The “Texas Aces” (Miss USA 1985-1989) TPN#13
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- While I’m preparing the grand finale of my three-part series, Scoring Miss Universe, I thought I’d share another quick clip in honour of the recent Miss USA competition. One of the most incredible achievements in all of pageantry is the five consecutive victories for Texas at Miss USA in the 1980s.
Trained by the famed duo "GuyRex", then-Miss Texas USA state directors Richard Guy and Rex Holt, the above queens swept all before them between 1985 and 1989 to claim one of the most fiercely contested national pageants in the world.
This quintet were unstoppable at Miss USA, but they fell just short of capturing the Miss Universe crown in their respective years:
🇺🇸 1985: Laura Harring (Top 10 at Miss Universe)
🇺🇸 1986: Christy Fichtner (1st Runner-Up)
🇺🇸 1987: Michelle Royer (2nd Runner-Up)
🇺🇸 1988: Courtney Gibbs (Top 10)
🇺🇸 1989: Gretchen Polhemus (2nd Runner-Up)
Nonetheless, these amazing queens deserve some huge adulation for a feat that may never be repeated!
The “Texas Aces” feature in Part 2 of Scoring Miss Universe, in which I look at the success rate of women who won the Preliminaries and Semifinals at Miss Universe and went on to capture the crown.
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The misses of TEXAS are spectacular
Yes they are.
Since then, 4 more Miss Texas USA winners have won Miss USA, with 2 of them going on to win Miss Universe!
A great 5 year streak for the Lone Star State! And no i'd say it will probably never be equaled.
All these women are absolutely GORGEOUS !!
They’ve done it wonderfully!!!
I've just been writing about this amazing string of victories, so thank you for such a comprehensive summary! All the best from England.
Christy Fichner came so close to winning Miss Universe. If she would've won, Miss Ohio (Halle Berry) would've took over as the new Miss USA.
Yes, I never thought it it that way! Halle as Miss USA! She represented the US at Miss World 1986 but I wonder if her career trajectory would’ve changed had she been a titleholder for a full year?!
@@PageantNerd One little known fact: Christy Fichtner and Gretchen Polhemus' winning moments both appeared in the opening of the 1995 Miss USA pageant.
Christy Fichner is the best MISS USA 🇺🇸 WINNERS from 1952 still up to this date, 2023. A Miss USA winner doesn’t have to win Miss Universe to be the best; she prove that
Christy should have won Miss Universe! She was drop dead gorgeous! Hello from Tyler Texas!
Nobody was going to beat Barbara at MU.
I love Courtney Gibbs 1988. She was so stunning .
this channel deserves more subscribers and more views. The quality is ridiculous. I normally dont subscribe to beauty channel except Sierra B's but I immediately clicked subscribe after watching one video.
Christy Fichtner was very upset she was the first runner up
Michelle Royer qualified in first place after the prelims, the venue was my home country, Singapore, she was in second place most of the time until she was barely edged by Miss Italy in the last minute. Miss Italy was very very stunning.
Gibbs also qualified first after the prelims but didnt do that well in the final.
Thank you, Dixon! That’s really sweet of you to say - I’m trying to do something a little different, so I’m glad the nerdy stuff is entertaining you! I actually covered the fact that so many Miss USAs won prelims but fell short on finals night in my series “Scoring Miss Universe”. Not sure if you’ve had a chance to look at that yet. I do hope you have a look through the other clips - I’ll be keen to know what you think! MU 1987 is truly one of my favourite pageants of all-time - it was so beautifully put together. Best wishes from Australia to Singapore! ☺️
They kept USA out of the Top 5 to have an Asian woman to win Miss Universe 1988.
Chelsi Smith , ms Texas , miss universe ❤️
Yes ☹️ RIP Chelsi ♥️
Hi! TPN..... I miss your voice. Yet still another amazing video. Pls stay safe and I can’t wait to hear your voice again.
Thank you, Mel! I’ll be back soon for sure! Stay safe as well in these crazy times! 😘
Their five peat win at Miss USA was a major turning point at the start of Miss USA 1990, when they decided to change the format (Final 3) to make more excitement and to prevent Texas from winning more Miss USA crowns. Texas ended their winning streak and the first African American to win Miss USA.
Yes, it definitely had a huge impact, and it was about time an African-American woman won Miss USA - crazy to think Carole was the first only 30 years ago. Nonetheless the Miss Texas USAs of that era was so well-prepared, really a cut above the rest at that time - an amazing achievement.
The Miss Universe organization didn’t have anything or did anything to PREVENT OR STOP Texas from winning more. Texas had a group that was two gentlemen who were over the state of Texas USA pageant. They left and things went downhill. Miss USA 🇺🇸 was strong with all the Miss Texas USA 🇺🇸 winners even after the 5 years in a row. Miss USA 🇺🇸 1995 won Miss Universe the late Chelsi Smith R.I.P. 😔🙏🏼
To say that discredits the other winners.
@@simonseville1037 The new format in 1990 gave Texas more difficult to win more Miss USA crowns.
@@mentorshipprogram777 for for for
Great video and Christie is #1 because she got the highest placement and had the most elegant competitor. WISH Barbara went and won in 85 and Christie 86!
Thanks again for this great video, TPN!
Thanks, Raygze! Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
What a wonderful TREAT to start my day! And about Miss USA and the amazing Texas run! So much fun my friend. Also I want to say thank you for your kind comment to me from last week - just so kind of you to say you look forward to my comments. Thank you friend thank you. I don't know how you find all of this amazing content and HOW you put it together? It boggles my mind! Keep it coming - I have told some friends about your channel to get you to the thousands of subscribers that you truly deserve. Wondering if your fans can get you to do predictions for the upcoming Miss Universe? We would LOVE to see your insight and wonderful editing! Just a thought for you TPN - no pressure. As always I wrap up with thoughts of your continued health and safety in this pandemic and thanks for such wonderful content and your kindness. Your US friend, Joseph
My absolute pleasure, Joseph. I really didn’t think that I’d connect with such awesome people by doing the odd video here and there. I really wish I had more time to throw content together, but I’m glad what I’m doing seems to be entertaining some people!
I will indeed do some predictions for Miss Universe - I’ve steered clear up to now as I wanted to establish the channel a little more before I threw myself to the lions, so to speak! Getting involved in predictions will presumably broaden the appeal of my channel, but also opens me up to the nasty comments I’ve so far managed to avoid by just sticking to facts, and less about opinions. But I’m actually looking forward to doing some predictions, as I’ve been doing them personally for many years now! Will have to see how mine compare! All the best to you Joseph, and good evening from Sydney, Australia!
All beautiful. 1986 my favorite.
Christy Fichtner should have won Universe in 86, I just don't know what the judges saw in Barbara - those eyebrows and hair and gown ugh...Christy looked like Christie Brinkley who was a popular supermodel at the time. She was just so much more stunningly beautiful.
Couldn't agree more!
De acuerdo contigo también pero bueno a ella la recuerdan más que ni la misma ganadora, entonces al final si ganó 😊😊😊
I know!! I was 13 and so sad😢
Beautiful all of them...well deserved crowns. :D Thx
Agreed!
Indeed!
It was not until after Guy-Rex and the TX connection did a Miss Texas win both USA and Universe. I also have to give a shout out to Kim Tomes who was the first Miss Texas to win MUSA. She is often lost.
Amazing video loved it ❤️
Thank you, Om!
My fav is Gretchen. She was amazing and she’s really nice on IG
All of them are beautiful but it's Courtney for me.
Gretchen was the worst. Especially those store-bought teeth and fake boobs.
You really are a "pageant nerd". Your videos are well researched and well prepared.
Thanks, Philip - I try! Very important to protect the Nerd label haha 🙃
More content please. Love from Ph
Love to the Philippines! Thanks Alson - I’m working on it! 🙂
1988 miss usa is the most beautiful, an iconic beauty
That’s funny because all world 🌎 pageant expert said Miss USA 🇺🇸 1988, was the weakest of the 5 Miss USA’s winners 1985-1989
Hey PN, how about an episode featuring on How the participating countries in MU select their representative and how their national pageant commence. Some countries used a numbering system and some use the candidate's first name on their sash (instead of their state/province). I know this a thorough research for you but I think this is worth an effort for your channel.
I am a big fan of the Miss USA, Miss Universe and Miss Teen USA pageants. CBS was the best network for pageants!
I agree! While NBC brought a bit more of a cool factor to the MUO pageants, CBS certainly had them in the pageants’ heyday
@@PageantNerd 100%. They are not nearly as good these days :( There was such QUALITY.
Where's the voice over? PN, I miss your honey-toned narration on this one.
Haha, I’m resting the honey voice for Part 3 of my series! Was just trying to put something out a bit more regularly. I was finding my proper doco style clips were taking so long! I’ll be back soon, promise! 😊
All of these winners were prepared by then directors of the Miss Texas USA pageant, GuyRex. They even made a documentary about them and all that went into preparing a title-holder for their next competition. My favorite thing of theirs was that they expected all of their representatives to have what they referred to as crown hair. Simply stated, you should anticipate winning and it should be easy for the crown to be placed on your head. And if you look at each of their crownings you will see that the crown goes right on. They left the Miss Texas organization and started working with contestants in Hawai'i. I'm not sure if they were working independently at that time or if they were directly affiliated with a state pageant organization. What I do know is that they had a hand in preparing Miss America 1992, Carolyn Suzanne Sapp; the first ever Miss America from Hawai'i. I've always been curious if they were involved with the Miss Hawai'i USA contest in 1997, the year that produced Brook Lee, who went on the become Miss USA and then Miss Universe.
I never heard that they worked with contestants in Hawaii! I do know that after they were kicked out if Miss USA they started the Miss World America contest and chose the American delegate to Miss World from 1992 through 1997. The first two years were separate pageants and then 1994 and 1995, they produced them in association with Miss Mexico-World. For 1996 and 1997, they chose the girls themselves. They lived in California for several years before returning to Texas. Rex Holt passed in 2015 and Richard Guy passed in 2019. Pageants have not been the same since.
@@robinquinc329 -- Thanks Robin for this additional info. I was only a teenager when the five-peat occurred and caught the documentary about them somewhat by accident, but I enjoyed watching pageantry so much it sticks out in my memory. I don't recall where I learned about their having prepared Carolyn but when their name was mentioned I immediately connected it back Miss Texas and the documentary. Their legacy is undeniable. It's too bad that they were never able to produce a MU winner. They sent five amazing women from Texas and each of them did well but none were able to secure the crown for the USA. It took six more years before a Miss USA became Miss Universe and it should be no surprise that it was a woman from Texas. The amazing Chelsi Smith (RIP).
@@ML-xh6rd AS for Carolyn, you are probably thinking of Carolyn Mitchell. She was the Guy Rex office manager/associate producer/travel companion to Miss Texas-USA and Miss California-USA! After GuyRex left the pageant world, she went on to teach public relations at U of Texas at El Paso.
You are probably thinking about Miss America 1992, Carolyn Sapp from Hawaii! Guy Rex at this time had started the Miss World America Pageant. GuyRex would not work with Miss America. They started out their Miss EL Paso franchise for Miss Texas-America.
I really enjoyed watching your videos. Maybe you can also feature the opening numbers like the Mabuhay during the 1994 Miss Universe Pageant in Manila, Philippines.
Why?
If this scenario happens in Miss Universe in the near future, I'll be very happy. (Well, despite the concerns from fans about the new owner, Anne JKN, they're worried about her rigging it or bribing the judges, and I don't see her like that. Why would she do it to the most prestigious pageant as she is aware of these issues?)
Venezuela has had their back-to-back victory, well I have a feeling that this might happen to that country. Or maybe the USA, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, or South Africa (they almost had it with Tamaryn Green placing 1st Runner-Up in the 2018 edition, their three-peat victory would've made history).
Can you make a video about all the countries that place in miss universe
I Love miss USA 1988. She so beautiful
Isn’t she just? A timeless beauty!
Courtney Gibbs is a goddess from another planet.
Isn’t she just heavenly?! I do wish she’d have done better at MU 😕
@@PageantNerd Even though Georgia was my favorite for Miss USA , I do believe that Courtney should have placed higher! Especially, over Hong Kong and Japan.
@@robinquinc329 Hong Kong did good actually. I think Japan and Mexico could’ve been replaced by USA and Dominican Republic.
@@lilytsui3015 I can somewhat get Mexico, but again for me Hong Kong should have gone and Japan also. Both replaced by Dominican Republic and the USA.
@@robinquinc329 I disagree. I didn’t find Mexico very facially strong. Hong Kong had elegance and poise. And judging from the preliminaries scores, Hong Kong placed higher than Mexico and Japan who both made it to top 5. I would rather take away Mexico and Japan for USA and DR.
I finished now all your videos haha
Thanks for working your way through them! Which one was your favourite? 🙂
Gretchen Polhemus was my favorite 🤩
Yeah, she was amazing!
Your joking, right. I thought she was the worst.
Five-Time Lucky
Courtney Gibbs is my all time fave Miss USA winner. Her face is perfect. Kinda sad she only placed Top 10 in Miss Universe 1988.
Of course five Texas winners, I think Courtney was the most beautiful but Michelle had the best personality.
totally agree on miss universe! She placed very high in the prelims BUT for some reason on the LIVE event her scores dropped for no real reason? It was a strange result all these years later
@@dy1497 Funny. That reminds me of 1992 (I think) when Miss TEXAS won the preliminary rounds but then came in 7th in the SemiFinals just missing out on the Top 6 to the eventual winner, funny enough, Miss California. I'll never know why Texas went from 1st place to 7th, all while looking beautiful, composed and even with the "save the best for last" slot in the Semis. I think its a separate group of judges from prelims to semi/finals, but still!
The Universe pageant was in Taiwan and there were several Asian judges, and 4 of 10 and 4 of the top 5 were Asian, it was really...weird...planned...USA was great and 1st in prelims but not a chance in finals.
I love miss usa 1988
Wasn’t she incredible?!
Miss USA is one of the most unpredictable pageants these days. I don't think this could still happen because a lot of state pageants are becoming more and more competitive 🤔
I agree! Especially with what happened this year at Miss USA I don’t think the favourites always get through if they’re over hyped!
The Pageant Nerd It’s a term called pageant patti and I don’t think there crowning pageant perfect girls anymore there looking for more relatable girls.
@@kkingmusic13 What do you mean "relatable"?
@@kkingmusic13 pageant Patti only work on the local or state level. I don’t think they ever crowned a pageant patti contestant on a national level.
Hi TPN , just wanted to ask when will the third part come .....I just keep on checking the notifications ...I
Hi Sritansu, I’m hoping to have it done by the end of this coming week!
I wondering what if Texas and Hawaii become independently, it would be totally COOL
Absolutely! Hawaii still competes at Miss International separate from the USA after all!
Las más bellas mis estados unidos fueron estás 5 mujeres de texas
Miss Texas won in 1977
Hi TPn, really love your musics! whats the tile of this one..thanks so much
Thank you! This track is called “Gold Medal” by Sounds Like Sander
@@PageantNerd thank you so much:)))))
Can you make a video of countries that place that year at miss universe
Hello! Do you mean 1988 when there were 4 Asians in the Top 5?
Courtney Gibss es bellísima, el hecho de no ganar la corona no le resta Belleza, así son las competencias su Belleza recuerda a Grace Kelly de Mónaco⚜️
Saludos desde México 🇲🇽
si y por el canones de bellazza yankess ella es mu feminina
Australia here. The Miss USA Pageant used to be televised here back then. Can still remember the “Texas Aces”. That was back when pageants were magical, and such a classy event. I don’t know why they had to change. Under the current system, I don’t think something like this could happen again, sadly
Australia here too! 🇦🇺
I very much remember when Miss Universe and Miss USA were shown on free to air TV here. It was always a task to make sure you didn’t miss recording it on the VHS when it was shown at some ungodly hour!
The 1980s were my favourite pageants for sure! And yes, I think the era of domination like that is over for the time being!
@@PageantNerd Oh my gosh - you are too!! Just been watching some more of your videos. They are fantastic, and the voice over/doco style is really good! Would love to talk with you more about pageants - have never really known another Australian pageant fan! LOL. I'm in Melbourne. I too remember setting the video recorder to tape them!! I even used to phone up Channel 9 when they were aired there to ask what date in the year they were going to be shown!! So amazing some of the footage you have. I'd love to see a video about Australia's history in the pageants. I was always so disappointed that they were never really considered "important" here - and as a result I think the organising bodies here struggled, and things always seemed a little disorganised from our end. Certainly from what I remember growing up here, they always seemed to be a little politically incorrect and not taken seriously. Thanks so much for all the effort you have put in here on your channel - well done!
It’s so rare to find other pageant super fans in Australia, so it’s awesome to connect! I’m in Sydney - thankfully the borders have reopened!
I remember when I missed MU 1988 and I got my mum to call Channel 10 to ask if they would re-air it. They were kind enough to write me back to explain why they couldn’t - thank heavens for RUclips!
I should consult you to do some research on Miss Universe Australia - admittedly pre-Jen Hawkins I’d lost interest in the local pageant system, so I’ll need to brush up on MUA’s history. Being in Melbourne, have you been to a MUA Final? Thanks for the kind words! Hopefully we can meet up some day! Roger (aka TPN)
The Pageant Nerd So nice to meet you Roger, and to hear back from you! James here by the way 🙂
I think the Australian super fan is a rare breed, but I always figured there must be others. We are not alone!
Thankyou so much again for your videos. I’ve watched a lot of pageant videos, and yours really are a cut above the rest!
Yes thankfully the borders have opened again. I hope you have been ok through the crazy covid time?
I would love to help you out at anytime! I had done a bit of research over the years on the pageant here. I was even in touch with the woman who was the director for it here for a while. She used to be the organiser for a few pageants here. I even got to be a judge once at a local heat for the national competition for the Miss Hawaiian Tropic Australia pageant. It sounds a bit more exciting than it was. The heat was held in a night club here in Melbourne! Alas I’ve yet to make it to the final of Miss Universe Australia here in Melbourne. It’s on my bucket list. You should come down for it!
I have nearly watched all your videos now. Not sure what I’ll do when you have finished - but thankfully you are still making them!
Would love to chat sometime. My email is: jameswalker68@hotmail.com
Hope all is well with you, and keep up the amazing work! Best wishes. James (fellow PN!)
Legend has it that Texas winning five years in a row was what prompted the top 6 and final 3 format in the 1990s, to make the pageant less predictable in which the front runner could be out of the running.
The Golden Years of Miss USA where the winners are classy, smart and beautiful unlike today, they are totally ugh.. forgettable.
For me, Miss Gretchen Polhemus (Miss USA 1989) is the best...
This could happen someday at Miss Universe & Miss Teen USA too.
You never know! Which country do you think could do this at MU?
@@PageantNerd Philippines or Venezuela or even the USA.
Those three powerhouse nations can pull off "Philippines Aces" "Venezuela Aces" "USA Aces".
Philippines was able to pull off a back to back victory at Miss Earth in 2015.
USA has Texas Aces & let's not forget, Venezuela did a back to back victory at Miss Universe 2009.
Mexico had the Jalisco btbtb with ximena Navarrete wining miss universe
Hello when will third part come?: )
I’m posting it as we speak ☺️
Texas 1986-89 all wore the same evening gowns for both Miss USA and Miss Universe-- a practical and cost-efficient yet still very much glamorous move.
I think some were very similar dresses, e.g. Michelle Royer in 1987 wore the same design but in different colours. I believe it was Laura Harring in 1985 who wore the exact same dress at Miss USA and Miss Universe. But you’re right, Courtney Gibbs and Gretchen Polhemus had very similar gowns in their national and international competitions.
Miss USA 1986-1987-1989 all wore different gowns at Miss Universe. Christy's 1986 Universe gown (like all of the Texas-USA and USA winners) was made by their state director, GuyRex. Christy's gown was reported to cost almost $10,000, ; as they were all but certain that Christy was going to become their first Miss Universe titleholder.
Pls make a video about dark ages of the philippines
I covered that a little in the longest placement streaks series, when I mentioned the 10 consecutive years of non-placements followed by 10 straight years of placing. But I do intend to do a full assessment of Philippines’ performance at MU!
I wonder what were the other states thinks about Miss USA show while watching it back then... were they praying like "please, no winner from Texas this year.. please" I can't imagine their faces 😂
Kindly pls can you make a video of how it come about in 1988 that it’s 4 Asians in Top 5!
Nice idea! I’ve always wondered that myself. I initially thought it might’ve been the makeup of the judges but from what I know that shouldn’t have been a factor. It was interesting to see that USA and Dominican Republic, who performed so well during prelims, really weren’t a factor on finals night. Was nice to see some different countries featured! It might make a nice clip about surprising occurrences in MU’s history - thanks again!
Todas eran chinas, las 5 eran chinas por qué la Miss México es China-poblana así se llama el atuendo típico de la Puebla.
No commentary on Miss America.......would love to hear your insight
To be honest I’ve never watched a Miss America pageant!
@@PageantNerd No time like the present lol. Your insight would be great to hear.
Pls make a video about 2009 asian blackouts
Thank you! Yes, the lack of Asian (and at times black) women in the semifinals at MU has been worrying. Nice idea!
What an amazing content! I do enjoy it a lot. All of these five women are well-deserved winners. Most of the Miss USA Winners of the 80s decade are absolutely fabulous in their own way, but one thing I can't really figure out was Kim Seelbreede's win in 1981. She was just ridiculously overrated whereas there were many stronger delegates competing that year.
I loveD
Texas/USA 1989 and 2001 both finished 2nd runner-up, were both blondes and had the same eye color.
Yes, there was a certain “look” that was successful in those days - the All-American ☺️
Texas USA 1989 was a brunette! Her hair was dyed by the sun for Miss Universe Pageant.
No matter how pretty these women were, that fact that the black women were finally getting looked at as beautiful women was telling!
Courtney Gibbs is the most beautiful out of them all
She was absolutely spectacular, wasn’t she?!
@@PageantNerd definately
I have been told that the most beautiful women of the USA are in Texas.
That would be correct.
Where is Kim Tomes?
This was covering the five consecutive victories only, not all Texan winners of Miss USA
Make a video about asian placement in miss universe
Another great idea, thank you!
Is Laura Mexican??
Yes, Laura was born in Mexico and lived there as a child!
Laura Elena Martinez Herring from El Paso, Texas. A somewhat surprising winner of Miss USA as some believed her slight accent would hurt her chances of winning.
Mexican American
Who would complain if there was riggory when you got the gorgeous Courtney Gibbs and Gretchen Polhemis as winners?
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Who broke their winning streak in 1990
At Miss USA 1990 Texas placed Top 12, with the winner being Carole Gist of Michigan, the first-ever African-American woman to win the title.
@@PageantNerd thnx for the information
After their five peat, Texas only won three more times since 1990. Texas' performance at IMG era is complete opposite from the Texas Aces era, Texas only placed once in 2018.
Yes I think there’s an intention to have diversity in the winners, so one state winning five times in a row seems virtually impossible these days
Winning 3 more times is still a lot of times to win.
@@simonseville1037 IMG era favored the girls from District of Columbia than Texas.
Just think Halle Berry was Miss Ohio and 1st runner up. Guess who became famous?
Yes just like One Direction and Jennifer Hudson (neither of whom won their talent competitions that kickstarted their careers) you don’t need to win all the time to come out on top in the end!
@@PageantNerd yes but in this case, she would have made the Miss USA crown even more valuable if she would have won. But no one can predict the future. She has, of course, become one of the most famous “non winners” in pageant history.
@@PageantNerd I agree, you don’t. It makes people feel like they chose the wrong person. Granted, as you said, no one can predict the future as to who will be more successful in their careers. As a judge of many pageants, I look at “potential towards their career goals” and who I think will succeed outright. It’s called the “it factor”. Either you have it or you don’t.
That’s funny because all world 🌎 pageant expert said Miss USA 🇺🇸 1988, was the weakest of the 5 Miss USA’s winners 1985-1989
passado, chocado
Of the five, Courney Gibbs' win was the most precarious. She didn't win Swimsuit OR Evening Gown (all other four Texas Aces won BOTH), and California gave a better final answer. I wouldn't be surprised if the judges split 6-5 that year in picking the winner.
Richard Guy (GuyRex) said that he was surprised by Courtney's win. He said that he was shocked because the voting was so split in an interview with USA Today after her win. Which also goes to show that they showed the voting afterwards to alleviate any fears of cheating. So it probably was a 6-5 split. based on who made the top 5 that year at Miss Universe, Diana probably would have done better than Courtney.
Courtney won because California look old, Gibbs are wonderful look like a princess so fresch
@@robinquinc329 Where did you hear about all this interesting info? I was a huge Miss Texas USA cheering from home kid and heard about the famous GUYREX Texas Aces - something that will NEVER be duplicated. I think both men are now passed:(
@@dy1497 Back when, pageants were big business and news USA Today used to provide lots of coverage.
In 1986, when Christy Fichtner was at Miss Universe, they did a feature story on her (front page) about how she was favored to win Miss Universe. They did a cover story on Guy Rex the day of Miss USA 1987 talking about their two contestants (Texas-Michelle Royer and California-Lori Dickerson). After Texas won, they offered lots of coverage. They even travelled to Taiwan in 1988 and wrote a Life cover story on the 1988 Miss Universe Pageant.
After Courtney won, they were interviewed by several news outlets and Guy said that when he saw the voting he was shocked. Miss Universe always let everyone know afterwards where the contestants ranked preliminaries and final voting. (Not sure about now).
But Courtney was not the overwhelming unanimous choice. She won but barely. As Guy said," the voting was so split". Courtney just won. Unlike the previous three before and Gretchen a year later.
Looking back however, Diana Magana probably would have done better at Miss Universe than Courtney. The judges that year favored dark haired girls (4 Asians and a Mexican). Diana fit that mold unlike Courtney. Even though, Courtney was not my choice for Miss USA ( I wanted Georgia); I was pulling for her at Miss Universe.
Rex Holt passed away in 2015 and Richard Guy passed away in 2019.
guy said that his ultimate goal was to have a Miss Universe. Sadly, it never happened for them but did with the Crystal Group who took over after they were kicked out.
@@robinquinc329 given how ranked votes worked, I would not be surprised if nobody got the majority of the #1 but the contestant with the most #2 votes win.
Too bad none of them won Miss Universe.
Y ninguna ganó!
Era la temporada de las Latinas.
Man Christy was robbed at Universe
Completely disagree. There's a difference between confidence and arrogance and Christy definitely personified the latter. Barbara Palacios Teyde was poised throughout the entirety of the finals competition and presented herself as the most thoughtful and articulate of the night. All of them are beautiful so at the end of the day that doesn't really come to play.
@@ML-xh6rdok
Yes she was robbed! Remember it well!
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