🆕New Kubota L3302 \ L3902 Series Review and Upgrades
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- The standard L-series from Kubota is the #1 selling compact tractor in the United States. Kubota has some impressive updates in the new Kubota L3302 and L3902. Neil explores the new tractors and explains what type of changes you can expect.
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LEDs in my headlights sweet, the back of my bucket is gonna look awsome!
Spot on, but you wouldn't believe how many people complained about the halogens. It's 2022 and all.
HAHA, yep, head lights on a tractor with a loader are 100% useless, gotta have lights mounted on the ROPS in order to get any sort of visibility when running a loader at night, otherwise like you say the back of the loader bucket looks great, but can't see what I just ran over in the yard LOL.
those brush guards fit the 01 series ?
No
"The most popular compact tractor..... ...... ...... in the world." - Jeremy Clarkson
Neil, that was an awesome review and covered some things that others haven't in their review of this new model. I like the backward compatibility of some items. Glad to see the RHS grab bar comes stock now....I've bought 3 of them for different L-series over the years. My 2017 L3901 is serving us well at Piney Grove, but I'd definitely consider a L3902 if I was in the market right now.
I finally had my L3302 delivered last week! Really nice tractor
Great update Neil! Thank you for doing it!!
Great video Neil, you have sold me on this tractor been researching and researching I’ve learned more from your videos than any dealership I’ve visited. If I’d just had your discount code would be great LoL picking up an package deal first thing Monday man I’m excited thanks again
Ordered mine ( L3902) yesterday. My first time on a tractor since the 50s.
I have blackberries and sweet gum saplings that are about to get rudely managed.🖒
Thank you for making this video. I learned a lot from you. I am purchasing my very first tractor this month and you showed me some things that I definitely need to make sure mine is equipped with.
Man thats Nice, I have a L3901 purchased new in April of 2018.i love mine, love the upgrades to the L3902. Good job Kubota.
Love that front guard… wish I had one … specially since I ran a branch through the grille last week…. Probably be another few years before we get them in Western Australia… Love your work.
You going to talk about the couple of small changes on the LA526 loader? Great video Neil.
Neil, I know there will be viewers who scoff at the idea of having the tractor "stylized".
However, at my age, and with what seems like a daily increase in the number of wrinkles and sags on this tractor operator, I am all in for anything that increases "style"!🤣🤣🤣
Great review as always! 👍
Looking forward to the L4702.
4802 now
Great videos Neil, nice improvement’s can the PTO button be installed on a B2650 year 2020 I got the last tractor from my dealer, before the LX 2610 showed up.
Mine gets here this week! 🤟🏼
More light always = better. I never seem to have enough daylight to get everything done. If you don’t have a ton of trees your driving thru I recommend a light bar on the ROPS. I use mine all the time. Even added a 2nd 1 pointed to the rear. It’s high enough to point light over the bucket.
Kubota has hit a home run with the updates on this ‘02 Series! Neil, do you know if Kubota will be offering a factory brush guard for the Grand L series (L4060 in my case) anytime soon? The one you showed for the 3902 looks great!
Another great video Neil! What is part # for new factory grill guard insert?
Can’t wait to see these same updates to the L2501 and L4701
The rubber on the footrest👍🏻👍🏻. Those areas look bad after little use. About time. Paint wears right off.
I just purchased a 3902! Thank you for your videos. I can't seem to find that brush guard anywhere. I'll take a link if you have one. Thanks!
Some of the upgrades were coming out on covid area 01 series machines once parts got scarce. My 3901 came with a suspension seat and upgraded fuel filter last year
Nice looking new machine.
Thanks Mr Neil.. what about the loader changes..?
Great video Neil ! I really like all the improvements and available upgrades. Is there an upgrade for a 3 point hitch control at the rear of the tractor? It's often really convenient to be able to raise and lower the 3 point hitch from the rear when attaching implements. Thanks for another great video my friend.
Awesome Thank you Sir!!
Another great video Neil. I have a L3901. I’m wondering can you swap out to the new hood, and the fuel filter?
Probably
question - can you slow the lift and lowering of the bucket hydraulics - mine goes down very fast sometimes making the tractor teeter when the load is heavy (even with counter wt)
Hey Neil Messick, do you have a part number for the arm rest kit for the new L02 series tractor?
I also note the right side grab handle is installed… my 2022 3901 doesnt have one…
If you would like to add it on your L3901. See below.
www.messicks.com/part/t1060-29470/assy-grip-rh-see-notes
Neil, Thanks for the update on the new model.
I'm curious about the new grille guard. Are they available for any other models yet ? Like maybe the LX series ?
Not yet, however I've heard that this one is a very close fit to the LX. We had someone fit one up with only minor modifications.
@@MessicksEquip Hi, would you have part number for the grill guard by chance? Thanks
Can we get a part # or at least partial one so I can order it? Afraid of call and just say “grill guard” they’re going to try to sell me the actual grill guard…
Kubota Australia sells the L3800. It will be interesting to see if its updated like the L3901 has been.
Very nice!!!
Can you get the grill guards for a grand 4060
Greetings from Wisconsin! I see you left out another upgrade, the right hand fender handle. So stupid they didn't come standard before.
About time, I purchased another brand because of that set up. As soon as I test drove one with the brake pedals behind the dreaded treadle pedal, many other features lacking, I found on other comparable tractors that fit the bill for a experienced tractor operator.
Just wondered what you ended up with (currently shopping).
I’m hoping to get a 3902 in the near future. The price difference between the 01 & 02 is pretty significant 😩
You added the exhaust diffuser to your LX? Details, please? Also, any chance the factory brush guard also fits the LX?
the diffuser on my LX is custom. I'm told the L-02 brush guard is a very close fit for the LX. I'll try it and see if I can make a video on it.
I love the wing guards, but do they get in the way when you open the hood to service? Also, do they make the wing guards yet for the Grand L?
You tilt the whole assembly forward
It would be good if filled tire data for all the 2,700 pound Kubota Ls were added to Messick's Tire Loading data table.
How about a video on new tractor seat options. Replacement Kubota seats are costly!
Looks nice, although I would be truly disappointed with a 3rd function that you had to zip tie hoses to the loader frame. Can't believe they don't hard pipe them.
Only the OEM kubota kits. It's surprisingly uncommon to find hard lines.
Great video. I am not sure how I feel about the transition to electronic PTO controls. I prefer mechanical levers to switches on equipment like tractors.
:-), this is how it goes. One person wants steering brakes, the next one complains about the things that took to get there.
Can the upgraded fuel filter work on L3301? Or the seat? Defuser? LEDs? Did the list price increase? Got the last year of 01 series Lots of cool upgrades in the 02 mahalo great video 🤙
Great questions!
I really LOVE Messicks, and their videos, but do wish they answered more questions here.
I see them all, if I am not responding it's usually because I don't know the answer.
I suspect the exhaust diffuser is a carry over from the automotive industry and is to help cool the exhaust off during regen. During a regen cycle extra fuel is added to get the exhaust hot enough to burn the soot out of the exhaust system and could easily start a fire. By drawing in cool air (venturi effect) the air temperature coming out is substantially lowered.
I like the video but sway bars for the 3 point with a quick hitch seem redundant. One or the other. And as far as "the most deluxe 3 point" I would have to argue that a tractor with a hydraulic top link and tilt would be the most deluxe. Just sayin'
Just purchased some floor mats for my L2501. What video has the installation?
you got lucky. Its not published because Kubota does not have any inventory of the parts. Its very easy to put on, line it up and pull the rubber nubs though the floor pan.
Just bought a L2501 with the new LA526 loader but it doesn’t have that brush guard. Do you know what the part number on it is? Would love to add it. Great video as always
L2259. We have them in stock, not setup to buy online. 877-260-3528
@@MessicksEquip Neil will that new brush guard kit fit my L2501 with the LA525 loader? thanks
No, grill guard is different.
Do you have a link to the video showing the floor mat upgrade for older L series?
Coming as soon as stock is available. Parts are currently back ordered.
Good video Neil I have a 2021 L4060 do they make a brush guard for this tractor if so can you send me link to buy and have them shipped THANK YOU
No brush guard yet.
You missed the switch that my knee hits got moved !
I hit that freaking thing all the time!
Could you tell me if the landpride third function kit is the same part number for la526 and the la525? This would be used on a 2022 l2501 with the la526 loader
Thanks
Yes
Since the brakes changed sides, what happened to the clutch pedal? No longer present/required?
removed. No longer needed.
good. It was totally pointless on the HST models
Is the exhaust defuser more for the high regeneration temps of the reburn.
Yea regen
Neil, what is the part number for the floor mats?
I have a video coming on the floor mats, but have it held back waiting for them to come back in stock.
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The grill guard should come with the purchase of a new tractor my opinion
I still prefer a clutch on the PTO. I like to slowly start up implements like a mower or chipper to make sure there aren’t any issues. Otherwise, nice job Kubota!
Since he didn’t mention any change, I’ll bet it still has a clutch for the PTO (and engaging the four wheel drive) just like the hydrostatic 3901 has.
It does not have a clutch. That is how they move the brakes.
@@MessicksEquip hence my comment. I prefer my L3301 clutch for the PTO rather than moving the brake.
@@stephengmeiner3264you still have a clutch on the manual
@@wizard_of_poz4413 I sold my L3301 about two years ago. Now I have a Kubota excavator. I still follow tractors, however. Admittedly, I haven’t used a PTO without a clutch and I’m sure it must work, but I still think there’s a benefit to be able to ease into all of that power.
Is there any benefits to the PTO knob VS the older lever style like on the BX series as far as is one easier on the tractor/longer life than the other?
Six of one, half dozen of the other. You can make the argument that the electronic knob is more complicated, and involves wires. But taking the clutch away from most operators will add reliability.
@@MessicksEquip Ok thanks. I didn't know if the operation with the knob changed how the actual PTO internal engagement worked or not, guess my original question was pretty vague HAHA!!! Thank you. I have no issue with the manual lever on my BX2680, but there's no clutch to physically operate, it is a hydraulically engaged clutch setup if I recall. Should provide decades of problem free operation I hope.
I just bought a 3902 ….like the new revisions! Where do I find the grill guard? I looked through your website and the search doesn’t even list a 3902.
messicks.com/part/L2259/brush-guard-insert-for-la526-loaders
@@MessicksEquip thank you!
I was looking at an L2502 that showed up locally. Seems to have all the same improvements except I noticed it does not have the exhaust diffuser. Just curious are those sold anywhere? I kind of remember another video where maybe you put one on an LX?
I have one on my LX. L2502 has a totally different engine setup, probably wouldn't have the same need or effect.
Neil will the new grill guard and wings fit my L3901?
The brush guard does not, you need to replace the entire grill guard for it to work.
Neil, can you tell us more about those tires? Looks like a less aggressive ag tread better for lawns maybe? Who makes them?
ruclips.net/user/MessicksEquipsearch?query=R14
@@MessicksEquip I see a list of recent videos, etc. but no info on the tires or related items, did I miss it?
Link did not work for some reason, if you just search our channel for r14 I've done several videos.
Long overdue to have the brakes moved!!!
will this new grill guard and the exhaust defuse fit my LX 2610 ?
We did have someone fit the guard to the LX with some minor modifications. It does not fit the L-01 tractors.
Looks like a really nice tractor Neal. I have a 3301L that I purchased new five years ago after I retired and plan to have it for a long time to come. One thing I also noticed on the new L Series you were showing is that they now have a grab handle on the right side. Definitely an improvement! Cheers!
you never did say the difference in the LA525 and LA526 loader . i just bought a new 2022 l2501 and it has a LA2506 loader, i was just wondering the difference.
What’s the part# number for the floor mats? I’d love to get a set for my L2501 HST.
They're in the video description.
Beautiful tractor
Hi Neil, do you know if the optional armrest kit for the new 3302 will work on a 2022 l2501? If not are there any options for an armrest for the 2501?
Thanks
I'm at home and can't check, but I don't think that seat has the nuts embedded in the back. There are options, but they use coarse screws that try and hold in the plastic.
@@MessicksEquip thanks, there are no drill holes on the back and no dimples of any kind on the sides. I’ve looked in your parts site but couldn’t find any kits for the 2501. Also was not able to find the optional armrest kit for the new 3302. Thanks again
Buyer beware; the 3 point quick hitch attachment is not compatible with many attachments unless they are made by land pride. Only one attachment of mine works with it-the bush hog.
I've covered this extensively in videos, it's not Land pride. It's companies that choose to follow the ANSI standard.
Can you do video on uneven front end loader? I'm at 50hrs, and had for about 2 years. I noticed around 35 hours, not sure if it was factory or misuse. I do tend to abuse all my tools. Is there a fix?
This is hard to do a video about because there's a lot of reasons and places that this can happen. If you didn't notice it until 35 hours in, more than likely something was bent, most often in the quick coupler or bucket edge.
Will the new front brush guard and side brush wings fit on the L2501 grill guard?
No.
This is kind off an of the wall question for you. Given that you don't use a mid-mount mower on your LX3310, if the L3302 were available when you purchased your LX3310, would you have purchased the L3302 instead?
That's a really good question. Probably not. LX is slightly smaller frame, physically lighter, and more comfortable. If I was after the most capable tractor, yes.
Thank you for your answer. I was surprised to see just how much heavier the L3302 was than the LX3310. I did a quick comparison of the prices on similarly equipped 33 hp models. Very similarly priced for basic models. I do like the idea of being able to get a factory cab on the LX though.
Can you retro fit the new fuel filter on an L3901?
Not sure.
Aloha Neil! Those amber switches… (you showed the one for off tractor PTO). My L4701 “lost” the white markings on them about a month after I bought it. So, just unmarked amber buttons now. I know they relate to regen, but the way I use the tractor it’s never gone into regen (300 hours). I know I can figure them out from the operator’s manual, but I’m not likely to have it with me (the Kubota app is no good because no wifi or cell signal in the lower part of the property). All the previous is to hopefully head off the read the manual comments I’m sure are still coming… anyway: Is there a decal kit or some such to “re-mark” those buttons? Kinda bizarre they wouldn’t hold their markings to begin with…
That's a problem I've not run into yet. Really, you don't need those buttons if everything's functioning properly.
@@MessicksEquip I would like to know what they are without digging out the manual though. Seems a QC issue for Kubota. I’m sure you don’t have the UV issues we have here, but still tractors ARE meant to be used outdoors…
A sharpie maybe? Seems kind of stupid with a cheap paint decal right on the button itself knowing full well those are going to come off in a short period of time with use, not even pushing them, but things rubbing against them as you get on and off the tractor, especially if you are wearing gloves, jackets, etc.
Do they offer mats for the DT series
Nevermind I see it In comments
So basically a larger and better fuel filter and a better PTO switch. Floor mats and grill guards can be bought on facebook.
Actually, it isn't just a better PTO switch. On the L3901, the user had to use the clutch to engage the PTO. On the new L3902, the PTO can be engaged without the need to depress the clutch.
Hope that helps.
@@JoeGalanteTribute Thank you.
The biggest change seems to be removing the clutch pedal and placing the brake pedals on the left side of the operator platform.
Neil left out the most important improvement of all and that's the HST transmission. The new L02 series are significantly more quiet then the 01's.
Is that the same brush guard as the LX series? It looks similar and wonder if that factory bolt on brush guard will fit my LX
The brush guard does not fit, but stay tuned.
@@MessicksEquip thanks for the heads up
Is there a mid PTO option a mid mount mower available for these?
If you look at the Kubota site, there is no mention of a mid-mount mower or a front snowblower, so I would think that a mid-PTO either isn't available or would be VERY costly to add. I believe that is the reasoning behind the LX models.
@@JoeGalanteTribute Thank you for the information. I currently own an LX and the thought of a slightly larger frame size with mid pto and a mid mount mower option was interesting.
@@JoeGalanteTribute mid mount pto not available. Would have to move to Grand L or LX series
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Does the L3902 come with a third function switch or is that optional?
3rd functions are optional.
I don't know much about models other than the L4701, but my 2020 L4701 has the brakes on the left and go pedal on the right, so that was an early adoption. It also came with sway bars instead of turnbuckles (at least I don't think I paid extra for those). Floor mats and the grill guard would be nice. Kubota needs to get their act together with the ROPS bar. Having to remove the safety clip AND unscrew the lock pins to fold the ROPS is idiotic. No one else does that. Makes it a real PITA to drop it to get into the garage. Fortunately I don't have to do that very often, but it irks me everytime I do.
One thing I wish Land Pride would take a clue from SpeeCo on is not requiring cat 3 adapter bushings for the QH15. Those are $40 a set, and they add up quick.
Does the 3302 come standard with rear remotes?
No, virtually never used on this size tractor.
Niel, do you have any reason or info on why we can't get front 3pt hitches and pros here in the us? While UK has them on compacts almost standard equipment. Part of my idea is implement monopoly..... They rather sell you a completely different snowblower that costs 3x the 3pt mouth one...... But then........ You don't see front mouth tillers so .....errr
UK has them on utility tractors, I believe there they are still unusual on smaller machines. We can get front 3pt's for lots of machines, but they are very, very expensive. Economic issue, probably safety concerns, and customer service worries from all the things you could do wrong.
All nice but the FEL control not on the right fender.
Need to move to the deluxe LX tractor for that.
The loader valve is a very good unit but is a 1980's placement configuration. The right side acces-egress is just about impossible & unsafe ,( modified mine). DEFINITELY needs an upgrade ,not a light-weight LX excuse.
@donaldstrishock3923 it's nice tho because I was able to bolt this loader onto my 3400 with no modifications
Does this one have dpf and def? Or just dpf.
Dpf the only, no def.
Maybe tell Kubota to put a fuel filter like that on the BX series, and offer it as an add-on non-warranty voiding part for those of us who already have a BX.
I can't see a warranty issue ever arising from adding a fuel filter.
@@MessicksEquip That's good to know. I've seen a few people use I think the L-Series Kubota fuel filter and fabricate a mount to work on their Kubota BX series tractors, been thinking of doing that with mine, the fuel filter under the tractor is a bit of a pain to deal with, and would have made much more sense if they would have just used that same L-Series filter unit on all their machines, those cheap lawnmower style filters they use on the BX is pretty pathetic I think...Having that clear filter unit that you can easily see and keep an eye on would make a lot more sense and being easier to get to would be really nice. I have a skid plate on my BX2680 so not having to remove it to get to the fuel filter would be nice, not that I need to get to it often, it would just be a better location up by the engine.
Does the 2501 is also getting ans upgrade?
For 2023, yes.
As popular the 3rd function is why don't manufactures make it possible to just add another valve body to the loader valve so there is 3 spools one that is solenoid controlled for the 3rd function? I would think it would make a cleaner setup.
I'm wondering what point that might start happening too. The companies that supply the valve bodies I don't believe make one like you're describing.
@@MessicksEquip on my New Holland TC29d the rear remote valves are piggy backed together so you can have one or two remotes they just need to make a loader valve like that that it is segmented so more spools can be added if needed. I am sure it is a cast savings to have the loader valve as a one piece casting.
Nice upgrades. Unfortunetely thousands already chose the comfort and feature rich, better stats, and way less costly Kioti CKSE series like I did. A year or so into it, I now know why I shouldn't have. We would like to see yoiu post a video comparing the L33/3902 vs the CK35/4010SE series. Hoping you can convience the thousands more who are about to make the same mistake as I did.
Where are you from? Or, are you comfortable with a camera that we could send some video clips back and forth and make something together?
Mid-Coast Maine
I too was shopping between kubota and kioti but went with kubota. What about your kioti makes you regret buying it?
Why do u regret your choice ?
Duuuuude kioti literally should not be allowed to make any equipment. They put out the absolute most bottom of the barrel garbage that falls to pieces in no time. On top of that, their service dept will lie in order to screw over customers on warranty claims and hope you don't feel like suing
What is the difference in price between the 33 and the 39? Thanks
Bigger engine, that's it.
why not run the exhaust pipe back to the rear of the tractor
I don’t think any tractor has the exhaust coming out the back. It would not be nice to be connecting an implement to the three point if the exhaust was there.
@@kdegraa true. That's why you shut it off and connect your three-point hitch.
when did the L series remove the mid PTO?
None of them have it on the standard L since the 3400 at least
Kubota needs to work on filling dealer orders instead of coming out with a new model. I waited 9 months for my L3560 and still no idea when the loader will come in.
I ordered an L4060 last October from the closest dealer to me. After 8 months of misleading or no updates I gave up. I still need a tractor but will have to find a dealer who actually wants to sell one. I have 20 acres of property and a long list of work to do.
@@mmusser62 Ordered mine in August, Received June without loader. Dealer has no idea when loader will be in. Only tractors they have on the lot are sold and waiting for loaders.
Grape farmer ordered seven tractors last year and got five in.
This is unfortunately typical, driven by a global shortage on hydraulic cylinders. Tractor inventory is starting to come back, but implements remain a problem.
@@MessicksEquip I sure don't blame my dealer, and not much blame on Kubota. It is what it is.
3302 have a mid pto ?
No, see LX series for mid pto.
How much does a L3902 cost?
It is getting everything that doesn't go with a cab? If you want a cab- buy an LX sort of thing?
Didn't mention L3600gst, which I am very fond of
Is that an old body tractor
@@wizard_of_poz4413 1999
@johnwhite4795 yea I guess that's before the contemporary style which started with the 3400 like I have, funny thing is after like 20 years they're still 90% the same tractor
I'D LIKE TO GET AN L-SERIES KUBOTA TRACTOR. HOWEVER, IT'S WAY TOO SLOW FOR MY LIKING. IS THERE A WAY OF PUMPING UP THE SPEED TO A COMFORTABLE 30MPH FOR ROAD DRIVING TO MINIMIZE ROAD RAGE FROM DRIVERS FOLLOWING BEHIND THE TRACTOR?
That may seem like a good idea, but you don't want it. A small tractor like this would be extremely dangerous at that speed.
They don't really have the horsepower
Can I put a BH85 backhoe on the 3902?
Those are total Junk. Avoid at all costs.
@@MessicksEquip I only ask cause we had a bh100 on our l5030 back in 06.. seemed to work well. Is the bh77 the biggest that can go on the L3902?
Yes.