Fun Facts and Tips About Chevy Dump Trucks - Roadkill Extra
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Roadkill has developed a fetish for medium- and heavy-duty trucks. This time, David Freiburger walks you around a 1969 Chevy C50 dump truck to feed you tips about how the bodywork could be used on your 4x4 project. He also goes deep into the mysteries of the 366ci big-block V8 that was never used in passenger cars.
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I really miss when roadkill was free.. 😭 I really enjoyed your shows, but not everyone can afford it
Its cheap..
I’ve got to buy some new Mopar parts instead
Still free, just you get it 2 weeks after premium, or 2 months, i forget. Anyways, after the first year of premium they stopped charging me
you can just keep making different emails and use them to do consecutive 30 day free trials.
$45 a year dude
Annnnnnnd the prices for medium duty trucks just went up.
o2boutdoors at least some won't get crushed
Jason Johnson yeah but other people need them more, usually people who can’t afford the extreme idiotic prices people will want after videos like these
Jason Johnson people still use these for work trucks, not show trucks.
@@Shade_tree_garage01 The company I work for has a GMC with dual rear axles, 5x4 transmission, air brakes and a 427 industrial engine. We were using it until about a year ago.
Even diecast models of medium duty trucks are unreasonably expensive 😭
gotta admit , That truck looks great
Valdez Max as a mopar fanatic that can't stand GM; I agree. I'd own that
Kristopher Klassen you might not be able to stand gm. But almost any car gm made has better styling and looks
And the sbc motor is one of the top ten motors ever made of all time
Another common engine in those is the 292 inline 6. My father in law has one in an 83 C10. We fuel injected it (including electronic spark control) and turbo charged it. Pretty unique I'd say.
AWLSOME!
I could listen to this guy, all day long. He knows his crap inside out.
Thanks for the info dump.
11 years old and I learned to drive in a C60 with a 300 bushel grain box and 6.50 tires. Now find a V6 305, yes. V6
Myvintageiron7512 built one of those on his channel. Pretty cool engine.
mcinkyt they also have a 350v6 and a 4.3v8
They also had the V6 with 472 Cubic Inches
And 478 V6 GMC also had there own V8s & a V12
They put em together for the industrial/agricultural V12, some ran non stop for months non stop powering pumps and generators.
not one cut or edit ..... David has great knowledge with simple dynamics to paint clear pictures
should get a job at apple.
only-one earth but he doesn't have shitty business practices and rip off his customers.
Let's put a blower on this Mac Pro!
Noooo don't put him at apple. They don't give a fuck for visionaries they just want to re package Steve job inventions.
so true, I also always notice Freiburgers clips not being edited of cut whatsoever.
David can't be David if David works for a corporate.
I remember when I was a kid all our school buses were those old chevys and fords with 366s and the fords had 370s. They both had a unique sound for sure.
My Saturday morning dump! Thanks!
Finally mentions the 366... Love them for torque
3J Kreklau check out my 366 in my 69 C10 rat rod, they don t make big HP but crazy torque.
While a 366 may not be an ideal engine to get performance out of, I DO know that truck blocks were usually much thicker than their passenger car brethren and in particular those 366 blocks were hella thick. According to one rebuilder of the those engines and the book he wrote on Chevy big blocks, the 366 is capable of being bored out 125 thou. What that means in terms of bore size, or piston availability that I don't know. But it might be an interesting exercise to see if it's possible. ...or just stuff the 366 into a ratrod and call it good.
supposedly, the book mentions only boring the 427 out .125, the 366 can stand .090. I would have thought they shared a water jacket sand core to save money at the foundry. The bore is 3.935, so if sonic check said only .09 is possible, that's a 382 cid and a lot of weight since it's a tall deck block (you can put your thumb between the water pump and the bottom of the cylinder head). I guess one might try to sleeve for bigger cylinder bores, but at that point you might as well buy any aftermarket block out there and have thicker everything and roller lifter bores. The 427 was--before aftermarket blocks--the go-to for stroker Rats, since there was room for a big $2,000 billet crank and connecting rods. As far as just using the crank, I'll bet its balanced to those heavier pistons, so I think that too is about as costly as just picking up an aftermarket Chinese crank from the get-go.
Albert Gaspar, Or just put a mild hydraulic cam in a 454 and destroy any variation of a 366...
So this motor can handle huge boost...6-71 or twin turbos.
@@albertgaspar627 that 366 has a monstrous amount of torque. That’s why they were used so much in the trucking Industry. It was cheaper because of the small cubic inches but torque out the Wazoo. A very unique motor. Many miles we put on one bro it out die. If I had one in my u k, I woul not want anything else. Cool motor.
@@stansmith1911 they did make torque, just like inline sixes surprisingly popular in big trucks with a numerically high rear gear ratio. Smaller displacement will result in better fuel economy on an empty truck going to a work site at a steady RPM on the highway. They will pull amazing loads up a hill, they just won't do it at great speed like modern diesels with overdrive transmissions. But a benefit of gas engines in cold temps is the fuel won't gel like diesel fuel, you just need to keep the tanks full so they won't fill with water vapour that freezes into ice overnight.
tall deck height also allows better rod to stroke ratio and the small bore allows for better air fuel mixing. Extra piston ring also is sweet and I bet there is more coolant around those cylinder walls. Can get good fuel mileage for the motor size and longevity at high load and RPM's. I never heard of that size. I have heard of the tall deck height 427's. Pretty cool. Dump trucks rule, especially Chevrolet ones.
366 rods are standard length.
Scored a tall deck 427 BBC out of a dump truck. They're hidden gems for sure.
There badass! Building one to a 555 cubic inch! For my 55 belair
You should just restore that truck. It's a beauty.
My thoughts too, it even has A/C is seems. And great for those occasional dump runs or carrying short cars.
I thought the same thing. Pretty rare to see factory ac on these big trucks
I would ditch the bed, put a RV utility box(for tools and straps and such) and a 5th wheel on it and use it as a car hauler.
Youd better change the gear ratio and an overdrive if you wanna go distance.
Yes, don't talk about making something else out of it.
Drove a 69 grain truck like this one except it was longer and had the 427 in it. Was a tank.
We have a 70 GMC 5500, basically the same truck, that we put a 13 ft grain box on. It started life as a county dump truck without power steering. It's a brute to drive. 5 speed trans with 2 speed rear end and a 350 engine. NO AC except the 2/55 ac.
My 79 C-70, 366 only has 2/52 A/C. Max speed is 52 mph!!!!@@dannyo6699
The cranks in the 366 are very good steel induction hardened,
that’s all that’s useful in those engines.
Mark Shane Yeah, just take a 366 crank and stick it in a 396. My father did that in the old days and it was basically a forged crank upgrade. 💪🏼👍🏼
Bought 1 of those 427 tds years ago. Went to get it all machined up, and got talked into a swap with a 4 bolt 454 block. Sounded great, until a couple years later found a bunch of welding evidence in the water jacket. Live n learn!
I bet Dave's wife liked hearing the end.
That grill is SUPERB. The individual pans for everything, double air intakes, man what a look.
I'd daily it.
Lucas Arthurs I own the exact thing and they are cool to look at but terrible to drive
I daily a 86' with a 18 foot bed and a 366
Me too! That dump truck looks awesome!
I just did a rescue of a 1989 C7000 that use to haul around a top fuel car! It was a ton, even two tons of fun!
Have a 366 in my 1983 C30. Sounds amazing with 3 inch straight pipe stacks
With the 427 tall deck, you can still Bore it out 100 to make a torque monster build.
the beauty of the 427 tall deck (spotted by the ability to slip your thumb's width between the water pump mounting and the top of the block/bottom of the cylinder head) was the ability--back in the days before aftermarket blocks--of slipping a stroker crank into that taller crankcase and clearing the cam lobes. If you didn't want to bore out a passenger block until you saw water, you went with a tall deck. And I think the crate 572 cid use a taller deck block.
Thank you very much for answering all of my questions I have had about the 366 since I was a kid. My father had a 1970 as a wrecker. It had the 366 with a holley 4 bbl and had no guts whatsoever. I always wondered about that engine and why I never saw it in cars. Thanks!!!!!
A buddy has a same year C60 dumper currently under fix. Has the offered and numbers matching 327 sb in it. Also was avail with a 283ci sb. Braking systems on those are sketchy bigtime!!. DON'T LOAD HEAVY!. Complete Power steering setups are rare as hens teeth,,but they were offered and worked reasonably well. Still can get pumps and 1500psi 4gpm boxes for them. Both with a regular PS box and also a ram helper steer setup on the drag link,,and some had both,,to be able to steer the brick.
I remember riding in my uncle bobs ‘72 c50 with a straight 6. I remember once telling him “ This is a cool truck” as I picked hay out of the arm rest, and he replied “ Well it’s just a ole farm truck” and now I love 67-72 chev trucks
I had a '69 C60 short frame dump with same engine and a Fisher snow plow in 1992! I wish I had it still for all these years...
Just what you need around the house
David is the best dude on this channel.
DURRRRRR FUCK ON DEMAND MY BROKE ASS SHOULD GET EVERYTHING FREE HURRRR - every comment on every motor trend video ever
A) My dad had a 70 C70 tractor with tall block 427.
2) A guy outside of Lisbon Ohio had put a 73 style C50ish front clip on his 4X4. Looked good with the exception of the busy paint job.
Neighbor has a 1963 c60 with a 292 straight 6. The thing is a tank. It starts right up after a few pumps on the gas pedal and easily handles anything we throw in the back. It has a 2 speed rear end and can only go 45 mph but it's incredibly useful.
I knew about the 366CI big block My God I need a life!!!
Cool old truck, but every DOT inspector that saw it rolling, would pull you, and go over it with a fine tooth comb. My family's excavating business had to retire a nice International dump truck for that reason. Hard to run a business from the side of the highway.
***** Funny thing was, since it was my grandpa's truck, it got more TLC than most. It was mechanically perfect.
Man that sucks i feel sorry for you guys that live in crappy states like that. I could drive that thing all around here and no body would even care.
what's the reason for all the harrassment?
Pedro Bergamaschi Typically the front end, and brakes, but would evolve into any little thing. I'm not bashing DOT, a lot of dangerous trucks out there, and a 50 year old truck is a fair target.
it's sad to go through that with a well maintained truck
Great video. Weren't these engines built at the Tonawonda engine plant in NY? Seems like I remember seeing that badge on 366 equipped trucks..... A factory I worked in 30 years ago had a large amount of paper trim from the automated dies they used to cut products out of, and they bought a 1969 GMC garbage truck to collect the trim with. It had tandem rears, and I believe the equivalent of a C-70. It had a factory 427 with a huge Holle double pumper, a hi rise cast intake and a very pleasing slightly lopey idle. That engine was a beast. It ran out in an old school power glide 2 spd. , And it shifted so hard it'd set you back in the seat hitting 2 nd. Torque was unbelievable.
These were good old workhorse trucks. Drove a lot of them back in the early 70's hauling grain, feed and fertilizer.
What a coincidence. My dad just told me about 366 big blocks today. He apparently drove a few of these.
I had a 366 tall deck in my square body S10 blazer mud truck in high school. It was propane powered and awesome!
My dad use drive an old C70 dump truck with a 366, 5speed 2speed axle, single axle with a pony axle(lift axle). That truck would scale 16 tons, hauling loads after loads of asphalt a day. It was very reliable.
I love these heavy duty gas engines when gas was cent per gallon.
Another fun fact about GM. Pop the hoods on some of those early '60s Trucks and you'll find a 348 W engine.
I had a 1978 C50 flat bed with a 350 that I bought just because it was cheap. Had to sell it. Sure do miss it! I pass these old beautys all the time working in rural areas, I just dont have anywhere to park them!
I have a 366 in my 40’ Blue Bird RE bus. Originally I was disappointed. But did my homework and the 366 is actually an awesome engine for its use. It’s actually pretty powerful, but even more important it can withstand abuse. Oh. Also. It moves my 25,000lb bus 75mph on the freeway. I love it!
I think finnegan would love that truck.
but he wouldn't want to be the one to wheel stand this one.
@@george_cramer_1980 agree
He just picked one up. He traded a red c30 crew cab enclosed ramp truck for the C50 on a P30 chassis with a ramp bed... It's a project, but will be interesting to see happen.
I like the small back glass section used on dumps, cut em out for small trucks
My uncle gave me a bunch of these.he was a school bus mechanic. He also had the 427s you speak of. We ran them in Chevy wheelers.
Wish Dave would do a project with the old GMC V-6 , those were also in buses and dump trucks, good infro, great looking truck.
#StubbyDump
I could listen to Freiburger talk about random engine facts all day everyday.
Lot's of old school bus's had the same 366, and old grain trucks were also fitted with a 366. The 366 had HP, but the Torque was Awesome.
Mr. Freiburger is so freaking cool! Buy roadkill extra guys, you know you want to!
Does anyone else hate the fact that he probably has forgotten more about cars than anyone of us will ever know? And by "hate", I mean I'm completely envious of his knowledge.
Beautiful truck and beautiful landscape!
I kept a flock of 9 366 chevy's running for a siesmic drilling company. the used a fleet of them little chevy truckswith tandem suspentions and 5/4 trans in them. they are a super tough motor, but there was a couple guys i swear were there to prove they could destroy one.
You forgot about a difference in the cabs, medium/heavy truck cabs had a flat floor with no transmission tunnel. And they were all small rear windows. Even the 73-87 body style trucks had small rear windows which is really cool.
I used to have a 69 C50 Dumper, but it had a cattle rack on it. I loaned it to a guy to haul some rocks on, and he broke the frame in half somehow while dumping. So I sold it to him for $100 (it was pretty thrashed anyway). He welded the frame back together and as far as I know still uses it.
We had 60 series plow trucks at the town highway dept I worked for. All of them had the 366. It was a torgue monster.
My grandpa has a '72 GMC C60. It's just a small block, but it's still a cool truck.
You still see quite a few of these out in my area. There's some vegetable farmers near by that run these, most have had the doors removed and the top of the cab sawzalled off and are typically driven by migrants thru the fields and such. A lot of these trucks are still in service as grain trucks. Most that come up for sale can be bought really cheap. Farmers have moved on to semis pulling hopper bottom trailers or they've gone to longer, heavier straight trucks with diesel power plants in them. Those trucks made a lot of money for a lot of guys over the years.
ih1206 exactly, back in the day these things were on every farm hauling grain. You could still get the 427td up until just a few years ago in the kodiac and top kicks.
Those shorty trucks also make excellent tow vehicles, both with standard hitch and a gooseneck trailer. Adjust the rear spring rates to suit and they last forever and will pull any trailer you could ever want.
The second most interesting thing about that truck is it looks to me that it's equipped with factory air conditioning,, which is highly unusual for commercial vehicles in that era...
Wow Freiburger is an encyclopedia of motoring knowledge.
I like the cab over
LOL! When I saw it at the beginning I thought "hmmm...that probably has a 366".
These shortbed trucks are so cool. Pitty we don't get into them in europe
I always wanted to get one of these, graft a suburban body onto it and convert it to 4wd
I remember finding one of these bad boys out in the woods but it was a logging truck
I love GMC and Chevy trucks. I currently have a 2000 GMC 3500HD one-ton dually with a 7.4/454 Vortec. It was the last year for the 454 and the first year for 4-wheel disc brakes. It was formerly a government vehicle and had only 42,000 original miles when I bought it last year. I have some plans for that beast.
I have 2 of them, a 68 C60 with 366 and a 69 C60 with 427, still running, good trucks.
When I was a teen in the 70s I had a 77 with a 366 my buddy had a 77 with a 427 cammed we used to race the kids in our town with pickups and beat them I always wanted his truck to put the enguine in a pickup it would only do 70 but it got there so quick.
Being a Brit, my automatic reaction to a V8 commercial petrol engine is, WTF is the fuel consumption like on that thing! Nothing commercial in the UK built after the early 1950's had a petrol engine, apart from a few small vans. Even those went diesel in the 60's. Nice truck though!
turboslag damn the 2500 suburban I got rid of two weeks ago had an 8.1 V8
We were getting petrol engined trucks from Ford and Bedford in New Zealand until the 70's. Maybe they exported the petrol engined ones
That petrol engine put out diesel power, it was equal to its Detroit or Cummins counterparts, and the 427 exceeded them, with the same Milage. 12.9MPG 300HP 500FTLBS of torque
Years ago I worked for a landscape company, my work truck was a new 1994 Topkick flatbed with a 366 gasser and a 5 speed manual, it got 5mpg. It replaced the 1991 Ford F-350 stake bed with a 351 and 5 speed (the company had several of those spec trucks) which also got around 5mpg.
The 366 has torque for days. It didn’t care if it was loaded or empty, pulling a skid steer or not, it just went...drinking lots of gas while doing it.
The 366 would simply run away from the 351s, they just couldn’t keep up. She sounded sweet too.
This guy. He knows things.
I built a 366 truck engine, thumper cam, timing gear set, 454 intake and headers. plus a lot of other things. It's in a 69 C 10 rat rod.
o.k he stated some facts but he has misled the crowd a 427T "tall deck" has the same bore 4.250 as a standard big block and can be bored .125 over. Can easily do a 468 or 496 stroker combo 600hp street car......think about it.......yes Fry- Burger this should be your next west tech dyno budget big block build. I run a tell deck 427 in my Nova its a great engine. Back in the day before aftermarket blocks this is what drag racers were using to build bog cube torque monsters.
My first truck was a Tonka Dump truck so hell yes I loved this episode!
Here after Finnigans new ramp truck!
I love the Chevy pickup in the background!
skinny piston on a tall rod makes for good draft...good draft - good foot pounds
We have one of the old TopKick dump trucks and it's a strictly propane 350ci Chevy. Absolutely crap for climbing hills, but nothing seems to be able to stop it. Also somehow manages to turn on a dime.
The front part of the doors cut out to accept the stubby front end so unlike a Ford,you can't do this to a regular cab unless you had the dumptrucks doors.
366 was an interesting engine, their biggest down fall was using very small exhaust valves so they were notorious for burning exhaust valves when pulling long hills when the EGTs would shoot up. But they got way better fuel mileage than the equivalent Ford model. My family has been doing dirt circle track racing since 1960, big block modified division. Back in the late 90s my uncle got a couple 366 blocks figuring they would be a good heavy in expensive alternative to finding early 427/454 blocks. After the aggravation of finding performance parts because they're completely different from other Chevy big blocks, we were disappointed to find that after only a few nights they were cracking at the crank webbing in the block, so needless to say those blocks are now just weight on the plow. I had an old 1969 C60 dump when I was doing construction I got it cheap with burned valves. I ended up swapping it with a tbi 454 never had an issue after that
roadkill deserves their own channel. ok dirt everyday is pretty cool too.
About the only thing you could do with the tall deck blocks to make power is supercharging. But it will only ever be a low speed engine with those heavy pistons.
I just bought from a junkyard a really clean 1976,66 passenger, GMC 6000 Bus for 800 bucks with an automatic and air brakes that has this motor in it and drove it 25 miles at about 55mph (its top speed)and then up a tight/twisting/steep dirt road at night.
It's completely empty of everything except for the drivers seat and dash but has bamboo flooring from one end to the other and not 1 Dent or scratch on the whole thing and no broken windows...... It has more Room in it then some apartments I've lived in!!!!!
theres also a big plus to these...they are more durable than a regular block when you add BOOST!
I owned a 1975 gmc 6500 dump with a 366 it was a real good motor even with a lot of miles never leaked a drop of oil but gas milage sucked about 4 to 5 mpg was ok till gas started going up then traded it for a 7000 with a 453t wish I still had it
Put it on a cucv chassis with a cummins/RTO6610 swap and disc brakes. Run 8 to 10 lug adapters, 20x10 mrap rims and 365/85 R20 tires.
Holy crap, that view from that property!!
Hey David, I like the old industrials.. I wanna make a cool race car toter... the only problem is the 2 speed rear gear is SOOOO RIDICULOUSLY LOW... like 7.10 in low and 5ish in high! Who sells a ring and pinion in like a 3.08 (for the 2 speed carrier) so I could have highway gears in high range and good in-town gear in low.... ???
The chevy trucks also came with the big block V6's they are so good I wish I could find one now to build up they had the plaid valve covers and looked so cool.
I believe those were GMC only.
366 and 427 tall decks were truck engines, built heavy duty for heavy duty work. You can't make them fast, but you can make them haul a mountain around the world and never break a sweat.
I had a 366 in my C20 pick up truck. Was my daily for years. Got decent milage when it was geared right.
I love those old dump trucks.
The cab trick for 4 wheel drives works on most trucks from the 50's thru the 80's from ford , chevy and dodge it was so much cheaper for auto makers to use the same cab for all of there truck models but the only ones I have ever seen used are on the big ford 4 wheel drives in florida we have it made because there street legal with 44s and they look so good with the big factory fenders.
Those things are dope. I wouldn't mind dailying one.
One of the best Extras.
awesome truck my family has a 1969 chevy c50 shorty but its a tow truck and im pretty sure it has a 350 v8 in it. my grandpa bought it new in 1969 and it currently has just shy of 17,000 original miles!
get it, convert the back to a normal bed style (mock up or otherwise), install a twin turbo 632, some big meats and trim the thing down as much as possible, could be fun. I bet farmtruck would like this dumptruck
Thanks, now I want a bagged rat rod dump truck...
same fuckin thought. i follow a few dudes on instagram and what not that have done this with like older flatbed trucks but yet to see a dumper. would be unique and cool no doubts.
Bagging is for the dumbest of car enthusiasts.