I don't quite see how the planes would fall from the skies because the cockpits are locked. Even if everyone was panicking and getting eaten on board, the pilots would still be safe until the plane lands. One issue would be if the air traffic control denied landing but the big airliners would be fine unless the pilots somehow died.
Unless one of the pilots was infected died and they had him in the cockpit turned and then the co pilot wondering wtf going then boom bite and getting eaten while the plane crashes
Granted that I have not seen New York in the series but, since TWD deviates from our own universe in terms of history, it's possible that 9/11 didn't happen so the regulations put in as a result wouldn't exist.
@@Kittensarecute111the one World Trade Center is literally half completed in the walking dead dead city… it also literally takes place in New York and a character in fear the walking dead mentions her husband dying during 9/11
Landing is just as dangerous as flying. Small planes wouldn't just fall out the sky, but jumbo jets I can see as without traffic control and communication to the ground, they wouldn't know where is safe to land if anywhere and there's a reason they can't just land anywhere. Even if they do try and make a controlled landing in say a cornfield, it is going to be extremely rough and probably end poorly.
Well you see in the walking dead universe the first flight took place in the year 1903 in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina by Orville and Wilbur Wright. As time went on flight grew into a great and quick way to travel. Until walkers began roaming the earth
Seems to me that slow moving trains would be great for transportation of goods, while at the same time attracting walkers into longer hordes to lead them to areas where they can be killed off with ease.
It’s definitely one of the more creative takes on the outbreak. Being in a confined space during this time is a terrifying thought, the dead in the water webisode did it pretty well too actually
@@Swell-Films I agree ! And they Most Scary Part is in an Normal Confined Space you have the Possibility to escape from the Walkers but in a still flying Plane thats not really an Option
Just imagine teaching history to kids 100 years after the outbreak (2110) and tell them about how humanity fought between them in this flying machines by thousands. Just imagine a british boy learning about the battle of britain in 1940, and being incapable of imagine how that amount of flying machines coud have been possible in that far past. Well, there would be a lot of things that you would tell to the kids of 2110 that they would never believe at all.
post-post apocalypse Walking dead sounds like INCREDIBLE alternate series material with stuff like this, the only problem is they'd almost have to canonically confirm how most spinoffs and main series (at least within the US) ends.... Seeing entire nations go to war, perhaps based upon the teachings of one Rick Grimes or another impactful character go to war based on misinterpretations or people bastardizing their message for their own means would be incredible, political intrigue, drama, war, characters torn by the lack of a major "good guy"... the dead still being a constant background issue... SOOO much potential.
Reminds me of the Novel WWZ. It really goes into depth about a lot of this. I won't spoil a lot, but for example Russia becomes a mega orthodox state due to churches providing sanctuary during their version of the fall, North Korea "Gets Interesting", and a lot of countries like Canada contain the some of the last remnants of the undead due to them freezing and thawing in summer. Really interesting stuff.
I didn’t even think of how important that flight was in the walking dead series overall. I’m still kinda disappointed on how fast the CRM was dealt with but The Ones Who Live was only 6 episodes also Rick and Michonne dealt with it so makes sense story wise. It’s still interesting we’re getting more aircraft’s in the series. Flight can represent both hope and doom. Hope because that means the world is advancing with flight still being a possibility but doom because threats can use that against you/ if they have the means to have it as well. But your interpretation was good as always! I haven’t started Daryl Dixon season 2 yet but got me looking forward for season 3 and the future of flight in general.
I've never understood why planes just drop out of the sky during especially zombie apocalypse's. the cockpit is designed to keep people out, people with weapons. So I highly doubt zombies with their bare hands could get in. I think a more 'accurate' plot line should be they've had a breakout on board but they've managed to contain it by locking the zombies somewhere. But now they're running out of fuel and there's other injured people on board so they need to find somewhere to land FAST, ground control isn't speaking to them and when they finally find somewhere to land the plane is swarmed by zombies on the runway
It could be likely that the same tragedy that happened in our world, never occurred in this one. Remember, before all of that happened, the cockpits were usually left open and were easy to access. So chances are, the pilots either left the door open, the zombies broke down the door, or the pilots opened the door to see what was happening...
Don't forget Zombie hordes love to follow aircrafts. I remember that one in flying over Atlanta in season 1. I always thought survivors could use helicopters to lead hordes away from settlements and even off canyons, etc
The girl that Rick found in the woods (Anna?) from season 4, with her walker husbands’ head in a bag, the woman that tried to kill Rick, she also told a story about being stranded on an airport I believe.
I mean if the area is well guarded and safe hot air balloons would be one of the safest ways to traverse over zombies since they don’t really produce loud noises unless something goes wrong
Aircraft Mechanic here. Stopped actually watching TWD a long while ago but would definitely watch a comedy about someone trying to restore or maintain aircraft in the apocalypse
For the Military during the fall of September 10th of 2010 i have a canon theory not a Real Canon but my own Theory, we know the CRM was formed by National Guards who defied the orders from the Government. but wouldn't their be Navy Ships around the Ocean, like Aircraft Carriers Battleships and Battlecruisers around the ocean. its hard to believe where they were during the time, its likely they understood the whole thing, like when you Die you turn, and shoot them in the head, but i am wondering where are all the aircrafts?. we've only seen Blackhawks (during operation Cobalt with Shane seeing them and in FTWD) and a single Huey Helicopter (that was shot down by the Governor's group). there should at least be more in Airforce Bases and in many Areas. With this i think the Military is STILL Alive. just well hidden in the World. This is just my Theory its not FULLY True because we dont know where they are.
And also I feel that passenger and or air marshals could easily over power people unless 5 or more passengers were infect also I feel they wouldn’t let pilots fly if they were injured like a bite and also most of the infect if bitten they would most likely land if a passenger needed medical assistance
I think it is very interesting how they are still able to use helicopters planes etc when in universe it has been over a decade since the apocalypse. I’m pretty sure all of the vehicles would be useless after a couple years.
Several of the large communities have manufacturing and there's a lot of spare parts out there up for grabs anyway. Older planes and helicopters are taken out of mothballs all the time, it's just a matter of parts and doing the work tbh. A little of the rest is tv magic but it would still be doable to a degree. Especially if you preserve a collection of vehicles early on (likely what the CRM did)
I'd imagine all the pilots would have to be amateurs as most professional pilots would've died off during the apocalypse, let along be apart of a community capable of maintaining aircrafts, and on top of that be willing to properly teach people how to use said aircrafts
Vehicles lying around unused should be good considering they're in a sheltered hangar. The most unrealistic part is the fuel and gas. They would expire within a set amount of time and without the chemical engineers / gas companies mixing and creating gas they would be unusable or expire around 2 years time or so
I don't know who does the maintenance on these helicopters, but as a former Huey mechanic I can tell you for every hour of flight, they need 3-5 hours of Maintenace. Not to mention, a TREMENDOUS amount of spare parts of all kinds. To have any number of helicopters flying is unrealistic.
I am happy they didn’t abuse the helicopter or airplanes in the show. Trained pilots are in high demand, You can’t just climb into one and fly away. Including a very resource intensive piece of machinery and spare parts. You have to also have the trained mechanics.
You see when you have overabundance of a thing you become picky, it applies to food, so why not on weapons. "No Timmy don't pick that gun, it has been on a dirty ground and has god knows what kind of germs on it! Blerg!"
If I'm correct Jet fuel which is fuel used in military aircraft,I think yes expires. However, just how long this is depends on the product itself and its storage conditions and hearing that Illinois National Guard survived I think there a possibility of Fuel Trained crews can maintain the fuel.
This is a bit different, but it could work for your channel: The question of the running car filled with supplies, and nobody in sight. Do you take it, or wait? I mean from the TellTale TWD game 🐢
The thing I don’t get is the junkyard people knew the crm. Why did they never tell crm about the saviors and let the crm deal with them so they weren’t having to give them half their stuff? By the time the crm are in the show they display willingness to conquer other communities and that would have been a way to get rid of negan and the saviors
You know what’s weird I remember seeing the helicopter again in season 8 I really thought Rick was dreaming. I would be confused and asking myself was that real or what. I always loved seeing the helicopters and I can see the world coming back with all of the different transportation like the train, cars and helicopters that’s it no planes.
I wonder if Mason will kill Rick. He was never there so. During the explosion, so presumably, he still out there. And not everybody is going to agree. With crc. I know I told you this before, but it bothers me. Mason is still out there. I wonder if Mason is going to kill Rick. When the franchise is ready to end. I know a lot of people don’t like Rick comic book death. But it haunts me. Thinking about it. It scared me even more than he has the element of surprise on his side. Similar to Sebastian. Since nobody outside of the world beyond knows about him, Could be a video. I’m scared, That, Jades never mentions Mason. As a trump card. In case. Rick and Michonne. Don’t accept the terms of her deathbed request. I hope I’m wrong. TY swells. It’s a loose and that definitely haunt me. Every day.
Well, think about it. Civilians usually have to interact with certain personnel to land their aircrafts usually. (Ex: Air Control). Without being able to make contact, many pilots would be unsure on how to continue. However, to those who fled by plane, after knowing about the Wildfire virus, they probably just ran out of fuel.
I don't quite see how the planes would fall from the skies because the cockpits are locked. Even if everyone was panicking and getting eaten on board, the pilots would still be safe until the plane lands. One issue would be if the air traffic control denied landing but the big airliners would be fine unless the pilots somehow died.
Unless one of the pilots was infected died and they had him in the cockpit turned and then the co pilot wondering wtf going then boom bite and getting eaten while the plane crashes
@@Dbear-p1m yeah but that wouldn't be an often occurring problem
Granted that I have not seen New York in the series but, since TWD deviates from our own universe in terms of history, it's possible that 9/11 didn't happen so the regulations put in as a result wouldn't exist.
@@Kittensarecute111the one World Trade Center is literally half completed in the walking dead dead city… it also literally takes place in New York and a character in fear the walking dead mentions her husband dying during 9/11
Landing is just as dangerous as flying. Small planes wouldn't just fall out the sky, but jumbo jets I can see as without traffic control and communication to the ground, they wouldn't know where is safe to land if anywhere and there's a reason they can't just land anywhere. Even if they do try and make a controlled landing in say a cornfield, it is going to be extremely rough and probably end poorly.
0:53 Quite literally, Rick and Negan acted like they saw actual aliens when they saw the CRM helicopters
Goes to show how long they've been without technology.
This story telling is way better then tales from the walking dead keep it up mate
Haha thanks so much mate!
I really liked the flight 462 web episode
I did too, although I wasn’t a fan of the direction they took with Alex’s character.
Same, it's a shame Alex was never even brought up again after season 2
Yeah I always try to mention the webisodes to new viewers. If you're just watching on Netflix, you won't know about them.
Well you see in the walking dead universe the first flight took place in the year 1903 in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina by Orville and Wilbur Wright. As time went on flight grew into a great and quick way to travel. Until walkers began roaming the earth
Brb, making a Wright Brothers article for the TWD wiki.
Seems to me that slow moving trains would be great for transportation of goods, while at the same time attracting walkers into longer hordes to lead them to areas where they can be killed off with ease.
Just at the Right Time🗿 i swear still being in a Plane in Monument Day like in that Web Episode would be one of the Most Scary Things ever
It’s definitely one of the more creative takes on the outbreak. Being in a confined space during this time is a terrifying thought, the dead in the water webisode did it pretty well too actually
@@Swell-Films I agree ! And they Most Scary Part is in an Normal Confined Space you have the Possibility to escape from the Walkers but in a still flying Plane thats not really an Option
Just imagine teaching history to kids 100 years after the outbreak (2110) and tell them about how humanity fought between them in this flying machines by thousands. Just imagine a british boy learning about the battle of britain in 1940, and being incapable of imagine how that amount of flying machines coud have been possible in that far past.
Well, there would be a lot of things that you would tell to the kids of 2110 that they would never believe at all.
post-post apocalypse Walking dead sounds like INCREDIBLE alternate series material with stuff like this, the only problem is they'd almost have to canonically confirm how most spinoffs and main series (at least within the US) ends....
Seeing entire nations go to war, perhaps based upon the teachings of one Rick Grimes or another impactful character go to war based on misinterpretations or people bastardizing their message for their own means would be incredible, political intrigue, drama, war, characters torn by the lack of a major "good guy"... the dead still being a constant background issue... SOOO much potential.
Reminds me of the Novel WWZ. It really goes into depth about a lot of this. I won't spoil a lot, but for example Russia becomes a mega orthodox state due to churches providing sanctuary during their version of the fall, North Korea "Gets Interesting", and a lot of countries like Canada contain the some of the last remnants of the undead due to them freezing and thawing in summer. Really interesting stuff.
I didn’t even think of how important that flight was in the walking dead series overall. I’m still kinda disappointed on how fast the CRM was dealt with but The Ones Who Live was only 6 episodes also Rick and Michonne dealt with it so makes sense story wise. It’s still interesting we’re getting more aircraft’s in the series. Flight can represent both hope and doom. Hope because that means the world is advancing with flight still being a possibility but doom because threats can use that against you/ if they have the means to have it as well. But your interpretation was good as always! I haven’t started Daryl Dixon season 2 yet but got me looking forward for season 3 and the future of flight in general.
Thanks mate! Yeah the CRM is still a huge bummer, would have been cool to look for connections across the spin-offs
your storytelling is absolutely fantastic, i’ve binged all of your videos in the past week! keep them coming! 😊
Thanks so much mate I appreciate that!
I've never understood why planes just drop out of the sky during especially zombie apocalypse's. the cockpit is designed to keep people out, people with weapons. So I highly doubt zombies with their bare hands could get in. I think a more 'accurate' plot line should be they've had a breakout on board but they've managed to contain it by locking the zombies somewhere. But now they're running out of fuel and there's other injured people on board so they need to find somewhere to land FAST, ground control isn't speaking to them and when they finally find somewhere to land the plane is swarmed by zombies on the runway
Yeah that makes a lot more sense.
It could be likely that the same tragedy that happened in our world, never occurred in this one. Remember, before all of that happened, the cockpits were usually left open and were easy to access. So chances are, the pilots either left the door open, the zombies broke down the door, or the pilots opened the door to see what was happening...
Don't forget Zombie hordes love to follow aircrafts. I remember that one in flying over Atlanta in season 1. I always thought survivors could use helicopters to lead hordes away from settlements and even off canyons, etc
The girl that Rick found in the woods (Anna?) from season 4, with her walker husbands’ head in a bag, the woman that tried to kill Rick, she also told a story about being stranded on an airport I believe.
Yea, Headie....
Eddie. I mean Eddie.
"If helicopters can't save them, what can?"
Be the main character
I hope we get to see some of this play out in Dead City S2, since it's set further in the timeline.
100%! This is the time to expand the world
TOTAL 3-1 BRA, You a master of *THE CIRCLE PLANS!* Man Ty...Wel done.~
I really like the idea of a globalisation in twd, but I really really hope that the scientists who created the virus finally find a cure
I'd not thought about hot air balloons but that is actually a pretty clever way to travel.
I mean if the area is well guarded and safe hot air balloons would be one of the safest ways to traverse over zombies since they don’t really produce loud noises unless something goes wrong
Aircraft Mechanic here. Stopped actually watching TWD a long while ago but would definitely watch a comedy about someone trying to restore or maintain aircraft in the apocalypse
Your videos make me want to rewatch all the shows for the 8th time
the US in TWD universe having its first ally being France is pretty awesome considering they were our first ally during the revolution
Fuel and Daily Maintenance is needed to keep such Air Units in the air. Otherwise, we maybe the Germans back in World War 2.
2 WORDS. PURPLE. NURPLE.
The crm is literally the enclave(but a lot weaker and way less evil)
For the Military during the fall of September 10th of 2010 i have a canon theory not a Real Canon but my own Theory, we know the CRM was formed by National Guards who defied the orders from the Government.
but wouldn't their be Navy Ships around the Ocean, like Aircraft Carriers Battleships and Battlecruisers around the ocean. its hard to believe where they were during the time, its likely they understood the whole thing, like when you Die you turn, and shoot them in the head, but i am wondering where are all the aircrafts?. we've only seen Blackhawks (during operation Cobalt with Shane seeing them and in FTWD) and a single Huey Helicopter (that was shot down by the Governor's group). there should at least be more in Airforce Bases and in many Areas.
With this i think the Military is STILL Alive. just well hidden in the World.
This is just my Theory its not FULLY True because we dont know where they are.
I could see that for sure. Like an enclave type of shadow government
And also I feel that passenger and or air marshals could easily over power people unless 5 or more passengers were infect also I feel they wouldn’t let pilots fly if they were injured like a bite and also most of the infect if bitten they would most likely land if a passenger needed medical assistance
It would be cool to see Rick fly to France. To check on Daryl.someday
Bros a pilot now, totally possible. Although I’m sure helicopters are different compared to planes
I think it is very interesting how they are still able to use helicopters planes etc when in universe it has been over a decade since the apocalypse. I’m pretty sure all of the vehicles would be useless after a couple years.
Several of the large communities have manufacturing and there's a lot of spare parts out there up for grabs anyway. Older planes and helicopters are taken out of mothballs all the time, it's just a matter of parts and doing the work tbh. A little of the rest is tv magic but it would still be doable to a degree. Especially if you preserve a collection of vehicles early on (likely what the CRM did)
That makes sense
I'd imagine all the pilots would have to be amateurs as most professional pilots would've died off during the apocalypse, let along be apart of a community capable of maintaining aircrafts, and on top of that be willing to properly teach people how to use said aircrafts
Vehicles lying around unused should be good considering they're in a sheltered hangar.
The most unrealistic part is the fuel and gas. They would expire within a set amount of time and without the chemical engineers / gas companies mixing and creating gas they would be unusable or expire around 2 years time or so
I think personally in the TWD universe the first instance of flight was in 1903, when the Wright brothers flew a plane at kitty hawk. I might be wrong
bro know how to cook ❤
Could you do twd dark campfire stories again pls?
Yes absolutely!
The faster the airplane flying to another country the slower the virus mutates it’s host
I don't know who does the maintenance on these helicopters, but as a former Huey mechanic I can tell you for every hour of flight, they need 3-5 hours of Maintenace. Not to mention, a TREMENDOUS amount of spare parts of all kinds. To have any number of helicopters flying is unrealistic.
Great video
the hot air balloon would be the best way to fly in the twd world since its a simple design with low fuel costs
True, but it would also make you a big slow target
@@Swell-Filmsfor who?
@@fabled9328 bandits/killers
I am happy they didn’t abuse the helicopter or airplanes in the show. Trained pilots are in high demand, You can’t just climb into one and fly away. Including a very resource intensive piece of machinery and spare parts. You have to also have the trained mechanics.
Cool video
L❤️VE This,
Thank Y💎U‼️
OOOO i wonder how many Boeing flights boosted the walker population….
walkers: raaaah
Ah-64 Apache: and i took that personally
I just kinda got annoyed with how many times people would just pass over all the weapons that were on the ground lol 🤣
You see when you have overabundance of a thing you become picky, it applies to food, so why not on weapons. "No Timmy don't pick that gun, it has been on a dirty ground and has god knows what kind of germs on it! Blerg!"
If I'm correct Jet fuel which is fuel used in military aircraft,I think yes expires. However, just how long this is depends on the product itself and its storage conditions and hearing that Illinois National Guard survived I think there a possibility of Fuel Trained crews can maintain the fuel.
You should cover flight 462 as a campfire story if you haven’t yet
oath, a survival instinct reference
Interesting
Trains next???
I can totally look into it!
This is a bit different, but it could work for your channel:
The question of the running car filled with supplies, and nobody in sight. Do you take it, or wait? I mean from the TellTale TWD game 🐢
The thing I don’t get is the junkyard people knew the crm. Why did they never tell crm about the saviors and let the crm deal with them so they weren’t having to give them half their stuff? By the time the crm are in the show they display willingness to conquer other communities and that would have been a way to get rid of negan and the saviors
I dont know much either but its jets not plane, its the engine. Mostly we dont see planes in the modern era which for twd started in 2010
You know what’s weird I remember seeing the helicopter again in season 8 I really thought Rick was dreaming. I would be confused and asking myself was that real or what. I always loved seeing the helicopters and I can see the world coming back with all of the different transportation like the train, cars and helicopters that’s it no planes.
It’s definitely cool to see how the world evolves over time!
@@Swell-Films indeed but look in Dead City how they have the cars working. That’s a lot of services to do.
WEB pisode question ¿ l would like to know if the bicycle lady's children made it safe to evacuation zone?
I gave you the 30th 👍.
Flight team stand up
What episode is the shot at 9:51 from ?
Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 2
I would like to know what happened in Chicago....just cause I live here
What happened to Heath?
I wonder if Mason will kill Rick. He was never there so. During the explosion, so presumably, he still out there. And not everybody is going to agree. With crc. I know I told you this before, but it bothers me. Mason is still out there. I wonder if Mason is going to kill Rick. When the franchise is ready to end. I know a lot of people don’t like Rick comic book death. But it haunts me. Thinking about it. It scared me even more than he has the element of surprise on his side. Similar to Sebastian. Since nobody outside of the world beyond knows about him, Could be a video. I’m scared, That, Jades never mentions Mason. As a trump card. In case. Rick and Michonne. Don’t accept the terms of her deathbed request. I hope I’m wrong. TY swells. It’s a loose and that definitely haunt me. Every day.
Jet fuel would be more rare than regular fuel
the crm is so fucking silly looking.
They don’t care they’ll destroy you otherwise
Actually it was just a poor screenplay script but it's fun to say afterwards it's in another universe 😅
you missed your appourtunity to put the clip of "flight" .. lol just started watching sorry to both ya
7:10 god I’m so sick of this franchise.
Personally i dont het why so many civilan airlimers went down
Well, think about it. Civilians usually have to interact with certain personnel to land their aircrafts usually. (Ex: Air Control). Without being able to make contact, many pilots would be unsure on how to continue. However, to those who fled by plane, after knowing about the Wildfire virus, they probably just ran out of fuel.