Systema Guy Challenges MMA Pro (Teodor Emi)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • We have one of the most epic sparring sessions from the martial arts archives. In this match, a Systema guy steps up and challenges a Romanian MMA pro. This MMA pro's name is Teodor Constantin Teodor Emi, and earlier that year he had a match with Darren Til. Let's see how this Systema guy does and whether he can pull off any of his flashy and funny techniques that we often associate with Russian Systema. Let us know what you think in the comments!
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    0:00 Epic sparring match commentary
    3:25 Shoutout Tedi Emi
    3:45 Thoughts on the exchange
    4:06 Question for Tedi
    4:18 Fun question for viewers
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  • @tedicombatteam3665
    @tedicombatteam3665 2 месяца назад +57

    Hi Jerry! The story of is sparring is quite interesting: The Systema instructor posted an advertisment for his gym on a romanian fight forum back in 2010. He also stated that ,, if any other martial arts practitioner wants to find out how systema works real time to come for a sparring''. This sounded a little bit as a challenge for other martial arts, that other forum members took it personal and trash talked him that that systema is no good, they will come to his gym and kick is ass, knock him out, stuff like that, but eventually none of them showed up :)) I was the only one that noticed him and come to a sparring, but did not trash talk the Systema instructor because I respected the guy that wanted to test his systema knowledge another martial arts. So I showed up at his gym, with my boxing gloves and I admit that the best way was for both of us to spar with mma gloves, unfortunately i had no extra mma gloves to lend him, so we agreed for a tehnical sparring for me to strike with boxing gloves and him to strike open hand. Before the sparring started I tought that if we will try to hit me full force, I will take my gloves off and go full force also bare knuckle but fortunately it was no need for that, the systema instructor was a honorable person and remained friends afterwards, even went to drink a beer after the sparring. The systema instructor told me that he had a taekwondo background that helped him wih his kicking. I admit that back in 2010 I had pretty limited ground game with only some sanda training, but you saw that even with this I could take him down very easy as you said also and he had no takedown defense or grappling response, so this could be the biggest flaw in systema. For all of your Jerry's subscribers stay tuned! I gave him some hardcore real fights against a romanian famous tv showman that was bashing Muay Thai, MMA, Kickboxing practitioners, the second time we fought i knocked him really hard that he almost died, it is no joke, good thing that he is fine now, wait for Jerry's new breakdown for the fights I gave him :)

    • @crawdadpope
      @crawdadpope 2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you for sharing some more info! Great on both of you for a good respectful sparring session, especially when you got the upper hand. Looking forward to seeing those other fights of yours you mention!

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 2 месяца назад

      If you've ever needed proof that people who practice 'systema' are developmentally disabled, here ya go.

    • @vnm_8945
      @vnm_8945 2 месяца назад

      Tu l-ai batut pe Mircea Badea? Trebuia sa-i bage cineva mintile in cap ca prea se credea smeu si uitase ca bataia doare! :))))

    • @mkleng
      @mkleng 2 месяца назад +3

      Thanks for sharing with Jerry, Tedi! Wow.. you trained in Sanda with all the takedowns too??! Respect!

    • @tedicombatteam3665
      @tedicombatteam3665 2 месяца назад

      @@mkleng thanks for the support, yes I trained and fought Sanda amateur and pro, here are some of my fights on sanda rules ruclips.net/video/6jWAXAJq858/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ZiKM-rejlas/видео.html ruclips.net/video/37iPWVa3Xro/видео.html

  • @cpakken
    @cpakken 2 месяца назад +139

    So is Systema just Wacky Waving Inflatable Tube Man Style?

  • @skipsch
    @skipsch 2 месяца назад +150

    Systema looks like button-mashing

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +12

      Great description!

    • @agengsatya96
      @agengsatya96 2 месяца назад

      ​@@FightCommentary I can't believe it, how can you don't recognize it : ruclips.net/video/FLmlbQst5eA/видео.htmlsi=6KwVdd4lRXx5oof6 🤦🤣

    • @gilmour6754
      @gilmour6754 2 месяца назад +1

      lol this is so dead on!

    • @tyerffej
      @tyerffej 2 месяца назад

      👏👏👏 Nailed it!

    • @discodilip2000
      @discodilip2000 2 месяца назад +1

      Going crazy on the analog stick too 😂

  • @LauraTeAhoWhite
    @LauraTeAhoWhite 2 месяца назад +14

    Systema is another name for ragdoll physics.

  • @coreyyanofsky
    @coreyyanofsky 2 месяца назад +33

    i'll say this for the systema guy: he was very good with throwing low kicks while leaving exchanges, at least at the start

  • @MP-db9sw
    @MP-db9sw 2 месяца назад +16

    Systema guy is wearing camo pants. OF COURSE HE IS 😂
    I think Tedi was holding back a bit but yeah, systema dude did better than I expected.

    • @drgetwrekt869
      @drgetwrekt869 2 месяца назад

      they must be true fans of post apocalyptic folk music like Death In June

  • @DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh
    @DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh 2 месяца назад +53

    In Thailand Thai fighters actually fight hundreds of times for real, that's why they are so strong. It's impossible to learn to fight without feeling the tension of a real fight.

    • @kermit1211
      @kermit1211 2 месяца назад

      and self defense morons claim competing in tournaments won't improve your martial arts😂

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 2 месяца назад +4

      What has this got to do with this fight.

    • @thebodykeepsthescore2828
      @thebodykeepsthescore2828 2 месяца назад +4

      Everything. If this had been full tilt, systema guy would be out. He caught so many punches whilst flailing. it's not even funny​...@mitchjames9350

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly, that's the problem with most trad. martial arts.
      They don't do sparring, they just do some ''forms'' or katas or break some boards but have 0 experience in actual fighting a living opponent.

    • @DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh
      @DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh 2 месяца назад +1

      @@doublep1980 In the old K1 in his Prime we had Karate, Boxing, Muay Thai, Savate and Taekwondo fighters fighting each other it was a dream only true Warriors here such a Golden age.

  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +11

    Make sure to follow MMA Tedi's channel. It's linked in the description and in video cards. His original video has more ground parts that I skipped over. If anyone else has any kind of sparring that's controlled, I will gladly cover it. Our channel is the go-to brand when it comes to these awesome matches, so let's keep digging through the archives and finding awesome stuff like this together!

  • @goukko
    @goukko 2 месяца назад +18

    That systema guy reminds me of those airdancer things.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +2

      What's that? Tell me!

    • @goukko
      @goukko 2 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/hGUpNg6qheY/видео.html@@FightCommentary

    • @TangomanX2008
      @TangomanX2008 2 месяца назад +3

      I think it's these things we're air is being blown into them that look like giant dancing stick men.

  • @TheJiggaNasty
    @TheJiggaNasty 2 месяца назад +4

    MMA guy figured out the long extended lead hand gave the systema problems being out of range and trying to close the distance. But let's credit systema guy! I like his little 360° turn around attacking and deflecting counters attacks

  • @jamesfrankiewicz5768
    @jamesfrankiewicz5768 2 месяца назад +12

    Despite eating a fair number of strikes, Systema guy was smiling all the way through. I think this clearly shows he had an attitude of "How about I test my art out and see how far I can it it!?" rather than "I'm a cocky S.O.B. who thinks my art is better than yours!". It also shows he has taken some hits before and has some level of toughness.

  • @jonnyb6700
    @jonnyb6700 2 месяца назад +12

    Systema kinda seems like how my brother fought me as a kid when he was trying to do moves

  • @Ilethsamael
    @Ilethsamael 2 месяца назад +23

    I'm almost thinking this guys is making it work...kinda

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +5

      Kinda is exactly my description too. Shows promise for sure, but the lack of face protection seems to be its downfall (and the lack of grappling on the ground abilities).

    • @jessepriest2883
      @jessepriest2883 2 месяца назад +1

      It would be cool to see what would happen if he regularly sparred with skilled fighters. A big part of Systema's supposed to be training your reflexes so your body just reacts naturally, which seems to work somewhat based on this video, but you can tell this guy only practices against other Systema practitioners

    • @wissawissa83
      @wissawissa83 2 месяца назад +2

      Y’all are really reaching 😅

    • @mengmao5033
      @mengmao5033 2 месяца назад +2

      His style is both very weird and disconcerting with the smiling. In a street fight, he could easily flail that guard and stall out lots of bad punches. I rate this as surprisingly viable against an untrained fighter. Took a more conventional combat athlete quite a while to time offense through that guard.

  • @superkafir
    @superkafir 2 месяца назад +15

    MMA vs Tecktonik 😂

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +1

      What's Tecktonik?

    • @masdatos779
      @masdatos779 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FightCommentary a very strange dance and musical genre of electronic music that looks exactly like the system fighter
      ruclips.net/video/JqYhuwu614Y/видео.html

    • @DeanBarnett_
      @DeanBarnett_ 2 месяца назад +2

      It's a french street dance, from the mid 00s, kind of looks like Systema. @@FightCommentary

    • @superkafir
      @superkafir 2 месяца назад +2

      @@FightCommentaryIt's a kind of electro dance it was a fashion in France around 2005 there are videos on RUclips you must see that 😂

  • @user-ud9tk4qg6t
    @user-ud9tk4qg6t 2 месяца назад +1

    This is so cool! Great upload, Jerry.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      Glad you like it, and make sure to follow Tedi! His original video with some more ground sections are in the description.

  • @helgar791
    @helgar791 2 месяца назад +13

    Systema = bony arm slap punching.

    • @lastword8783
      @lastword8783 2 месяца назад

      Hes trying not to kill the guy

    • @POTAT-pi7mu
      @POTAT-pi7mu 2 месяца назад

      Systema is a joke in the martial arts world@@lastword8783

  • @ericegle
    @ericegle 2 месяца назад +21

    Mma guy was super nice to this guy

  • @blaa443blaa2
    @blaa443blaa2 2 месяца назад +2

    systema might be the next evolution of fighting. Like that actually works. a bit like aikido flow , "aiki" . It's about controlling the energy thrown at you and rolling with it. Being as relaxed as possible.

  • @dbl8656
    @dbl8656 2 месяца назад +5

    Thanks for sparing us the grappling Jerry!

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, and it gives people a reason to visit Tedi's channel if they want to see that part.

  • @mitchjames9350
    @mitchjames9350 2 месяца назад +2

    Systema looks like if the guys at a rave who dance like they have Parkinson’s created their own fighting style.

  • @quatsch344
    @quatsch344 2 месяца назад +9

    My question is how would this work if they were going 100%. Because obviously this is more of a spar (which is still cool to see!)

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +6

      Yeah. Legit question. Because how does that button mashing generate enough force if this were 100% pressure.

    • @skipinkoreaable
      @skipinkoreaable 2 месяца назад

      I would guess that it would be very similar, but it would end sooner. Presumably Tedi would use a similar strategy but really go hard the first time he clearly gets the upper hand.

    • @lastword8783
      @lastword8783 2 месяца назад

      Mma fighter takes fight to ground and wins. If he kept standing systema guy mightve got him with those eye gouges

  • @Monster_Mick
    @Monster_Mick 2 месяца назад +3

    Systema animal style = Octopus 🐙 style

  • @MrProbstandrew
    @MrProbstandrew 2 месяца назад +4

    the thing is with bouts like this.. (even tho fun and entertaining) dont really show much to effectivness.. I know the mma guy can easily start putting real pressure on the guy, and with strikes or grappling can end the fight.. i dont think the systema guy can. i dont think any of his kicks and strikes can have much power behind them.. fights like this are kinda like when u playing with kidz(or females)..they can get real wild, and it can be hard to control them, without actually hurting them, but at any moment u could just end it..

    • @wissawissa83
      @wissawissa83 2 месяца назад

      Yeah he could have just thrown jab cross hook over and over and dropped the systema guy. A lot of make believe going around on here from those that think this demonstrated anything.

  • @dbl8656
    @dbl8656 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @GameleiraNoChao
    @GameleiraNoChao 2 месяца назад +2

    Haven't seen a lot of Systema, but this was interesting display.

  • @phen_type
    @phen_type 2 месяца назад

    the Systema flailing seems to resemble JKD/Kali in terms of indexing on economy of motion and attempting to land blows out or advance position off of every follow-through and angle

  • @Gramercy_Stiffs
    @Gramercy_Stiffs 2 месяца назад +3

    Despite the fact that Systema guy has all the punching power of Bart Simpson swinging his arms at Lisa, I like that for once a traditional martial arts fighter actually uses the style he has learnt, rather than descending into throwing desperate haymakers like you see in most other match ups.

    • @junichiroyamashita
      @junichiroyamashita 2 месяца назад

      It is funny that you mention that scene. Swinging punches are a feature of southern CMA,and Systema it looks like,and are basically the proper form of an Haymaker. They aim mostly with forearms ,similar to how Thais use the shins to kick. Choy Lee Fut is the most expert at those.
      The funny part is that is the second time i have seen people compare those punches to that scene.

  • @00vTv00
    @00vTv00 2 месяца назад +1

    The fly-swatter guy trying out some flapping skills.

  • @Hwikek
    @Hwikek 2 месяца назад

    I’m trying to find this guy’s match history on Sherdog etc. but I can’t seem to locate it.

  • @gxtmfa
    @gxtmfa 2 месяца назад +3

    The fluidity is interesting

  • @thoruinmagni3644
    @thoruinmagni3644 2 месяца назад +1

    isn t systema supposed to be used mainly with a knife? which could explain most of the hand movement as it would be deadly

  • @Ultradude604
    @Ultradude604 2 месяца назад +1

    I feel like Systema would be a good style if you're high on something and don't feel any pain.

  • @Crayfish3D
    @Crayfish3D 2 месяца назад +1

    I always think the power threshold makes the difference. Wing Chun beats boxing when u are doing slow drills, but falls apart as soon as you go full speed / full contact. This Systema looked pretty good here at half power sparring, at least until he got tired.

    • @de0509
      @de0509 2 месяца назад +1

      No way enough power can be generated from that flailing to actually do real damage. Bruises maybe, but bruises come after a fight and are easily ignored by the body during the fight

    • @Crayfish3D
      @Crayfish3D 2 месяца назад

      ​@@de0509 Yeah conditioned fighter walk through those, but I saw Keith Hackney put 600lb Emmanuel Yarbrough down with a slap.
      Also you can do open hand strikes you can throw full power without breaking your hands

  • @wawaweewa9159
    @wawaweewa9159 2 месяца назад +1

    The unpredictability of sytema is useful but they need to add in physical conditioning and force, change it so it works better

  • @1234Daan4321
    @1234Daan4321 2 месяца назад +1

    I do enjoy the level of confidence you only expect from a drunk Russian lol

  • @dedydet6646
    @dedydet6646 2 месяца назад +2

    Systema guy looks like he had spars before this

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita 2 месяца назад

    Like Ilan from Inside Fighting says: Systema guys don't strike and rechamber,but rather strike the closer target with closer weapon,using the entire body to attack continuously. They prefer using "ballistic" strike,that penetrate the body,rather than hardness. Similar to Fa Jin "issuing energy"
    Honestly i love this approach,using all parts of the body,from all sides and all ranges. Makes you look like Luffy without the rubber. The way he flows is beautiful.

  • @donnyh3497
    @donnyh3497 2 месяца назад

    Systema guy has got lots of kicks! All of them to the nuts 😅

  • @championboy4782
    @championboy4782 2 месяца назад +5

    Systema is body mechanics and calmness under pressure. It is a series of principles that can apply to fighting. Depending on which school of Systema you go to the combat application varies. Online I only see dudes who use that neutral stance, but I eprsonally ahven't seen it used near me.
    My only encounter with systema was a foreign white dude who decided to 'test' us. His guard was closer to a fencing guard, and the main punches were a hook looping to backfist, front kick. What really stood out to me was the way he'd neutralise low kicks, curling his knee in and catching it somehow, then pulling you into a jab.
    High kicks he just moved back then rushed in like a fencer.
    Very unorthodox.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      Please tell me you have footage! Thanks for sharing either way!

    • @championboy4782
      @championboy4782 2 месяца назад +3

      @@FightCommentary I wish. Brother, that was in the days of flip phones.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      I miss those days@@championboy4782

    • @Marianjowalski
      @Marianjowalski 2 месяца назад

      @@championboy4782 I am now aware which systema school it was that you sparred against, but I do know that Col. Kadochnikov actually trains with rapier and uses fencing to explain systema principles.

    • @championboy4782
      @championboy4782 2 месяца назад

      @@Marianjowalski I'll give it a looksie. Didn't know there were different stances between schools.
      Apparantly Kadochnivov is the creator, but strangely, his vids don't show up unless you specify

  • @markhatfield5621
    @markhatfield5621 2 месяца назад +4

    I studied Systema for several years when it was taught in my area and met some of the big guys in seminars and the HQ in Canada. It has strengths and weaknesses like anything else. I found the concepts useful but the teaching methods poor. Further, I learned that in Russia there are several 'styles' of Systema and the version taught here is a 'far left' extreme version which is very different from the others.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      That's so interesting! Do you know what the different styles are called? I'll search them up online to research!

    • @markhatfield5621
      @markhatfield5621 2 месяца назад +2

      I don't know of different names for them. They do look very different from Vlads version, so much so that some say that Vlads version isn't really Systema. Vlads version is the most 'soft'. There is a little of one of the others here in the U.S. The mans name is like Kodnokovitch or something similar to that.@@FightCommentary

    • @hypramgeth7449
      @hypramgeth7449 2 месяца назад

      @@markhatfield5621 Alexi Kadochnikov. He moved from Odessa to Moscow after WW2, studied / researched ballistics and military science and psychology etc, and developed another SAMBO based on principles like physics for evolving your own style. Various systemas have lineage from him and have different specialities. We usually see demonstrations of relaxed efficient movement which (notoriously) doesn't burn many calories to practice. One style which does regularly spar MMA style is called 'Izvor'. This channel (he practices systema and bagua) reviews a lot of systemas and instructors. www.youtube.com/@mikitadou/videos

    • @hypramgeth7449
      @hypramgeth7449 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FightCommentary sorry I answered that replying to markhatfield, I'll repost a bit in case youtube didn't notify you. Various systemas have lineage from Alexi Kadocnikov and have different specialities. We usually see demonstrations of relaxed efficient movement which (notoriously) doesn't burn many calories to practice. One style which does regularly spar MMA style is called 'Izvor'. This channel (he practices systema and bagua) reviews a lot of systemas and instructors.

  • @TheGushroom
    @TheGushroom 2 месяца назад +1

    Systema looks like that famous Russian grandmaster

  • @ubahfly5409
    @ubahfly5409 2 месяца назад +1

    When I spar my untrained little brother knowing moms will eff me up if I go above 10% intensity.😂

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 2 месяца назад +2

      This is hilariously accurate!

  • @marvinkoppel2568
    @marvinkoppel2568 2 месяца назад +1

    Systema is a fight style for flat earthers.

  • @SupaChinido
    @SupaChinido 2 месяца назад

    Looks like a tie, but systemaaguy was eating punches like eating his breakfast

  • @ritcheymt
    @ritcheymt 2 месяца назад

    This video is just blurry enough for me to imagine that Systema Guy is actually Andy Kaufman.

  • @ghouliethousandtrouser2905
    @ghouliethousandtrouser2905 2 месяца назад

    It's interesting and pretty impressive how he's doing all the slow, fluid stuff with legit opposition and not getting his arse handed to him. I thought they just did that stuff mostly in training to build muscle memory and reflexes and whatnot. It's kind of a shame how so few martial artists seem to take systema seriously enough to challenge it for real, if nothing else, it's fascinating in concept and needs more documentation. From my understanding of it, systema done "properly" is like "grandad brawling" (if you've ever seen a 75 year old dude fkn wreck someone you'll know exactly what I mean), with a weirdly psychological, almost "sleight of hand" element to it (that'd be the bullshido, but I like to imagine it's the product of weird research they did in the 60s 😆)

  • @agricolaurbanus6209
    @agricolaurbanus6209 2 месяца назад +1

    I am surprised. Systema guy survived longer than expected.

    • @dahui58
      @dahui58 2 месяца назад

      Only because he let him up from the ground

    • @doyourownresearch7297
      @doyourownresearch7297 2 месяца назад

      it was charity. An actual fight he is worth 5-10 seconds

  • @demiurgeobzen327
    @demiurgeobzen327 2 месяца назад

    Systema guy wasnt doing all that bad early in the session, but once Teddy figured him out and got his timing down it went downhill from there lol. Thats the beauty about actual combat sports, it teaches you to adapt and overcome.

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 2 месяца назад

      Yeah you always want time to feel out these weird style guys so they don't catch you with something you never seen before
      Just like rolling with a white belt in grappling, they are most likely to give you an injury paradoxically lol

  • @belzebul
    @belzebul 2 месяца назад +1

    Systema shows some similarities to some drunken style kung fu (kick at 0:50 and the fluidity in general) , I wonder whether there was a connection back in history.
    I mean China has a Russian border, it may have been that some drunken style techniques were brought there then it became an own style.

    • @cgsec2275
      @cgsec2275 2 месяца назад

      I can 100% say the guy who invented Systema was high on vokda

  • @clapdrix72
    @clapdrix72 2 месяца назад +1

    That MMA guy looked like he started training 2 weeks ago. He fought Darren Till?? I don't believe it.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +1

      He’s improved a lot since this video. This was from 2010.

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 2 месяца назад

      I think he is trying not to hurt the developmentally disabled dude.

    • @clapdrix72
      @clapdrix72 2 месяца назад

      @@evrythingis1 That's not what it looked like to me at all

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 2 месяца назад

      @@clapdrix72 It looks exactly like a guy doing light sparring with a guy with mental disabilities. You see it at least once a year in every real martial arts gym when people come in from a bullshido school.

    • @clapdrix72
      @clapdrix72 2 месяца назад

      @@evrythingis1 I disagree

  • @DeathxThexKid100
    @DeathxThexKid100 2 месяца назад +4

    The early success is predicated only on how unusual systema is.
    If you've never faced such a goofy style before then you're going to get bamboozled closer to the start of the fight.
    And based on what was demonstrated at the end, if the fight goes on long enough a legit fighter will know what to do to stay out of the range that makes what you do work.
    Early success =/= long term promise.
    Now with that said, I think the prospect of systema (if you're convinced that systema shows promise) is learn other legit forms of combat, then learn systema.
    Then basically do what the guy in the video did.
    His weird arm movements and strange stance is unorthodox enough to give you an early advantage and hopefully end the fight in the first few moments.

    • @viobull5548
      @viobull5548 2 месяца назад

      All real-world martial systems are this way, if the fight goes on longer than 10 seconds, it's not efficient enough to save your life.

    • @DeathxThexKid100
      @DeathxThexKid100 2 месяца назад

      @@viobull5548 This isn't a modern warfare context.
      And to assume all fights need to/do/should end quickly is making some bold assertions as to how fights can/normally go.
      Which is: neither person knows how to fight and are unathletic/haven't done much physical activity in years, the expend all thier energy early, get gassed and walk away with thier chests puffed out.
      The Systema guy showed up to spar an MMA fighter and MMA trains to end things quickly, but can play the long game.
      If you can play the long game then you can play the quick game.

    • @viobull5548
      @viobull5548 2 месяца назад

      @@DeathxThexKid100 MMA is inefficient compared to real-world self-defense systems. Which makes sense considering it's a sport. If you're learning a system for urban self-defense and your fights last longer than 10 seconds, then either you're not good enough or the system you're learning is not good enough.
      This of course was just friendly sparring, a lot of what makes real-world techniques viable is the mentality and brutality of the attacks. Imagine explosive eye pokes and throat chops, groin kicks with your whole-body weight behind it, there's no safe way to spar those kinds of techniques so the systems that specialize in them look silly.

    • @DeathxThexKid100
      @DeathxThexKid100 2 месяца назад

      @@viobull5548 While my personal philosophy considering the subject is on a similar page (I.E. that you should end the confrontation as quickly as possible and to not mess around) I will still say that your mindset is completely reductive.
      Unless you control the fabric of reality there is no guarantee that the fight will end as quickly as you want it to.
      What makes your eye pokes, your groin strikes, and your throat chops effective is to learn how to fight.
      Eye pokes work wonders if you already know how to box.
      Groin shots work great with kickboxing/or muay thai.
      learn how to fight against honest resistance and build up a gas tank.
      Even the guys who preach "end the fight as fast as you can" still acknowledge that whoever you're fighting might still get up again or if he has friends/ any combination of factors.
      You need to know how to play the long game, even if you seek to end things as quick as possible.

    • @DeathxThexKid100
      @DeathxThexKid100 2 месяца назад

      @@viobull5548 (I apologize for the second comment, for some reason the first one got taken down)
      Personally, my philosophy is to end things as quickly as they start.
      Which that being said, I still disagree with the idea that "MMA is inefficient"
      MMA fighters will take up easy and quick ways to end things as quickly as possible.
      You think they want to play the long game when concussions/ serious injury is the punishment for taking too long/losing?
      The only reason you think it's "Inefficient" is that you watch and MMA fighter fight other MMA fighters 98% of the time.
      They sorta cancel each other out.
      If you put any fighter that practices one art into the cage with a well rounded MMA fighter, they are going to get easily and quickly dominated in one aspect that they do not train in.
      It's the same for Judo.
      The only reason competitive Judo matches, or tachi-waza Randori takes forever is that both people know what tricks exist and not to give too much to the other guy if they want to win.
      It's the same for pretty much anything.
      Are grandmasters in chess somehow lesser if they think about a position for "too long" or the match goes above a particular arbitrary number of moves?
      You outed yourself.
      You have no idea what's going on.

  • @CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe
    @CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe 2 месяца назад +2

    A systema fightetr beat a sambo fighter at "Ganryujima" competition. They seem to use the same " relaxation so I can't be tackled to the floor"concept. Here it also looks like they copy from TongBei Quan.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      WHAT? That's amazing. Can you share me a link? Did the Ganryujima channel ever upload that match?

    • @CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe
      @CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe 2 месяца назад

      ​@@FightCommentaryI'll try to find the video. It's in Japanese and shows either 10 or 7 bouts from Garyunjima.
      I think got two bouts mixed up The systems fighter fought a hardcore muaythai fighter, grounded and pounded him, but lovsedthe decision. A Kudo or shooto fighter fought a sambo fighter and won fighting like this systems fighter here with hands down, but no arm flail.

  • @DreanPetruza
    @DreanPetruza 2 месяца назад

    Nothing we saw here about systema would work at full contact, I'm pretty sure

  • @Onlybhstrpes
    @Onlybhstrpes 2 месяца назад

    Are we just going to ignore what that Systema dude did to the Romanian cat at min.2:00?? -Put it i slow-motion... (go to settings and choose 0.25)

  • @agengsatya96
    @agengsatya96 2 месяца назад

    that systema guy is fight/move like master matveev 🤣

  • @immortalwarrior2406
    @immortalwarrior2406 2 месяца назад

    Good to see martial arts not fighting like kickboxing and using their style.

  • @somerandomperson8282
    @somerandomperson8282 2 месяца назад +2

    The systema fighter looked like he was doing a parody... that is truly embarassing to watch. How can grown men do this and think they are learning to fight? Pure Bullshido.

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 2 месяца назад

      Because most of them are Russian, LOL

  • @viproverwatch8044
    @viproverwatch8044 2 месяца назад +3

    The Systema dude...even if/when he makes contact with his arm and kick flaying he is NOT going to hurt anyone with them. Those "kicks" are not going to hurt anyone.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      Ilan from Inside Fighting has a good argument for systema. I'll bring him on soon to analyze this!

    • @wissawissa83
      @wissawissa83 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FightCommentaryyeah bring someone else in that’s wrong lol.

    • @RAPEDBYBLACKS
      @RAPEDBYBLACKS 2 месяца назад

      @@wissawissa83lmao

    • @doyourownresearch7297
      @doyourownresearch7297 2 месяца назад

      @@wissawissa83 lets get the whole orange bus up in here

  • @user255
    @user255 2 месяца назад

    The Systema guy has zero power in his hands.
    0:45 This was Systema guy apologizing kick to the groin.

  • @mordi2537
    @mordi2537 2 месяца назад

    He looks like that Russian Vodka guy😊

  • @PazCristo
    @PazCristo 2 месяца назад

    want to see Dan the Wolfman

  • @user-iw7ds4vh8j
    @user-iw7ds4vh8j 2 месяца назад

    dude that guy has good reflexes and flexibility. could probably be pretty good if he trained mma

  • @robbanbobban2
    @robbanbobban2 2 месяца назад

    The engine Systema uses is interesting, but the complete lack of centerline protection is questionable.

  • @jdiaz4877
    @jdiaz4877 2 месяца назад +1

    Systema guy did really well Imo obviously he didn't win but against an MMA fighter most people would crumble!

    • @wissawissa83
      @wissawissa83 2 месяца назад

      The MMA guy barely tried

  • @WhoThisMonkey
    @WhoThisMonkey 2 месяца назад +1

    Systema is out of the box thinking, certain principles are definitely worth taking on board, but they stuck to those principles too much and went overboard. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +1

      I think that's a great way to describe it!

  • @VMP666
    @VMP666 2 месяца назад +1

    Heard stories of Systema guys breaking their arms while throwing those stretched-arm punches. The only thing this dude had going for himself was what every noobie who spars has - he was totally unpredictable, and that can be a real problem. But after a while he ate shot after shot. Anyone can drop their arms, flail and spam nut kicks. For a super-duper tough real life war martial art he had nothing in the grappling departament.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +1

      That's crazy but makes sense about them breaking their arms. They have no structure behind those stretched arm punches.

    • @justinclark3793
      @justinclark3793 2 месяца назад

      I think it's more that the MMA guy fights for real, and the systema guy doesn't. Practical systema still includes blocking, slips, and bobbing and weaving. The loose arm strikes are meant to be less wild, and less frequent than this guy was showing us. I've been using systema to supplement my boxing for years, and it definitely works when each opponent you face is a total stranger who knows nothing about your fighting style. It just doesn't work in full fights between professionals. It's definitely leaning on the element of surprise a bit, and so I see why many don't appreciate what it has to offer.

    • @VMP666
      @VMP666 2 месяца назад +1

      @@justinclark3793 I dunno man. If it only works for people who don't know how to fight I'd say it hardly works at all. I thought we left stuff like this behind when people started fighting in cages in the 90s.

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 2 месяца назад +1

      Every one of his limbs would be broken in a real fight if he was swinging them around with such little strength behind them.

    • @justinclark3793
      @justinclark3793 2 месяца назад

      @@evrythingis1 that's simply not true. There's no such thing as needing to add power for your arms to be tougher. It's a misconception. Flexibility means less damage to yourself, not more.

  • @TimRHillard
    @TimRHillard 2 месяца назад +1

    This is gonna go bad, isn't it?

  • @AOMartialArts
    @AOMartialArts 2 месяца назад

    Whoa!! The systema guy looks almost like the Russian drunk-fu silly claw dance guy..... You know the meth-head looking guy who does the flailing arm elbow claws with backward stomp kicks...
    That guy.

  • @Vekren
    @Vekren 2 месяца назад

    Oohhh that “pro” could throw some more straight hand strikes. The guy wide tf open.

  • @ninjamaster7724
    @ninjamaster7724 2 месяца назад

    Systema man looks like rubberman.

  • @doyourownresearch7297
    @doyourownresearch7297 2 месяца назад +1

    i am stunned by how clueless this comment section is. Systema guy is a clown and even I could knock him out in 20 seconds or even with my minimal wrestling and BJJ finish him in under a minute with grappling

    • @cgsec2275
      @cgsec2275 2 месяца назад

      A girl just doing yoga moves could knock out Systema guy

  • @altermellion6984
    @altermellion6984 2 месяца назад

    For once, a guy that actually applied his style and it looks like what is advertised. And he did okay, I think. Most of the styles, when put under pressure, boil down to regular kickboxing, in a way.

  • @immortalwarrior2406
    @immortalwarrior2406 2 месяца назад

    We not floppy in bagua.

  • @rubendamian8636
    @rubendamian8636 2 месяца назад

    Mma guy? 😂😂😂

  • @Basta11
    @Basta11 2 месяца назад +2

    Systema seems worse than being untrained.

  • @lordMartiya
    @lordMartiya 2 месяца назад

    This is the first time I see someone who uses Systema and can actually fight.
    All the ones I've seen in the past were weirdos at best and scammers at worst...

  • @saturnianrings3920
    @saturnianrings3920 2 месяца назад

    0:51 systema guy could have used a spinning back fist there, with that lame kick as a feint set up.

  • @Ilethsamael
    @Ilethsamael 2 месяца назад +6

    I'm genuinely impressed by the systema guy even if he was clearly outclassed.

  • @danguillou713
    @danguillou713 2 месяца назад

    Systema guy has some actual moves. Not enough to seriously challenge a legit competitive fighter, but some of that weird stuff was working. He was moving in and out of range, he was blocking and dodging in non-intuitive ways, and landing occasional hits.
    Ok, I know that there are Systema gyms that are straight cults, and teach made-up woowoo. But this wasn’t that.
    Interesting.

  • @tigersnowy6979
    @tigersnowy6979 2 месяца назад +1

    Mma guy should have been able to light him up, poor performance by both

  • @cheapfm
    @cheapfm 2 месяца назад

    it’s like a wet noodle

  • @sherlockbonez
    @sherlockbonez 2 месяца назад

    Systema is the russian drunken boxing.

  • @mark6302
    @mark6302 2 месяца назад

    where's the guy who stops knives with his sloppy belly fat

  • @jasonkennedy1670
    @jasonkennedy1670 2 месяца назад

    Muay Thai #1👆

  • @FxSxRxZ
    @FxSxRxZ 2 месяца назад

    you really didn't need to tell us the systema guy was in camo. Full intensity, Systema guy was getting KOd

    • @doyourownresearch7297
      @doyourownresearch7297 2 месяца назад

      i would say 10 seconds he would be finished

    • @cgsec2275
      @cgsec2275 2 месяца назад

      He thought if he was wearing camo the other guy would not be able to see him. He was wrong

  • @clanterminaition3257
    @clanterminaition3257 2 месяца назад

    Akira sit lek in the ganryujima is the best Systema fighter

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane 2 месяца назад

    The systema guy has some skills. However, they both should either wear gloves or no gloves. Why is Teddy wearing gloves?

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад +1

      He's trying to be safe. I'm sure systema guy explained he can't do any systema with gloves.

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 2 месяца назад

      @@FightCommentary Thx!

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      I'm getting Tedi to write a comment that I'll pin soon about the behind the scenes, so we'll find out more about this soon ;)

  • @911Salvage
    @911Salvage 2 месяца назад

    Systema and krav maga belong in the same basket.

  • @MoonBeast5
    @MoonBeast5 2 месяца назад

    I don't know if it's true, but I heard Teodor was paid to go easy on this guy.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      Interesting! I hope Tedi comments so we get his side of the story!

  • @justinclark3793
    @justinclark3793 2 месяца назад

    I used systema to supplement my boxing, for street fights. It's not practical for combat sports, where people study each other, but it's great for real life self defense. It's not only good for avoiding damage, but it has this effect where your opponent is so shocked they often give up the fight

  • @viobull5548
    @viobull5548 2 месяца назад

    The stuff that is effective in real life self-defense rarely looks good in sparring. Systema looks designed to eye gouge and throat chop. Most of these real-world martial systems do, because why not?

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, I've definitely seen lots of throat hits in systema flow demos. Wonder if they can translate in sparring.

  • @THX-vb8yz
    @THX-vb8yz 23 дня назад

    This isn't going to end up good for the "Systema" guy.....

  • @youngmf6052
    @youngmf6052 2 месяца назад

    Definitely not what Bagua is supposed to look like. This guy is spaz meets Mr fantastic rubber arms. Not good

  • @EliteBlackSash
    @EliteBlackSash 2 месяца назад

    BaGua suppose to look like Mongolian Wrestling whole carrying a blade, not turning your back to run / car lot air noodles. Lol what

  • @1man1year150
    @1man1year150 2 месяца назад

    you can see the MMA guy is just toying with him lol

  • @florintanase9348
    @florintanase9348 2 месяца назад

    incredible how weak the defence of the mma guy is....

  • @matthewtaylordeoppressolib7141
    @matthewtaylordeoppressolib7141 2 месяца назад

    Systema doing fundamentally bad things

  • @scaleworksRC
    @scaleworksRC 2 месяца назад

    pfff 😆🤣😂

  • @goosegotweed
    @goosegotweed 2 месяца назад +1

    We need to see systema vs 52 blocks!

  • @burningknuckle26
    @burningknuckle26 2 месяца назад

    Ryakbo would win