Just adding. I got the 3302 with backhoe, it actually does really well. 7 ft deep hole, been pulling stumps on average oaks or maples to clear an area.
Agree with everthing you said. Especially the 3 points( SSQA up front, 3rd function valve, and ballasted rear tires). I have the L4701 and have absolutley loved it for all the work you described. Regens while I'm working it and never an issue. Great tractors and I highly recomend any in the standard L series. Good video.
I ended up going with a Mahindra 1640 hst with a cab. I was looking at this Kubota but went with the Red Indian as the dealer and garage are 10 miles away ;)
One nice benefit (I think) of the B2650/LX26x0 ROPS model is that it uses the primary tractor seat vs a buddy seat for the BH. I usually keep a short stick (of sorts) so I can lean over the seat to push the treadle pedal. Any more I do what my SiL does which is to lift the feet and use the backhoe to go backward or forward. That said, repositioning is a pain but just part of the process for a multi-purpose tractor. Would be awesome if there was a enough room to stay on the seat and just swing around like a full size TLB has. I have 1 acre in a subdivision so I'm already over the top with my setup. But, if I ever get some recreational property I'm sure I'll add a mini-Ex or a skid steer (maybe both) :)
I have over 200 hours on my 3902. No complaints. Logged, brush hogged, run the chipper, and maintain 1/2 mile driveway. No regrets. Incidentally I got the anniversary edition for the free quick hitch.
Sounds good thats pretty decent hours. You are getting the use out of it! What chipper did you buy? I was looking at the woodland mills for the hydraulic infeed
We have the woodland mills. Hydraulic in feed. If I had to do it over I would of gotten the next model up. Higher blade speeds. We have chipped a lot of white oak. Our model is the WC 68. If you don’t have a set of forks for the tractor I highly recommend them. They are used more than the bucket.
@@tigerm08 i have forks grapple and a hydraulic post hole digger with a 12 inch auger. Super handy. Sounds good so you would recommend the 8x8 one? That was my theory im not going to throw a solid log in, its going to be sticks so i dont want it choked off
The belts on the chipper increase the blade rpm. Ours works great, had two clogs in 30 hours of chipping. Green wood is best rotten wood will clog it. My auger is pto so far no complaints. The grapple is awesome. If you have a lot of trees to deal with look at the Hudson logging winch. It’s basically a 500 lb plate with 230 feet of cable. I go a bit about idle but it will pull a lot of trees and it doesn’t tear up the tractor. The harder the pull the deeper the plate digs in. Incidentally my powerstroke is an 04 lariat that spent its life in California before returning to Indiana.
@@tigerm08 iv been wanting to build my own logging winch. Using a hydraulic pump hooked to pto and a hydraulic winch. I havent gotten the time but id like to get around to that. It would be great for other things that need dragged too
You are way off on the backhoe statements. I have a 2017 B2650 with a BH77 backhoe, rear tine tiller, box scraper, rear blade and front forks. The BH77 is amazing. I've dug out a dozen 12-18" oak and walnut trees, a half dozen 12-14" white pine trees. 2 x 12(ish) red bud trees, dug out 200 yards of a french drain. plus much much more. It's not a Case fullsize dedicated TLB but for a residential consumer who uses it for his own property, shares with his family and helps friends its an incredible tool. You mention renting one. This is exactly the reason I bought my tractor. I was removing an inground pool and compared the cost of renting equipment vs just buying something and the numbers came out I may as well buy it. I never imagine how useful and helpful having my "orange wheelbarrow" would be. Can truly say I was missing out up to that point in my life. To rent I have to have the proper size truck to move the implement or pay a higher fee to have it delivered / picked up. Plus, when you rent you have pressure to get it one within the window of the rental. When I own the piece of equipment if I have rain or something comes up I can just reschedule. I'm not out several hundred dollars. I get your intent but you were a bit too casual with your statements enough that I felt the need to to comment. By the way, I have been considering upgrading my B2650 to a L3902 (waiting for the L02 models as I believe the L01 models were deficient compared to my B model. However, I don't "need" the "02" model but want it. Why you may ask? My B 2650 is amazing as it is light and nimble enough to move and do everything I've asked. There have been a few times where I wish I had a 1000 lb of extra tractor weight and a few hundred lb's of lift capacity. Is it worth it? Well, I haven't upgraded yet. I love the Grand L's and Grand L LE's but the tractors are a bit too big and too expensive for my needs.
@@BrickyardPowerMan im glad yours worked out for you. For sure for french drains it would be great. Considering backhoe is not my primary use i find what its capable of is not worth putting it on or off. I do think they have improved the backhoe attachment system in the new models. I just find for the 12 grand it was i think renting a real mini is a better investment for most people for the few times they would need it
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 It takes my son-in-law about 8 minutes to add the backhoe and maybe 5 minutes to remove. Probably takes me 12 and 10 minutes respectively as I'm older and slower. I have a harder time attaching the PTO for my rear tine tiller than I do the backhoe. It is gangly - several people have built nice dollies to set them on so they can be moved around a shop. I don't have that luxury so it gets placed where it gets placed. Looked up the cost of my BH77 bought in 2017. It was about $7500 list price which included a 16" bucket. It is now $10,000 for the same setup - frame, backhoe and a 16" bucket on the L02 models as well as the LX2610, LX2620 which are the newer models to my B2650.
@@BrickyardPowerMan then they have vastly improved the geometry yours. Im speedy with the loader and deck but the backhoe on mine sucks. Perhaps a more open work space would help being its always in the way its tucked in a back corner of the barn out of the way. Since 2 years its been used a handful of time
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 They BH77 for example does have a couple of different configurations based on the model and tractor configuration. If the tractor is a B2650/LX26x0 cab model, the BH seat sits outside the cab. If it is a ROPS model then you flip around the primary tractor seat. L01 or L02 are all ROPS models and I seem to recall the BH uses a small seat on the frame and NOT the primary tractor seat. I find this interesting because If I bought a L02 model and wanted to keep my current BH77, I'm not certain I could use it as is and may need to replace or buy extra pieces. Without a doubt I would have to buy the subframe that fits the L02 as I'm certain the one from my B2650 wouldn't work. Haven't dug that deep into it. What I have thought about is keeping my B2650 with the BH77 and if I were to upgrade to a L02 model that I would focus on other tools for it such as a grapple. It's all wishful thinking which is why I haven't done anything. My B2650 does everything I need it to today.
@@BrickyardPowerMan i think mine is a bh75 which i think only means its older. I was just actually in call with the local kubota dealer and asked if they could get mounts for l2502 to use my back hoe so it at least would do something besides sit. I dont need 3 point capability at my cabin just loader capability so i was thinking it would make a great counter weight besides hole digging. I just know 12k has sat and depreciated down to probably 4 grand so it to me was a useless purchases. I wish we had put 12k else where. In contrast the loader and mower had exceptional use. The other thing we didnt use was an angling blade. For a gravel driveway the loader works much better. So i ended up selling that to a friend who wanted it. I think a box blade was a better buy and i ended up with one after
There's a ton you can do with the backhoe, just not overly fast. You can get a manual or hydraulic thumb. Great that you've got an opinion, but folks should now question it
@@Cacheola for most backhoe buyers they collect dust. If your space to operate is small and your jobs are smaller it might work well for those people. For alot of people who have more room and bigger jobs, they find the backhoe to be undersized and under productive. I dont want people to spend 12 grand for something they wont really enjoy and just have to store
In my opinion it is a superior work engine and that is the only reason we are here. You can really feel how far down torque is on yanmars with the same hp. Im not a john deere hater at all. But i have a hard time accepting the price hike for what you get. I think for instance the 1025r would be a better tractor with a kubota engine. I think its a decently though out tractor with a weak engine. I can see why people like them though its a good tractor size and capability
The Land Pride implements have 3 point hitch point with the same dimensions. My Italian spreader, my Mississippi made middle buster, my India made rake all have different hitch point dimensions and require radical adjustment to the three point. No, the quick hitch does not work for those adjustments.
@@davidpoole8667 if im not mistaken i pointed out in this video or others that quick hitch compatibility is an issue and land pride equipment solves that issue. You need to specifically find out what pattern your “quick hitch” equipment is and its likely going to be an issue if its an off brand.
our kubota dealer fitted us up the matching size attachments with our new l4760 and saved alot money and $35,000 was pretty cheap $2500 off the tractor,$800 off the loader and $500 off lbucket and forks and $600 off the blower so was pretty good deal cheaper then paying redicluas $86,980 for a 30hp deere 3032 wich was redicuas thats why we love our l4760 and fits on sidewalks nice bit wider though but saves the back
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 yeah and they were gonna offer us $12,000 for the old 6110 deere for trade in but kubota dealer gave us $39,980 on it wich was a better fair trade
Its really all about frame size. The l60 is bigger/ heavier. Slightly. So more lift and pulling capacity. And a fancier hydrostatic system but no manual trans option. And the cab. You are right the l02 is cheeper but its also a physically smaller tractor. On trails on a property a small tractor might make alot of sense. And for transport. 48 hp vs 40. But the 40 is in a heavier tractor so more loader lift, 3 point lift and tractive force. Ie it can pull more. So there are trade offs here. Mx is similar frame to a l60 but its more basic, like the l02 is
Great question. Its the 50th anniversary Model which i think adds them. I believe they were not standard on L01 but i think they could be on L02 and i believe being its a 50th, i think it for sure was standard. I did not add them. Be for warned, steering wheel does not tilt but i like it tipped up anyway
I bought a new L2501 DT with LA526 loader because it is made fully in Japan (the only one that is). the quality is great and does NOT have after treatment. I have been a diesel mechanic for 27 years now, i do it everyday for a living, aftertreatment is crazy and expensive $$. if you can do with out it that's the best opp, and you will have problems with it sooner or later.
@@km4fsi827 the 2501/02 is a very interesting model. Iv been eying getting one for my cabin. Perfect land work tractor. And you honestly dont need more than 25 hp to till or brush hog.
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Just adding. I got the 3302 with backhoe, it actually does really well. 7 ft deep hole, been pulling stumps on average oaks or maples to clear an area.
Good to hear. I’m clearing twenty acres of pines to bring back the previous pasture and getting rid of stumps is a primary concern
Agree with everthing you said. Especially the 3 points( SSQA up front, 3rd function valve, and ballasted rear tires). I have the L4701 and have absolutley loved it for all the work you described. Regens while I'm working it and never an issue. Great tractors and I highly recomend any in the standard L series. Good video.
@@joeyw4442 thank you for watching. And commenting. I appreciate it
I ended up going with a Mahindra 1640 hst with a cab. I was looking at this Kubota but went with the Red Indian as the dealer and garage are 10 miles away ;)
Bh77 is good. On and off in 15-20 minutes taking my time.
Nice to have on hand and worth the $$$. In my opinion.
Love my L3902.
One nice benefit (I think) of the B2650/LX26x0 ROPS model is that it uses the primary tractor seat vs a buddy seat for the BH. I usually keep a short stick (of sorts) so I can lean over the seat to push the treadle pedal. Any more I do what my SiL does which is to lift the feet and use the backhoe to go backward or forward. That said, repositioning is a pain but just part of the process for a multi-purpose tractor. Would be awesome if there was a enough room to stay on the seat and just swing around like a full size TLB has. I have 1 acre in a subdivision so I'm already over the top with my setup. But, if I ever get some recreational property I'm sure I'll add a mini-Ex or a skid steer (maybe both) :)
I have over 200 hours on my 3902. No complaints. Logged, brush hogged, run the chipper, and maintain 1/2 mile driveway. No regrets. Incidentally I got the anniversary edition for the free quick hitch.
Sounds good thats pretty decent hours. You are getting the use out of it! What chipper did you buy? I was looking at the woodland mills for the hydraulic infeed
We have the woodland mills. Hydraulic in feed. If I had to do it over I would of gotten the next model up. Higher blade speeds. We have chipped a lot of white oak. Our model is the WC 68. If you don’t have a set of forks for the tractor I highly recommend them. They are used more than the bucket.
@@tigerm08 i have forks grapple and a hydraulic post hole digger with a 12 inch auger. Super handy.
Sounds good so you would recommend the 8x8 one?
That was my theory im not going to throw a solid log in, its going to be sticks so i dont want it choked off
The belts on the chipper increase the blade rpm. Ours works great, had two clogs in 30 hours of chipping. Green wood is best rotten wood will clog it. My auger is pto so far no complaints. The grapple is awesome. If you have a lot of trees to deal with look at the Hudson logging winch. It’s basically a 500 lb plate with 230 feet of cable. I go a bit about idle but it will pull a lot of trees and it doesn’t tear up the tractor. The harder the pull the deeper the plate digs in. Incidentally my powerstroke is an 04 lariat that spent its life in California before returning to Indiana.
@@tigerm08 iv been wanting to build my own logging winch. Using a hydraulic pump hooked to pto and a hydraulic winch. I havent gotten the time but id like to get around to that. It would be great for other things that need dragged too
3302 and 3902 has same engine, 3902 is tweaked to get additional 6hp. The B3350 is the problem child of Kubota.
You are way off on the backhoe statements. I have a 2017 B2650 with a BH77 backhoe, rear tine tiller, box scraper, rear blade and front forks. The BH77 is amazing. I've dug out a dozen 12-18" oak and walnut trees, a half dozen 12-14" white pine trees. 2 x 12(ish) red bud trees, dug out 200 yards of a french drain. plus much much more. It's not a Case fullsize dedicated TLB but for a residential consumer who uses it for his own property, shares with his family and helps friends its an incredible tool. You mention renting one. This is exactly the reason I bought my tractor. I was removing an inground pool and compared the cost of renting equipment vs just buying something and the numbers came out I may as well buy it. I never imagine how useful and helpful having my "orange wheelbarrow" would be. Can truly say I was missing out up to that point in my life. To rent I have to have the proper size truck to move the implement or pay a higher fee to have it delivered / picked up. Plus, when you rent you have pressure to get it one within the window of the rental. When I own the piece of equipment if I have rain or something comes up I can just reschedule. I'm not out several hundred dollars. I get your intent but you were a bit too casual with your statements enough that I felt the need to to comment. By the way, I have been considering upgrading my B2650 to a L3902 (waiting for the L02 models as I believe the L01 models were deficient compared to my B model. However, I don't "need" the "02" model but want it. Why you may ask? My B 2650 is amazing as it is light and nimble enough to move and do everything I've asked. There have been a few times where I wish I had a 1000 lb of extra tractor weight and a few hundred lb's of lift capacity. Is it worth it? Well, I haven't upgraded yet. I love the Grand L's and Grand L LE's but the tractors are a bit too big and too expensive for my needs.
@@BrickyardPowerMan im glad yours worked out for you. For sure for french drains it would be great. Considering backhoe is not my primary use i find what its capable of is not worth putting it on or off.
I do think they have improved the backhoe attachment system in the new models.
I just find for the 12 grand it was i think renting a real mini is a better investment for most people for the few times they would need it
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 It takes my son-in-law about 8 minutes to add the backhoe and maybe 5 minutes to remove. Probably takes me 12 and 10 minutes respectively as I'm older and slower. I have a harder time attaching the PTO for my rear tine tiller than I do the backhoe. It is gangly - several people have built nice dollies to set them on so they can be moved around a shop. I don't have that luxury so it gets placed where it gets placed. Looked up the cost of my BH77 bought in 2017. It was about $7500 list price which included a 16" bucket. It is now $10,000 for the same setup - frame, backhoe and a 16" bucket on the L02 models as well as the LX2610, LX2620 which are the newer models to my B2650.
@@BrickyardPowerMan then they have vastly improved the geometry yours. Im speedy with the loader and deck but the backhoe on mine sucks. Perhaps a more open work space would help being its always in the way its tucked in a back corner of the barn out of the way. Since 2 years its been used a handful of time
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 They BH77 for example does have a couple of different configurations based on the model and tractor configuration. If the tractor is a B2650/LX26x0 cab model, the BH seat sits outside the cab. If it is a ROPS model then you flip around the primary tractor seat. L01 or L02 are all ROPS models and I seem to recall the BH uses a small seat on the frame and NOT the primary tractor seat. I find this interesting because If I bought a L02 model and wanted to keep my current BH77, I'm not certain I could use it as is and may need to replace or buy extra pieces. Without a doubt I would have to buy the subframe that fits the L02 as I'm certain the one from my B2650 wouldn't work. Haven't dug that deep into it. What I have thought about is keeping my B2650 with the BH77 and if I were to upgrade to a L02 model that I would focus on other tools for it such as a grapple. It's all wishful thinking which is why I haven't done anything. My B2650 does everything I need it to today.
@@BrickyardPowerMan i think mine is a bh75 which i think only means its older.
I was just actually in call with the local kubota dealer and asked if they could get mounts for l2502 to use my back hoe so it at least would do something besides sit. I dont need 3 point capability at my cabin just loader capability so i was thinking it would make a great counter weight besides hole digging. I just know 12k has sat and depreciated down to probably 4 grand so it to me was a useless purchases. I wish we had put 12k else where. In contrast the loader and mower had exceptional use.
The other thing we didnt use was an angling blade. For a gravel driveway the loader works much better. So i ended up selling that to a friend who wanted it. I think a box blade was a better buy and i ended up with one after
There's a ton you can do with the backhoe, just not overly fast. You can get a manual or hydraulic thumb. Great that you've got an opinion, but folks should now question it
@@Cacheola for most backhoe buyers they collect dust. If your space to operate is small and your jobs are smaller it might work well for those people. For alot of people who have more room and bigger jobs, they find the backhoe to be undersized and under productive. I dont want people to spend 12 grand for something they wont really enjoy and just have to store
With rear remotes already installed you should consider a top and tilt kit if you use a box blade or similar implements
@@sfh422 thinking about top, dont think i need the tilt. That is the plan i just havent had the time
My 2011 Tacoma tows around 6500 lbs. I run rear airbags for leveling.
@@calhoov you could for sure tow a l or smaller around with a taco
The big block comp is a good one. My l2501 has torque for days. Will outwork many other 25 hp machines. Makes about 20 more ft lbs. over 3025
In my opinion it is a superior work engine and that is the only reason we are here.
You can really feel how far down torque is on yanmars with the same hp.
Im not a john deere hater at all. But i have a hard time accepting the price hike for what you get.
I think for instance the 1025r would be a better tractor with a kubota engine. I think its a decently though out tractor with a weak engine.
I can see why people like them though its a good tractor size and capability
The Land Pride implements have 3 point hitch point with the same dimensions. My Italian spreader, my Mississippi made middle buster, my India made rake all have different hitch point dimensions and require radical adjustment to the three point. No, the quick hitch does not work for those adjustments.
@@davidpoole8667 if im not mistaken i pointed out in this video or others that quick hitch compatibility is an issue and land pride equipment solves that issue. You need to specifically find out what pattern your “quick hitch” equipment is and its likely going to be an issue if its an off brand.
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 ....Great ....validated.
our kubota dealer fitted us up the matching size attachments with our new l4760 and saved alot money and $35,000 was pretty cheap $2500 off the tractor,$800 off the loader and $500 off lbucket and forks and $600 off the blower so was pretty good deal cheaper then paying redicluas $86,980 for a 30hp deere 3032 wich was redicuas thats why we love our l4760 and fits on sidewalks nice bit wider though but saves the back
That is a ridiculous price on that 3032. The 4760 is way more tractor
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 yeah and they were gonna offer us $12,000 for the old 6110 deere for trade in but kubota dealer gave us $39,980 on it wich was a better fair trade
@@michaelmactavish4445 that dealer was trying to murder you my god
Why would you get an L4060 or mx series when this L4802 is so much more cost effective?
Its really all about frame size. The l60 is bigger/ heavier. Slightly. So more lift and pulling capacity. And a fancier hydrostatic system but no manual trans option.
And the cab.
You are right the l02 is cheeper but its also a physically smaller tractor. On trails on a property a small tractor might make alot of sense. And for transport.
48 hp vs 40. But the 40 is in a heavier tractor so more loader lift, 3 point lift and tractive force. Ie it can pull more.
So there are trade offs here.
Mx is similar frame to a l60 but its more basic, like the l02 is
Great vid, are those armrests on the seat standard with the 3902 model or are those aftermarket? Looking for some for my l2502.
Great question. Its the 50th anniversary
Model which i think adds them. I believe they were not standard on L01 but i think they could be on L02 and i believe being its a 50th, i think it for sure was standard. I did not add them.
Be for warned, steering wheel does not tilt but i like it tipped up anyway
Seriously, you needed a quickhitch to attach a trailer hitch
You mean a trailer hitch that goes into my quick hitch? I do have one super handy!
I bought a new L2501 DT with LA526 loader because it is made fully in Japan (the only one that is). the quality is great and does NOT have after treatment. I have been a diesel mechanic for 27 years now, i do it everyday for a living, aftertreatment is crazy and expensive $$. if you can do with out it that's the best opp, and you will have problems with it sooner or later.
@@km4fsi827 the 2501/02 is a very interesting model. Iv been eying getting one for my cabin. Perfect land work tractor. And you honestly dont need more than 25 hp to till or brush hog.