Hasselblad X2D 100c | NEW Firmware v3.1.0 | ALL NEW Features & One Disappointment
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- This video is my comprehensive tutorial on all new features which the Hasselblad X2D 100c got with the recently published new Firmware v3.1.0. It turns out that Hasselblad did a great job providing Hasselblad-X shooters with top-notch feature upgrades. But there is also one big disappointment included in my review which I will demonstrate live in detail.
Content:
00:00 Introduction: phase detection versus face detection :)
00:49 Sneak preview: Hasselblad XCD 2.5/90V
02:09 There was never a firmware v3.0.0, the question is why
02:59 You need also a firmware upgrade of the XCD V-lenses to v1.4.1
03:37 Finally we have face detection autofocus in the X2D 100c
04:31 Live demonstration of the new face detection autofocus
06:17 Live installation of the new firmware
07:27 You can now shoot in RAW, JPG and (this is new) HEIF
08:19 In the meanwhile the firmware upgrade completed - let's check
08:34 Phocus Mobile 2 finally has Live View for tethered shooting
09:09 Live demonstration of tethered shooting with Phocus Mobile 2
09:45 There is one big disappointment embedded in Firmware v3.1.0
13:00 Improved sensor calibration and the Hidden Menu
14:41 Improved compatibility with the Profoto A10 flash
14:46 Sneak preview and conclusions
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Again a joy to see! Very informative and professional! And I do not know how you always find these hidden programs!! Very well made!
Many thanks for your kind feedback!
Always super professional review
Many thanks, really appreciate your kind feedback.
Amazing video!!
Owning two x2d. How cool 🎉
Working tools :) Also when I travel for a photo shooting, I take two camera bodies with me. I had once a breakdown with one camera and was so grateful I had a spare body with me.
Great review, thanks for sharing the “secret menu” feature. Hope that future firmware update not only get the face detection right on live view, but implements the continuous AF as well.
I find the X2D AF very accurate and reliable anyway.
Thank you Ramon, much appreciated feedback. Autofocus tracking is something I am waiting for too. And your comment is spot on: I shot the XCD 2.5/90V over the weekend with face detection and yes, it is slow and also hunting forth and back in low light, but when the focus rectangle over a face turns green, the focus sits correctly at 100% of the shots. Amazing.
@@mathphotographer great! Looking forward to watch your XCD 90V test. Thanks!
I just assumed that face detection wasn't available for tethered shooting at the moment, but I'm fairly certain it will be added in the future firmware updates.
Math, thanks for showing us the SECRET MENU like you did with X1D camera. I wonder why Hasselblad feels they need to keep it hidden? It is not like it will damage the camera right? Great video as always! Love your channel.
Thank you very much. Why they hide the secret menu ... no idea. But as long as it can be activated, ok for me :)
If possible regarding the Sensor Calibration update, does this map hot pixels in the raw file to the degree that Adobe and other RAW editors no longer have them visible? Previously I believe coordinates were only fed to Phocus. Thanks!
Correct - so far single defect or stuck pixels were automatically removed by Phocus, not by Adobe software. I need to test this once in a while, I currently have no stuck pixels on my sensor. I will try to find out via high ISO and long exposures and "provoke" the sensor a bit :) My hope is that the update changes from Live View only fix to real fix in image output.
Math, thanks 🙏 I think Hasselblad really need to watch your video, watch 10 times maybe, and also read all the comments … while we can wait patiently for firmware 6.1 😂
Hi, did you test the behavior of the face recognition, when there is more than one face in the picture? Thank you
Happy New Year I would like some advice on how to use the Hasselblad X2D 100c to photograph landscapes with large depth of field (with or without autofocus) thank you very much
hello thank you one more time for the amazing review...the lack of face detection recognition when is tethered is really bad...and didi you try tethered with cable ? to iPhone or Ipad ? and to a computer ? its the same with cable? no face detection? thank you advance
Can't wait to see your 90V review. Could you compare it with the xcd 90mm f3,2 to see if it's worth the upgrade? 👍🏻
Let's see what I can do. Many thanks!
Thanks for this very comprehensive video. Sadly, there is one point in the new Face Detection for which I can find no instructions or clarifications on - and that is the difference between the Auto & Manual choices. Was hoping that you would embellish upon those more, when & where to use one or the other.
Ok - will try to find out and include in my lens review of the XCD 2.5/90V. Video will be posted next couple of weeks.
Thank you. Looking forward to it!
great!
Thanks!
How long did the firmware update take? Thanks 🙏🏻
Glad to see the Hassy now has face detect. But is it good enough that you don’t usually find the need for eye detect? As in portrait photography now on the Hassy, do the eyes remain in sharp focus? Because face detect where say the nose is in focus but not the eyes, makes a face detect function pretty useless.
Regarding : face detection, does face detection work with the X2D tethered to a M1 Mac book pro? If it dose, can you mirror the image on to an IPad screen?
could you talk about how weather resistant the x2d is in the field such as againist snow
wait is that a lens update? where do you find that???? Ive been looking for that update file for awhile now
The how-to parts of these videos are great. That is an incredible fail shutting off their already minimal face detection when live view tethering is enabled. Crazy. Question -- can firmware be installed via the iPhone app, rather than through the removalbe memory card? (Similar to Leica-M)? Thank you!
Yes - Phocus Mobile 2 supports firmware updates. Whether it works is another question, but generally yes.
Hello, Yes it all works including the liveview wifi works to both iPhone and iPad. It eveb seem faster with the older XCD lenses. I have miss the face detect when tethering? I think that is a bug that they over looked when testing. But will be great to fix soon I hope.
Maybe they see this video and realize that tethering kills the face detection :) Nobody talked about that so far, strange.
I would love them to see your youtube may be you could share in to there service page.@@mathphotographer
@@johnhjic2 I have a direct contact at Hasselblad, we discussed in the past a more elevated collaboration. But I have not yet come to conclusions :) Fact is that my channel is on their radar screen, they have either known before or know now that there is an issue. Other comments say that Hasselblad is aware and that they work on an update for their Phocus software to fix the issue.
I to have sent a message to there service email about this, So the more they hear about it, may get them to look at it. If I have not had a replay when I next see the Hasselblad chaps (in March I will rise it)@@mathphotographer
I hope X1D2 can also have the new update of face detection function
I hope so too, that would be great!
Many thank for your review, coud I ask you a question, how average size (mb) of jpg and Heif file on X2D ? I am current used the X1D II and want to upgrate to x2d but really consider about the size of the file. I just shoot jpg. Many thanks
Is there continuous auto focus now?
The touch to focus on the back screen doesn't seem to work after the upgrade...Not sure what happened here??
Thank you for the video. Strangly Hasselblad did not notify me of this firmware update. I wonder why? Anyway I installed the new version and went straight out to take some portraits. (I'm in Penang, Malaysia just now.) Very disappointed. The face detection worked fine but many of my photos were out of focus, not hugely but not something I've ever encountered before. It seems at first sight that the face detection focussed generally on the whole face rather than on specific areas like the (very important) eyes. And with a wide open lens this caused problems. I lost many otherwise good shots, so not generally happy.
Thanks Roger and best greetings to Malaysia :) I need to further test the lens. Your comment is spot-on in any case: the face detection algorithm does what its name says, it focuses on the face. But shot widest open, there will be parts of a face that are in focus and parts of a face that our out of focus. What I want to have is full sharpness on at least one eye. And that is typically not working when shooting widest open with face detection but without eye autofocus.
I wish you gave more information how to download the new firmware from the hasselblas site I have defecelty to do it
I can't find lens firmware version 1.4.7 on the Hassleblad website. The latest version I can find matches the versions on my 38mm and 55mm which is 1.4.1. Can you give me a link to the new firmware release for these two lenses? I have upgraded my body and want to update the lenses too. Thanks, I really enjoy the channel.
Is there multi face focus? + still I didn’t understand what is phase focus
Was waiting to hear from you about it.. disappointed too. I confidently took to a shoot & I was wondering what went wrong only to realise it deactivates itself . Uggggg
Yes - indeed not understandable why tethering deactivates face detection. The Hasselblad-X system is so outstanding when it comes to image quality. I just wished their software engineers would have a bit more motivation to meet half-way today's market standard in technology when it comes to focus tracking, features and all the good stuff a Fuji GFX100 II offers.
Do you think there will ever be a firmware update that gives functionality to the microphones and loudspeaker built into the X2D?
Not sure, actually is unlikely. What I personally believe IMHO is that Hasselblad planned for video but then decided for still images only - which is their home run since in photography they've always been Masters whereas video on the first generations of X-cameras was nothing to write home about. I also believe that with a 100MP sensor plus 4K video, maybe even 8K video, the compact camera body of the X2D would face heat issues - which is hard to fix without proper air ventilation.
I've owned each of the X series Hasselblad's and love these cameras. I've been searching for a few years how to adapt them to a tilt/shift version by acquiring lenses/adaptors. Do you know of a way to do this? I'm currently using the X2D and love to use this as a technical camera on occasions. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Bob. If you google my channel you will find various solutions to your problem. Just look for Hasselblad and T/S, e.g., here: ruclips.net/video/msD4OOEJU-w/видео.htmlsi=V_2M9ZVH18m1fD1y or here: ruclips.net/video/mMr_uSwsEc0/видео.htmlsi=06mv-LFBTVtrjZ9b .
@@mathphotographer Thanks you! Great site I look at every time you post a new video (and have for years).
Can face detection pick a face in a crowd?
Can you turn off noise reduction on X2D?
Also disappointing is if you select a crop mode, like xPan, and start live view, the camera automatically reverts back to “No Crop (645)”.
Yes - there is more work to do for Hasselblad on the firmware, I wished their software engineers would be more speedy and more spot-on. The hardware is so great, the image quality is one of the best you can get in the market but their software is just always kind of a bit pre-mature.
I gave up waiting for the V90 back in April and purchased the 80mm, when you review the V90 can you also do a comparison, and see if it is worth switching. Thank you.
The 80mm is outstanding. If you have that lens, forget about the 90V. Is not worth switching. Image quality with the 90V is at par with the 80mm and in terms of focus speed you will not miss a lot if you stick with the 80mm. Enjoy your 80 and write-off the 90 :) The 90 is for photographers who do not have the 80 and want the newest lens but there is not much to gain if you already have an 80 and consider the 90V.
@@mathphotographerand if I am deciding between getting 80 and 90V (waiting is not an issue for me) which one would you prefer of these two?
@@VitVids The 90V clearly is the more modern lens but to be fair and to provide a balanced answer, the 80 I know very well and know what fantastic images I get out of it. The 90V I have not yet shot often enough to conclude yet. I am happy to come back when the 90V was more often in my hands.
I'd like to see the face detection tested while backlit.
Backlight is not a problem but focusing in low light is a no go. Absolutely bad how this 90V lens performs in low light. In good light, the lens is terrific and image quality outstanding. In low light, good luck ... I had focus hunting for minutes before the 90V found focus or did never find focus at all.
Great Review Math - thank you. I checked with Hasselblad Tech support when I missed face detection while shooting tethered and this is the reply I received:
"Unfortunately the face detection via tethered shooting was not implemented in either Phocus version (desktop/ iOS). This is something that Hasselblad may try to implement in a future firmware update to the desktop/ iOS platform.
Thank you" -- Hasselblad Support 4 December 2023
Many thanks Thomas. Great that you shared the response by Hasselblad, much appreciated.
Thomas, thanks for checking this with the Hasselblad support. Question (I yet don’t have a X2D, can’t check for myself), is that getting lack of face detection the same issue tethered by wire or only a problem of WiFi tethering?
Yes - I only shoot tethered by wire and as soon as I plug into the computer - face detection goes away. However live view is working now with the X2D as Math explained and it is great. I believe Hasselblad Support's reference to "desktop/iOS" covers the lack of face detect under any tethering condition. @@rolandrickphotography
@@thomasriggs2914 Let's hope that Hasselblad issues an update for Phocus and Phocus Mobile too soon, it clearly is also in their interest that this new great feature also works when shooting tethered.
Hi, I read that 90mm leaf shutter is VERY noisy. is that correct? thank you
I need to further test this, so far there was no noise catching my attention.
@@mathphotographer thank you
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Wanna bet? That WiFi tether kills face detect issue is a bug they have overseen. Did you check the same things wired tethered - well that last two words, that's a pleonasm, isn't it? 😄
Thanks Roland. Check out the comment by @thomasriggs2914 - he asked at the Hasselblad support on the topic.
Face detection also doesn't work when using the AF-D button to enable back button autofocus. It will only work when the camera is in AF mode and using the trigger for autofocus. I love this camera, but Hasselblad needs to add some basic functionality available in other cameras.
I was also really disappointed to see face detection disappear while tethering through usb-c. But what i really regret is not having the option to save photos to the camera also while shooting tethered. It’s such a great feature to have your files backed up while shooting to the ssd and cf. I don’t understand why this isn’t possible when tethering.
Fully agree, thanks.
Alles nette Versuche den Af auf standard 2023 zu bringen… schade dass es kein Af tracking gibt - war letzten Monat in Island mit 2 Sony a7r4 und 14mm/20mm/24-70mm/40mm/200-600mm und hab mir schon überlegt auf Hasselblad umzusteigen aber es fehlt leider ein lichstarkes Weitwinkel - hab mit dem 14mm 1.8 und 20mm 1.4 klasse aurora fotos gemacht und befürchte dass mir ein 21mm f4 da die Laune im Urlaub rauben würde 😉 - 3 Blendenstufen ist schon viel - gibts ne lichtstarke alternative gern auch manuelle linse mit adapter die 100mp verkratftet? Wühl mich schon ne woche durch deine videos durch lg aus Österreich
Danke :) Das beste 21mm, welches ich je genutzt habe, ist das neue Super-Apo-Summicron-SL 21mm f/2 an der Leica SL2, absolutely brilliant. LG nach Österreich!
@@mathphotographer nette linse zum saftigen preis… werd mich zwischen x2d und gfx 100ii entscheiden müssen - leider ist die Objektivauswahl im gegensatz zu Vollformat sehr bescheiden … LG
Hassleblad X2D 100C better than Sony A7RV ?
Excellent.
The fact you haven't heard about it by others is because your reviews are the most profound and many will copy this simulating they found it out themself. 😂
About the remote issue with the Face detection it would not surprise me that they forgot about it and that the will be some serious cursing in the next HB meeting 😅
But to be honest ..adding Face detection to a camera of that brand and price in Nov/Dec of 2023 is IMO a disgrace.
Thanks for sharing and a great weekend
Thanks RS. Hasselblad is very late with face detection compared to other camera brands where this is bread and butter for a very long time. I wonder, as you said, when others pick up on my disappointment. I hope Hasselblad sees this video on a small channel like mine and fix this. Have a great weekend and all the best.
10:40 it’s possible that the App is overriding the Camera Body UI, It’s probably the IPhone App that needs to be updated
Also, there is no self-timer with tether shooting.
There is some software work to do on the Hasselblad side :) But let's also be fair and not forget that they are a small company although they should by now have access to the highly capable software engineers from DJI.
Hi. Great review as usual.
Please would you explain the difference between Face detection "Off and "Manual" Is this related to the lens control ring Auto/Manual position?
Also very much looking forward to your 90V lens review. I have just received my new 90V and have noticed that it is particularly noisy on shutter release. (quite a loud clonk) at least compared to my other two V lenses that are whisper quiet. I am interested to see if your 90V lenses are equally noisier than 38V and 55V. I have emailed Hasselblad with the comment but have had no response as yet. regards R
Many thanks, appreciate your kind words. My 90V is definitely not noisy, very silent focus and leaf shutter noise. Where the lens is terrible, is focusing in low light. Absolutely inacceptable how focus is hunting forth and back in low light. Will mention this in my forthcoming video.
Does this camera have AF tracking ?
No - AF tracking is nothing Hasselblad offers at this point in time. If you want that, the Fuji GFX100 II is a much better choice.
@@mathphotographer I just don't understand the same 100mp sensor as GFX, with PDAF, how hard is it to have some basic tracking AF, not for fast moving subject, but it sure helps keeping subject in focus preciously.
@@fatgrouch Fully on your side, its unbelievable that Hasselblad still has not come up with some form of continuous focus tracking. On the flip side of the coin, the images I get out of the X2D are just so good that I keep shooting Hasselblad cameras and lenses :) Would not want to miss that.
please please hasselblad need direct black and white options
Fully understood but I do not think that Hasselblad will offer that. Unfortunate but it is what it is.
But I have problem with phocus app.. It's so difficult to connect.. And also important because they have big MP 😭😭
What is your problem exactly? In my constellation, as you saw in the video, connection comes up instantly. Sorry to hear you face difficulties.
@@mathphotographer hi math..phocus doesnt work on my ipad pro...sometiimes can connect but 90% unable to connect...i heard on online discussion many people got this problem...i hope HB will listen and make the app more very easy to connect...
@@boyfermi Thanks for sharing, I will look into this.
The other thing that doesn't work (properly) with tethered WIFI shooting is auto exposure bracketing. When I have 3 exposures and 2 sec delay set, pushing the orange exposure trigger button on the iPad fires one shot (immediately). If I depress the shutter release button on the camera, I get the three exposures after 2 seconds. Weird and I think something that was overlooked.
Just wondering, are you french?
Sorry to hear it does not track.. So still not great for moving models..
Better than before since faces are now well recognized and the focus sits spot-on but tracking is not yet available.
I would suspect that focus needs an upgrade to include face detection.
How many photographer has a Hasselblad even to really talk about that 😂and how many of them care about taking photos for people 🤷🏻♂️
I do. 😂 And if you notice the X2D is always out of stock.
@@fredboyd6062 not only the camera but even the lenses, it is really hard to get one I guess, maybe you should wait a long time or buy a used one, that’s why I say not everyone has one, and even who has it may not necessarily do street or portrait photography.
I don’t quite understand why it has taken so long for hasselblad/DJI to come out with this feature (and yet still not implement it well with the back button focus button)… it really is basic in todays world. Such a pity
I stopped using phone since US trade war, matters not to me.
Fair point, thanks for sharing.
Face with an ‘f’?
As opposed to "phase".
@@andrewward7042Yes, thanks! :)
It's the accent I think, that causes the confusion.
@@mathphotographer
@@andrewward7042 Maybe yes, I am not native in English although I spent a lot of time in the US and lived there for a while. Guess the Swiss/German accent never completely goes away :) Its my language birth mark, lol.
Matthias (Matthew?), your English is perfect. Having an accent does not diminish that. I was simply trying to clear up a point that you were making. I really enjoy your videos and now I am contemplating switching to an X2D from my X-1Dii. Andrew.@@mathphotographer
i would love seeing a shootout with profoto a10