'Take Care of Maya' trial: Hospitalist testifies
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Witness testimony continuedin a $200 million lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital that was featured in the Netflix documentary ‘Take Care of Maya’. In 2016, at just 10 years old, Maya Kowalski was admitted to Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital for severe pain and was removed from the custody of her parents after staff accused them of "medical abuse." Her mother, Beata Kowalski, hung herself in her garage on Jan. 7, 2016, after going months without seeing her due to the medical abuse allegations, according to the family's attorney, Greg Anderson.
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Hospital staff are so sure in testifying its NOT CRPS , yet they billed Maya for the same diagnosis through insurance coverage. Doesnt make sense at all
they probably had to put the CRPS diagnoses....because for just sever pain i dont think it wold fly with the insurance company to give ketamine and propofol.... just so they could get reimburses for the crazy amout of Ketamine and i think propofol.
Exactly they have to code for insurance reimbursement, especially for expensive treatments, insurance companies try very hard to not pay and require very specific diagnoses. Unless you have state insurance they seem to pay for anything no questions asked
I’m not so clued up on this but, doesn’t a diagnosis require the doctor or the hospital to include specific treatment/medication to treat that diagnosis? I read that insurance charged them a little more or less than half a million dollars and CRPS was included.
The charts hundreds of pages. Once diagnosis is on there it stays unless md removes. The chart has prob at least 50 segments ( like files) so what happens a diagnosis written day one falls thru the cracks. It continues to repopulate daily unless changed. Is it not a good thing ? Of course not. But it happens. The first md should have been more careful to add Thad diagnosis once others disagreed with this diagnosis. What I’m trying to get across is that it’s not as easy or strait forward as it sounds. Do mds worry about the billing section. No. They don’t but ideally it should be someone’s job to review that part of chart.
@@NurseSue425 aaah I see. But if the CRPS diagnosis was never removed, that kind of implies she still had CRPS, no? Because didn’t they also charge Maya’s parents for the CRPS treatment even though the hospital claimed she didn’t have it?
I am sure Maya would give that 200 million dollar award back if it meant having her mom back .
I'm sure she would. The things this child and family has endured can not be fixed by money. But it is the fact that they "beat the system" with the bad employees helps ease their anguish.
Without a doubt 😢
she got way too much money
The hospital will appeal , and drag this out for years & years unless a settlement is reached.
Without a doubt you could see the money ment nothing to the family god bless them ❤️
Cannot stand it when someone is on the stand and says good question. Her arrogance is to much
Flirting with the lawyer...I hate doctors and lawyers...
Medical Doctors have a God complex. Yet they cause more harm than good! It’s a money driven evil industry. 😢
If you aren’t sure what a narcissist is, you’re looking at one right now!! This woman is absolutely INSANE! She won’t even admit to the possibility of her being wrong! People like this are why I say that there is a HUGE difference in educated and intelligent!!
She can be all intelligent, if she does not feel empathy ..
Must look good in swimsuit
She was negligent, ignorant, and incredibly unprofessional. But don’t throw around diagnoses. That’s literally the same thing she is being accused of. As mental health professional, it’s pretty disheartening to watch people use a real diagnosis to label someone as if it were an adjective. There are many characteristics one must have in order to be a narcissist. Not displaying guilt or remorse while on the stand is at the bottom of that list.
@@therealbe
Don't think too much into this. Narcissist is a comment section buzzword. It will just go away after a while like allt the others before.
These people who work in the medical profession, think they are Gods. I guess you have to be a narcissist to be one of those types. I've worked in the computer profession my entire life and would never think to condescend customers with my brilliance.
This is the danger of outside influence, once the hospital made up their mind and their goal was to catch her lying, then everyone on the staff was under that same impression. That really sucks...
This is EXACTLY it!! I see it all the time!
It’s like that gang mentality it’s awful
Why do doctors always come across as narcissistic
God complex lol
They think they're priests.
Because most of them ARE!…
Because they know they’re smarter than majority of other regular people. Some are way more cocky than others
Because they are…. I have a friend who is a Doctor in Arizona and she is a extreme example of narcissistic personality
Why shouldnt she play with her stuffed animals even if she had pain all over? Did you expect her to lie unmoving in the bed? Anyone in severe chronic pain has to move and change position every so often. They still would not be able to function. These doctors know nothing about chronic pain or basic physiology. A smidgeon of empathy would have saved them a lot of time spying on her to see if she moved. Why did you even bother documenting Mayas subjective complaints when the object of the exercise was to collude with your colleagues in an effort to demean both Maya and her mother?
Did Maya move significantly unaided? No, all they could come up with was she played with her toys, sat up, coloured a childs book and used the phone. Pathetic people. Was she seen getting up and walking normally around the room and with ease? No. Maya was genuine by this criterion. But the hospital staff are still distorting to cover their narcissistic asses. Maya should win her case on this video evidence alone.
Consent to treat cannot possibly cover this breach of privacy by videoing a child without her knowledge and without their parent's consent. Since when was videoing a patient used as a form of treatment? Whom did that ever cure? Cured by video? Laughable except these people drove Beata to her death.
I agree with you.
l've seen several videos of children & parents interacting when child abuse was thought to be happening in hospital room...and no ...the parent didn't know a camera was on and they were caught doing horrible stuff to their kids!.....so ...yes camera's are used in hospital room's when suspecting child abuse....
"Did you expect her to lie unmoving in the bed?"
Obviously yes if she is in a wheelchair and claiming she can't move even a centimeter on her own.
@@Nick2bad4u Did she really claim not to be able to move at all? You're a bit of a nut! She coloured books, answered the phone etc. That is moving a little. She did not hide this. She was not in a vegetative state. She had chronic pain. That does not preclude you from some movement. Even with chronic pain, a patient has to move to stay as comfortable as possible. Dont you get that? Persons with chronic pain can usually move.
There should be criminal charges filed.
After learning how warped those who cared for Maya in hospital were and all the lies told concerning Maya I don't believe a word these witnesses ( for hospital) speak.
Right.... And who paid for what you heard? All of these testimonies sound absolutely on point.
The medical testimonies... Billing is an entirely different department! Lol
Nurse Hagworth was the most damaging witness for the plantiff. It wouldnt surprise me if it ALL began with her.
@@bancatorres2455so is the Joint Commission. “Lol” (quoting you) and those JC reports they seem to say many damning things about the whole system of this hospital, don’t they? 😂-your comment did NOT age well.
My daughter has CROS. Was known as RSD. Our insurance will not pay a dime .. it doesn’t have a code. She’s our million $ baby
I’ve been a nurse for almost 17 years in critical care. I’ve seen this behavior from many providers and other healthcare team members unfortunately. I worked on a rapid response team for 7 years and was a fierce patient advocate. I’ve gotten into plenty of arguments with doctors, PA’s or NP’s and other nurses when I knew the patient wasn’t getting the care they needed. I developed breast cancer and complications after treatment so I left patient care in 2019 and now I do nursing orientation for nurses being hired into our organization and I speak to this specifically. I remind the nurses that pain is subjective and we can’t judge how a patient acts and discount their pain. I have had patients who have claimed to have a disease process that they didn’t have which was verified by blood work. This makes my blood boil that this poor mother had no other solution and that the family and Maya has had to endure this injustice while trying to deal with the loss of their mom/wife. I’m glad the verdict was in the Kowalski’s favor, they deserve every bit of it, but no amount of money can bring Beata back. 😢
RN here, I totally agree with you. For a while we were really focused on medicating for pain, but once the opioid epidemic hit, we seem to have swung way too far the other way again.
Lupus patient here... pain is no joke...
Wow, thank you so much for your dedication and empathy. I hope your health and treatment is on the up and up now. I wish more people in healthcare were like you.
I work in inpatient pharmacy and I’m glad to have people like you and other RNs I work with. I personally have a rare enzyme that metabolizes anesthesia and opiates extremely fast and I found this out when I shattered my arm. I’d love to show you my X-ray. I didn’t have an elbow anymore. I had an amazing sports orthopedic surgeon repair my arm and it was ironic being that I was always there for him for joint juice or whatever drugs he needed. God blessed me greatly with this surgeon and to this day, I still do not have arthritis. Thanks be to Jesus Christ. God bless you!
@@kaylariggs5188I work inpatient pharmacy and we are here! I’ve saved lives, including infants and children in an emergency situation.
These people are so cruel. It's hard to stomach the amount of abuse they inflicted upon the whole family. Why don't these people have to go to jail for child abuse and for violation of civil rights?
I’m interested in knowing if they all are able to still practice and have a license?
Because it’s a huge hospital across the US and they have excuses that this is what we have been taught and thought mom had munchousen by proxy and we were trying to stop all the damage those parents put on that poor girl. It’s a f ing game ins and doctors play to all make the most money out of this kid.
White Coat Privileges of Titles of No-Bility!
Because dont give me that goody goody good bullshit, money's a hit.
to paraphrase Pink Floyd.
They got a lot of cash. That's why. And the cruel way they operate generates even more cash.
They do not go to jail because they are the evil ones/hypocrites the scripture speaks of. Jesus calls them hypocrites, and in Eph 6:12 Paul calls them evil spirits in high places (They are literally everywhere.) on this earth. They are in every aspect of our lives. This is why really knowing God is so important. They are even in every religion today. It is important to find God as the Prophets, Jesus, Jesus was not "just" the son of God, but He was also a prophet. And the apostles. These are the ones we should be listening to. Not mankind, and the evil ones.
It sounds to me, by the charting notes and talking crap within emails and text messages they ALL were being prejudice, and they all bullied her to "catch" her lying instead of truly genuinely trying to find out what exactly was wrong.
She was groomed for foster care ( sex trafficking) to the tune of a quarter of a million 💸 dollars.
I couldn't of worded this comment more perfectly ❤
I hate to say it, as a healthcare provider, but I think this is true.
Power trips! Beata stood up to them and they were going to show Beata! I'm glad I'm not God bc they would all be in hell!!
@@lousylou😢😢 this makes me sad because I know there are great healthcare workers out there.
This lady clearly has never had any medical problems or illness with pain involved. She dismisses the little girl’s complaints and just comes to the conclusion that she is faking. When you have chronic pain, you learn to cope and push through the pain. This is a PERFECT example of a doctor that is performing her duties, coming to conclusions without listening. Doctors need to listen. BTW, she just said that she was ok with video taping this little girl without her parents permission. I’m glad the jury saw the truth and awarded the family two hundred sixty million dollars AND vindication. They were telling the truth.
Right on 💯👍💯
I saw a Dr for a skin condition......was explaining when it started and how it was differing over time etc. He had zero interest in listening to me and just wanted to biopsy it (it was a break out...not one area). I said, "you need to listen to me" at which point he yelled at the top of his lungs: "NO I DON"T!!!!" I immediately ended the appointment and reported him to the practice Administrator & terminated my relationship with the practice. The level of incompetence and arrogance is stunning.
@@mkneely4539What a moron! How does he scream that he doesn’t need to listen to you? That literally makes no sense.
Tamera you are sooooo right. I too have chronic pain and I have had to force a smile said I'm " ok " too many times. I get treatment for my pain but their is never going to be a " cure " for it. Thank you for educating new employees there is little education on people with chronic pain. ❤ God Bless you.
As an RN, we use additional therapeutic practices to help patients deal with pain that continues despite medication. Distraction is one of those therapeutic interventions. Maya playing with her dolls is a great way for her to distract herself from her chronic pain. To use it against her is abhorrent.
Surveillance without consent under THESE circumstances is outrageous.
Her whole tone is so condescending. Ego has no place in healthcare.
💯 agree. Her swaying side to side in her seat reflects her self- confidence.
... But unfortunately, it is WAY too common. Which is why I only trust doctors who have gained my trust over time.
She says that CRPS is extremely rare, but then goes on to state that she has treated many, many patients with CRPS. Doesn't make sense.
It does make sense. I have Chiari which is rare, I have seen more than 10 neurosurgeons and 15 neurologist that knew nothing of it. My neurosurgeon has seen many with Chiari because he has experience in it and that is who people want.
@@bancatorres2455yes but that’s a specialist dr u searched out… this is not someone that pple can search out for/to. I understand both of yr comments as I have RSD & something very rare that there is no known other cases of in the US & or other
?? That makes sense. There is website for rare disorders. While not all patients have something on this list (why its rare) there are certain specialists who treat rare disorders. Its makes sense.
I was just going to say this. There are so many nerve conditions that are not known. In reality, its not rare. Its the lack of research and interests that keeps certain conditions hidden. @@bancatorres2455
She’s guilty just like Sally Smith
If even a therapist can recognize that healing and finding the problems with a sick brain is a TEAM effort that involves both therapist and client-- then why is it so hard for doctors to understand that their patient is the professional of their life? LISTEN to your patients, you do not have all the answers all the time no matter how many years of experience you think you have on you
Thats what good practictioners used to do! Before Big Pharma and Government became Siamese Twins of Profit-Seas!
Because they have a lower EQ than a computer repair specialist. At least the computer specialist wants to help and fix the problem with the minimal amount of invasive action. And the computer specialist will guarantee their work.
I'm a RN. Basically this case is about the medical staff taking this patient off her pain meds. This is not a surprise since essentially they are doing this to everyone!! It's wonderful that this hospital has been found neglagent ! I'm so glad.
Almost funny that an institution that keeps big pharma in business, will try to deny a patient from the proper medication.
It wasn' t solely due to the Ketamine treatment .....the staff hated Beata ( the mother ) because she was a nurse and extremely smart. Knew everything about Maya's disease and treatment. The staff labeled her controlling and then of course diagnosed Beata with MBP and the social worker opened a case with CPS. I agree that Maya could've benefitted from Integrative medicine , but the Staff wasn't focused on a solution. They were focused on eliminating the problem , which they falsely concluded was Beata. Truly awful that the staff had blinders on , and cared little for Maya
Naltrexone is frequently used for pain in people that don’t respond to normal pain meds, love how she didn’t mention that at all. The problem is these people have zero empathy because they have no experience with sickness themselves
what if it was their family member being treated this way??????
Facts!!!!!!!!!
Exactly in fact they tried it for me because of EDS, it’s like she is clueless.
Maybe, but every individual responds to medications differently. She does not need to mention naltrexone 😊
Naltrexone also cannot be mixed with any narcotics, and is used for addiction also
I'm in pain every day all day and still work full time. What a dumb thing to say that Maya played with her stuffed animals. I'll give them my pain and Mayas and see how they go through life
As someone who deals with constant pain and no doctor will even run appropriate tests or scans to help me, I can empathize with Maya. They just assume I want pain meds even after I tell them that I don't want pain meds, wouldn't fill them, or take them and they still treat me like a drug seeker. This is the kind of "care" I've been given, and it's disgusting that our medical system is so broken. Doctors just make an opinion and stick to it even when the facts say otherwise. I'm in pain everyday, I get 3-4 hrs of sleep every single night because I can't lay down longer than that and I wake up barely able to stand. I had to find ways to cope with my pain because no one will find out why I'm in that much pain or do anything about it. Most people would look at me and think I'm not in pain because I've learned to keep it in, even when I feel like I'm about to fall over because I can't stand anymore. Doctors like these disgust me, because they are so lazy and arrogant that they can't see anything except what they want to see.
We can tell if someone is in pain. High blood pressure and pupils at pinpoints indicate pain. That’s how we can tell when an intubated patient needs more pain meds. I’m sorry for what you’re going through and neglect
I feel ya girl! I’m a bone cancer patient and I have been treated that way too 🤦🏽♀️
Tore my rotator cuff. Had to travel the next 5 days. No sleep …not a single position to get out of pain. I hate taking pain meds because in the past they made me feel sick and anxious. Refused them after my back surgery, like a dummy, and prolonged my recovery because I couldn’t ambulate.
…but this rotator tear was so excruciating that I was willing to do anything.
The ER Dr looked me in the eye and said, I don’t know you…your transient… I can only give you 1 pill.
I said I understood his point, but could he please imagine traveling for hours a day, for the next 5 days in this extreme pain. I told him it was terrifying to me.
I said, “I don’t know if you believe in God or not, but when you write that prescription for 1 pain pill, if you feel any guidance to on my behalf, please follow that ‘gut’ feeling. I’m gonna pray God will show you truth because I don’t use drugs and I never have used drugs or alcohol or ANY substance. “
I was SOOO thankful he gave me 10!
I made it through the travel days, slept through the pain and ended up only using 5. That was two years ago and I just had to throw the other 5 away so that I could cross the Canadian border.
@@Aryalanae as someone who has a relative who experienced horrible chronic pain from bone cancer the idea every patient shows the same symptoms one can just “read” is stupid. This relative died in terrible pain - yet no high blood pressure (this relative was talking meds for high blood pressure anyway) or “pinpoint” pupils despite pain nearly all the time.
I’m going thru the same thing right now
I live with horrible back pain every single day
I can’t stand too long. I can’t sit too long
I barely sleep. Maybe for an hour and wake up. Pass out for a few mins and wake up. On and on.
Then every couple months my back goes completely out. Where I can’t stand up all the way. I’m stuck bent over.
At some point it had gotten so bad last week that I couldn’t even walk!!
I was holding onto everything in my house to try to make it to the stairs. To PULL Myself up the stair rail on either side. To make it to the bathroom. I couldn’t sit down on the toilet without screaming in pain as crying.
And I got stuck trying to get back up.
I was dragging my left leg. It felt like my hip and leg on that side wouldn’t even work. My mind was telling my legs to work. But it wouldn’t.
I finally had enough and said I have to go to the ER.
I had to have help getting my pants on and socks and shoes because it’s freezing here.
I couldn’t get in the car. It took a LONG time. To get worked in
I couldn’t ever get “past the pain” like I could before. Before it was certain spots that was excruciating pain. But I could eventually work past it and get into a position that wasn’t that bad of pain. Still pain. But not as bad.
Well. When I got to the hospital it had gotten worse
My husband had to get a wheelchair just to get me inside and just sitting in the wheelchair was horrible pain.
My fingers were numb and hurting. My legs were numb tingling and hurting.
My whole bottom was completely numb and hurting tingling.
They went to do a CT scan
And I already had to have my husband help me into the hospital bed to begin with. And was stuck laying down at this point
Well. The one nurse grabbed one side and the scan technician grabbed my other arm and they sat me up so fast.
I screamed in pain and grabbed them both. And just got stuck in the most horrible pain at that angle
Then they laid me back down on the other bed find the scans. As I’m screaming because I’m having ti bend once again.
Got the scans
And they picked me back up
Once again as I’m almost up i get “stuck” in that grab of excruciating pain. And I’m holding onto the nurse and crying and saying I can’t get back on the bed. To get wheeled back. I just can’t.
I tried sitting on the edge and leaning back.
I tried laying back
Finally I had the nurse Just drop me on my face. So face first into the pillow is how I was wheeled back to the room.
And I couldn’t move at all. I was crying. Couldn’t breathe from my nose running so much and crying. And my face buried into the pillow and my hair in my face and mouth on the pillow.
I was trying to move my body and couldn’t.
My husband saw me and got the pillow out of my face and when he saw me crying even more and my face. He was like wtf. Did y’all just RIP her up and down ?!?
He was so mad
Because I came back even WORSE then I was wheeled back.
Now. They’re giving me tramadol
And something else. It didn’t work
They gave me steroids. Didn’t work
They gave me 2 shots of morphine. Didn’t work.
They gave me an oxy pill on the way out the door while saying “I don’t see anything on the scans
Just a few bulging discs”
I’m sitting there crying. In disbelief that they don’t see a thing. There is no way
I can’t even walk
Can’t stand or sit.
I had to go to the bathroom and get dressed to leave
And omg. It took forever
I was using a walker ay this point just to hold myself up. And my arms were shaking and wobbling because they’re so tired from holding up my entire weight of my body for so long, while my hands and fingers are tingling numb already.
I felt like I couldn’t even adjust my arm and let go to grab anything else. Because if I let ANY weight off of my arms and onto my legs and back. Omg. I’d be screaming.
After all that. I left the hospital in worse shape than I got there
That’s why I didn’t even want to go. Because that happened the last time my back went out. It was just more excruciating uncomfortable pain and I came home worse.
I can’t even lay on my couch comfortably. I try to put my hands under my bum just to try to shift over an inch. And can’t even do that.
I sit my hands under my bum and lift and fingers up on the couch. Just to raise my bum a little.
And that’s all the relief I get.
My husband has to put his hands under my bum and back and pick me up and move me an inch
Or pull me onto my side. Because I can’t even roll over.
They sent me home with steroids and muscle relaxers
I don’t feel like it’s my muscles
It’s always my lower back. And my butt bone that are the worst pain. All the time. Every day
I always feel like there is too much pressure on my lower spine
I was born with spina bifida and was diagnosed with spondylolisthesis when I was 23.
But they claim that won’t give me issues
Last time my back went out (which happens every couple months.. to where I can’t stand up straight.. and at least twice a year it goes completely out to where I go thru the whole can’t walk and excruciating pain deal like this last time). So it’s constantly happening. I’ve just had to deal with it
They told me physical therapy.
Cuz. I can move to do that I guess.
And The physical therapy they had me doing last time was the most ridiculous reg stretches I could be doing at home. Idk why I’m paying anyone to do that Bs
I want MRI ordered. But am going through such bs
But they tell me I have to go thru so long of physical therapy first just to get an mri
The chiropractor they sent me to before
I refuse to go back. I thought after the first visit geez. That made me worse. After the 2nd and 3rd visit. I said heck no I’m not going back. I came out of there crying in worse pain again.
Anyway. Sorry for long reply
It’s just I feel like I’m living in a NIGHTMARE. I’m constantly saying in my head “JUST WALK!!.. omg how hard is it to just walk and move my leg”.
Or “just stand up!!”
But I can’t
And I feel like NOBODY believes me about the amount of pain and that I can’t walk sit or stand.
They keep saying nothing is there.
Wtf
I am one person that doesn’t like going to the dr appts it hospital. Just to sit in pain there for so long.
Plus I have severe social anxiety.
So. It’s definitely something SERIOUS if I’m deciding to finally go to the dr and hospital
But I still feel like they don’t get it or don’t believe me
This woman is the scariest human being I have ever seen
Why? She is a competent physician. She does not fit your narrative at all.
@@bellrobeYeah…I’m not sure about the hate. I’m only 1/4 of the way through, but she seems competent.
They literally destroyed this family. And act like, it's nothing.
I don’t understand… If the hospital believed that Maya was faking and wasn’t sick, why didn’t they send her home? Wh6 did they charge for the disease that she didn’t have? The smile on the face of this “doctor” is disgusting. She is one of those who ruined the family, tortured the little girl and killed the mother.
Aldo disgusting om the face of nurse Amanda Flores. Did you see her testimony? She smiled very creepily the entire time. She was beyond weird and i was a jury on the fence she would have made My mind up
Because they are working to make money for corporate entities not patients. They no longer want to treat patients with genuine pain such as poor Maya, and they want to foist expenses onto others - so here they lied about her illness while trying to bill insurance companies for it. I sincerely hope the insurance goes after them as well.
You'd need to watch the entire trial. Maya wasn't allowed to leave, she was under dcf/social services care due to concerns over the mother and mayas safety.
She stated CRPS is “very rare” then in the next breath she says she’s treated “many” patients with it… did anyone catch that? Interesting indeed Doctor…..
I am watching this now, and just caught what she said.. had to replay it back since I thought my ears were deceiving me..this bimbo is acting g as if she’s high almighty too..insane,contradiction
I noticed that too and was surprised the lawyer didn't ask her how many patients she had treated since it's so rare.
She might have all these qualifications BUT DOES SHE HAVE COMMON SENSE. DOUBT IT.
Maya may have interpreted question “can you move your legs?” as “can you move your legs without pain”? The so called professionals have horrible assessment skills.
Dr Dees is painfully annoying and difficult to hear speak.
Having worked i a hospital for 30 years most drs wont ever admit they are wrong or make mistakes at least 3xs ive seen patients die because of the drs decisions
Dr Dees was all baby-voiced, trying to act Kardashian-like; and boy did it change when the “ketamine girl” text was brought up. These doctors at JH are all arrogant. It’s nice knowing that hospital has to pay now.
This case has just confirmed my opinions about doctors.. i stay away as much as possible
Me too!
They don't even trust each other and so are very rarely a patient themselves! They like to give 'medical care' not get it!
Mays is was a very good natured girl, who tried very hard to be okay for this gross team of undividuals who took and twisted Maya's childhood behaviors and her every effort, as some "proof" of their narrative, lousy personal ideas. Credentials mean nothing when character and empathy are void
Isn't videotaping a child going to the restroom child abuse? This was icky - I feel so bad for Maya. Also wasn't she like 9 or 11, and if her leg muscles are constricted and curled could she even touch the floor in the wheelchair. When my CRPS started with just the right foot, I could not move any of my toes or use the foot. Also, I had to be accepted 6 years ago by a renowned Doctor and expert in CRPS in the Chicago area. Why do people put their noses down at Pain Disorders?
My comment above comes from my experience as a pediatric nurse at the U of Chicago Hospitals. I'm glad you found help in the Chicago area.
As a Chronic Pain patient, whose mother has been endlessly harassed by doctors and nurses, I can n
back you up that medical staff turned on Chronic Pain patients when it became cool to pretend excruciating cannot just be thought away, or remedied by over the counter analgesics. There is more safety and money in diagnosing everyone who needs pain meds as addicts.
The doctor's nurse bullied my mom into self-weaning herself from Morphine, causing infinite harm. After doctors finally realized her pain required Morphine, they demanded a regulated pump. The doctor chewed her out for being a deug addict, looking for a fix when she told him she still experienced pain. She was hospitalized 3 times with seizures, where doctors bragged they would make sure she was quickly released. After my dad chewed out the doctor, he performed exploratory surgery, where he discovered the catheter broke off in her spinal cord, and meds were not reaching the necessary location. We have since learned this is common with pain pumps.
Five exploratory surgeries revealed no ability to remove this needle from her spine. Now, the doctors no longer flinch when they prescribe her meds. This woman has two letter S curves in her spine, and they still put her through hell!
The problem we run into is all about where the money is, and where the threats lie. Politicians are currently being paid off by parents of drug addicts who choose to use drugs for recreation. The only thing that matters to these politicians are the money that comes to them from selfish people who could care less about chronic pain patients. If you saw the amount of money awarded to d e a agents For harassing physicians, it would make you sick to your stomach. This is all a game of money and power.
These nurses and doctors are not heroes, but they are in their own minds. They will continue to be so as long as the government puts its nose in medicine, where it does not belong!
Chronic pain patients need to start suing doctors for their continual agony. That is the only way this behavior will stop.
Because they think that all chronic pain patients are simply drug seekers or addicts!! So not true…..
I’m seriously amazed how many people are siding with the hospital here. A ten year old isn’t manipulative as a general rule. Her pics and videos clearly show pain. This doctor thinks she’s better than everyone else. Video taping to prove her theory? What a joke! I’ve had doctors be wrong my entire life to the point I research my own symptoms. It’s infuriating to me that this even happened. The hospital should be out a whole lot more money.
I feel the same about how many don't see this wasn't the hospitals fault. Her symptoms didn't match with cprs, and that was multiple doctors. Her mum was demanding huge doses of medication, and it caused concern. The staff did the right thing for Maya. The dcf and court judge at the time didn't, imo. Also the father didn't help.
So much evidence was left out of this trial.
I dont understand their smirk on their faces( I’m referring to all the defense witnesses).
This case is so tragic, beyond words and you sit there w a standoffish attitude. They should all pay w their jobs and also they should never get rehired
Welcome to the world of the egoist medical professional.
They accuse the parents of abuse and yet they are the ones who abused her and her family.The mother is dead because of it. The staff however are not paying the $'s and can walk out of there with a big sigh of relief. It's wrong on so many levels.
They should all be kicked out of the medical profession. That attitude at McDonald's will get them fired immediately.
Around 8-10 minute mark she states CRPS is a rare diagnosis and then states she's treated many patients with CRPS. Seems contradictory.
That’s just medical lingo that we wouldn’t understand.
The coaching on this witness was extreme. She was lying, she lied and evaded a lot of questions. Poor Maya, she didn’t have a chance with all these Dr’s/Co-Conspirators.
The fact she even tried to defend ‘ketamine girl’ like ‘oh no my friends would never say it in a mean way’
Honestly lady, find another job 🙄
Anything to support the narrative the family has made with their awful 1sided documentary.
@@Nick2bad4uPERIOD. THANK YOU
To be fair, doctors have a lot of patients and they some times use memory cues to remember who they are talking about with the team. It’s not to belittle someone. Hospital work is fast pace and so many things to remember.
@@GOODYTOOSHNo! You do not get to disrespect a patient period. Wow!
@@GOODYTOOSHgross
Maybe she wouldn't "perform" for these doctor's and case managers because they had taken her away from her family. When you take away a child's trust it can affect their emotional behavior.Telling her she could go home for Christmas and then at the last minute telling her she could not go probably really affected her.🤔
This woman is the best example of accreditations and degrees mean NOTHING compared to REAL experience. I am a homeless outreach worker and I was homeless on the street for 12 years. I am more successful at getting my clients help than social workers and others with letters at the end of their name. I apologize, as I am not bragging. I am attempting to make the comparison of what I do to these highly educated, incompetent and maybe even criminal professionals.
I have no problem believing that at all.
Thank you for doing what you do! I think you're 100% correct. Academic knowledge alone is not enough.
after my child was taken from me and I lost my parental rights, I recieved a letter from them that my son was removed from that foster care due to abuse. I was never to see him again
so sad!!
An example of a medical provider who can only diagnose if there is a definitive test for the condition.
To become a good doctor you have to actually love people. Many people want to become doctors for the wrong reasons like status, money and what not.So this whole medical system lack humanity. Doctors, social workers forgot that they are there to HELP suffering people, and not to inflict more pain.
There was a discrepancy because Maya hated their asses. She rightfully did not want to cooperate.
I like how the hospitalist testified how extremely “rare” CRPS is but then goes on to state that she has treated many patients with CRPS ?
The hospital billed the insurance company for CRPS by ICD coding but claim she didn’t have it ??
She has treated MANY patients with CRPS but yet it’s VERY RARE. 🤦♀️
From day 1 they were on a "witch hunt" on the mom, and they chose to ignore all the facts & humanity and their sworn statements to "do no harm" in search of a non-existing situation to fit their evil narratives.
They were following the evidence and attempting to diagnose and treat the patient. The pre-existing diagnosis (made outside of this hospital) was CRPS, but they were not seeing it, so they were trying to rule it in or out, plus investigate other possible causes. They were seeing many possible mental health dynamics at play with the mother and daughter. A difficult case. The mother killing herself indicates that she was very fragile. Wouldn’t most of us stay alive for our family, rather than kill ourselves during a three month investigation? “They are taking my child away from me, I don’t know if it is permanent, so I will take myself away from both my children forever.” Disordered thinking.
@@merrywalsh2809First thing, they denied the condition they charged insurance for treatment of throughout the entire stay. But besides diagnostic points, Maya’s mother said if she was out of the picture the hospital would release Maya. Which they did, 6 days after her death. Before, they were trying to send her to psych programs and medical group homes instead of home. The family believed if people knew about this, they’d be outraged, which they were. Unfortunately that sort of attention often requires a major event. Her mother’s death gained massive attention for this case. Would it be my choice? No. Yours? Clearly not. But she was right. Moreover, this hospital acted with arrogance repeatedly (them using Maya painting in bed as an example she must not have pain? That’s a clear lack of understanding of how chronic pain patients manage their conditions).
I can go on. The actions of sally smith, the controlling social worker who had a prior dropped charge for child abuse and was disciplined at JH’s for behavioral issues. She frequently clashed with Beata. The hospital denied Maya rosary beads and holy water for crying out loud. This was not proper behavior. I believe they were offended from the outset by her mothers forceful and blunt advocacy. This set off a power struggle which caused this entire family major trauma.
As a grown-up who exercises every now and then I’ll throw my knee or my back out but I still have to go to work and perform without anyone knowing I’m in pain but as soon as I come home trust and believe I’m laying up I’m in pain
Yes! Exactly! What bunch of idiot drs.
She answers the questions looking and talking directly at the jury?? She obviously didn't watch Amber Heard's trial, and how that tactic backfired on her 😂
I was thinking of the same thing.
Yes its so condescending
The fact that she knows how to lie like this means she needs jail time and can’t ever have a license or work in the field ever again
Wrong... In her description of signs and symptoms... Also Can test for it with thermal imaging.. I have it in my left knee.. Since a knock against the outer side of the leg. in 2014. Also spread to left foot since 2018. Now the nervous system spans the entire body head to toe... Doesn't miss anything out. Just because it affects 1 area doesn't mean it's not affecting everywhere else... Also been found crps can be initiated by intravenous injection etc... Inflammatory response is clear sign of crps. As a sufferer of crps when talking the pain messages struggle to get through to the brain... It's been used in Scottish case law. Episodes of distraction appear to be the patient has no pain. Also it IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A MUSCULOSKELETAL SKELETAL CONDITION. I can move my leg at my hip, my ankle my toes, high up in the air. But try to weight bear or touch or position my knee in a way that compromises circulation it's agony. They clearly need more crps training at this hospital 😤😠😞 also I need leg extenders if in a wheelchair, but vast majority of the time it's not on offer SO I hold my leg RIDGID to compensate for the lack of aids. It is a strain on already weakened muscles... But it's less painful than my leg in the wrong position for an unqualified amount of time
A doctor saying "it's an Old Timer's like drug"?Really? It's Alzheimers, not Old Timer's. The doctor's complexion sure colored up towards the end of her testimony.
In other words you are a Dr who works in a hospital - hospitalist is such a dumb word - no other country uses such bizarre terminology. Just like claiming you are a Dr of Child Abuse - the US is just insane. Reality is all Drs train in hospitals to get their qualifications & experience before they go into specialities. This case is crazy just like the US medical system is insane - the worst care system in the world.
Hospitalists are just called Hospital Medicine Doctors in the UK. Genius take here guys.
@Nick2bad4u Oh how little you truly know. The very fact that you have a Dr claiming to be a child abuse Dr shows you the levels of insanity in the US. This child & her family were in fact tortured by this hospital & people like all these clowns with their ridiculous claims to fame names. The US health system is utterly crazy & discriminatory.
A hospitalist does undergo specialty training to deal with the unique aspects that can come when patients are hospitalized with all kinds of different conditions. A hospitalist isn’t just treating the same disorder as a regular doctor would do. They are taking a much wider view w/ the patient being hospitalized.
It may seem ridiculous to you being in another country, but if you had more specific information, you might not feel that way as there are a lot of advantages to having a hospitalist on the case.
There is no such thing as a “hospitalist” that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard ! 😂 that’s like me calling myself a “veterinarianist “
But yet y’all let her lay in her feces . This is such bullshit
So did anyone expect this dr to say anything other than the complete and utter denial of a condition maya was already diagnosed with, which conveniently at the same time helps the hospitals legal take of which she is employeed???
So, the prosecutor asks her and she responds looking at the jury. Whoever prepared her did a great job making her look natural, confident and honest. What a pile of crap.
The fact that you said prosecutor, violently strip🎉s you of all credibility..bbbkkkm
@@surpriseimblack Ooooh, my my, you caught me! I said prosecutor! I guess that strips me of any trace of credibility and grants full credibility to the witness. But wait... did I say who instructed the witness? You weren't the smartest in your class, were you?
@@franciscopino5284 lol I would say quit while your ahead but... maybe just quit while your behind?
Amber Heard Academy of Mugging for the Jury, graduate and Valley-dictorian.
She reminds me of amber heard who looked at the jury a lot too and a jury member in an interview said it made them uncomfortable and it made her look dishonest
I live with CRPS. Sorry doc! She does have CRPS. I HAVE IT FROM MY WAIST DOWN.
As someone who luckily has it only in their lower right extremity - I am so sorry. I hope you are with great doctors.
Would your pain come and go from moment to moment?
Do you have it all over? Does anyone have it all over?
I am indecisive over this case. If they thought the mother was to blame why did they not handle her more sensitive rather than provoke her. Care and consideration should be given to patients and their families. They are the trained care givers. Too many hospital workers antagonised the mother and made the situation ten times worse. There are many children being abused and even murdered outside hospitals . Why would they take her to hospital if there was something to hide.
This doesn’t mean that she has it. You’re not a certified doctor. Everyone’s situations are unique to themselves.
I worked for a very busy and young surgeon in Scottsdale that used to use pain pumps routinely at great additional expense and consequences for his patients. And this was my first experience with surgeons I worked for using them. Even when post operative patients had been healing fast and well, often when they were removed is when they created many problems and complications. Such as hematoma's, seroma's and/or infection's resulting in extreme setbacks and even additional surgery to treat the issue. Infections were outrageously common and I told him that this was not normal and should be reevaluated. After a while, he got tired of being called back into emergency surgeries and dealing with so many post op complications and stopped using them. Voila, these issues massively decreased and patients generally sailed through the HEALING process!
I dont like her one bit
I have a son with multiple disabilities included CP, Seizure Disorder and intellectual disability. We had more stays at different hospitals than I like to remember. But ONE thing for SURE, I watched everything they did and what they gave him as far as medications. I asked a lot of questions and got upset many times. I will never forget the time "the team" were trying over and over and over to get a tube down my son's throat while he laid there putting up with it. He finally threw up at one point and I ran to him to turn his head so as not to let him swallow it. They told me to move away. It's devastating to say the least watching your child suffer. Maya's mother was a nurse and had a lot of experience. I can't imagine how desperate and lonely she felt. I think they didn't like her from the beginning and targeted her. Oh I also remember when my son had a spinal fusion and the nurses were changing the bandage on his back. I said please wash your hands well and I got a look from one of them because she didn't like to be told how to do her job. I hope we don't have any more hospital stays, it's heart wrenching when you can't help your child or give suggestions to the nurses or doctors.
It happened to me too, my 20 yr old daughter got into a car accident, broke her hip in 3 places, left arm, her femur came ut of her skin... they took her to sinai grace in Detroit, great doctors but the nurses were horrible, no matter the floor we were at. These nurses should work at a morgue and not taking care of alive patients, they used to give her dble the dose or not give her scheduled pain medications. Left her for 7 hrs in her piss and #2 too.
please don’t tell a nurse to wash their hands good. that’s honestly belittling and rude.
@@alisha.007 I can do what I want, you worry about your kids not mine. If I want to tell a nurse to wash their hands I'm going to do it. You are belittling and rude!!
@alisha.007 it's our right to make sure that their hands are clean, especially if you have problems with a specific one and have to use her or his hands to touch the patient. We don't know what they've been doing when they were not in the patient' room. Depends on the hospital.
@@STLforEVER Exactly, especially because the son of a friend of mine had the same surgery and it got infected (Spinal Fusion, the incision is from the neck to the butt) His infection was so bad they had to stay in the hospital for weeks and he had some kind of vacuum to remove the pus. So, I don't care what a nurse thinks if I remind her or ask her if she washed her hands.
I wouldn't let this dr treat my DOG
That’s a miserable room that they had moved her into😢 .. what a sickening doctors and staff!
Its obvious this providers intent was to prove her theory. She obviously did not believe the patient's report. Once she made her mind up, she was going to any lengths to prove her theory. Narrow minded narcissist. The medical world is full of them.
Right away you know this lady is full of it. She has treated "many" patients with CRPS? Really? How is that possible with the "totality" of her career has been done at a children's hospital and CRPS is predominantly found in adults? Furthermore, considering the entire career being served at this particular hospital just goes to show the loyalty and the lengths this woman would go to in order to protect said career as well as the preferred employer. Complete nonsense in my opinion.
In 30 years I’ve never had a single physician request video surveillance to catch a patient moving in bed and prove they were lying. Disgraceful and most likely a complete lie just to cover her buddy Sally Smith.
Dees thought she was slick with that.
Kids don’t fake!!! A minute they feel better they balance to their normal
Your statement is not entirely true. I’m not speaking on this case, but in general there are kids that seek attention or their parents coerce them to say do certain things
I faked most things as a child. Kids are REALLY CLEVER
When your primary caregiver convinces you there is something wrong with you you do. When you feel guilty even thinking about doing something mommy wouldn't want you to you do. When you have been taught how to act from a young age you do. Speaking from experience I know how insidious the coaching and manipulation from a munchausens abuser can be. Even as an adult who now knows the truth I find it hard to tell what is reality and what was lies.
These Doctor's gaslighted this family,😢 I think Maya and her mother were suffering from medical PTS,,
Doubtful
I honestly did not see this doctor’s testimony unreliable, she was convincing that she had her best interest in heart
Whatever you accomplish in life, if you don't care about other people, you don't have sympathy. It's useless
It is disturbing that a Dr. would put a patient in a video surveillance room without seeking the proper consent. General consent to video in a hospital might apply to common areas, but should not be deemed consent to 24/7 monitoring in a hospital room.
What were they thinking?
I work in a hospital, we regularly put patients in a room where they can be observed so that we can properly care for them, they are high patients who need extra attention for their safety
@@PoirotFanGirl "without seeking the proper consent."
It's pretty disturbing that you would regularly do this without consent. If that's the case, shame on you.
@@lr8607 you obviously have no idea how medicine and high care works, when patients are admitted on our floor they agree to be cared for with the highest degree of care possible, we prefer to keep our patients alive rather than something going wrong and it not being observed and taken care of. So take your "shame" and turn it on yourself for pronouncing yourself on a subject you know nothing about
@@PoirotFanGirl My husband's an ER doctor and he's horrified that they would put cameras in a child's room without discussing it with the parents.
The obvious import of my comment was the lack of consent. Your choice to ignore that as an aspect of patient care suggests that the sub-professional conditions perpetrated on this child are probably being repeated elsewhere.
Again, shame on you. Take an ethics course.
@@lr8607 I'll pass on your recommendations, again you throwing shame my way does not affect me whatsoever, your arrogant judgment means absolutely nothing. Keep your arrogance to yourself.
How is the psych evaluation of Beata not coming into evidence on behalf of the plantiffs?
because its not her trial. If this was a trial based on the death of Beata than it would be admitted into evidence. Good question, though.
Because this trial is not about Beata . Clearly .
I hear that.
Valid question because that evaluation (for those who aren’t aware) concluded there was no evidence of Munchausens by Proxy, only adjustment disorder with depressed mood from being separated from her child.
It’s actually pretty damning for Johns Hopkins
Beata Kowalski. RN, BSN, CRNI, PNCM Infusion Nurse. That's quite a lot of education and work for someone who is mentally ill. I believe she was driven to it by a pack of abusive, void of empathy, narcissistic, bullies, and the loss of her daughter.😢
This lady’s demeanor does not feel genuine.
I know very little about this case right now but if she had the condition, why would the doctors deny it? I mean one would think they would be treating her like other patients.
@@somebody701the mother who was a specialist nurse of some description was ''combative"" with doctors nurses and staff
I wish the mom would have brought her back to one of the Chicago children's hospitals because none of this shit would have ever happened. She would've been taken care of. The whole family would've been taken care of. We still have the Ronald McDonald houses here.
@@LaylaOlsenI wish that too any other hospital but that one or maybe she could of come to Australia free health care and Ronald mcdonald houses a plenty
@@triciamaher8752 The use of the word "combative" is a judgmental description that is an inappropriate to use in medical reports. It is subjective rather than objective; it conveys a personal reaction which should not be a part of medical records. Any opinion should have been stated as "mother disagreed with treatment plans." (See my credentials above as a pediatric nurse of 19 yrs at a major university teaching hospital.)
Just horrible evil animals. They were more concerned about monitoring her to make sure if she was faking it or not.
Pray it doesn't happen to your daughter...Maya was just a child than. At that tender age you are already alleging she was " faking " her illness. Wow I feel sorry for your children😢
as a person living with a painful form of arthritis for 40 years i find this doctors conclusions alarming
questions about your pain are difficult to answer and im 60 years old and answers will vary from person to person
what i find to be tolerable may be intolerable to someone else and this is a 10 year old child
this doctor and those working with her had their minds made up so they viewed this childs symptons with a pre bias to come to a predetermined conclusion
how are they not charged with child abuse as this staff are the real abusers they tortured this child and their family
my god people dont ever take your kids there
thats a woman who really really enjoy listening to her own voice.
I notice that the doctor in this video said between 8m 44s and 8m 52s that a diagnosis of CRPS was very rare, but at 9m 52s into her testimony 1 minute later said that she has treated many patients with CRPS. Hmmm. Seems somewhat confusing to me.
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If she was faking her illness why keep her in the hospital?
Conversion Disorder
She is lieing they never treated her for crps . They treated her for anxiety and wanted the money from the insurance. This hospital needs to be close down and every doctor and nurses that worksd with maya needs to be put in jail and never be able to see there kids or be around a kid or even families kids again they need it for child abuse verbally and mentally and physically.
This doctor suffers from my-shit-don't-stink syndrome. The Hospital Administrator had to be incredibly angry that her staff had screwed up care.
IVE HAD CRPS SINCE 2010 AND WAS PUT ON NUMENDA 3 YRS AGO AND IT HELPED WITH MY PAIN ALONG WITH ANOTHER STRONGER PAIN MED
I have never know video monitoring to be for anything other than a patient who is a fall risk. I have never seen it used to tell whether a patient was lying about their diagnosis or not.
I think a lot of this was a problem with them controlling Maya and her family instead of concentrating on her health. 😡😡
Did any of u notice how the doctor abruptly turned her head avoiding eye contact with mayas lawyer..it was very strange
she was looking towards the jury to answer the question. it is something lawyers sometimes instruct their witnesses to do because they think it makes them look more natural on the stand... sometimes it works, sometimes... not so much lol.
I hate when you can clearly tell (much like amber heard) when the witnesses or speakers are coached to continue looking at the jurors every time they speak. It comes off so forced and fake.
If she think Mayabis lying, why not discharge her home??????????
The doctors, nurses, pediatricians, social workers etc. thought they were all going to be big heroes saving a victim that they thought was the next Gypsy Rose.SMH instead they traumatized Maya and her family. Such a shame.
Well, actually, they did get her off of most of her medication that was clearly not necessary. And it seems that since she’s been at that hospital and removed from her mother, that she is relatively healthy and no longer taking ketamine and many other of the dangerous drugs, her mother, and that quack Dr tried to ruin her life with. It may take decades, but eventually these doctors will be vindicated, and Maya will appreciate what they did for her
I can’t believe after all this publicity no one can agree if she has crps or not, that’s insane!
actually, everyone has agreed but a few cash-only doctors who had a huge $$$ incentive.
Without a test to definitively diagnose CRPS, it’s likely not used often. Patients w/ CRPS have usually seen a litany of doctors, been on numerous meds, & had a string of related diagnoses over a lengthy period of time before some finally find a physician w/ training, experience & expertise w/ the disorder & conclude it’s in fact CRPS.
I’m a licensed mental health therapist in private practice, but I worked in acute healthcare for years. There are certain conditions that are often red flagged as there is no definitive test for diagnostic purposes. These conditions include Fibromyalgia, most types of Ehler’s Danlo Syndrome (EDS), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, & others, after years of not, now have diagnostic tests. One of the best examples is Lyme Disease. All of these conditions occur much more often in women, & these patients are more frequently believed to be drug-seeking pain & related meds, have a higher incidence of nursing staff taking longer to respond to call bells when hospitalized, & are more often diagnosed w/ psychiatric conditions.
Way too many patients out there w/ these conditions have been thru hell & back trying to get answers & have their symptoms reduced. Prior to Lyme Disease being more widespread, understood, & testing & treatments being developed & FDA approved, those w/ Lyme were often treated poorly by medical practitioners & basically called crazy. In addition, these patients usually end up in drawn out battles w/ insurers for coverage of therapies that haven’t been FDA approved for that condition because, in most cases, the diagnosis hadn’t been officially recognized yet either.
I’ve seen lots of suffering over the years given I work regularly w/ chronic pain patients.
That said, I’ve also seen many situations where a psychiatric diagnosis is correct & the patient is feigning certain medical/physical symptoms for complex attention seeking purposes or to procure certain medications that they’ve become physically dependent & addicted to. The medical & legal system has struggled intensely w/ finding a balance b/w effectively & compassionately treating patients w/ bona fide chronic pain, as well as those w/ addictive disease. While tighter laws & monitoring have helped significantly in reducing the rampant “doctor shopping” of the past, faking illness or injury to secure the same pain &/or other addictive med scripts from multiple doctors, bona fide chronic pain patients have suffered in multiple ways. The latter often become quickly labeled as addicts, drug seekers, & manipulative, & their symptoms not validated by medical personnel. This is often due to chronic pain patients having a progressive & high physical tolerance, needing extraordinarily higher dosages of pain meds to effectively keep treating their pain. While physical dependence goes hand in hand w/ addiction in those abusing opioids &/or benzodiazepines, there are many chronic pain patients w/ physical dependence only, which is inevitable for anyone prescribed these meds on a daily schedule for 2-3 weeks+.
While more people are being identified & treated for addiction, it remains more rampant now due to fentanyl being everywhere. Meanwhile, chronic pain paints, including those w/ CRPS, have often been suddenly cut off from or had their pain med doses dramatically reduced, causing horrible withdrawal & rebound pain. They have to fight so hard to get compassionate & effective care & suffer a dramatic deterioration in their quality of life & are increasingly isolated.
There needs to be a much better way in our country of treating both these populations more effectively, compassionately, & respectfully. There are no easy answers, but changes are desperately needed. Looking at Maya’s case, you can see what I’ve described show up all thru her case & what transpired w/ her parents. Addiction is a worldwide epidemic & killing so many people, but un or ineffective diagnosis & treatment of chronic pain is devastating on multiple levels as well. We need greater recognition as well as more effective strategies to meet the needs of both of these populations so that we don’t have cases like Maya’s devastating more entire families. Clearly, more widespread education & supervision of medical personnel is key as the stunning ignorance & arrogance in the medical profession is dangerous & appalling. It’s embarrassing to be in the same profession as the hospital social worker in this case, CB, who played God w/ tragic & lasting outcomes.
The end of the day, it doesnt matter what people agree to. All that matters is that maya can heal. In life, people will not always agree with others. I have a horrible medical trauma (yes, worse than this). Its not easy to deal with others calling you a liar. I am also an adult and Maya was a child at that time. She needed support more than I did/do.
Imo Maya has munch by proxy. Her medical complaints dont add up. It appears she turn in on and off.
Yes there was of course obvious malpractice and neglect 100 per cent.
But sorry, Maya has munch by proxy.
Her mother was put through hell, the lady was pushed to her limit and thats the sad part of this 😢
@@italiangirl76 Do you know how physical illnesses work? There is not set amount of pain every day it goes up and down. Not to mention, even though they claimed it wasn’t CRPS, and you said it, “doesn’t add up” then how come when she went to Rhode Island to get another professionals diagnosis, it was confirmed to be CRPS. Also, when they were billing, they were billing for medication listed under treating CRPS.
This treatment was all about her ego. Hope your fired
Maya and surviving family members deserve way more that $220 million.
Maya is a liar and her pants are on fire. She doesn't deserve one cent. I hope the hospital wins.
@@John-kv7jothis hospital along with Sally Smith have done this to many other families. You should hear their stories too. It's shocking what these hospitals and cps get away with.
@@John-kv7joif you look at her, you can tell she's sick. Get real.
@@LaylaOlsen No. When I look at Maya I see a faker. Time for you to wake up and smell the coffee.
@@John-kv7jo
What exactly makes you think she's faking? She shows many symptoms of CRPS that simply cannot be faked.
1. Why is she smirking? 2. Why does she keep looking at the side?
Nurse Hayworths testimony was the defenses greatest witness. It wouldn't surprise me if that's where it began.
Silly statement: if a port is invariably so “dangerous’, why should any patient ever have a port? Answer: risk benefit ratio. Maya: benefits outweigh the risks. So, this point and the extreme emphasis of dangers here is uncalled for. The doctor actually kept the port in by the way.
What i don't understand is this doctor said CRPS is very rare but she then saids she has treated many patients with CRPS. So it most not be as rare as she saids.
wow im like five seconds into her on the stand and already im yelling EWWW! wow what a narcissist! The way she is turning and answering the question towards the jury when the attorney is asking the question and she keeps talking about how shes so great and responsible for so many things, yet taking responsibility for being absolutely wrong and what happened to Maya and her family- it seems to have eluded her.what a disgrace! i hope familys realllllllllllly think long and hard before ever going to this hospital. This could be their family next.....
There is no diagnostic value to moving Maya to a room with surveillance equipment. I could argue this point ad absurdium.
16:46--- that's a hilarious way of saying that you didn't believe the patient and felt the need to monitor them in order to figure out their symptoms rather that simply believing the patient the first time they say they are experiencing pain. Also, the logic fails here because pain is subjective and something that can't be "observed" or proven through monitoring on cameras
But you cannot just believe everything face value. I’m medicine, you have to investigate. Doesn’t look pretty in the eyes of general public, but that’s the standard of care.
We can’t just give you the strongest pain medicine because you ask. (General statement no related to this case).
@@GOODYTOOSH YIKES. If "standard of care" translates to investigate rather than listening and believing your patient-- the ultimate profressional in the situation as the patient/client is ALWAYS the professional of their life. they get to choose treatment and how to heal and even a therapist can recognize this and standard of care in mental health and evidence based treatment says to believe the client. If doctors are getting into a habit of "investigating" rather than simply believing their patients when they express pain and certain symptoms-- then we have a massive problem. If this is "standard of care" nobody will want this type of "care" as it's not even care it's literally the definition of GASLIGHTING your patient when they express concerns and pain and are not believed and dismissed instead. If the corrupt medical field contnues with this type of harmful ideology surrounding their patirents then surely even more lawsuits and mistakes resulting in death due to human arrogance and doctors letting their role and ego get in the way. LISTEN TO YOUR PATIENTS. ALWAYS. There is no "first let me investigate to see if my patient is even tellling the truth"
and there's a difference between investigating symptoms and telling the patient their symptoms are made up or non-existent and literally gaslighting your patient which is a manipulative behavior.
Could you imagine being married to that and having to go home every night and hear that voice?!?!?! Ugggg
YOUR HUSBAND should be proud‼️ SMDH
Is she trying to replicate the Amber Heard thing or what? ( Answering the question by looking at the jury, instead of looking at the person talking to her.)
Liars, all of these people from John Hopkins. Please don't take your children to this hospital
I had to stop warching the video. She talks soooo much! She loves to hear herself. Sounds to her so profesional and useful etc! Sounds to me Bla bla bla she didnt have the heart for this girl and her mother! I hope her and all of the people involved, morons narcissistic heartless that were complicit pay somehow for what they did !!
Dr. Joe, You are wonderful and so incredibly inspiring! I watched the Maya trial for 9 weeks. I was addicted! I too am a Infusion/PICC/ Vascular Access nurse of 30 some years just like Beata. And yes, I can be bossy too if I know something is right or not right. My career ended at 60 y/o d/t a spont collapse of my cervical spine (DDD) compromising my spinal 😢cord and semi paralyzingly my right dominant hand. I could no longer advance a catheter into a patients vessel. 😢 I was so devastated as I loved my job!
In my opinion , the health care of today is less than adequate here in Florida. People fall thru the cracks all the time. No one follows up. Takes forever to get an appointment when you have an issue. I believe if appointment’s and scheduling could have gone faster I may still have the use of my hand. No one seems to care if you need a sooner than later appointment!
Wonder what could be done if anything? Your thoughts are appreciated 😊