Lightroom Classic vs Capture One, 2024 Update Battle

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @PhotoKitchen425
    @PhotoKitchen425  2 месяца назад +1

    A new year brings a new battle. Check out the 2025 face off between Capture One and Lightroom Classic:
    ruclips.net/video/hSIww_msQBI/видео.html

  • @yaeckerphotography
    @yaeckerphotography Год назад +10

    CapOne needs to lower its price to be more competitive. No geotagging either this is a must. When Adobe added the AI masking features I left CapOne and have not returned. The point color is a welcome addition although not as flexible as CapOne. And I agree all editing features should be available in masking mode.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад +1

      You are the first person I have met that requested Geotagging as a feature in CP1, but you are right, they need to add that as well. Thank you for watching.

    • @Paulruk
      @Paulruk Год назад

      I bought it on Black Friday for half the price. It’s a steal compared to Adobe pricing.

  • @StefanHillen
    @StefanHillen Год назад +7

    Thank you for the video. For me it would've been more useful to use the same images in both applications to see how well the masks working and how the end results differ in kind of sharpness and colors...

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching. I didn't want to get a super deep detail on those features, as I wanted to cover the differences in broad strokes, but I will take the advice and get something like that for you in the future. Hope you tune in.

  • @DPCPhotos
    @DPCPhotos 3 месяца назад +1

    Great summary! Will be great to hear what you think about the new C1 Beta and see if it over comes any of the gaps mentioned here (especially with the masking)

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  3 месяца назад +1

      I have been watching what CP1 has been putting out, but I generally stay away from Beta programs because I want to see what the public gets, and how it really works with out the old, "well it is still just a beta" reply.

    • @DPCPhotos
      @DPCPhotos 3 месяца назад

      Cool! This is a public beta, so features will be available at the end of the month. It looks like some of these gaps have been closed, so it will be interesting to get your take.

  • @ill4573
    @ill4573 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for the excellent summary.
    I love the ability to reduce the output size of an image in export and add my own recipe. Even better, export different sizes of the same image simultaneously avoiding going back and forth.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  2 месяца назад

      So happy to help and thank you for watching.

  • @stan3223
    @stan3223 9 месяцев назад +9

    The raw rendering is better in C1, especially in skin colors. With C1 I get good flesh tone easily, whereas in LR I go to the cmyk curves and adjust the colors.

  • @wildboybatko
    @wildboybatko 4 месяца назад

    Happy to see C1 updated the thing with the subject/background selection when you copy-paste settings from other photo.

  • @jimavery3211
    @jimavery3211 Год назад +12

    i switched back to lightroom classic after using capture one for a couple of years because of the ai masking. I miss the cop wireless tether and sessions and brightness slider, and now their ai selection is tempting me back. So thanks for this video. I think I'll just stick with lightroom for awhile since I pay for it anyway with my photoshop subscription. I can do wireless tethering with the sony imaging edge app but it takes some fiddling to get it going.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! I agree with you about the power of AI from Adobe. I think CP1 has caught up a bit, but we need to be able to combine masks to really make CP1 work well.

  • @sandrostudio
    @sandrostudio 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good video; I subscribed to your channel. However, while the AI masking in Lightroom Classic works very well in general and when creating a mask underneath a mask, the same can be achieved in capturing one, too. You need to create a new adjustment layer and do whatever you want by choosing one of the possibilities: linear-gradient, circular gradient, AI, etc. If you need one more re-touching, add another adjustment layer. The previous masks won't be affected, and the effect will add up. (although a good photo shouldn't need any -or almost any - post-editing, as we all know).
    I prefer to capture one for the workflow, the compact interface, which is easy to navigate, organizing photos, and the metadata editing panel (I don't do any tethering, being just an amateur photographer).

  • @artieshokin
    @artieshokin 3 месяца назад +1

    as I moved my whole library (70k pictures) capture one have forgot all the masks on adjustment layer. So every bit of cloning and healing has to be done ones again... horror. do somebody have any idea how to rectify the problem?

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  3 месяца назад

      So are you using a catalog or a session for CP1? And when you moved the images, did you also move that file, because that is where you mask information is stored.

  • @IlyesBouzid
    @IlyesBouzid Год назад +10

    Thanks for the comparison, agree C1 is still early release and will for sure get more functionalities later on. You can btw sync edit using AI mask on several images by saving it as a style and applying the style to the other images it will re-calculate the AI mask and apply the edits ...

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      Yes, I found out about styles and multiple image selection after the fact. I did a follow up video on this on why I jumped to that conclusion, but you are right about the styles, I really missed the mark on that. I will try better moving forward.

  • @rolandrickphotography
    @rolandrickphotography Год назад +1

    Man, I love you for this contribution. You really struck a chord with me. - At about 6:09, oh yes. I'm asking them since years to natively support .afphoto and get the same lame excuses since 7 or so years. No .gif, no .psb (at least at the last version I started to skipped C1 updates that was like so), many more formats missing. The only tool showing all files on the disk is Bridge, even if it does not generate previews for other formats such as .afphoto. At least Bridge is a DAM avoiding loss of other files in the folder and it needs no database (that has pros and cons). I subscribed 🙌

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад +1

      I think CP1 has a serious customer service issue. One thing I noticed in talking with them is that their initial response to any critical feedback is not, "oh thank you for pointing that out, that is interesting feedback", but rather, "you are not doing it right".
      Thank you subscribing!

    • @rolandrickphotography
      @rolandrickphotography Год назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 YT deletes my reply, I have no clue why. Sent you a message by Instagram

  • @grahamsmith7938
    @grahamsmith7938 Год назад +1

    I am maybe misunderstanding the problem, but you can use cmd+left click to select multiple images and then run the subject or background AI on those multiple images at the same time. And, as mentioned already you can combine this with a style to apply editing plus AI subject selection across multiple images.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад +1

      Thank you for the information. I will update the video.

    • @grahamsmith7938
      @grahamsmith7938 Год назад +1

      @@PhotoKitchen425 C1 seems to have a never ending list of things to discover 🙂

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      Good point @@grahamsmith7938 , but what is odd is that you can globally create a mask, but right after you make the mask, you can make any global adjustments to it. So you have three images selected, then Select Subject, and you get masks, But then you change the exposure, and it only happens to one image.

    • @grahamsmith7938
      @grahamsmith7938 Год назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 However, if you have three images selected and the "edit selected" icon active (so you edit all selected images) you can edit all the selected images with the speed editing keys. Speed edit keys have become one the best reasons to use C1 !

  • @GregButler-w2s
    @GregButler-w2s Год назад +1

    Smart Styles in Capture One allows you to batch edit as many people images as you want, correcting light and color balance in all kind of different lighting conditions. And you can, contrary to what you say, have a different mask in every layer.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      Thank you, I did a follow up video on how I was wrong about the masking feature, but I am still frustrated by the extra steps in CP1 to do batch editing compared to LRC. Not to mention the lack of masking combination in a single layer.

  • @carlosmarquez3859
    @carlosmarquez3859 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for keeping this review honest.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for watching. I try my best. It is funny how many people think I hate either program, and I really don't, I just want to point out the things I think need fixing.

  • @RodrigoAReyes95
    @RodrigoAReyes95 10 месяцев назад

    Tether in Lightroom I think is a problem on Mac overall, I have tested on a M1 Pro 14 inch MacBook Pro and a 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro with both Nikon and Canon and for the most part they won't work, but as soon as I try on a Windows Laptop the cameras connect right away.

  • @jkinze
    @jkinze Год назад

    With c1 subject mask both images need to be selected, (have edit all selected, I had to input on the customization quick tab), then click subject, and use the quick keybinds, it will apply to both images. Or you can fully edit one image with background + subject, then just create a preset style. If a group of images are very similar, I've cut down the time editing images by 80%. I do have a folder of my presets of Subject + background commands.

  • @icontentacademy
    @icontentacademy 10 месяцев назад

    What do you think about "Photo Grade"? Excellent video btw....

  • @Wojtekgl
    @Wojtekgl Год назад +3

    I'm just working with both, evaluating which one I'll stay with. I like the way C1 renders the RAWs (I'm Sony and Fuji user), default processing brings les noisy and more detailed outcome from C1. On the other hand, LR , together with Photoshop makes a good work and BTW good deal, compared to the cost of C1. AI denoising in LR works great...but stil the picture processing I find better in C1. The biggest downside of C1, for me as Mac user, is how slow it works compared to LR. Looks like C1 is not utilising correctly the potential of new Apple hardware, you can see it immediately playing with the sliders. LR is like light speed compared to C1. All in all, I don't know which one to choose for the future :)

  • @punkyhawthorn5245
    @punkyhawthorn5245 4 месяца назад

    Selective logic on the LR tethering and export dings. Those have been around for many moons. I’m also baffled by the lack of professional tethering support but the AI features are the way of the future and Adobe continues to enhance and roll out features that amaze me. I also love C1 for its color qualities which are wow. They are both great tools that continue to have room to grow.

  • @the_indrid_cold
    @the_indrid_cold 11 месяцев назад +2

    I've tried both apps in the past few days, and AI noise removing in Lightroom blows my mind, way better than Capture One in my opinion.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  10 месяцев назад

      The AI from Adobe is fantastic to be sure.

  • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
    @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 7 месяцев назад +4

    "In Capture One 16.3.4, you can copy unchanged Subject Mask and Background Mask Layers to other images, and Capture One will automatically re-calculate what the subject or background is."

  • @vanodyssey1659
    @vanodyssey1659 3 месяца назад

    Capture One's problem is its name, it sounds like a studio based photography application, not a powerful at home / studio based image editing software.
    I have just moved to Capture One due to Adobe's incessant use of rental economy! Bit of getting used to but it looks good!

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for watching. I have a few more videos on CP1 that might help you out as you move away from Adobe.

  • @aliriveraphotography
    @aliriveraphotography Год назад

    Thanks for this. Great info, always looking for LR alternatives.

  • @rainerzuehlke501
    @rainerzuehlke501 6 месяцев назад +1

    I use both Capture One Pro and Lightroom Classic, but for different use cases. Lightroom Classic is better suited for drone images, especially for individual images of 360x180° spherical panoramas (sky vs. ground masking and synchronizing adjustment settings for each mask). However, Capture One Pro is superior in almost all other use cases. In addition, the user experience with a fully customizable interface (modules) is much better.

  • @justusmartin5179
    @justusmartin5179 11 месяцев назад

    I'm shooting a Canon R3 and R5 and I'm so frustrated with the reliability of their tethering in lightroom (sometimes it works, sometimes it works for a while, sometimes not at all, sometimes the work around works and sometimes not even that. It practically requires a designated half-hour before the shoot feeling the pressure hoping that tethering will work and stay working all the way through the shoot). I'm trying to learn the library and sorting system on capture one simply to have a reliable solution for my corporate headshot work. I've wasted SO MUCH time trying to solve tethering on Lightroom. Get your act together Adobe!
    Ps, thank you for this video.

  • @NickBelt
    @NickBelt 7 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe it’s just me but the spot removal tool in Capture One is inferior to Light Room Classic

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  7 месяцев назад +1

      I think it has been greatly improved to be sure, but I agree, LRC still have the better tools.

    • @NickBelt
      @NickBelt 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@PhotoKitchen425 I gave and will continue to give Capture One a go but LRC + PS is still goat in my opinion. I do like Capture One sharpening and rendering on Nikon NEFs

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  7 месяцев назад +1

      For me CP1 is all about production, and if you need that level of production, it is totally worth it @@NickBelt . But many people don't need advanced tethering support, or high end export features, so LRC is a better app for many.

  • @iKIMshuffle
    @iKIMshuffle Год назад

    So, I’m hoping you or your followers can answer this. Why can’t I tether my camera?
    I’m using Capture One Pro and it keeps on crashing when I plug my camera in. I was able to tether with MacBook Pro M2 pro but when I downgraded to MacBook Pro M3 pro, my camera cannot even be recognize by CP1

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      What camera make and model? Do you have you PC Remote turned on? Is the version of CP1 the same on both computers?

    • @iKIMshuffle
      @iKIMshuffle Год назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 what’s the remote? I didn’t know about that. I’m using a Leica SL2-s. I was able to tether before even on my tablet and phone. The new update on the laptop did some freaky stuff now my C1 keeps on crashing when trying to tether.

    • @iKIMshuffle
      @iKIMshuffle Год назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 but it wasn’t just one camera. I thought I just need to update one but I also tried my b-cam it’s doing the same problem. It’s a Lumix G9

  • @lookforbeauty1964
    @lookforbeauty1964 Год назад +4

    Linear profile looks better in C1. Export tool is way better in C1. Levels is an amazing tool LR lacks of. Raw rendition in C1 is better than LR's. Separate modules is great in C1. Integrates awfully with some third party plugins. Styles with masks in a separate layer is great.
    LR has way better mask options. LR renders quicker than C1. Color rendition difference has been highly reduced between both. The cost of Lr subscription with PS is way cheaper than C1's.

  • @jerzyledzinski
    @jerzyledzinski 8 месяцев назад +1

    Comparing with differennt photos... Why?!

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  8 месяцев назад

      Not sure what your question is referring to.

  • @omeletta9801
    @omeletta9801 8 месяцев назад

    Love the intro!

  • @SuryaFriends
    @SuryaFriends 5 месяцев назад

    i find style in capture one compared to preset of lightroom quite inferior, thats one feature which is tempting me to switch back to LR

  • @Aleksanderespelid
    @Aleksanderespelid Год назад +12

    The absolute abysmal file structure Lightroom is working with will forever keep me from Lightroom. I absolutely hate how the catalogs work, and until they make something like C1 session I can never go back to LR. Also how slow LR has always been with creating previews and all that jazz is not good enough. I do however wish C1 would get somehting like the Calibrate tool that LR has, it just does something that I cannot really don in C1 the same way.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад +1

      Thank you for watching. I don't might the catalog feature in LRC, but I understand your point about preview build time. You wonder why a company like Adobe can't improve that, while a small company like Photo Mechanic can.

    • @Aleksanderespelid
      @Aleksanderespelid Год назад +3

      @@PhotoKitchen425 I get how people can like the catalogue feature, and having a system in the catalog. But the fact that they dont have a session based feature like C1, without an enourmous amount of hassle, is annoying. At least let us choose

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      I agree @@Aleksanderespelid

    • @JasonEkonomakos
      @JasonEkonomakos 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Aleksanderespelid I used to be on the same page as you, but I got tired of using Capture One as some features became clunky to use. I did like the sessions, but I went back to Lightroom.
      The added AI masks really speed up development in Lightroom and I figured out how to use the Lightroom catalog pretty well, it's mostly in knowing how to set up and use keywords.
      Now when I Import sessions, I rename the files, add keywords, and go through the process of rating the images. The smart collection feature can be used to set up collections, and now it's streamlined for me to update my portfolio collections automatically. The set up is there and it's automatic while I'm doing the actual work instead of having to go back later and reorganize everything.
      Capture One just didn't seem to work well in certain aspects but maybe once they make updates I'll take a look again

  • @chrispeden979
    @chrispeden979 11 месяцев назад +1

    This needs a revisit now that capture one will copy ai masks without having to make a preset

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching. I did do a follow up video about that very thing! ruclips.net/video/87A4kWG0B0I/видео.html

  • @colinbazzano
    @colinbazzano 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hmm, you're saying they don't give you multiple masks on the same layer, but they do give you layers. Sooooooooo....have one mask per each layer? That doesn't seem ridiculous to me, just a design choice.

  • @ZombieRofl
    @ZombieRofl Год назад

    I wish there were more real competitors for LR. LR is just really good at a lot of area's (specially speed), but is in a desperate need of UI updates like the rest of the Adobe software has.

  • @MikeTaylorPhotoArts
    @MikeTaylorPhotoArts Год назад

    I had to stop the vid at just 3:50. It seems that you want the developers to make LR more complicated than it is. I like it just fine and will continue to use if as it fits my needs just fine. Also, I shoot in studio tethered into LR and have zero issues with it in that regard. I shoot with Nikon bodies with no issues at all. Perhaps your issues with tethering are specific to your camera body. Who knows. I'll just keep clicking away on my Nikon DSLRs happily and contently.

  • @gbee8888
    @gbee8888 Год назад +2

    Bit of a major goof not knowing about C1 custom styles and AI mask generation.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад +1

      Indeed, but I just posted a video explaining my goof. Thank you for watching.

  • @philthehatfilms
    @philthehatfilms 3 месяца назад

    Decent review, aren't these app so frustrating sometimes 😂

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for watching. I think CP1 is the more frustrating for me, because they just won't make simple UI changes to improve the experience. The lack of true, or inconsistent "Auto Sync" for Metadata and Development settings costs me so much time, but not as much as the lack of quality export on LRC's side of things.

    • @philthehatfilms
      @philthehatfilms 3 месяца назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 I know what you mean, I left using C1 as it slow enough but it was frustrating using it and once LR improved a couple of years ago with the masking I switched. Found masking on each image more accurate with C1 and you refine better but overall very slow to use. Agree C1 seemed obstinately stubborn in their refusal to changes, probably don't have the R&D budget available to Adobe.

  • @jonathongooch6259
    @jonathongooch6259 Год назад

    I used a Sony camera recently and wished lrc accepted arw files

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  Год назад

      I use Lightroom Classic and it does accept .ARW files. Do you have a newer camera or and older version of LRC that needs to be updated?

  • @jayymorris5285
    @jayymorris5285 7 месяцев назад +1

    My real question is about presets. Can capture one use lightroom presets? If it does I can finally stop pirating Lightroom once and for all.

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  7 месяцев назад

      To the best of my knowledge, no, CP1 can't use LRC presets.

    • @jayymorris5285
      @jayymorris5285 7 месяцев назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 After asking around, I found a preset converter from Picture Instruments!

  • @marybergphotography
    @marybergphotography 5 месяцев назад

    like and subscribed. Full support

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much, and thank you for watching!

  • @Pspet
    @Pspet 11 месяцев назад

    Number 1 thing Lightroom should do immediately that's so embarrassing that it doesn't exist, is to let us use the whole functionality when creating a mask. Why don't I have access to all the tools when editing a mask??? Are you even serious?

    • @PhotoKitchen425
      @PhotoKitchen425  11 месяцев назад

      I agree totally. But I think these are features are coming. And that is not code, I have no clue, but I can't imagine that Adobe can't include these features in the next release.

    • @Pspet
      @Pspet 11 месяцев назад

      @@PhotoKitchen425 Maybe. But what makes you so sure? This is something they should /could have done from the first release that contained masks, and yet, so many years down the road and we still have limited tools for masks

  • @seyhalearnphotography
    @seyhalearnphotography 8 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤🎉🎉

  • @billycrowe4501
    @billycrowe4501 11 месяцев назад

    Adobe’s lack of tethering support is ABYSMAL. NO excuse

  • @BLPC-g8e
    @BLPC-g8e 6 месяцев назад +2

    Those who claim C1 is better with skin tones... just don't use Nikon, right ? I use Nikon cameras and the reddish cast is just horrible on skin tones, whatever the profile used. I always have to tame it and, with a mural selection on the lips, get their colors back. Painful and time consuming. It's just like if C1 doesn't separate magenta and orange from red, they all mix in a same global red cast. So... I just use C1 for tethered jobs, and develop all my portraits in LR later. What a waste of time.

  • @wielpaquay1932
    @wielpaquay1932 Месяц назад

    C1 much to expensive

  • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
    @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 7 месяцев назад +1

    HORIBLE EDIT IN CAPTURE ONE PHOTO!!!!! WTF IS THAT?? WHITE BALANCE IS INCORRECT

  • @neostephens8980
    @neostephens8980 Год назад +1

    Dude, get over yourself, software, like any other thing is an evolving process. No kuddos to you either for this BS video. This doesn't qualify as "comparison" video, more of a "you don't like LR" video. And that's OK, but don't try to make us think this is a comparison video. I use both of these, in addition to ON1 and they are all pretty fast. As far as tethering, I don't see ANY difference in speed between LR and C1. I guess you must have a crappy machine, but anywho, to each their own opinion.