Manny did amazing in this - he took Andy on and gave him a real run for his money! I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again, seeing Andy run is so inspiring and I’m in awe. It’s like watching a dancer on stage - even when he says he’s struggling, everything looks so incredibly smooth and easy. I really enjoyed this video, nice take on the review videos TRC usually does with all the specs and talking to the camera. Loving all of the content you folks are pushing our at the moment, keep it up! ❤️
This was so fun to watch! I love hearing all the stats and getting some analysis, it teaches me so much (I don't have a watch that can analyse all of those things!). I only started with Couch to 5k last October and I just ran my first 10k race at the weekend. Even though I'm slow, I'm so proud that I achieved a PB of 1:13:48. I can't imagine being this fast!
Great video! The novelty challenge videos are fun, but I really really like these videos where there is a challenge element or a fun hook, but also a deeper dive into stats or the science of running.
Goodness gracious!!! That is just utterly insane!!! 10km in 35 minutes!!! I couldn't come close to that in my wildest dreams!!! Very intriguing analysis too by the way. I gotta say, there are such things as superhumans!! The fact that both of you covered 10km very comfortably under forty minutes means that the both of you safely belong in that category!!
Wow amazing 10km pace and really interesting analysis. Thanks. I wish I had the enthusiasm for running but have gone off it this year.. still doing a few half marathons and other races to give myself some targets. I imagine we all experience some running ruts from time to time.
Great race! Yoi both went out so hard! I would love to see a more measured 10k to compare and determine if you're stats change less drastically and your form stays pretty consistent. (I imagine that would be the case, but I'm curious how different it would be ultimately.)
This is one of the best things I've ever seen! I use Garmin HRM Run and was curious how my run dynamics looks like compared to elite runners and now I have the answer :-)
Sorry if I missed it, but to both guys, how close were these results to your most recent 10K races? Manny that took guts, taking on a Common Wealth Games Champion! Your smack game is Gold Medal worthy!😁
Great video. Loved the explanations of the Running Dyanamics data and what certain metrics can tell about your running and muscular/tendon activation. A dedicated video on this could be useful for HRM-Pro users.
Thanks Kent, we haven't had a specific video for that device but we do reference it in this video, ruclips.net/video/FoDDN7T5whY/видео.html if that helps?
The Running Channel thanks, but i was thinking more along the lines of Manny's breakdown of running dynamics and how GCT and stride length changes translate to different things to consider. The link to heart-rate was also useful though.
Loved the 'stats', super interesting...and yowzers, you two are fast! Great work from you both. Not sure, but what about Anna and Sarah do the same challenge? Not sure whether they are similar enough in ability to make it fair?
Congratulations to both of you on your finish times. I really enjoyed your post race commentary as we watched you run as well as insights on GCT and other performance stats.
Thanks, that seems to be a highlight for people. It insightful to hear how elites athletes can measure their performance and critique their own efforts.
Loved this video, hearing the analysis while watching the run is the best way to go, learned some new info watching this, thanks👏 would like to see more like this please👍
Simple idea but a great video. Really interesting to see the data behind it as well. I have a Garmin myself and look at stuff like cadence and stride length but haven't paid too much attention to the other metrics.
It's runners like you two that make getting the top spot on a Strava segment longer than 300m almost impossible. (I still have a sub 11second 100m time) If I get my 5k to under 20mins I would be very happy, if I get my 10k below 40mins I would be...on a bicycle.
The first thing I saw early on was that Manni pulls harder w his right hamstring, causing the left contact time to be so high. The height of heel lift is directly proportional to angle of falling. The same amount of effort (very little) is used to pull up the foot at all speeds, it’s just more gravity flowing through the system forces an increased range of motion. But the speed difference was simply due to sustained fall angle aka lean. Who can hold the line
I found the technical discussion about the metrics very interesting - especially given that Andy is an ex-pro. I'm sure we all have a stronger leg so how do we try to rebalance? Pistol squats? Technical runs in which we consciously try to correct the imbalance whilst looking at the metric on our watch? I loved the trash talking by Manni too! 😂😂😂
Great video just a pity it was only 10 minutes long as I was enjoying it so much and I was disappointed when it came to an end. Nice camera work too, I give it five 👍
😱 Yesterday I ran my fastest 5k and 10k ever! I was so happy. I _WAS_ so happy. Manni is a full 20 minutes faster than me! In my defense, I'm running at 600 meters in altitude, cover 218 meters in elevation gain... and I'm 60. I'm really curious on how I would perform at sea level on a flat track. There is no way I can run in 30° weather. Anything more than 13° my performance crashes.
NO spoiler who won the race itself but we know who won the trash talk warm-up🤴🏿😂. RACE: Great pace 🚀🚀(far outside my ability). CREW: lots of effort put into filming from all sorts of angles and perspectives, cutting, and I enjoyed your post-race dissemination chat very much, too. WATCH: I cannot afford such a watch but the health benefits of the left-right-balance and vertical movement sensors are undoubtedly worth their money. Having legs of slightly different lengths I notice the negative effect on my muscle chain, hips and back on long runs. Want to run more "leveled" and even and that data could aid in finding insoles of perfect height and tailor Strength&Conditioning workouts to the weaker side. On all my runs I pay attention to limit vertical movement and stride length/cadence to reduce stress on my body. One's got only one body and one health, with or without watch. This clip showed very well why those high-end watches could really be considering and worth working some extra-shifts to fork out the money. Stay healthy, y'all!
Excellent video production and editing. Perfect to get a dynamic insight to performance and comparison. Does the chest HRM provide the ground contact data and the vertical oscillation? If so it is a clever piece of kit. Do you find you can change your left/right balance to correct the bias as you run and then see the response on the data? Well done to the whole team.
You can adjust balance based on feedback through the watch but it's difficult to manage throughout the run. It is usually more effect when you're analysing post-race, to see which side you're favouring.
Brilliant video! I found the stats stuff very interesting and informative. Is there any way you could do a best running form challenge, with time irrelevant?
Thanks Jon, glad you liked it. And for the suggestion too, it's definitely something that we could look at. How we make it into a challenge is the next question!
@@runningchannel Well I suppose it is always going to be subjective yet based on data (body posture, cadence, stride length, GCT, steady heart rate, steady pace, etc.), but you've got the experts to make that judgment. 👍
Running Form Videos - Great idea. Would be so helpful to avoid injuries. Once I heard AND felt someone coming up on me from behind as thunderous as an earthquake, on hard asfalt. "He will have no knees and hips 10 years from now" was all I was thinking in disbelief. Why do people destroy their bodies so mindlessly? I'll never understand.
Seeing that 5.0 on Aerobic training effect made me laugh. I had that pop up for me this weekend doing my last long run before a half marathon, and I felt pretty good. That device is pretty neat though. I could probably use it to help my running form.
Great video! I assume it was a cross training day for Sarah??? This video was much better with regards to not being a advert for Garmin. Was useful seeing what it actually does and the stats from it. But great video and WOW what good times! I can only dream of those!!
Running Channel Love the video, awesome massive thumbs up. Love to see a rematch. (That would be awesome) 30 seconds head start for Manni, same distance (10km race) How would Andy try and close it down, close it down from the gun, or would Andy try and gradually close it down. Would think it would be a very close race at end (photo finish) and massive thumbs up for video
Who knew Manni was the king of trash talk! 😆 Great job to you both, and congrats to Andy! Loved the data, it's almost too bad it doesn't talk (yet), like "faster off your left foot" or something. I'm sure it's coming...
This just reinforced what I've already believed... My stride length is a bit too short and vertical oscillation too high. I'm convinced it's due to poor push-off strength so I'm relying on bounce instead to driving forward. Pretty interesting stats, though. Thanks for posting.
Manni uses the Garmin Forerunner 945 and Andy uses the Garmin Enduro. If you're interested in learning more, we did a watch review earlier in the year that you might find useful. ruclips.net/video/a9NL-B7yS-Y/видео.html
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Manni sounds like one of the most polite trash talkers I've ever heard.
A real class act
I love watching Andy race. He’s so humble. No smack talk, claps in his opponent. He just puts in the work and smokes everyone🎉
Spoiler alert
Manny did amazing in this - he took Andy on and gave him a real run for his money! I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again, seeing Andy run is so inspiring and I’m in awe. It’s like watching a dancer on stage - even when he says he’s struggling, everything looks so incredibly smooth and easy. I really enjoyed this video, nice take on the review videos TRC usually does with all the specs and talking to the camera. Loving all of the content you folks are pushing our at the moment, keep it up! ❤️
Great contest guys, and interesting analysis! Manni was in a class of his own in the pre-competition trash talking. :)
Thanks for watching Liam, glad you enjoyed it!
I ran my very first 10k race this past weekend and I was happy with my finishing time of 1:02 😂😭
Well done Denise! Half Marathon next, yeah?
Sub 40 min 10km is something I dream about, great work by both of you.
They are both such great runners!
Sub hour 10k is something I dream about 😅
@@juliac.2742 Keep training Julia I hope it becomes a reality 👍🙌
My god you are both insanely fast runners. Great job! honestly find it hard to believe anyone can run that fast.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
Manni king of banter 🙈 ...Andy always the gentleman ...awesome run,congrats Andy 👍🏼
This was so fun to watch! I love hearing all the stats and getting some analysis, it teaches me so much (I don't have a watch that can analyse all of those things!). I only started with Couch to 5k last October and I just ran my first 10k race at the weekend. Even though I'm slow, I'm so proud that I achieved a PB of 1:13:48. I can't imagine being this fast!
"So here it's just about damage limitation."
I think we've all felt that way before. Good for pushing through. :)
The banter was so funny, loved the competitive spirit
Manni is the banter king!
Loved it!! Btw I can’t wait to see how Sarah did in her marathon 👀 hope it went well😄
Thanks Prasham, glad you liked it. The conclusion to Sarah's marathon journey will be out on Sunday. We can't wait for everyone to see it!
Awesome. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! 👏🏾
Great video! The novelty challenge videos are fun, but I really really like these videos where there is a challenge element or a fun hook, but also a deeper dive into stats or the science of running.
Yes, this seems to have been a really popular part of this video, we're glad you appreciated it.
Goodness gracious!!! That is just utterly insane!!! 10km in 35 minutes!!! I couldn't come close to that in my wildest dreams!!!
Very intriguing analysis too by the way.
I gotta say, there are such things as superhumans!! The fact that both of you covered 10km very comfortably under forty minutes means that the both of you safely belong in that category!!
Thanks for watching Yin, glad you enjoyed it!
I just read that Molly Huddle considers there to be two classes of runner - Warriors and Worriers - immediately made me think of this!
I just love you all on the TRC ! Thank you again for a great video !!!!
Wow amazing 10km pace and really interesting analysis. Thanks. I wish I had the enthusiasm for running but have gone off it this year.. still doing a few half marathons and other races to give myself some targets. I imagine we all experience some running ruts from time to time.
Great race! Yoi both went out so hard!
I would love to see a more measured 10k to compare and determine if you're stats change less drastically and your form stays pretty consistent. (I imagine that would be the case, but I'm curious how different it would be ultimately.)
This is one of the best things I've ever seen! I use Garmin HRM Run and was curious how my run dynamics looks like compared to elite runners and now I have the answer :-)
Good to hear you found it useful. Were you familiar with the features we mentioned?
Sorry if I missed it, but to both guys, how close were these results to your most recent 10K races? Manny that took guts, taking on a Common Wealth Games Champion! Your smack game is Gold Medal worthy!😁
I wonder how fast Andy could have run if he were challenged at the end? 🤔 for a while it was a solo TT
You both did great in my opinion . The video footage was awesome . Thanks for another great video
Love this video. Data, stats etc. Hope to see more of this type :) Congratz Andy!
Thanks Adrian, we'll try and include more of this in future.
Very entertaining. I always enjoy watching Andy's smooth stroke. What a runner. Cheers to Manni you're a better man than I
Glad you enjoyed it Kevin, thanks for watching!
Great video. Loved the explanations of the Running Dyanamics data and what certain metrics can tell about your running and muscular/tendon activation. A dedicated video on this could be useful for HRM-Pro users.
Thanks Kent, we haven't had a specific video for that device but we do reference it in this video, ruclips.net/video/FoDDN7T5whY/видео.html if that helps?
The Running Channel thanks, but i was thinking more along the lines of Manny's breakdown of running dynamics and how GCT and stride length changes translate to different things to consider. The link to heart-rate was also useful though.
That's really cool to see all those stats and very interesting to consider. Also, I'm stunned at those 10 k paces, that's my dead sprint speed.
Wowza!! That was some fast running! Great work you two!
Impressive results for both of you.
Manni's smack-talk was absolutely on point. So entertaining!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was fun to see the garmin technology in action and all the measurements you can get. Good job guys, awesome times!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice one! Don’t know how you can sustain that pace for such a long time in that heat! Well done. Cheers Nik
It was certainly tough going out there that day.
Loved every bit of this video guys! Thank you very much :D Really insightful.
Glad you enjoyed it Gareth, thanks for watching.
This video is super interesting! My new favorite Running Channel video. Well done both of you!
Great to hear you enjoyed it Tiffany!
Loved the 'stats', super interesting...and yowzers, you two are fast! Great work from you both.
Not sure, but what about Anna and Sarah do the same challenge? Not sure whether they are similar enough in ability to make it fair?
That could be interesting, we'll see if either of them fancy it!
Congratulations to both of you on your finish times. I really enjoyed your post race commentary as we watched you run as well as insights on GCT and other performance stats.
Thanks, that seems to be a highlight for people. It insightful to hear how elites athletes can measure their performance and critique their own efforts.
Very interesting! I love how you talked through the stats and stuff! What watch were you both using? Great video!
Most of the stats came through the HRM pro chest tracker but Andy wears the Garmin Jura and Manni wears the Garmin 245 Forerunner.
What's a garmin jura? I see they are a watch dealer in the uk but it seems they sell most of the garmin models.
That was great. Two killer athletes all out!
Much respect to you both for putting it out there without knowing the end result!
Nice one Rico, thank you!
The beginning...No excuses. Good luck to you both and well done.
Thanks Ivy!
Well done both, that was speedy! Stat stuff was really interesting too! 🙌👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Great head to head guys💪 Interesting stats 🤔
That was fantastic! Well done Manni and Andy. Great analysis.
Glad you think so!
You guys should have a race with other youtubers, Ben Parkes, Ben is Running, The Welsh Runner etc!
That would be so much fun to see!
Loved this video, hearing the analysis while watching the run is the best way to go, learned some new info watching this, thanks👏 would like to see more like this please👍
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Absolutely love it! You guys went for it. Keep it coming.
Thanks for watching!
Would love to run on a course like this, so lucky!
Love this channel!
Well done, that was awesome 1min difference but still felt so close. Really enjoyed that 🤙
Thank you! Manni is already asking for a rematch!
Loved the challenge, how close was that! And good times too… press-up challenge next…
I don't think the world is ready for that level of Manni banter!
Oh my goodness....I need to catch up with you guys! Excellent run!
Thanks for watching Keyo!
Great video, really useful data analysis.
As for a new challenge, how about a presenters backyard ultra, last one running wins.
Great job Andy! And your analysis of the Garmin dyamics info was very interesting and useful.
Good to hear you found the analysis interesting John, thanks for watching.
Great job both of you
Great effort and a lots of insights from all that data.
Glad you liked it!
Loved this. And some nice times guys.
Thanks for watching Mark.
Great video - would be great to see Anna vs Rick head to head at some point!
Maybe when Rick is back to full fitness we'll put it to him?
@@runningchannel sounds like a plan 👍
Really enjoyed this video, great work Manni, you did really well.
Glad you liked it
Enjoyed this video. Would love to see Anna vs Sarah doing a 10k race..
Simple idea but a great video. Really interesting to see the data behind it as well. I have a Garmin myself and look at stuff like cadence and stride length but haven't paid too much attention to the other metrics.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video guys 💯👏
Great challenge 👍
I definitely need to get one of these garmin stuff for Christmas !
We have Christmas Guides coming up in a few weeks, you might find that informative too.
This is one of your best videos ✊
Thanks, glad you liked it!
It's runners like you two that make getting the top spot on a Strava segment longer than 300m almost impossible.
(I still have a sub 11second 100m time)
If I get my 5k to under 20mins I would be very happy, if I get my 10k below 40mins I would be...on a bicycle.
Loving the content guys!! 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️
Thanks Greg!
The first thing I saw early on was that Manni pulls harder w his right hamstring, causing the left contact time to be so high. The height of heel lift is directly proportional to angle of falling. The same amount of effort (very little) is used to pull up the foot at all speeds, it’s just more gravity flowing through the system forces an increased range of motion. But the speed difference was simply due to sustained fall angle aka lean. Who can hold the line
Really fab to see how their performance changed throughout! Can you remind us what equipment was used to take the left/right/vertical info please?
That data is taken mostly from the Garmin HRM Pro.
Great content!
I found the technical discussion about the metrics very interesting - especially given that Andy is an ex-pro. I'm sure we all have a stronger leg so how do we try to rebalance? Pistol squats? Technical runs in which we consciously try to correct the imbalance whilst looking at the metric on our watch? I loved the trash talking by Manni too! 😂😂😂
Ha! Manni is the king of the putdowns, but you can't beat Andy when it comes to something competitive!
Coros's POD has similar stats. Part of the reason I went for the Pace 2 EK edition!
Great video just a pity it was only 10 minutes long as I was enjoying it so much and I was disappointed when it came to an end. Nice camera work too, I give it five 👍
Thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed it!
A minute slower on a 10k than an Olympic athlete... I'd call that a win!
They are both crazy fast!
Wow guys, those are some pretty respectable times. Well done! Not the closest race but a good watch nonetheless.
Thanks for watching!
That’s most interesting....some good stats and learning to be had for all I would suggest
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent
Super fast! Awesome guys!
Thanks for watching Srdan!
😱
Yesterday I ran my fastest 5k and 10k ever! I was so happy.
I _WAS_ so happy.
Manni is a full 20 minutes faster than me! In my defense, I'm running at 600 meters in altitude, cover 218 meters in elevation gain... and I'm 60.
I'm really curious on how I would perform at sea level on a flat track. There is no way I can run in 30° weather. Anything more than 13° my performance crashes.
wooohoooo!!! Go Andy!!! 👊🙌
Loving all the stats - I'd never thought about GCTB, but will have a look at the chest tracker as my Garmin data/watch doesn't seem to show it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it Julie
Great interesting dual .
Great video. More of the nerdy numbers and stats videos, please.
More to come, don't worry!
NO spoiler who won the race itself but we know who won the trash talk warm-up🤴🏿😂. RACE: Great pace 🚀🚀(far outside my ability). CREW: lots of effort put into filming from all sorts of angles and perspectives, cutting, and I enjoyed your post-race dissemination chat very much, too.
WATCH: I cannot afford such a watch but the health benefits of the left-right-balance and vertical movement sensors are undoubtedly worth their money. Having legs of slightly different lengths I notice the negative effect on my muscle chain, hips and back on long runs. Want to run more "leveled" and even and that data could aid in finding insoles of perfect height and tailor Strength&Conditioning workouts to the weaker side. On all my runs I pay attention to limit vertical movement and stride length/cadence to reduce stress on my body. One's got only one body and one health, with or without watch. This clip showed very well why those high-end watches could really be considering and worth working some extra-shifts to fork out the money. Stay healthy, y'all!
Manni is the king of trash talk! He's desperate for a rematch!
Like such honest and cheerful videos 🙏
I'd love to see how long Andy can last in the Kipchoge challenge on a track
More like this please .👍🏻
We'll do our best Arthur!
Excellent video production and editing. Perfect to get a dynamic insight to performance and comparison. Does the chest HRM provide the ground contact data and the vertical oscillation? If so it is a clever piece of kit. Do you find you can change your left/right balance to correct the bias as you run and then see the response on the data?
Well done to the whole team.
You can adjust balance based on feedback through the watch but it's difficult to manage throughout the run. It is usually more effect when you're analysing post-race, to see which side you're favouring.
I am exhausted by just looking at you guys 😲
Great work guys..
Cheers, thanks for watching!
10K in that time - gosh that's fast!
Haha, spoilers.
@@TheSilentRoar I realised and edited it xD
@@tzey1 yeah I saw. But RUclips showed the original comment in the comment section preview thing 😅
@@TheSilentRoar 😭
Nice edit Mojo 😂😂😂
It's painful just to look at the race! Good job!
Brilliant video! I found the stats stuff very interesting and informative. Is there any way you could do a best running form challenge, with time irrelevant?
Thanks Jon, glad you liked it. And for the suggestion too, it's definitely something that we could look at. How we make it into a challenge is the next question!
@@runningchannel Well I suppose it is always going to be subjective yet based on data (body posture, cadence, stride length, GCT, steady heart rate, steady pace, etc.), but you've got the experts to make that judgment. 👍
Running Form Videos - Great idea. Would be so helpful to avoid injuries. Once I heard AND felt someone coming up on me from behind as thunderous as an earthquake, on hard asfalt. "He will have no knees and hips 10 years from now" was all I was thinking in disbelief. Why do people destroy their bodies so mindlessly? I'll never understand.
Seeing that 5.0 on Aerobic training effect made me laugh. I had that pop up for me this weekend doing my last long run before a half marathon, and I felt pretty good. That device is pretty neat though. I could probably use it to help my running form.
It is a really nice piece of kit, great for when you really want to deconstruct your running form.
Great effort guy’s.
Thank for watching Dave!
Amazing!
Which devices and apps are there to get that verticality/efficiency reading? Anything in the apple ecosystem?
Well done 👏👏👏
Thanks Nuna!
Great video! I assume it was a cross training day for Sarah??? This video was much better with regards to not being a advert for Garmin. Was useful seeing what it actually does and the stats from it. But great video and WOW what good times! I can only dream of those!!
Thanks for the feedback Kingsley.
Running Channel
Love the video, awesome massive thumbs up. Love to see a rematch. (That would be awesome)
30 seconds head start for Manni, same distance (10km race)
How would Andy try and close it down, close it down from the gun, or would Andy try and gradually close it down.
Would think it would be a very close race at end (photo finish) and massive thumbs up for video
Who knew Manni was the king of trash talk! 😆 Great job to you both, and congrats to Andy! Loved the data, it's almost too bad it doesn't talk (yet), like "faster off your left foot" or something. I'm sure it's coming...
Having Siri commentary would be very cool Kelly, thanks for watching!
This just reinforced what I've already believed... My stride length is a bit too short and vertical oscillation too high. I'm convinced it's due to poor push-off strength so I'm relying on bounce instead to driving forward. Pretty interesting stats, though. Thanks for posting.
Loved this video! Was a nice change of pace (pun). Can I ask watches did you use? I’m looking at getting a fancy pants one for myself
Manni uses the Garmin Forerunner 945 and Andy uses the Garmin Enduro. If you're interested in learning more, we did a watch review earlier in the year that you might find useful. ruclips.net/video/a9NL-B7yS-Y/видео.html
@@runningchannel Thanks :)
Thats not even on my 5,k pb of 36 minutes lol
That's cool and you're both fast. Plz do competitions like that more often. Where's Kate?
Thanks Leeroy. Kate is still working with us, she'll hopefully be back on our couch very soon.