' 12th task, or Orpheus' plea for his wife, but these are later stories (Diodorus Siculus and the like, 1st Century BC) and in that case I can bring her infatuation with Adonis, which would be considered infidelity (for women).
@@lior1299 Idk. If we just take a look at the Canon as a whole, as you said, it would seem that even if the start wasn't great, the end result wasn't that bad. She has sway with him (and shares power which would have been uncommon for women) in some stories and at the very least they seem functional (compared to the other gods). The story was used to explain the seasonal cycle, so it would make sense these characters would play a role in this. Spring is sealed away and winter would cause death back then so it makes sense the god of the underworld was involved. It's also uncommon to hear myths/stories about the underworld, so it makes sense that we hear very little about their relationship. I guess it's up to personal interpretation becuase the original script was torn and the physical art representing it was limited. Earlier sources were from cults and they were very secretive, so it's impossible to trace these myths back any further then we already have.
I have 3 ideas for videos: 1. Ra, and why he was so important compared to other Egyptian gods 2. A video on Loki, maybe comparing the mythological version to the Marvel version 3. Something involving Tlingit mythology
I would love to see some Tlingilt mythology properly presented. I find it interesting that Tom Hiddleston looks more like Loki from the myths when he isn't dressed up to play Marvel Loki. Ra is a pretty big subject. Good choice.
Raven bringing the sun is a big one here in Alaska. A general one I would love to see is about the fables about famous mountains. Mountains have great origin stories.
Great first episode, very informative! And if y’all are asking for requests- I have always wanted to know more about the Scandinavian witch called Lussi Long-Night. She’s linked (maybe syncretized?) with Saint Lucia, and leads the wild hunt come December
This channel is great, I wish PBS didn't have so many different channels and instead pulled all their shows within one or at least listed all of them, it took me this long to find this awesome channel.
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! So well explained, easy to understand, good overview, good pace, rich with examples and evidence. And even mentions other culture's takes on the same concept. I felt like I gained so much knowledge. I've been looking for something like this for so long. I've been wanting to understand Greek and Norse mythology better but I've just been too lazy to read.
This was fabulous! So glad for this new addition to the Storied family. My own personal favorite depiction of the Fates in fiction are from Lloyd Alexander’s Prydain Chronicles, in the form(s) of the unsettling, unnerving, disorienting (but entertaining in their own fashion) marsh-dwelling trio Orddu, Orwen and Orgoch.
I will have to go take a look at those - but my own favorite fictional Fates are from Piers Anthony's Immortality series. One woman ends up being (at various points) every Fate, and it's just fascinating the way he plays with the concepts and subverts some of them while doubling down on others. And of course the humorous side of it is a big part of what I enjoy too!
I do love the Incarnations of Immortality. You might, if you enjoy comics, want to check out The Wicked + The Divine. My favorite depiction of the Norns is in there. Actually the whole premise is rather interesting.
I would love to see videos about practically any lesser-known mythologies. There are a lot of videos and resources for Greek and Norse Mythology, but very little about anything else.
This is turning to be one of my favorite series so far. I would really like for you guys to cover about the various Filipino Pantheon depending on their regional origin. Hoping for more enthralling stories for you to tell.
In LOTR, Galadriel tells Sam that things seen in the Mirror sometimes never come to pass "unless those who see turn aside to prevent them". Great first episode--I look forward to a deep dive in mythology!
What do you think of the new LotR series on A Prime about Galadriel and the Second Age? It seems they are having a bit of trouble getting a director to stick around, maybe the Fates have discouraged tinkering with Tolkien's world.
Absolutely loved this first episode, as I knew I would. So looking forwards to this series! I'd love it if you could do an episode on Suomenusko (or other Finnic mythology) ☺️
I've struggled finding any information on Basque Mythology. I know a lot has been lost, but I'm yearning for a well researched video essay on what we do know!
OO! That would be so awesome! There's a Basque poem-turned-song called "Gaur Akelarre". It might be an interesting read and listen for you. It's about a coven gathering to celebrate and ward of the Basque demon the Intxixu ["in-she-shoo"]. It was really fun learning this fast paced song for my high shcool chior and learning how to pronounce words in the Basque languague!
Is there a possiblity you guys could cover a lot of Slavic myths in the near future? I've been hearing about the Slavic myths, specifically of the Rusalka and of Prince Ivan and Koschey the Immortal a lot lately in my mythology dives, but never getting a lot about the Rusalka, much backstory for Koschey, or hearing about any other Slavic myths. (Loved the Leshy ep, Dr. Z!)
This is amazing, I've been waiting for a channel like this for forever! I'd love to see an episode on *Astarte/Ishtar/Inanna* about their similarities with each other and influences on later goddesses. An episode on *Anansi* from west African folklore would be amazing too.
9:18 The Korean Jeju goddess(more like just a spirit) is actually pronounced: Ga-mun-jang-agi (The Gamunjang part means "clay pot" and the last Agi part means baby). As the spirit of fortune she blessed her own house with riches and when her unknowing parents asked their children "Why do you think we are so blessed?", her two humble sisters(named silver pot and bronze pot) answered "It's because we have great parents" but "Claypot" answered "Its cuz of me!" Infuriated by her impudence, the parents ran her out of the house but then sent her sisters to bring her back. However, "Claypot" was so angry that she turned her sisters into rare mushrooms and caused her parents to slip and become blinded and eventually poor. She later repents her actions after meeting a kind man that gave the best parts of any food to his parents and older brothers only taking the barely edible crumbs for himself. She rewards the kind man with gold and marries him but learns that she cannot undo her own angery actions. She holds a feast for all the towns people providing food and drinks to the poor where she meets a old couple dressed in rags. She cries when realizing that these are her parents and a miracle happens undoing the harm she had done to her family. source: namu.wiki/w/%EA%B0%90%EC%9D%80%EC%9E%A5%EC%95%84%EA%B8%B0
We've looking into entities surrounding sleep and dreaming, and a lot of the stuff that pops up is about nightmares and sleep paralysis, but we'd be interested in learning about more general sleep/dream mythology.
How does this channel get even better every time they add an new show? And im very happy about the topic of this first episode. The Fates are super interesting but rarely ever talked about!
I'm looking forward to seeing more of this series! I would be interested in learning more about Koschei the Undying from Slavic mythology, and of kitsune from East Asian mythology. (If either of those would be better covered in Monstrum, then I'd love to hear about them there.)
I also concur! Someone who was raised to the status of Goddess of Fate, and Jeju has such a rich history that in turn would influence its myths in stunning ways - my linguist-anthro heart is desperate for more
I'd really like to see an episode about the japanese sun goddess amaterasu . Though I'm not Japanese myself, I'm very interested in Japanese folklore and mythology .
I would love to see a deep dive of weaving in mythology. The fates are just one example. Because cloth, weaving, and braiding are fundamental to most human cultures. It's where a lot of us began.
After I discovered Monstrum I didn't think this channel could get any better... But now it did... Now I got two series I will totally freak out to be able to watch a New Video... I think a "thank you" is appropriate for that... I would really love to hear more about egyptian mythology or even norse! And everything east of Europe would be pretty neat! To this point I kinda know a lot about greek mythology and I hate, that I lack every other, cause mythology is just sooooooooo interesting! It kinda shows you how the people of ancient times tried to explain what happened to them! And the stories are just really nice~
I would like to see episodes on how different mythologys relate to each other and inspire each other like how if you follow the etymology of the Norse god Tyr it's related to the Greek got Zeus. It shows how vastly different cultures are connected to each other.
hadestwon was the first time I'd ever heard of the fates! it was really cool how the fates pushed the narrative along at key points and became more obviously important at every step through the staging of the musical.
I love this channel so much that although I already know about Greek mythology I still watch this channel just in case I learn sth new.! Love from Greece !! 😍😃👏
I really enjoyed watching this video; it impressed me. The way the lady spoke and explained the interesting information about the fates of Greek mythology did change my idea of who the fates were and kept my full attention. I must admit that the video gives a sense of professionalism, great confidence and passion towards Greek Mythology. Thank you for sharing this video to everyone, keep up the good work!
Great new series, love the illustration style! Would love to hear about Aten and Akhenaten and the failed attempt to turn Egypt to monotheism (or just heliocentrism?). Also, just the deal with Mithraism in general.
My favourite incarnations of the Fates are those three children from Inception and the Witches of Morva, not to mention Shakespeare's own Weird Sisters and Terry Pratchett's take on them!
Stoked for this new series and great characters to start it off with!! Edit: Definitely want to hear more about the cats and their place in mythology. It would be awesome to see the show delve into mythologies and pantheons that aren't commonly known
Can we take a moment to appreciate Dr. Emily adoringly referred as "Dr. Z"? I am in full support of future episodes referring these ladies as Dr. Z and Dr. M. And yes, there is an *urgent need* to explain why cats are our eternal lords and masters.
Great video, I am love learning about all mythology and fables, but I would love more stories about non-European folklore and mythology. I'm most interested in stories from the Americas and Carribean.
I agree. The stories of our native peoples are sorely overlooked. It would be good to record them to ensure they are not lost. It would be best to ensure the people are not lost.
I would love to hear about the indo-European obsessions with bulls. Such an interesting link between all those different cultures. I wonder if there is a myth that they all share?
Would love to see a deep dive on The Three Graces of Greek/Roman Myth and/or an overview about the various Gods of Joy and Happiness from around the world. Either way, loved the episode and can't wait for more.
I agree with this. They are terrifying and mysterious and fascinating to hear about. Especially since even though they were violent, blood thirsty and malicious, they were not necessarily evil but we're in fact punishing agents of justice. I first heard of them being called "the Furies."
im interested in the proto-indo european archetype that even presents variants in Africa: the dichotomy between dragon-like creatures and thunder/storm deities. thor vs jormundgandr, zues vs typhon, etc. the african variant presents the thunder god in the epic of mwindo as blood brother to a dragon instead of foe. what does this relationship represent? what could the variations tell us about a culture's perceptions of nature/monsters?
@Kleine Vuurvlinder im not entirely sure to what you are referring, but i think Shiva's third eye and Zeus "birthing" Dionysus after incinerating his mortal mother might be what comes to mind. also thank you!
Chaos is much more powerful than the Fates. The Fates may have control over people's destinies, but Chaos simultaneously gave birth to existence, and is existence
I find the fates so amazing. Even if we Greeks have stopped practicing most of our polytheistic heritage many of us have a strong belief in fate and have many sayings on it. We still use the word Moira (μοίρα) to express our fate and the word moirazo(μοιράζω) witch means to share. Because even if thousands of years and religions have passed our history is still well and alive in our language and of course... Our fate 🌻
Literally everything. Please go over every single mythology and mythos. I need this in my life! Egyptian draws me but i know very little beyond "the mummy" and assassin's creed. Norse celtic druidic sumarian Azteca Japanese mongol Arabian i wanna know them all!
Just a minor correction: It wasn't Persephone who made the argument that 6 pomegranate seeds was too small an amount to condemn her, it was Demeter who made that argument. Persephone's opinion on the matter was not consulted by anyone in most versions of the story and the few that do have her give an opinion, she states a desire to remain with Hades, not that anyone seems to care about what she wants.
I would love to hear about ywo different things actually..... First, I'd love a closer look at Mesopotamian mythology. Second, if possible I'd like to hear more information about the Vily/Wily/Samodiva/Rusalka from South Slavic myth if possible please-- I'm actually trying to write a bit about this latter but have limited information so far. Thank you!
When i was studying romeo and julliet I remember hearing about them from my teacher, this provides so much more insight onto why they were mentioned. At the time my teacher just said it was a unique point to talk about and that if you were able to come up with a unique analysis about it in relation to the questions that end up coming up on the exam, then great and that if you don't think you can make use of it you can just forget about it as it will not help you.
Now, on the road to Hell, there was a railroad line; And there were three old women all dressed the same. And they were always singin' in the back of your mind; Everybody meet The Fates!
I did not expect to learn about a goddess of my own heritage(kameunjangagi-가매은장아기) from a video about greek myths. Great video, thanks for the cool information.
This was such a great video on the sisters of fate. I would love an episode on the Titanomachy, as well as one about how mythical creatures and figures were metaphors and allegories for concepts and ideas of how people can be. Keep up the great work, I know these myths inside and out and I loved this video!!
Can you guys do an episode on Mesopotamian mythology? The pantheon isn't as well-known but it's super fascinating. Love this channel and I can't wait to see what you guys have in store.
I would love to see that. Especially with their great animations
Oh yes! There is such a focus on Greek and Norse mythology, I'd love to see Ishtar and Tiamat etc get some well deserved attention.
Yes, please!
And the old Welsh gods! There's so much nonsense written about them by people who know nothing about Wales that having an influential channel such as you setting the record straight would be huge
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After playing SMT 5
Filipino mythology would be interesting. Each major island in the Philippines has their own mytholgy to tell.
Luzon alone and Mindanao alone has lots depending on the ethnic group! Wish we could have many reliable and tangible sources though, our past is too misty; too near yet too far, to actually know if our knowledge of our mythologies are real--
regarding precolonial Christianized or Islamicized groups at least
Agreed there's a variety of pantheons and stories to choose from in Philippine mythology tho its just difficult to find reliable sources about the myths
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Could you guys tell me about some? I'm filipino but grew up abroad any my parents never really taught me about filipino history or mythology
I would love to see some stories from African mythologies! They are despicalbly overlooked!
I second this! We get almost nothing from them in popular culture except Egypt and Voodoo, and the latter is usually not even of the African sort.
I'd be interested in that too. We learned a little bit at school but this was years ago so I don't remember the stories.
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Yes more videos on African, Native American and Middle Eastern Mythology
Well Greek mythology is very well documented due to the fact they played a major role in historical influence. Same for Roman, Egyptian, and Middle Eastern. Mythology from the Vikings, Native America, and Southern African is poorly understood due to the label they were given at that time “Heathens/savages”. They rarely documented their beliefs and were commonly forced to convert. Not to say they didn’t play significant roles in history, but due to their beliefs they were often hated by larger civilizations.
That’s why mythologies outside of Roman, Egyptian, and Greek isn’t discussed as much. Although, I am interested in learning what smaller civilizations believed in. Many aspects of which occasionally correlates with the beliefs in larger civilizations.
This was a really cool overview of the fates and i really like the end of bringing up how there are similar figures across cultures! the animation is really awesome too and i cant wait to see more!
I know! Anytime there is a similarity between myths, it makes me wonder if the stories travelled and were adopted by locals into their own culture.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 Well for the Three fates in the Norse pantheon it COULD be related to a common Indo European root. Ala Dyauspiter in the Vedas (A sky father god), Iupiter (Jupiter from Rome), Zeus pater (Greek), Papaios (Scythian), Tiyaz Papaz (Anatolia), Tiwaz (Germanic, Gothic for Tyr) Tuesday.
Moros god of Doom is stronger than the Moirai.
I'd really like to know more about Native American mythology and stories! Thank you!
That would be cool, would love to learn about the cultures that were here before European settlements (Texas history didn’t go over it much, and nether did us history, other than the main tribes, their location, and their relationship with settlers, and battles/events they were involved in)
I second your suggestion. In particular, I'd be interested in Coyote as a trickster figure.
I was just about to make this exact comment!
Chinese mythology might be an interesting topic. You could maybe how some mortal humans were elevated to god status like Guan Yu or Mazu. Maybe you could also talk about mixing between Buddhism and native Taoist and Confucian beliefs.
Guan Yu and Lu Bu. Love them both
Once Buddhism arrived in China from India the Buddha became the most powerful being in China he completely surpassed the Jade emperor whether it is power or authority
I love this new series! My two favorite goddesses, Hecate and Hel, both get so little love, so I would love an episode on either of them. Also, I'm fascinated by how the Celtic goddess Brigid shifted into a Catholic saint and then a Voodoo lwa. Those are my suggestions. :)
This is a great list, seconded!
I'd love to learn more about Celtic Pantheon. It's weird that they're not as well known as Greek or even Norse or Slavic
A catholic saint who made the pregnancy of one of her young nuns “go away” because it was inconvenient.
@@reginalunaraea There's almost nothing cohesive left of the Slavic pantheon(s). The Celtic one has at least some historical sources.
That is actually a question that I have pondered. How did that happen?
I loved it! So thrilled about this new show. I have a request: aztec (mexihca) mythology, more specifically the god with the most badass name of all, Tezcatlipoca (the Smoking Mirror), he who sees it all, lord of the night sky, magic, divination and a bunch of other attributes. Of course Quetzalcoatl, Huitzolopochtli and others can be interesting as well, but they're more the stereotypical macho heroes, whereas Tezcatlipoca is much more complex and intriguing.
@Kleine Vuurvlinder personally don’t like when people compare a indigenous culture and philosophy to a European culture
@Kleine Vuurvlinder I’m a native to South America
@Kleine Vuurvlinder no comparing my culture to the Bible is an absolute joke considering what evangelicals did to my people and to most of culture and history of the America’s
@Kleine Vuurvlinder your inability to take in to consideration the premise of my statement shows your lack of comprehension of what I said (.)
@Kleine Vuurvlinder the fact your trying to apply a religion that doesn’t apply to me shows how ignorant you actually are, you didn’t have to fight for anything especially not for the rights any human being deserves, poc have been oppressed by many abrahamic religions, by “it is the written word”
So excited to see a new kind of video from Storied; love the new host!
Great animations! The style is reminiscent of the kind of picture books that were read to me as a kid.
I just love this whole family of PBS YT shows. I watch them every time they drop. While I'm middle aged, have been into mythology, folklore, fantasy, religion, etc. for decades and already know most of this I really enjoy the presentation. It often spurns me to reread and research again, just for fun. All of this fascinating stuff fuels my visual art, and always has.
Thanks for existing, PBS, in all of your forms.
Considering how misogynistic most Greek cultures & city states were, I always find Nyx & the Fates as extremely interesting in that context.
Religions/Mythologies that I would be interested in would be: Nubian, Akan, & Yoruba.
Mythology also gives reflection of the society. Nyx and the Fates being powerful might indicate at one point women were well respected.
@@Vor567tez Archeologist say Minoan Greece it is possible Women and Bulls were worshipped. In the later Mycenaean Greece they believe Poseidon was top God and King of the Underworld. With Poseidon, Demeter, and Persephone being worshipped.
Most cultures in history*
Especially Yoruba Mythology needs more exposure this coming from a Yoruba tribal member
@@Ghostlyking-tc3vu Well to be honest the Yoruba religion is still going strong, especially in Latin American countries, as denominations of Santeria, Candomble, & Lukumi etc. It’s a global religion. And with all due respect as an African-American, you should give your people more credit, there’s nothing wrong with tribal societies. But your peoples of the Yoruba (which make up the ancestry of so many peoples of the African-ChattelEnslaved-Diaspora, in the Americas. Like the Akan) are not a “tribe”. Your people are city-state & empire builders. Calling the Yoruba, Akan or Nubians, a “tribe”, would be like calling the Chinese, Egyptians, or French a tribe. I especially love Yoruba swords like the Ada & Ida, & Yoruba architecture like the Oba & Ooni palaces. Cheers brotha!
This was a very good first episode! I liked both the host and the accompanying animations.
Personally, my favorite story of oracles and The Fates is the one where some guy is told he'll die in the ocean, so he stays on land all his life, only to die in an orchard called Ocean. Absolutely uncalled for by the Fates but quite funny.
I cannot find this myth anywhere--who are the characters? What is its name? I have studied Greek myth for decades and have never heard of it.
@@gwendolyn2001 Well, I learned it in my college world religions class, but I also can't find it when I google it. Maybe I've misremembered a detail or it was taught to me inaccurately.
Never heard about the Fates being personally involved with Hades and Persephone like that. There really is alot of different variotions of that story. And funnily enough, the oldest versions of it are actually the happiest, with Persephone actually loving Hades and being queen of the underworld, while later ones have Persephone being unhappy about it all. It's even weirder when we consider her pre-greek origin that already establish her as an underworld goddess, while Hades seemingly appears out of nowhere as greek mythology as we know it came to be, meaning Persephone has a much longer history as an underwold deity than Hades does.
Edit: Here is a good video by Overly Sarcastic Productions for those who are interested.
ruclips.net/video/Ac5ksZTvZN8/видео.html
Can you provide sources?
I can't find any old versions that say she was happy.
Homer says "[Demeter's] trim-ankled daughter whom Aidoneus [Haides] rapt away, given to him by all-seeing Zeus the loud-thunderer."
and Hesiod says "He [Zeus] came to the bed of all-nourishing Demeter, and she bare white-armed Persephone whom Aidoneus [Haides] carried off from her mother; but wise Zeus gave her to him."
And they are as old as you'll get
@@lior1299 The actual kidnapping and her happiness is kind of unrelated. If we look at it with historical context, women had practically no rights and the poses to symbolise kidnapping and marriage on Greek art were the same. So we can deduce that this wasn't too unusual, especially for the gods. Plus Homer's poem outlined Zeus as the antagonist so I don't think the intention was to frame the relationship as necessarily bad, though different retellings and sources differ. I think OSP made a decent video about this, I definitely recommend it, even if it's a little liberal on interpretation.
@@generalgrievous6689 I don't know.. I'm not convinced. That isn't anything to say she was happy as much as she was unhappy. Saying it was the norm, doesn't say she was happy. Zeus wasn't considered an antagonist, he just did what fathers did at the time and married his daughter off.
But I, the ancient Greeks, and even you probably should admit that abduction is a no no, right? (and its all symbolic)
Also, tricking your love interest into staying around by eating a pomegranate wouldn't be necessary if this was okay by her.
You can say that it may have started on the wrong foot, but it got better... But still, what ancient, 'older' sources speak to this?
You can even point out that she has sway over Hades in stories such as Herakles' 12th task, or Orpheus' plea for his wife, but these are later stories (Diodorus Siculus and the like, 1st Century BC) and in that case I can bring her infatuation with Adonis, which would be considered infidelity (for women).
@@lior1299 Idk. If we just take a look at the Canon as a whole, as you said, it would seem that even if the start wasn't great, the end result wasn't that bad. She has sway with him (and shares power which would have been uncommon for women) in some stories and at the very least they seem functional (compared to the other gods). The story was used to explain the seasonal cycle, so it would make sense these characters would play a role in this. Spring is sealed away and winter would cause death back then so it makes sense the god of the underworld was involved. It's also uncommon to hear myths/stories about the underworld, so it makes sense that we hear very little about their relationship. I guess it's up to personal interpretation becuase the original script was torn and the physical art representing it was limited. Earlier sources were from cults and they were very secretive, so it's impossible to trace these myths back any further then we already have.
The story of Persephone serves to explain the seasons; six months in darkness and six months in sunlight.
I have 3 ideas for videos:
1. Ra, and why he was so important compared to other Egyptian gods
2. A video on Loki, maybe comparing the mythological version to the Marvel version
3. Something involving Tlingit mythology
I would love to see some Tlingilt mythology properly presented.
I find it interesting that Tom Hiddleston looks more like Loki from the myths when he isn't dressed up to play Marvel Loki.
Ra is a pretty big subject. Good choice.
Raven bringing the sun is a big one here in Alaska. A general one I would love to see is about the fables about famous mountains. Mountains have great origin stories.
I would love to see any and all mythologies from around the Globe, not just the classics!
Great first episode, very informative! And if y’all are asking for requests- I have always wanted to know more about the Scandinavian witch called Lussi Long-Night. She’s linked (maybe syncretized?) with Saint Lucia, and leads the wild hunt come December
This channel is great, I wish PBS didn't have so many different channels and instead pulled all their shows within one or at least listed all of them, it took me this long to find this awesome channel.
When you brought up the Norns, it made me think an episode about world trees or trees of life would be a good idea.
Welcome Dr. McTier! I'm so looking forward to your future work on this channel!!
Love the new show. Really excited to see the myths that come up from other areas and histories.
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! So well explained, easy to understand, good overview, good pace, rich with examples and evidence. And even mentions other culture's takes on the same concept. I felt like I gained so much knowledge. I've been looking for something like this for so long. I've been wanting to understand Greek and Norse mythology better but I've just been too lazy to read.
I'd like to hear about Hawaiian and Japanese Gods & the creations of their lands.
I would love to see some Slavic mythology (maybe from the Balkans)!
This was fabulous! So glad for this new addition to the Storied family.
My own personal favorite depiction of the Fates in fiction are from Lloyd Alexander’s Prydain Chronicles, in the form(s) of the unsettling, unnerving, disorienting (but entertaining in their own fashion) marsh-dwelling trio Orddu, Orwen and Orgoch.
I will have to go take a look at those - but my own favorite fictional Fates are from Piers Anthony's Immortality series. One woman ends up being (at various points) every Fate, and it's just fascinating the way he plays with the concepts and subverts some of them while doubling down on others. And of course the humorous side of it is a big part of what I enjoy too!
I do love the Incarnations of Immortality. You might, if you enjoy comics, want to check out The Wicked + The Divine. My favorite depiction of the Norns is in there. Actually the whole premise is rather interesting.
The Witches of Morva rock, I agree!!!
Alexander's and Anthony's Fates were the ones I kept thinking about as I listened to this.
I would love to see videos about practically any lesser-known mythologies. There are a lot of videos and resources for Greek and Norse Mythology, but very little about anything else.
This is turning to be one of my favorite series so far. I would really like for you guys to cover about the various Filipino Pantheon depending on their regional origin. Hoping for more enthralling stories for you to tell.
Thank you! I usually only make it through Dr Z's videos. Great presentation, I look forward to more!
In LOTR, Galadriel tells Sam that things seen in the Mirror sometimes never come to pass "unless those who see turn aside to prevent them". Great first episode--I look forward to a deep dive in mythology!
What do you think of the new LotR series on A Prime about Galadriel and the Second Age? It seems they are having a bit of trouble getting a director to stick around, maybe the Fates have discouraged tinkering with Tolkien's world.
@@bbirda1287 I'm reserving judgement but I have my doubts about it.
Absolutely loved this first episode, as I knew I would. So looking forwards to this series! I'd love it if you could do an episode on Suomenusko (or other Finnic mythology) ☺️
I've struggled finding any information on Basque Mythology. I know a lot has been lost, but I'm yearning for a well researched video essay on what we do know!
OO! That would be so awesome!
There's a Basque poem-turned-song called "Gaur Akelarre". It might be an interesting read and listen for you. It's about a coven gathering to celebrate and ward of the Basque demon the Intxixu ["in-she-shoo"]. It was really fun learning this fast paced song for my high shcool chior and learning how to pronounce words in the Basque languague!
Is there a possiblity you guys could cover a lot of Slavic myths in the near future? I've been hearing about the Slavic myths, specifically of the Rusalka and of Prince Ivan and Koschey the Immortal a lot lately in my mythology dives, but never getting a lot about the Rusalka, much backstory for Koschey, or hearing about any other Slavic myths. (Loved the Leshy ep, Dr. Z!)
This is amazing, I've been waiting for a channel like this for forever! I'd love to see an episode on *Astarte/Ishtar/Inanna* about their similarities with each other and influences on later goddesses. An episode on *Anansi* from west African folklore would be amazing too.
I'm Ghanaian, I've heard a lot of Ananse, (proper spelling, not Anansi) stories first hand and I can explain any questions you may have.
9:18 The Korean Jeju goddess(more like just a spirit) is actually pronounced: Ga-mun-jang-agi (The Gamunjang part means "clay pot" and the last Agi part means baby). As the spirit of fortune she blessed her own house with riches and when her unknowing parents asked their children "Why do you think we are so blessed?", her two humble sisters(named silver pot and bronze pot) answered "It's because we have great parents" but "Claypot" answered "Its cuz of me!" Infuriated by her impudence, the parents ran her out of the house but then sent her sisters to bring her back. However, "Claypot" was so angry that she turned her sisters into rare mushrooms and caused her parents to slip and become blinded and eventually poor. She later repents her actions after meeting a kind man that gave the best parts of any food to his parents and older brothers only taking the barely edible crumbs for himself. She rewards the kind man with gold and marries him but learns that she cannot undo her own angery actions. She holds a feast for all the towns people providing food and drinks to the poor where she meets a old couple dressed in rags. She cries when realizing that these are her parents and a miracle happens undoing the harm she had done to her family. source: namu.wiki/w/%EA%B0%90%EC%9D%80%EC%9E%A5%EC%95%84%EA%B8%B0
Dr. McTier is an awesome presenter.
I'm so excited for the new addition to the channel!
It's awesome to see you all using this platform to give more women a voice.
We've looking into entities surrounding sleep and dreaming, and a lot of the stuff that pops up is about nightmares and sleep paralysis, but we'd be interested in learning about more general sleep/dream mythology.
How does this channel get even better every time they add an new show?
And im very happy about the topic of this first episode. The Fates are super interesting but rarely ever talked about!
I'm looking forward to seeing more of this series! I would be interested in learning more about Koschei the Undying from Slavic mythology, and of kitsune from East Asian mythology. (If either of those would be better covered in Monstrum, then I'd love to hear about them there.)
I first heard Dr. Moiya McTier on Spirits podcast and wasn't expecting to see her here! What a pleasant surprise! 😊 Looking forward to more!
I would LOVE a whole episode on Kameunjangagi-sounds like everything I'm looking for in a deity
Agreed. Only the Jeju people would have a goddes who turns her sister into a mushroom.🤣
I also concur! Someone who was raised to the status of Goddess of Fate, and Jeju has such a rich history that in turn would influence its myths in stunning ways - my linguist-anthro heart is desperate for more
This is great! You guys should do some episodes breaking down the mythologies of various Native North and South American cultures
I'd really like to see an episode about the japanese sun goddess amaterasu . Though I'm not Japanese myself, I'm very interested in Japanese folklore and mythology .
Really love this! Would love to see more expansion in Irish and British Mythology and its many MANY lists of gods and heros
It's so cool to hear about Zagreus' family ;)
Excellent new addition to the channel! Monstrum was a favorite so this is a great new topic
I'm really excited about this new series! This is probably the most I've heard about the Fates themselves and I'm glad you talked about it
I'd LOVE episodes on Loki, Aphrodite, and the Western Zodiac please!!!
I would love to see a deep dive of weaving in mythology. The fates are just one example. Because cloth, weaving, and braiding are fundamental to most human cultures. It's where a lot of us began.
Excellent subject for the first of the Fate and Fabled!
How about the stories from the Mabinogion? Love this channel.
After I discovered Monstrum I didn't think this channel could get any better... But now it did... Now I got two series I will totally freak out to be able to watch a New Video...
I think a "thank you" is appropriate for that...
I would really love to hear more about egyptian mythology or even norse! And everything east of Europe would be pretty neat!
To this point I kinda know a lot about greek mythology and I hate, that I lack every other, cause mythology is just sooooooooo interesting! It kinda shows you how the people of ancient times tried to explain what happened to them! And the stories are just really nice~
I would like to see episodes on how different mythologys relate to each other and inspire each other like how if you follow the etymology of the Norse god Tyr it's related to the Greek got Zeus. It shows how vastly different cultures are connected to each other.
hadestwon was the first time I'd ever heard of the fates! it was really cool how the fates pushed the narrative along at key points and became more obviously important at every step through the staging of the musical.
I love this channel so much that although I already know about Greek mythology I still watch this channel just in case I learn sth new.! Love from Greece !! 😍😃👏
I really enjoyed watching this video; it impressed me. The way the lady spoke and explained the interesting information about the fates of Greek mythology did change my idea of who the fates were and kept my full attention. I must admit that the video gives a sense of professionalism, great confidence and passion towards Greek Mythology. Thank you for sharing this video to everyone, keep up the good work!
Great new series, love the illustration style! Would love to hear about Aten and Akhenaten and the failed attempt to turn Egypt to monotheism (or just heliocentrism?). Also, just the deal with Mithraism in general.
I'm always up for anything involving Greek mythology
My favourite incarnations of the Fates are those three children from Inception and the Witches of Morva, not to mention Shakespeare's own Weird Sisters and Terry Pratchett's take on them!
Wouldn’t Terry’s three just be Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, and Magrat?
@@Lilithksheh7723 Agnes replaces Magrat as Maiden later on.
@@sandradermark8463 Agnes who? Nutter? She’s from Good Omens, not the Disc.
@@Lilithksheh7723 Agnes NITT. Read the Disc from Alpha to Omega .
I would love to see y'all cover Caribbean mythology, specifically Taíno stories!
Stoked for this new series and great characters to start it off with!! Edit: Definitely want to hear more about the cats and their place in mythology. It would be awesome to see the show delve into mythologies and pantheons that aren't commonly known
what a great a video i watched it 3 times just to absorb all the data, thank you !!!
Can we take a moment to appreciate Dr. Emily adoringly referred as "Dr. Z"? I am in full support of future episodes referring these ladies as Dr. Z and Dr. M. And yes, there is an *urgent need* to explain why cats are our eternal lords and masters.
Excellent first video Dr McTier. Love the Orion tattoo as well!
Great video, I am love learning about all mythology and fables, but I would love more stories about non-European folklore and mythology. I'm most interested in stories from the Americas and Carribean.
I agree. The stories of our native peoples are sorely overlooked. It would be good to record them to ensure they are not lost. It would be best to ensure the people are not lost.
I really enjoy Dr. McTier's episodes.
Would love to see some Meso-American mythology.
This was a recommendation that I clicked on for fun but this is seriously so fascinating and I'm definitely watching all of your videos!!!
I would love to hear about the indo-European obsessions with bulls. Such an interesting link between all those different cultures. I wonder if there is a myth that they all share?
Would love to see a deep dive on The Three Graces of Greek/Roman Myth and/or an overview about the various Gods of Joy and Happiness from around the world.
Either way, loved the episode and can't wait for more.
I'd love to see a special on folk magic.
Great episode! Another trio worth an episode would be Erinyes. They are quite fascinating.
I agree with this. They are terrifying and mysterious and fascinating to hear about. Especially since even though they were violent, blood thirsty and malicious, they were not necessarily evil but we're in fact punishing agents of justice. I first heard of them being called "the Furies."
Am I the only one to have noticed her tattoo comes from a myth itself? It's the constellation Orion.
I've got an essay coming up for a class on ancient myth, and you guys are SO getting cited. Great stuff. I can't wait for more from Fate & Fabled.
im interested in the proto-indo european archetype that even presents variants in Africa: the dichotomy between dragon-like creatures and thunder/storm deities. thor vs jormundgandr, zues vs typhon, etc. the african variant presents the thunder god in the epic of mwindo as blood brother to a dragon instead of foe. what does this relationship represent? what could the variations tell us about a culture's perceptions of nature/monsters?
@Kleine Vuurvlinder im not entirely sure to what you are referring, but i think Shiva's third eye and Zeus "birthing" Dionysus after incinerating his mortal mother might be what comes to mind. also thank you!
Yup, one episode in, and I love this show. Can't wait to see you in the next one!
Chaos is much more powerful than the Fates. The Fates may have control over people's destinies, but Chaos simultaneously gave birth to existence, and is existence
The views of the underworld in different mythologies could be an interesting subject for a video.
I find the fates so amazing. Even if we Greeks have stopped practicing most of our polytheistic heritage many of us have a strong belief in fate and have many sayings on it. We still use the word Moira (μοίρα) to express our fate and the word moirazo(μοιράζω) witch means to share. Because even if thousands of years and religions have passed our history is still well and alive in our language and of course... Our fate 🌻
I love this! One of the few channels I look forward to watching EVERY episode
Something that I haven't seen a lot of is Finnish mythology, and I'd love to see some stories explained.
Literally everything. Please go over every single mythology and mythos. I need this in my life! Egyptian draws me but i know very little beyond "the mummy" and assassin's creed. Norse celtic druidic sumarian Azteca Japanese mongol Arabian i wanna know them all!
I’d like to know more about Korean and Celtic mythology, mainly the Scottish side of Celtic mythology.
Oh, man. Totally enjoyed this episode. Looking forward to seeing the next one. 👍😁👍
Just a minor correction: It wasn't Persephone who made the argument that 6 pomegranate seeds was too small an amount to condemn her, it was Demeter who made that argument. Persephone's opinion on the matter was not consulted by anyone in most versions of the story and the few that do have her give an opinion, she states a desire to remain with Hades, not that anyone seems to care about what she wants.
Yes! I'm so excited for the rest of these!!
I would love to hear about ywo different things actually.....
First, I'd love a closer look at Mesopotamian mythology. Second, if possible I'd like to hear more information about the Vily/Wily/Samodiva/Rusalka from South Slavic myth if possible please-- I'm actually trying to write a bit about this latter but have limited information so far. Thank you!
Great episode! I loved the overview and the graphics are great! Can't wait to see more from Dr. McTier!
Guarani mythology, from south america would be awesome!
When i was studying romeo and julliet I remember hearing about them from my teacher, this provides so much more insight onto why they were mentioned. At the time my teacher just said it was a unique point to talk about and that if you were able to come up with a unique analysis about it in relation to the questions that end up coming up on the exam, then great and that if you don't think you can make use of it you can just forget about it as it will not help you.
I'd like to hear more about Aphrodite, I hear her story is so much more than just a goddess of love
My very soon to be 12 year old would very much like to see a video about Native American myths. He loves this channel and is a big fan of Dr. Z.
I'd like to see more African and Korean mythology
So excited for this series!!
Finally!!!
i really liked the host in this one! she did a good job
Dr. McT is pretty awesome! We’re lucky to have her-*Dr.Z*
Now, on the road to Hell, there was a railroad line;
And there were three old women all dressed the same.
And they were always singin' in the back of your mind;
Everybody meet The Fates!
I did not expect to learn about a goddess of my own heritage(kameunjangagi-가매은장아기) from a video about greek myths. Great video, thanks for the cool information.
This was such a great video on the sisters of fate. I would love an episode on the Titanomachy, as well as one about how mythical creatures and figures were metaphors and allegories for concepts and ideas of how people can be. Keep up the great work, I know these myths inside and out and I loved this video!!
Very well summarised and presented. Thank you! Waiting for more!