Have to agree with you on personal protection. It's amazing how much overspray is still present even in a spray booth at a shop. Most home painter/hobbyist don't have the financial resources as the professionals. However, IMHO, the home painter/hobbyist has to be more creative in personal protection against autobody chemicals. Using a lower CFM and PSI spray gun can reduce the amount of overspray. I've watched several videos from Chris on Garage Noise that used affordable HVLP guns that reduced overspray significantly. Using a 5 or 6 stage turbine system is another way to reduce overspray. Jake Lesada has shown that lowering the PSI on a turbine system produces minimal overspray and gives professional results. There are other affordable positive air flow systems available to the home painter/hobbyist - turbines and systems that filter the air from your compressor from oil and water contaminants, utilizing activated charcoal filters that attached to your waist. Just remember - if you lose it - your never getting it back. Your health is priceless.
Aside from health the comfort of having your face unrestricted and a breeze inside the face is wonderful on hot days compared to a standard respirator.
Kandy Man. Very informative video. The PPE you wear in the booth to protect your health is very important. The 3M TR800 while very expensive a necessary tool in your arsenal. Stay safe and continue bring us great content. Enjoy your evening in sunny Florida dude.
Great video Kandy Man you can't be to carful with having good PPE, as you mentioned all the different materials we use can be very dangerous and the overspray that's in the air can be absorbed through the eyes so I always use a full facemask👌👍John UK
Great review! I myself have a serious case of chemical sensitivity and cannot express enough the importance of proper protection. I cannot be exposed to any type of chemical without experiencing some type of reaction. I had to completely remove myself from the auto body/collision industry 9 years ago and still experience the effects when exposed to something as simple as a plugin air freshener. The condition has literally cost me over $500k in lost wages over the last 9 years. Finding a job was impossible because there are airborne chemicals everywhere.
I like the Sata air star C half mask, simply because I hate the glare from the Vission full hood. Can’t stand the bulk of the 3M. However, I understand that eye protection is just important when spraying. That said, I choose Sata Vission.
Absolutely beautiful paint job my friend! Just one or two questions. Would you think this unit that you have would be good to work with and prevent from inhaling toxic and dangerous chemicals such as Toluene, Acetone and Methyl Ethyl and Ketone? Or would the 800 HIK would be a better choice as far as preventing the chemicals from being inhaled in or getting in. Thank you!
Watching recent vids, I wondered where the backpack was :) I just purchased the full face mask like you showed, in fact used it yesterday for the first time, worked a treat and using the visor guard peel off. Looked at Versaflo TR800, but if you can find one here in Oz, they are well over $2500 (AUD). Found a cheaper battery powered air fed hood with organic vapour filters from my paint supplier last week, but has inbuilt battery that means it's offline when it needs charging. Still, at AUD$350 it is probably something I'll get too, and use the regular one as a back up.
Am getting ready to get one of these. I am having issues now with cerakote even with respirators causing my lungs to fill up with fluid and me hacking up clear gel all night. Im tired of it
I have 5 or 6 batteries at my work. Some are so old they don’t work but say fully charged. Mine got crazy amount of overspray on it doing the inside of boats so I painted my hood.. how long does your filter last? Mine last two days maybe.. 1 or 2 boats on I need a new filter.
Can the 3M 6001 organic vapor cartridge on a full-face mask keep me safe (isocyanates...)? I plan on spraying only occasionally (DIY) in my garage with a LVLP gun. I know health is priceless but cannot afford the TR800. Also, I noticed that many other painters on RUclips don't seem to wear eye protection. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks again for your great work!
Brilliant 👏 video 📹 been a welder for over 30 years you need to protect your lungs 🫁 and body been on some jobs there don't even supply PPE equipment you need to protect your self 2k paint the worse 😀
Can’t stress a respirator enough! Stupid me went for years trimming out parts and doing bodywork without anything ! Lungs are screwed now! Does this unit have tearoffs on the face or could i use denatured alcohol to clean overspray off? Also has anyone used it for sanding filler and etc? Had cataract surgery recently and want to keep out the dust from getting in my eyes.
So I was looking around being on a budget... I found that the TR600 can handle organic vapors if you use the right cartridge but the problem is that it is not explosion proof so if you are working with mists that could be ignited by your PaPr the tr600 does not mention that it is made for this but the TR800 info does.. there is another video about it here on youtube that specificly mentions the TR800's ability to be safely used in environments that have explosive type mists in the air and for mining... the tr6530n cartridge filter is the same cartidege for organic vapors that is used in both units... that filter runs at over $500 dollars... so TR600 smaller battery and not stated as being suited for working in environments where solvent mists can become ignited by the unit itself.... TR800 bigger battery and suitable for working in envromnet where the unit could ignite the solvent mists and vapors that are in the air... and the initial price difference is not that much.
I got a very important question '! I just purchased the same model mask & when I use the mask I can smell paint thru the mask ; sealer, waterbase, & clear coat!! Is that normal, !!
The TR-600 and the TR-800 are nearly identical. The biggest difference between them is that the 800 is “intrinsically safe” so it doesn’t cause an explosion. The 600 isn’t guaranteed to not cause a spark somewhere that an explosive gas/vapor might be. Because of this, I would not recommend the 600 for kind of painting you do. The filters they use are the same. The TR-300 is a very basic model and is good for healthcare. There is only one filter for it. For my work, either the 300 or 600 models will work quite well, as I primarily only need a high-efficiency filter.
@@kandyman5315 yeah I need to take better care of myself. Planning on leaving that place anyways. Cars are my dream. Painting is my passion. Just stuck at the moment.
Have to agree with you on personal protection. It's amazing how much overspray is still present even in a spray booth at a shop. Most home painter/hobbyist don't have the financial resources as the professionals. However, IMHO, the home painter/hobbyist has to be more creative in personal protection against autobody chemicals. Using a lower CFM and PSI spray gun can reduce the amount of overspray. I've watched several videos from Chris on Garage Noise that used affordable HVLP guns that reduced overspray significantly. Using a 5 or 6 stage turbine system is another way to reduce overspray. Jake Lesada has shown that lowering the PSI on a turbine system produces minimal overspray and gives professional results. There are other affordable positive air flow systems available to the home painter/hobbyist - turbines and systems that filter the air from your compressor from oil and water contaminants, utilizing activated charcoal filters that attached to your waist. Just remember - if you lose it - your never getting it back. Your health is priceless.
Aside from health the comfort of having your face unrestricted and a breeze inside the face is wonderful on hot days compared to a standard respirator.
3m has a foam pre filter for it also. Stops some of the heavy overspray.
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Wondered about that, glad they had the forethought to have a pre filter to keep the main organic filter clean.
Great Video, so many popular RUclipsrs barely wear masks, such a great example. Well done. Favourite paint channel keep up the fantastic work
Thanks, will do!
You are so right health is a priority great advice.
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Kandy Man. Very informative video. The PPE you wear in the booth to protect your health is very important. The 3M TR800 while very expensive a necessary tool in your arsenal. Stay safe and continue bring us great content. Enjoy your evening in sunny Florida dude.
So few people ever talk about this. Most use the bare minimum protection or nothing at all.
Just got a tr 600 setup. I am just a hobbyist now but worked in a shop for 20 years. Cant wait to use it. Pricey but so worth it.
Absolutely
I literally had my 3m rep come by today and drop off a tr800 for test today. Thanks for the info 🙏
Great video Kandy Man you can't be to carful with having good PPE, as you mentioned all the different materials we use can be very dangerous and the overspray that's in the air can be absorbed through the eyes so I always use a full facemask👌👍John UK
Great review! I myself have a serious case of chemical sensitivity and cannot express enough the importance of proper protection. I cannot be exposed to any type of chemical without experiencing some type of reaction. I had to completely remove myself from the auto body/collision industry 9 years ago and still experience the effects when exposed to something as simple as a plugin air freshener. The condition has literally cost me over $500k in lost wages over the last 9 years. Finding a job was impossible because there are airborne chemicals everywhere.
Sorry to hear that. But thanks for the insight
I have the sundstrom sr500 - I would not go back to a regular respirator. It also works with the arcone welding helmet which is a bonus.
I like the Sata air star C half mask, simply because I hate the glare from the Vission full hood. Can’t stand the bulk of the 3M. However, I understand that eye protection is just important when spraying. That said, I choose Sata Vission.
I've been thinking about this since one of your last videos. I have a Hobbyair setup but the 3/4" hose sucks to drag around so i need to upgrade.
Absolutely beautiful paint job my friend! Just one or two questions. Would you think this unit that you have would be good to work with and prevent from inhaling toxic and dangerous chemicals such as Toluene, Acetone and Methyl Ethyl and Ketone? Or would the 800 HIK would be a better choice as far as preventing the chemicals from being inhaled in or getting in. Thank you!
Thanks you. it is suitable for painting. Check Check with 3m company and see there suitable products it is good for
Use the TR 600 bro no complaints from me 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Watching recent vids, I wondered where the backpack was :)
I just purchased the full face mask like you showed, in fact used it yesterday for the first time, worked a treat and using the visor guard peel off.
Looked at Versaflo TR800, but if you can find one here in Oz, they are well over $2500 (AUD).
Found a cheaper battery powered air fed hood with organic vapour filters from my paint supplier last week, but has inbuilt battery that means it's offline when it needs charging.
Still, at AUD$350 it is probably something I'll get too, and use the regular one as a back up.
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Am getting ready to get one of these. I am having issues now with cerakote even with respirators causing my lungs to fill up with fluid and me hacking up clear gel all night. Im tired of it
Get one money well spent.
I have 5 or 6 batteries at my work. Some are so old they don’t work but say fully charged. Mine got crazy amount of overspray on it doing the inside of boats so I painted my hood.. how long does your filter last? Mine last two days maybe.. 1 or 2 boats on I need a new filter.
Kandy you’ve got a fordite goldmine on that table… just sayin 🤙🏻
Thank you very much for this video. Are those filters rated in hours? About how long do they last?
Depends on booth Flow and overspray but they last awhile
Can the 3M 6001 organic vapor cartridge on a full-face mask keep me safe (isocyanates...)? I plan on spraying only occasionally (DIY) in my garage with a LVLP gun. I know health is priceless but cannot afford the TR800. Also, I noticed that many other painters on RUclips don't seem to wear eye protection. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks again for your great work!
Don't want to give the wrong information check with the manufacturer of the product you are purchasing.
Brilliant 👏 video 📹 been a welder for over 30 years you need to protect your lungs 🫁 and body been on some jobs there don't even supply PPE equipment you need to protect your self 2k paint the worse 😀
Can’t stress a respirator enough!
Stupid me went for years trimming out parts and doing bodywork without anything !
Lungs are screwed now!
Does this unit have tearoffs on the face or could i use denatured alcohol to clean overspray off?
Also has anyone used it for sanding filler and etc?
Had cataract surgery recently and want to keep out the dust from getting in my eyes.
Yes peel offs👊
@@kandyman5315 👍
Thanks for the reply
Hello Kandy Man. Quick question to you. How do you clean filters? Do you use compressed air to blow particulates out of filter? Any suggestions?
They are replaced once full unit. Let's you know when to change
Do you use protection peel off films. Which ones? And do they come with the unit?
Yes it comes with it part number 70-0715-6216-2
I like the chemical resistant face covers I just use thinner to clean it. Lasts like 2 months doing boats. Cars probably 6 months..?
Where can they be found
Ive been reading that there is two filters in this system, inlet and outlet. Do you change both? And if so, do you know the part numbers?
I changed one, but I'm not sure about the part number. Sorry
So I was looking around being on a budget... I found that the TR600 can handle organic vapors if you use the right cartridge but the problem is that it is not explosion proof so if you are working with mists that could be ignited by your PaPr the tr600 does not mention that it is made for this but the TR800 info does.. there is another video about it here on youtube that specificly mentions the TR800's ability to be safely used in environments that have explosive type mists in the air and for mining... the tr6530n cartridge filter is the same cartidege for organic vapors that is used in both units... that filter runs at over $500 dollars... so TR600 smaller battery and not stated as being suited for working in environments where solvent mists can become ignited by the unit itself.... TR800 bigger battery and suitable for working in envromnet where the unit could ignite the solvent mists and vapors that are in the air... and the initial price difference is not that much.
Thanks for the information 👍
I have TR 800 what filter do you recommend for spray painting water based or shellac/ oil based????
Tr-6510N
I got a very important question '!
I just purchased the same model mask & when I use the mask I can smell paint thru the mask ; sealer, waterbase, & clear coat!! Is that normal, !!
Absolutely not
@@kandyman5315 I think I might have the wrong filter on ! Which is the correct filter part# for painting
@@davidfernandez7425 TR-6580ANZ
still looks like overspray can get pulled in from the back of the mask around top of your head. would be cool to see the fitment.
It is a positive pressure mask so it works great
@@kandyman5315 I see now the air enters towards the front and exits the back 👍
How often do you replace those filters?
Depends on your amount of spraying . Let's you know when to change it. I get about 3 good weeks out of it
@@kandyman5315 dang, I do about 3 rounds a day, spend around 6 hours in the booth per day. Those filters are a bit pricey does your shop cover them?
How long does a filter usually last?
Around 3 weeks for me spraying every day
I see a lot of people painting with no eye protection no paint suit today you would think as long as some of these guys been pain they would no butter
The TR-600 and the TR-800 are nearly identical. The biggest difference between them is that the 800 is “intrinsically safe” so it doesn’t cause an explosion. The 600 isn’t guaranteed to not cause a spark somewhere that an explosive gas/vapor might be. Because of this, I would not recommend the 600 for kind of painting you do. The filters they use are the same. The TR-300 is a very basic model and is good for healthcare. There is only one filter for it. For my work, either the 300 or 600 models will work quite well, as I primarily only need a high-efficiency filter.
I’m terrible about my health… I need to be better. Sometimes I just get in a hurry because I want to spend 15 hours in a day on a boat…
Becareful it's serious stuff
@@kandyman5315 yeah I need to take better care of myself. Planning on leaving that place anyways. Cars are my dream. Painting is my passion. Just stuck at the moment.
I’m sensitive to the isocyanates. Not fun!
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Beyond my price point
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Have you ever had a problem with seeing a reflection with this mask? I'm not sure if it's because I wear glasses.
I don't have a problem with it