I went to high school with Joe Dibiase Joseph A Foran H.S. during high school Joe always had his bass guitar with him glad he made it to the big time in the music industry he was such a down to earth guy ✌️ 🎸 keep rockin Joe.
I still had goosebumps more than 2 hours after they finished their gig... I just couldn't watch Manowar after this . And I get the goosebumps again watching this video , thanx for the upload
Same for me, left when Manowar started. efore Fates Warning I think it was Sabbat, also a classic. Anyway, for me this is Fates in their best moment, thanks for uploading this memory.
Remember seeing them play in this hole in the wall place in San Diego . I think it was 87 or 88. I was blown away by Rays voice . So powerful and the bands energy At the time I couldn't think of any other singer that came close to this kids voice .
@@pervotheclown2199 I also like some stuff off perfect symmetry like "Part of the machine" Parallel also has a couple songs I like such as Point of view, Eleventh hour and Eye to eye.
Dying, I don't typically or like a prog metal, and I have always heard of this band, but this is the first time of actually listening to them! This dude can sing for real! I would venture to say that Geoff Tate couldn't hang with this cat! Which, you know, Queensryche haven't been metal since "Operation..."
Ray Alder had lost some of his upper mid range or mid range here you can see that he's avoiding these notes and instead shouting the lyric. His head voice was damn powerful You can hear on Silent Cries in the verse his voice is cracking on some of these mid range notes. This is clear even on some no exit songs and especially John Arch songs. Maybe it just wasn't one of his best nights but even the live recording I found in 1988 he's struggling more than he does here. I'd love to hear his first performances with Fates Warning. I heard some demos and he was phenomenal on them
@@fun-dillo1238 Totally agree, I was just studying Ray Alder and his progress as a vocalist. He indeed damaged his voice sometime on these extensive tours and eventually lost his upper register. I'm just listening to all the shows I can find
Yea he lost his highs and mids... but he said his voice changed and can't do it anymore. Times have changed and doesn't require that. Idk. Always been a fates fan
I get so sick and tired of people criticizing Ray's voice. It happens to a lot of singers with age. People criticizing Geddy Lee's voice. Geoff Tate had to drop "Queen Of The Reich" . When you're touring, that means traveling and you will get sick. I think his timbre at 56 at the end of Aug. '23 sounds great. "Silent Cries" sounds great singing it at the range he does on "Live Over Europe". Like Neil Peart said, "Drumming is the hardest job because it's a physical instrument. But, singing is the worst"
I saw them at Harpo's in Detroit on the Parallels tour and the sound was awful and too loud. That place never sounded right and Ray's voice was off, fights broke out in crowd due to drunken rowdiness and the show ended. Seems like this venue was a bit over the top with its sound system also. Those were the days. The loudest show i ever saw was AC/DC. I still can't hear shit. Anyhow
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I went to high school with Joe Dibiase Joseph A Foran H.S. during high school Joe always had his bass guitar with him glad he made it to the big time in the music industry he was such a down to earth guy ✌️ 🎸 keep rockin Joe.
Phenomenal voice . These guys are real musicians . Never got their due recognition because of weak marketing.
Well, weak marketing and changing from thunder to a light spring drizzle will do that to you.
Ray is crushing this like I've never heard before. Fata Morgana is insanely good!
He butchered it m8..No melody in his voice just high pitch..John is different..He is unrivalled..!!!
What a voice, especially on "Nothing Left to Say". Pure class.
I still had goosebumps more than 2 hours after they finished their gig... I just couldn't watch Manowar after this .
And I get the goosebumps again watching this video , thanx for the upload
Same for me, left when Manowar started. efore Fates Warning I think it was Sabbat, also a classic. Anyway, for me this is Fates in their best moment, thanks for uploading this memory.
Ray Alder in his prime!
So great to see this. Saw them this year in USA! :) Front and center
awesome. band. blow. many. bands. off. stage. they. fuking. bring. it. the. fucking. voice.
Damn Fata Morgana then Part of the machine. Hard tunes to sing. And Ray is doing a fucking amazing job.
I wonder how many "bass and drums-sections" in metal bands just started practicing a lot more during this period??
305! I know this from a trusted source...
Damn flash back to the past, I was in the crowd!
Fates Warning 🤘
WHEN METAL WAS METAL !!!
Remember seeing them play in this hole in the wall place in San Diego . I think it was 87 or 88. I was blown away by Rays voice . So powerful and the bands energy At the time I
couldn't think of any other singer that came close to this kids voice .
… and then it was aluminum
So much better than the recent stuff.
Jeff Dallain Fates Warning kept getting better and better. Their later albums are definitely better than their first 3 .
I agree big fan of their early stuff
@@pervotheclown2199 I think their best albums were Guardian and No Exit
@@pervotheclown2199 I also like some stuff off perfect symmetry like "Part of the machine"
Parallel also has a couple songs I like such as Point of view, Eleventh hour and Eye to eye.
@@pervotheclown2199 - ummmm, no.
Thank you for this, I was there!
Dying, I don't typically or like a prog metal, and I have always heard of this band, but this is the first time of actually listening to them! This dude can sing for real! I would venture to say that Geoff Tate couldn't hang with this cat! Which, you know, Queensryche haven't been metal since "Operation..."
*Dang, I meant!
you are too lucky! Back then I was -7 years old!
21:04 Through different eyes❤
Ray Alder had lost some of his upper
mid range or mid range here you can see that he's avoiding these notes and instead shouting the lyric. His head voice was damn powerful
You can hear on Silent Cries in the verse his voice is cracking on some of these mid range notes.
This is clear even on some no exit songs and especially John Arch songs.
Maybe it just wasn't one of his best nights but even the live recording I found in 1988 he's struggling more than he does here.
I'd love to hear his first performances with Fates Warning. I heard some demos and he was phenomenal on them
Who cares if his voice cracked during a performance. Its live. Jim has always been on point. Music has always been on point.
@@fun-dillo1238 Totally agree, I was just studying Ray Alder and his progress as a vocalist. He indeed damaged his voice sometime on these extensive tours and eventually lost his upper register. I'm just listening to all the shows I can find
Yea he lost his highs and mids... but he said his voice changed and can't do it anymore. Times have changed and doesn't require that. Idk. Always been a fates fan
@@fun-dillo1238 He's a chain smoker since forever. That didn't help...
I get so sick and tired of people criticizing Ray's voice. It happens to a lot of singers with age. People criticizing Geddy Lee's voice. Geoff Tate had to drop "Queen Of The Reich" .
When you're touring, that means traveling and you will get sick.
I think his timbre at 56 at the end of Aug. '23 sounds great.
"Silent Cries" sounds great singing it at the range he does on "Live Over Europe".
Like Neil Peart said, "Drumming is the hardest job because it's a physical instrument. But, singing is the worst"
Fates Warning only the first 4 albums.
First 5, still good shit on Perfect Symmetry, also Parallel
4...5 YES
Inside out sucked...
Everything else I dig really...
silent cries 11:25
Time stamps please 😊❤
Opening for Manowar
Extraordinary. Why is there that canvas around the image ?
Probably to provide a frame to fill the screen as the original image was pretty low resolution
Joe had the ultimate poodle-do at this point.
Wow..way to catch Frank playin that solo...!!
Oh wait..😒
I saw them at Harpo's in Detroit on the Parallels tour and the sound was awful and too loud. That place never sounded right and Ray's voice was off, fights broke out in crowd due to drunken rowdiness and the show ended. Seems like this venue was a bit over the top with its sound system also. Those were the days. The loudest show i ever saw was AC/DC. I still can't hear shit. Anyhow
Support for Manowar !!