Storyteller: Buffy 7x16 Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- Storyteller: Buffy 7x16 Reaction
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I suppose I’m not sure why I think this but I do feel like this is perhaps an underrated episode. One of the best in season 7 in my humble opinion.
I love the episode; finally Andrew gets some depth and real self-reflection.
Is it “underrated”? It’s the 3rd highest-ranked episode so far this season on IMDB. I think it’s a much-loved episode?
@@phueal I did say I’m not sure why I thought it and I don’t check stuff like IMDb so yea.
Agree! By far one of my favourites
I always thought that Andrew pushing the remote was to show us he stops seeing life as a made-up story.
Like he's turning the tv off.
Interesting point. There's also the point that Andrew wished he died. Remember when in "Superstar" (4x17), Jonathan learned how to deal with magic from a fellow member in a suicide prevention group. Andrew is THAT fellow member.
This is one of my top 5 favorite episodes.
I think this episode is what gives Andrew some redemption -- not a ton, but the fact that he finally faced what he did and admitted it was a big step for him. He's been avoiding it for so long. I do like this episode -- the humor of Andrew's filming, and the ending with him finally getting real, make a strong impact.
I'm with you about Kennedy. I think it's a romance that's completely unnecessary. Plus, as nice as she is as a character, she's never going to have the time to make the kind of impact that Oz or Tara had. Sometimes I wish shows would realize not everything has to be turned into romance. And in Willow's case, it actually makes a lot more sense for her to NOT be in a relationship for this final season. She's been through so much, and loved Tara so completely... to me, having Willow getting with Kennedy feels a bit dismissive of Willow's past relationships and how powerful they were to her. Sometimes it's okay to let a character be on her own.
Good episode and interesting for Andrew's character. Tom Lenk was very excellent
Such a fun detail that Andrew did not memorize Xanders lines in the dialogue with Anya he kept watching, he memorized Anyas lines. I love how this episode takes this character everybody hated and makes it SO good. Its crazy fun and the end is super emotional. Also the detail of how bringers are made. This show does this so often, the lore is usually super subtle
Andrew is the only character that truly appreciates Xander's skill to fix windows.
lmao Andrew is crushing on all the men in the house.
Watch the end credits to the very end where the monster goes grr arrg.
There was silver in older mirrors and cameras.
That's why the myth says that they can't appear in them.
BtVS doesn't exactly stay consistent with it, but the bottom line is they do appear on camera, like that one time in season 2 when Spike sent a vampire to film Buffy's fighting style.
but they were consistent about it with video. Spike filmed vampires fighting Buffy in Season 2 Halloween episode to learn her methods
In regards to the comment at the end of the video there, just to be clear, the "Shadow Men" aren't like the Watcher's Council, they are the Watcher's Council. Those men were the ones who became the first watchers after creating the first slayer.
Andrew was doing Masterpiece Theater which was (is?) a BBC series which used to air on PBS in the US from the 70s to the 90s originally
"Stop telling stories. Life isn't a story."
I feel like that line belonged in Supernatural.
I love this episode so much. One of my favorites of Season 7 for sure
Andrew is no "Superstar."
3:19 😂 Your Welcome Dakara...Stop Drooling lmao
This episode is why I think the Movie is canon. It's Buffy's origin as told by Andrew, or someone like him - who kinda understands the lore, but not really (and who's willing to make up details).
I love how this episode starts like an episode of Masterpiece Theater with Andrew being all showy and fanciful and ends with him with all fantasy stripped away, telling the truth, dressed in a track suit sitting on the toilet. It was very much needed for Andrew to move forward and work towards becoming a better person.
Willow and Kennedy's kiss did look forced. I just don't think the actresses had chemistry. But also the relationship was too rushed. Tara and Willow's relationship evolved organically. Kennedy and Willow's was like, plant two lesbians in the same room, water thoroughly, and put in a sunny window. Wait two weeks for instant relationship to sprout. No further effort required. It means nothing. The kissing is as forced as the romance.
For the most part this episode is a good romp.
A real great episode ❤🎉.i like it alot
With the whole “can’t see vampires in a mirrors “ thing; I don’t recall where I read it, but someone brought up the idea that you couldn’t see one if you were looking through the viewfinder of an SLR-type camera, since those work by bouncing the light coming in through the lens off a mirror to send it to the viewfinder. But since there’s no mirror in the path from the lens to the film (or digital sensor), they’d show up on the film even though you didn’t see them in the viewfinder. Possibly more interestingly (if your brain works like mine, anyway) is that if you extend the mirror rule to say “ok, but we use silver in film like we do to create mirrors, and it’s the silver causes the lack of reflection, therefore vampires don’t show up on film either”, you could say “digital sensors have no silver, therefore all these vampires which have been missing in photos for centuries all of a sudden started showing up when digital photography took off”. And yes, there are mirrors made without silver, and if it’s the silver doing the voodoo, it all breaks down. I’m just pitching ideas here. :)
Angel didn't have a reflection in the window Giles was looking out, back in the invisible girl episode, and normal window glass doesn't have silver.
When Spike showed up, he had a vamp take video of Buffy fighting another vamp, and that vamp shows up in the video.
I don't think a scientific explanation works. A mystical explanation: their image can be captured by media that doesn't reflect the image, but anything that relies on a reflection doesn't work. No reflection is exactly that, no reflection, due to mystical, rather than scientific, reasons.
@@ernesthakey3396Exactly
@ernesthakey3396 Oh, I don’t dispute that at all. My only thought (poorly explained, I suspect) was that, in the broader vampire lore (outside of Buffy) that could be a fun idea to play with.
@@noahrobin1941 cool. Yeah, I don't think they had a fully developed "this is how vampires work" handbook for the writers, so there are occasional inconsistencies, that we can try to explain away with fan theories. And some folks get real serious about their theories being right! 🤷♂️
My favorite writing weirdness was when Angel told Xander he'd have to do CPR on Buffy as "I have no breath" - as David B. himself is obviously panting. We also see vampire breath being steamy in cold air, etc. My theory for that is air breathed in by a vampire has all the oxygen absorbed directly into the vampire tissues as something the magic that animates them needs, so their breath is useless in CPR. And maybe if immersed in water their flesh would absorb oxygen from that, so they cannot drown either.
Vampires are allegedly dead, yet they breath in and out, the latter being necessary for speech obviously. Their hearts don't beat - but they consume blood, and they seem to bleed at least a little when injured - the blood must magically move itself through them as needed. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
They are trying to stick to some classic vampire lore, but they can only do much given their actors are actually human. I try to ignore most of the contradictions...
Storyteller is my favorite episode of season 7.
great ep for Andrew.
❤❤❤
Tom Lenk was great in this episode.
Your reaction was fun, interesting, and enjoyable to watch. A couple of things.
Back then, Public Television had the reputation for highbrow viewing for the intellectual, enlightened audience. One of the more pretentious shows was Masterpiece Theater. Just the name reeks of alleged intellectual superiority. Most episode were BBC adaptations of “ classic “ novels or British dramas. Each episode was opened and closed with Alistar Cooke sitting in a big chair, in front of a fire, in a stuffy library. It just reeked of self importance and it was common to tell people, I don’t watch television except for Masterpiece Theater. That’s what is being roasted with Andrew and the set up.
But there is typical Buffy storytelling. The attention is on the humor, Andrew and his nerdy behavior, and closing on the Hellmouth but… there is much more. It’s also a commentary on how most everybody wants to create a reality that fits their needs and allows real consequences to be avoided.
There is a quote in a western, “ When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” Survivors stories become historical fact and the lessons soon lose the moral and ethical truths about the decisions and impact. All of the characters are working and living with personal experiences that are tilted to what makes them comfortable and not with the actual. Xander and Anya avoid the reality and when it starts to hurt they retreat to sex to put the reality back in the place they need. It’s the same for everyone and that is actually one of the reasons The First has power. Evil does not create only takes the lies we want to believe and builds on those falsehoods. No one wants to step up to their own false narrative and admit they are living a lie to avoid accountability of reality. An old sales adage is that you can always sell a liar because no one wants to admit they are a liar. That’s why Buffy takes Andrew to the Hellmouth. Unless he has to face reality and accept what he had done, nothing changes. That’s why he is so different at the end. The entire movie he was making was not for Buffy or the world but to create a false narrative for himself.
This episode is one of the final steps for Buffy. Go back to the story line in Season 2 that started in Lie To Me and concluded with I Only Have Eyes For You. Buffy had her first lessons in choices, personal responsibility, accountability, and the power of giving foregiveness with love and without conditions. That’s why Buffy is “ mad” at Andrew throughout the episode. She understands that it’s not the act of filming but the perpetuation of the embraced lie of Andrew. It’s not just the tears that closes the opening. It’s the power of acceptance of his vile actions and the sincere remorse that causes Andrew to cry. Recall the way the young boy that murdered the teacher acted in I Only Have Eyes For You. Realized results of an evil act is overwhelming if you have any decency. The shame , the guilt, and the need for living forgiveness is something none of us want to face. Buffy , through supernatural events, experienced the emotions that would only happen normally by an individual that perpetuates the evil action. What Buffy does with Andrew are the actions of a wise and mature woman. If on a rewatch, notice how different Buffy is in comparison to the others. Buffy can not be swayed to be filmed because she knows why the documentary is being made and it’s a cover to mask the real story and hide the truth. Exactly what the First does and will continue.
I like the sweater. Very festive.
Except it isn't Christmas
@@WilliamLucas-hy8mx episode was released on Patreon last December.
@@WilliamLucas-hy8mxNo offense but I'm one of those who thinks it's always Christmas.
I thought Storyteller was a very similar episode to Superstar back in S4 where Jonathan was featured. This time it is Andrew being ultra irritating, setting himself up doing a type of documentary on the group. While quite funny, the vlogging is so annoying for the rest of the group. Funny at the start when Anya confronts Andrew in the bathroom. Andrew sticking his camcorder everywhere is really annoying Buffy now. It is strange that the writers continued with the character of Andrew as opposed to Jonathan who probably would have been a better fit to be a final part of the group. A funny scene too when Andrew enters the living room with Willow and Kennedy kissing, but features on the window Xander replaced. Another interesting scene when Andrew is interviewing Xander and Anya, and starts asking personal questions. When Wood touches the seal he changes, we can see the evil has influenced him calling Buffy a 'filthy whore'. The power of The Hellmouth growing again now with some of the students being totally overcome by its power, some good fight scenes with these. Best scene of the episode is when Buffy confronts Andrew at the end over the Hellmouth. She forces him to cry over the seal which seems to work. A great exchange at the end when he says 'what if the tears didn't work', Buffy does not answer. All in all an interesting episode, but far better to come in the closing episodes of S7.
I always thought that both xander and anya actually wanted to say more after tath hookup, but they again misscomunicated because nobody wanted to pass as the clingee. I don't know if it's just me reading into it but their acting to me suggests that.
Is that first eyeless kid Jesse plemons/todd from breaking bad?
Hopefully Dakara does not know there is a Season 8 of Buffy, it's in Comic Book Form, and it got kinda stupid, for one thing Dawn & Zander become a couple(I'm not kidding). It's up to Dakara if she wants to read Buffy season 8. Otherwise enjoy the rest of Season 7.
Way to spoil it dipshit!
Yeah that sounds like a bad fanfic
This is like a reaction to a Buffy reaction... Weird.
not sure if it is same knife buffy used on the mummy hand when she was stuck in a time bubble, but that knife was sold in Turkey as a simple tourist gift shop item lol, brother bought me it just to give me something, he had never seen buffy and it was the exact dagger used in buffy
Least Expected Guest Star at 8:54
Kennedy is not even Oz
The little pig Andrew failed to sacrifice is still alive? Well, that's something... oh, you're outta sync with Angel, it seems.
Who thought when Andrew was introduced into the series, we would get such a great episode revoling around him? Not me.
As a rhetorical question, when did Xander "apologize[ed] enough" to Anya? He never has. After leaving Anya at the alter, she mourns and he runs to his friends, listening to them says _poor Xander._ In solace Anya and Spike have sex, with no malice intended towards Buffy or Xander, but Xander decides it was about hurting him and decides to start rudely sniping at her with lines like the one in this episode where he says, "I guess I'm more replaceable obviously." In this episode Andrew calls Xander out in curiosity about what he thinks a year later. This episode because Andrew asks the question, is the first time Xander talks to Anya and apologizes. All Xander's done to this episode's point is leave Anya at the alter, ignore the pain he caused her, and then be upset and yell at her for hurting him with Spike solace sex unintended to hurt him. His and Anya's first real talk is because of Andrew and his camera.
I have a theory that was still a loose theory last time I typed it out, but I think its accurate to how I view Xander. He may not yell at his friends in later seasons, but the attitude is still there. Concerning this episode, not only is he trying to back out of an apology to Anya he never gave by saying, "[he's] apologized enough," but after they talk it comes back to him being rude about Spike and her when he says, "I guess I'm more replaceable obviously." If he's still saying things like that after she's says, "it was about solace," then he not only still has issues about it, but his attitude is at the forefront, and like always, said attitude isn't allowing him to deal with his issues, as has always been his case. It's one of my core issues with Xander. The rest of Andrew's tape never shows Xander dealing with that issue because it runs deeper than just Anya and Spike. It goes to his trust issues. And considering he left Anya at the alter, not trusting her doesn't make sense. It just shows he has that issue and explains things like "Willow said kick his ass," (and all his earlier season's actions) which would go into whole other theories from there.
I love how so much of the episode is from Andrew's camera's POV.