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@@RF-cz4ln no problem thats why im here lol thanks for watching

@@Dennis-fs6zo it was warm enough. But i think it was around 21 degrees. I probably drove 30 miles before making this video

@@st6795 we drive though that willingly to find the best snow. We had to come home in it for work monday morning. Worth it lol. Thanks for your kind words i appreciate all of you.

@@st6795 we dont do that in michigan lol

@@RobertSharp-i6g im glad you got them. I think you will be super safe

@ I in in Texas with nowhere near the winder weather you guys go through but it’s videos like yours that convinced me that they were the correct choice. But I am planning some trips up into Colorado and Wyoming and I wanted to make sure I had my names covered. 👍

Agreed. They dropped the ball on that one a bit however I'm sure it wasn't intentional. I think it was just a weight rating vs weight of the jeep issue.

@@AllAmericanAutomotive you have a good point. I heard about their error putting the LT version on a light jeep but that break test failed way more than that would have caused.very unrealistic. Still say its very fishy and they should apologize and correct it and retest

​@@jimclark5121I think it was a combination of the weight and stiffness of the tire throwing the ABS out of wack I agree they should do a retest and address this

@@jakej5855 its land pride it comes direct from the dealer. Its great because you actually have downpressure and angle control rather than a 3 point that just requires the auger to pull itself down. I feel like i paid 1780 for it i cant remember

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Thanks for the reply. cool video.

@ its amazing how fast it gets a job done iv put it to work a decent amount. More to come this spring. Seams like when you have a good tool you find ways to use it

Couldnt have said it better myself. When you have that big of audience you have a responsibility to be impartial and give everything a fair shake. People who just want i formation to help their buying process are now disregarding a great tire that should be at the top of their choices.

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 absolutely, atleast say guys lets try this again bcuz something isnt right. Atleast give a disclaimer but they did not. Makes u feel like something else is at play. Ive also noticed that when the ko2 came out (for example) it was such a great tire and now that the ko3 is out they act like its not a good tire or the same with the duratrac. Now the duratrac had sidewall issues but these tires dont stop performing well just bcuz a new and improved tire comes out. They are still great tires...its just kinda off to me. The at3w doesnt stop being a great tire bcuz the at4w just came out, like come on

@@rhh197474 they make one that is a 1 inch square receiver that bolts on with 4 bolts and one with a hook (likely set up to pull sleds) with a spring loaded clip to lock it. Uses the same 4 bolt pattern. My dealer threw in both. I used the square.

@@davealling8847 im not trying to attack them but iv always looked at them as a source and have been a fan and a long time viewer/ subscriber. If they simply made a mistake fine. But these are amazing tires and for consumers to disregard them as you and many others have done because of a flawed test and a questionable conclusion, thats downright unfortunate. Lets put it this way, im 300 miles from home right now with a snowmobile trailer after riding all weekend. Im driving all the way home in a snow storm. Instead of having any worry, i have zero worry its going to be a great ride thanks to tires that are awesome in the snow. I dont know how much better you can get than that. Perhaps they had a bad set, had tire pressures maxed out, something wrong with the brake system or abs system or selected sheer ice to test them on instead of nice snow on either side of the compressed tire tracks. Whatever the reason, i made the video because i feel the tires got unfairly condemned and they do not deserve to be regarded as a dangerous tire. Quite the opposite. Driving up we had super icy conditions and even with the snowmobile trailer (no brakes) and 2 sleds, the truck still stops faster than 180 feet from 30. And this was downright slippery glazed stuff. Someone would slip walking on it.

I ran the KO2s on my 4Runner for 65k miles and loved them. A few months ago I bought the KO3s and drove on a forest service road with about half an inch of snow and was sliding all over the place. I returned them immediately and went with the AT4s. I finally tested them on snow off-road this week and they performed great!

I'm pretty sure I saw that the tfl tires were an E load in the comments of that video.

I saw the Tyre reviews test as well for comparisons but their snow day testing on the track was comprehensive due conditions not being right. I think they stated less grip and slightly less braking than other tires but no where near the extent of TfLs results. Hopefully Tyre Review will do a comprehensive snow test, because braking run in the snow isn't a test of a tire at all.

@@davidwethington9320 Yup, you're right actually. I didn't realize they did that - just double checked. It still seems strange the difference was that significant (between tires). Falcon corporate said they stiffened up the tread compound in the 4Ws which likely lead to this outcome. What's interesting is that the 3Ws rank higher in snow performance, yet they still seem to last a long time, even in diesel applications

@@ericGT50 its always on. The factory low pressure threshold is way too high 48 front 50 rear right now. Thats what i tow 17k with. I could air down the rear to probably 35 empty if i wanted to but i like to be able to hook up and go when i need to. 3860 lbs is its max rating at 80 psi. Way more than a single wheel truck needs.

@ thank you. I just put these tires on a a new Land Cruiser and here in western NC we had a fair amount of snow….being recently relocated from Tampa fl I sincerely appreciate your video!

@ i think they will keep you very safe. Seam to be a great tire (for its type) in all relevant conditions. Its been in sand, mud, snow, ice and sloppy goo grass which i suppose is mud but its a bit different. Performed excellent for me. Good all around tire.

@@jflixx i really hope you end up liking your toyos. I think its tragic to misrepresent a tire to your viewers who trust you for info all over potentially a brand deal. I hope it was some other non intentional mistake.

A/T4W’s are hands down better than Toyo’s in winter weather. Assuming you’re referring to the open country AT3’s? TFL has it all wrong.

@@freddyw4555 back rest for the driver? Never seen one before

A backrest makes it more comfortable on the trail

@@AllAmericanAutomotive all fair points. Load range c’s would be even over kill. There is merit in load range d for puncture resistance over load range c. But e’s are going to be way overkill and potentially need to be aired down to like 20 psi for idea contact patch/ loaded shape. I really dont think any of that is going to matter to the ice/ hard pack snow breaking test. If you just choose a line that is ice and test the others on a line with hard pack that could help. But the thing is, on darn near ice i wasnt able to duplicate their test with more than twice the weight and i still stopped in half their distance, i guessed about 60 ish. I was around 80 feet stopping from 40. We could set up cones and measure but i think its pretty obvious we arent quipping about 3-7 feet, we are talking a ridiculous result. I was going to run a test next to my barn which is 100 feet. 180 feet is obviously over double my barn. I was going to see how fast i could still stop in under 100 feet on the snow we had, but i had some work i needed to finish tonight

@@charlesb4267 you are right in most cases. I will say the m/t’s iv ran. Mostly km2, nitto trail grapplers and grabber x3’s have been admirable but now im old, i have a family and i dont randomly drive through mud holes. So having an a/t as my normal tire is perfect for me. In years past i was an mt only guy and just drove them knowing their limitations. I actually have my nittos still i could still toss those wheels on my truck and go test them out. I will say; the way i describe falken at4w’s is they are cheater tires. They make driving in the snow a relaxing day not a chore. And i stand by that statement. Many tires have similar results. I just do think the at3w’s were a cut above and given my experience with at4w’s so far, id say maybe better yet. For sure not the class dog as they were made out to be. Dont think thats a fair shake for a brand that has done alot of innovations in the tire market and are hitting a decent price point in most cases. Their wildpeak rt and mt are also great, innovative tires. My buddy always runs nitto m/t’s. Hes had many sets now. Those tires actually do very well in the snow for an mt. I think better than some of the worse at’s out there

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 I had to laugh at the tire theme you've gone through as well, yes years back I wanted a mud terrain on my first pickup at the time but soon realized that it was not a smart move for the winter time, yes they did good in deeper snow as long as it wasn't glare ice under the snow, but all out glare ice roads were an accident waiting to happen, those were the original KM tires, then I moved to I think it was a Hankook mud tire that could accept studs so that was much better for the ice conditions in comparsion. But after that I moved away from mud tires on my personal pickup to a variety of AT tires, however I do buy mud tires for some of the farm pickups given what they drive on most of the miles they put on as per KM2 and now KM3 although they don't last good at all on the high percentage of gravel driving those pickups see, two wheel drive trucks with little weight on the rear so the muds stay on the rear and only get 8000 miles out of them and have had tire carcass failures at that distance, that didn't exactly make the KM2 tire seem entirely impressive. Last spring I bought a full set of Firestone MT2 mud tires for a 4x4 farm pickup but then didn't happen to have the mud ( thankfully ) to deal with in the fall so can't rate them there and haven't done much in the snow nor any glare ice roads ... yet. Back to A/T tires though, of the various ones I have used through the years that went on any icy roads, the worst ones happened to be the Cooper AT3. I will have to say those tires dated back some years now when they were installed and its very possible they have a different compound now but my god they were awful on glare ice, just as bad as a worn out mud tire, good thing I was not running them during the winter but happened to swap back to them just a little bit too soon one spring and had some ice to contend with. They certainly did not do as well as the original KO tires I had used prior and ironically did not even last as long, they were however more quiet then the KO tires by a fair margin.

@@jimf1450 im not trying to throw shade but i also dont think i agree that falkens are poor tires lol

@@overworked30 thats wild. Some respect lost. They are wonderful tires and the 4 runner is a great one to go snow wheeling in. Got to love suv’s

Everybody that owns these tires have proved that in real world driving situations these are great! Just like the at3ws which i have a set of myself. One of the very best at's on the market. Now, bcuz of that test and how much ppl trust tfl they are losing alot of potential customers. There is def something fishy goin on. They wouldnt even say hey guys this test isnt scientific, there are lots of variables, so just take these results with a grain of salt. Nothing!!

@ i find it really unfortunate. When you have that big of pull i think you are really should bound to extreme honesty and transparency. Lots of people depend on that honesty and transparency. I personally considered tfl a source as well. Thats why im so floored by it. If the tires sucked id happily say so. They just brought us home in a terrible snowstorm that was a mix of snow, rain, glare ice for about 290 miles last night. Nothing but respect we had a 1k snowmobile trailer and about 1300 lbs of sleds in it. No brakes on a smowmobile trailer. The tires did their job

For the most part, the guys at TFL are just paid shills for whoever is paying the bills.

@@RodneySpencer-g8f we noticed that but that milage was about 52k on the jeep. Now we werent beating on them but they were load range c’s. Both the expeditions set and my f350’s set being load range d and e should wear bit longer given their harder compound, id assume. Could be wrong. We had 4 fun winters on the falkens

@@RF-cz4ln no problem at all. Watch the tfl review on them. I cant believe the result. Hence why i made my own

@ I just bought a 2024 ford f350 2 days ago, 6.8 gasser , love it so far , I don’t tow over 8 k so I don’t think the 6.8 will have any issues and I’m hoping for a little bit of gas mileage increase . My 2024 Ram 2500 6.4 hemi was absolutely horrible on gas 11-12 empty.

@ hoping to put a set of Fakens on it soon

@@MrBigAlan66 i absolutely love my tractor. So you have a L3902 and you may upgrade to a L4802? Or do you mean you bought a l4802? You wont gain anything but pto power going from mine to a l4802. You would need to go up a frame size to get more power. I would jump to a mx4800 or mx5200 if you need more than what the l3902 or l4802 offer. I do believe you would do fine with storm clean up with your l4802 or l3902. You would just need to cut largo diameter trees shorter. The grapple should handle a 30 inch log around 6 or 7 feet long id think. To be able to carry, rip out more stuff going up a frame size is the ticket. Not that the l60 isnt a frame size up, it is but i think for hard/ abusive work like that id want an mx not the l60 personally.

@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Yes I get that I just wanted more lift capacity since the 4802 increases that by about 600 more pounds and price point at my dealer was good for this tractor and it still fits in my garage and the total weight of the 4802 is about 800 lbs more so I wished I had purchased the 4802 in my opinion. The steering linkage rods are hidden behind guards also. I have loved using the grapple and I have picked up some heavy weight with it just need more umff. I appreciate your advice and comments and suggestions. I do have rim guard in my rear tires for ballast so that helps alot. We'll see how the clean up goes again once it warms up been hit by a ice storm here in Southern Illinois so more trees down.

@ you are exactly right the LA766 is the one for the L4802 and the LA526 is the one for mine and the 2502. The 4802 came out after i bought mine so it wasnt a part of my search. That is really interesting it has a heftier loader, its the same frame size. I will say you will be more or less limited with stability unless you have filled tires plus a huge 3 point implement to counter weight. The la766 has a max lift weight of 2147 at 1.5 meters off the ground compared to 1506 with the LA526 at 1.5 meters. Max capacity at full height for the la766 is 1675 and for the la526 1144. So the l4802 would be + 641 lbs for max lift at 1.5 meters and + 531 lbs for max lift height. Both of which would make a difference and probably honestly worth the upgrade. I didnt realize it got its own loader. I will say you might get told a really low number for your trade in and for that reason id just take extra trips

@@ShelbyvsViper i wish we had more. We have had pretty mild weather. We had some downpours this springs that had 3 inches of water on the dang windshield. It just never happens at the right time. Like snow! We need a mess so i can make a sweet video !

@@charlesb4267 ill watch it right now

@@charlesb4267 wow. Thats surprising. After literally just driving snow/ hardpack ice covered dirt roads and going out of the way to make the video, i find this so hard to believe. But i can tell you, take any dirt road we have around me right now. Where everyone drives is glazed ice. Exit that a few inches and you are back to a much higher traction surface. I like tfl and iv been watching them for years. I am but a small time youtuber. So i dont want to sound like a small channel attacking a well known one for clout. But at minimum i agree i find that so hard to believe. Iv been basically driving on all similar hard pack shallow snow ice conditions and on two difference vehicles and on two difference sizes of at4w’s and my opinion is nothing but these are cheater tires. So safe and predictable. The falkens are alot heavier that is true. I wonder if they are tripping up the abs system on the jeep. He first said he was applying enough pressure to approach a abs application. It appears he did that for the bfg’s and the firestones. He did appear to just lock them up and abs the falkens down. Being in abs is less braking performance than an impending skid. Id braking just enough to not reach abs. Abs is there to unlock the tire to maintain steering. So if he either on accident locked them up with the falkens id expect worse performance than using limit braking with the other two. I really hate to believe it was done on purpose. If i didnt own two sets i wouldnt be thinking like that. I would be interested to see if the calibration of such a light jeep with such large heavy tires is greatly affected by tire weight. There is no doubt the falkens are heavier. I havent found it to be an issue on a f350 or expedition max but that doesnt mean a two door jeep abs might be displeased about 20 lbs heavier per tire weight. Im so glad you shared this with me because its really got me wondering if its innocent, a simple result of the abs system not working as well with a heavier tire or deliberate. I can greatly change handling and braking by driving on the glazed tracks. Interestingly i havent found doing that to make the truck feel any less safe. Ill do some abs vs not abs tests tomorrow and see how they do and film them. They have 100k views on their video, i wish i could do that and im jealous of that jeep😂

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Thank you for your reply and as I know from watching your videos you don't bs around, you tell it like you experience it for the good and the bad, it just is what it is. That is why I wanted to give you the heads up about that video to get your impression because of now running two sets of the AT4W. I personally have a set of the AT3W but I have so far never had them on a winter road as I have dedicated winter tires. Years ago I had a set of the original KO tires and would say compared to other all terrains I had before and after, they did a bit better as per the ice situation but I will say there is no comparison to a higher end true winter tire even with no studs compared to a typical all terrain tire. That very soft highly siped compound of a NEW winter tire just makes all the difference but even that can't perform miracles ... studs with the same tires gets a little closer yet. Of course this is all out glazed ice I am speaking of, not the compacted snow of that test they did with the Jeep. I have to wonder if like you said, that heavier tire and in theory a bit stiffer sidewall and it is a 10 ply tire after all ( although I believe they all were I think ) , and although they said the tire pressures were the same in all three tire tests, again if one tire lets say doesn't flex as much under the weight of a light Jeep for the size of that tire, the tire performance is going to be different as well. More testing would be needed, lowering pressures to a proper pressure on all tires and so forth. Their testing of the AT4W failed so bad that it would be like comparing a worn out summer tire to a new winter tire, it still blows my mind. Don't worry about your subscriber base or views, yes I realize its all work to do the videos but in all honestly I find some smaller channels that are putting out information for the sake of wanting to share information far more reliable then a huge youtube channel that they are counting on having to make the big bucks as that is their job period so they exaggerate and click bait. Sad to say but these days the key to generating views and drastically increasing subscribers is finding a hot young thing to wear skimpy clothing to add into the video. But don't do that .... 😂

@ iv been watching tfl for a very long time. I have never perceived and all out lie but many times iv found them to not quite know what they were doing. I would say i can recreate terrible performance simply by finding the worst patch of snow to do a braking test on. At the very end of the firestone test it locked of and slipped sideways. That is evidence to me of not a uniform surface. Testing like this is hard to make repeatable simply because of the surface variation so you have to be careful concluding results without back to back to back testing. And taking an average and informing the viewers of the limitations of the test and what efforts you made to keep it uniform, and acknowledge the expected error. None of those expected things were done which is concerning. I would not put my name on that being a irrefutable test. Like i said, i was just driving in sheer ice and even did a bit of braking in this video. I will make time to do more because i really dont believe the at4 got a fair shake. Im a big fan of ko2’s for winter use. They are extremely solid tires too. I did order ko3’s and considered them for my f350. I even intended on doing ko3’s on my expedition. But the performance was so good on the at4’s as well as the way the balanced i went with another set of at4’s on the expedition. I wish i had a large enough channel to do some more head to head testing. I cant constitute buying a 1700 dollar set of extra tires to make 20 bucks on a video lol. If really like to get to that point. Like i said, i dont want to ever have a reputation of a small channel attacking larger channels for publicity but, in this case, a lack of scientific testing followed by a conclusive result is a bit disappointing from a channel i have been watching for years. Im sure you remember the gold mine hill off road test. Simply taking different lines yields different results. And they more or less stated the lines they were using and their own driving skill as a limitation. This video is rather conclusive for the method used in my opinion. Thanks for sharing and it drives me to make more content with clear evidence and testing so consumers have more information to make decisions on. We cant use studded tires here in Michigan on the road. I have owned many sets of true winter tires. Blizzak and mastercraft glacier grips and my dad had a bridgestone set on his fiesta too. There is no doubt true soft winter tires are a cut above and studded is a whole different level

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Doing accurate or may call it "scientific" testing is on a whole other level that takes a lot of attention to detail and eliminating all variables, requiring a lot of repeatable results using accurate instruments or means of measuring the outcomes. Of course TFL threw in some careful wording to make sure they were not accountable to their test results but I saw repeatedly after that video on other channels or forums, those results were certainly swaying future buyers of tires with all the comments flying around about how awful the AT4W did in that test and therefore were going to buy a BFG or something else. An interesting note you may find amusing, years back before BFG came out with the KO2 they did some testing of that tire in this area of Alberta and I assume it was on oilfield pickups given the nature of the testing as it was the testing of the tire on crushed gravel roads. BFG came out with an article in a western Canadian trucking magazine bragging up their new improved KO2 over the original KO tire as to how much more chip and wear resistant it was over the original design and it certainly sounded like a fantastic tire ( again keep in mind its a BFG written article ). This dates back quite a few years now so fast forward to recent times and tire shops that have key people or owners of their store that have been seeing what works and what doesn't for certain applications, they ask the customer what their intended use is, what amount of gravel will you be driving and if its much gravel at all they most definitely do not recommend the KO2 which may shock you but it became apparent that it did not fair well at all due to the rubber chipping but that the carcass would stone drill and the tire would have a catastrophic failure well before it was worn out. And these long time guys in the tire business when I would comment about that article from years back, they all were well familiar with that and just shook their head as the tire did not at all meet the hype that the article made the tire out to be. Having said that, they did recommend it as one of the better A/T tires for winter use but pointing out its never going to perform like a winter tire. So summer before last when I went to more than one tire shop to chat about tires for my pickup and various tires were discussed but zeroed in on the KO2, Toyo AT3 and the Falken AT3W, it was the Falken that was their recommendation out of the three for ability to survive the gravel better. Not that they were claiming it was the ultimate in a gravel tire but that they had way better luck with it holding up to the torture. So who knows how the KO3 and AT4W will play out on the gravel as this takes some years to establish a trend of success or failure ( we have a vast amount of gravel grid roads up here if you were wondering why gravel was an important consideration ). Minnesota and their view on studded tires, yes I came across that rather startling discovery a few years back as I "assumed" of course Minnesota would allow winter tires and I had even driven once through MN during the winter and closer to Minneapolis it was a horrendous glare ice condition at the time as well as into Wisconsin heading east. Blows my mind that they have kept that law in place and as well I believe they don't even allow their own snow plow trucks to put tire chains on if conditions warrant it, and no vehicles commercial or otherwise allowed tire chains. Here in Alberta, oh yes they allow tire chains on the highways as every so often we get a condition where trucks have to throw them on to get up the various river hills and in fact studded tires are allowed year around although hardly anyone would do that anyway. Sorry for my long posts, I am bad for that !.

@@equilateralsquare no problem thanks for watching!

@@SteveCallsen i feel better too. Without being too political i totally agree

Im a bit disappointed in the hydraulic lifter engines. Their failure rate is pretty bad. With this new design you would think they modified the engine to be reliable with hydraulic lifters. If they did that, that huge issue will likely be avoided. Id be confident in being concerned with a 24 if you are planning to keep it outside of powertrain warranty. But im somewhat confident they took the issue seriously and addressed it with this entirely re designed version. I wouldnt really worry about glow plugs on the 25. I see that as an upgrade especially if you arent deleting. The egr really cakes up the grid heater after about 60-80k miles. Now i would always caution against a first model year. Lots of bugs get worked out. But at the same time i couldnt confidently tell you the 24 is a better bet. If it was me, and the cummins was the truck i wanted, id give a 2025 a shot and be open minded to first year problems that need to be warrantied.

Thanks for the info!! I appreciate it!! I have a 23 f350 with the 7.3 right now for a work truck, but just all the computer crap, the 10 speed transmission & so & so on are just not working out very well for me, I like the 7.3 motor very well, but because of all the other stuff, it's just not working out, I'm to the point of not liking the truck for what I need it for. Test drove a ram the other day with the Cummins & I felt like I was in a work truck, not a computer on wheels!!!! I swore I would never get another diesel cause of all the emission stuff, but I'm seriously thinking about trying one again. Once again, thanks for your input!!!​@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4

@@AllAmericanAutomotive worth a try thank you so much for the recommendation!

​@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 no problem

​@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 for the shifter issue... Zip ties and hose clamps are your friend. Haha. Looks ugly but seems to be the only way to get them to stay long term

@ i took it for a long drive but it needs to be done right. Those bushings are so janky. Why its not bolted to the shifter arm i dont know

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 terrible design I agree. Especially if any snow and ice get on it and make it harder to shift.

6.7 engine itself weighs about double the 7.3. 7.3 is 580 and the 6.7 is like 1100 wet. But the 6.7 has a dpf and secondary cooling system (intercooler). So there is some extra weight going on. Its interesting having such a substantial truck, with a not gutless gas engine and none of that extra weight. Its pretty impressive!

Its a banks datamonster. Its left over from my 2019 6.7. I actually have it off right now. I need to update it and see if i can get more information. Basically none of the data points currently show any data. Id like to see intake air temp, oil pressure, oil temp, water temp, timing advance and afr if i could get it. But literally none of those work. I need to look into that. Its part if the derringer system for the 6.7 diesel and for that it worked amazing. Im currently not getting alot of value from it. Ill see if i can get it back on line and get some data from it

@@seajan808 yup easy peasy. Thats some expensive fuel. Iv never made it to Hawaii. Like everyone id like to see pearl harbor and your beaches. To having a fishing boat there ought to be interesting. What do you go out for?

We go for mostly yellowfin tuna , callled Ahi here . Also mahi mahi And Ono which is known as wahoo . Also bottom fish for snappers . Rough ocean here for the most part .

@ sounds amazing!

@@laszlovass7326 that would be sweet but you would be hard pressed to “need” 600. Obviously more the better but it is really good as is. I dont love the oil pump either but thank the epa. Im amazed thet are even allowed to make something this good. Modern port injection, power and torque that make a 460 seam lame plus crazy fuel economy. I love it

@@darriusmorris6980 on my video? I didnt see anyone talk like that in the comments. If i missed it my bad. Always so much drama. I like both my 6.7 and my 7.3. I love diesels, i own two cummins trucks and my dad also owns a cummins. But my 7.3 was the right truck at the right time and its been a huge asset. Besides that i like it

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 I most definitely agree. I’ve watched a couple of other videos regarding a gas truck over a diesel. The comments are always against any gas owners so I figured I’d check out these comments also. I love them all as long as they get the job done. 🫡

@ i try to be very positive and practical. It tends to not get feathers ruffled. But people who are seriously interested in gas content deserve quality experience and advice.