Onex Turbo Performance update

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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2021
  • Prop Prince P-Tip for aerovee turbo 54"x50 pitch
    Sorry about the fuzzy focus on the panel. Now that my engine/turbo issues are all dialed in it's time to just fly!!!! Super happy with the performance now. I have not been full throttle yet but when I hit 43" OMG you can feel it pull. I flew the first 30 something hours at 33" max so every once in a while I dial my take off back just to compare.. fun stuff...... I want a faster prop now..
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Комментарии • 54

  • @boviac
    @boviac 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the update Ben!!!

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад

      You bet. Are you flying something?

  • @shademe
    @shademe Год назад +1

    thank you 4 sharing I really enjoyed it

  • @dannymostarac1799
    @dannymostarac1799 Год назад +1

    Kewel 😊

  • @repurposedperformance5762
    @repurposedperformance5762 2 года назад +3

    You can’t cool egt externally… egt is the temp within the exhaust chamber. No amount of airflow on the exterior of the exhaust will have any effect on egt. Egt is the temp at which the exhaust is leaving the cylinder head. If you want to lower egt you need a higher octane fuel. Looking at your Map HG’s you are running roughly 8lbs of boost. 93 octane will most definitely cause high EGTs but if you switched to a fuel like 100 octane your egt problem will most likely cure itself. If you really want to rectify the problem then run c16.
    8lbs of boost with pump gas in a engine that runs a constant load is a recipe for detonation and high EGTs. It’s easily correctable and there are plenty solutions to make your engine run high boost safely for long periods of time with low EGTS and no detonation.

    • @Artoconnell
      @Artoconnell 2 года назад

      #3 egt was scarin the hell outta me.

    • @sactu1
      @sactu1 Год назад

      Good comment. CHTs are the numbers that reflect engine stress - with Lycoming 360s, one really needs to keep them under 400 degrees, so it was a bit of a concern to see the Aerovee's at 420. Different engine I know, but CHTs are the numbers that I am generally more concerned with.

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  Год назад

      @@Artoconnell ruclips.net/video/fqe9j74qMdk/видео.html Savy Aviator super great info on EGT

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  Год назад +1

      @@sactu1 Aerovee max CHT is listed at 450. But after listening to Mike Bush the Savy Aviator I try to keep it under 400 (see link in comment above) . Super educational

  • @steveh9714
    @steveh9714 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for sharing your real-world experience Ben! Been watching what a great job you've done! How light did it end up at the end?

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад +1

      Actually Its pretty heavy the turbo added around 25 lbs. and at the time my shoulder was bad so i built an electric lift seat that added 25lbs. They list empty weight at 600 and i"m at 670ish... so I eat a cheese burger and I'm at gross.

    • @steveh9714
      @steveh9714 2 года назад

      @@1bengrubb DOUGH! Salad for you! Would love to come visit sometime... down near KTOA

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад

      @@steveh9714 dang yer waaaay down there.. I'm going to try and get to Byron just east of san fran this week. I'm going to be a test pilot for www.tetra-gofly.com/ for the month of august and part of September in Byron. I'm super excited.

    • @steveh9714
      @steveh9714 2 года назад

      @@1bengrubb That sounds amazing! have a blast!

    • @steveh9714
      @steveh9714 2 года назад

      @@1bengrubb So if you were going to fly higher like 8-10k, how big of a cruise prop would you go for with your turbo?

  • @mtcondie
    @mtcondie 2 года назад

    Great video!

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад

      Great glad you like it thanks!

  • @shawn16400
    @shawn16400 2 года назад

    Dialed in for cross country trip!

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад

      Hope to do a practice run just east of San Francisco this week

  • @markhamilton8612
    @markhamilton8612 2 года назад

    Do you feel that you have all the pre-ignition issues worked out? I’m assuming it was possibly from the lead build-up? Maybe I missed the video but did u figure out the root cause?

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад +1

      Cured!! ruclips.net/video/cNxu301ukvY/видео.html at 2:00 it shows the lead build up. 1. I overlapped the oil ring 2. caused oil to pool. 3. oil made a cool spot(??) on head 4. caused lead to precipitate on that spot. 5. High power load setting (take off) would make lead glow 6. pre-ignition. I'm using decalinchemicals.com/ invented by a chemist in my home town!! Fall River Mills CA. --town of 400 people. Actually I lived 8 miles from that in Glenburn.

  • @chippyjohn1
    @chippyjohn1 2 года назад

    It is strange that external cooling would affect EGT temperatures so much. The probe should be inside the exhaust. You would have to have some serious heat soak from the turbo to affect it. You should show a layout of the engine bay.

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад

      Yep the turbo right by #3 egt and it's a tight fit

  • @joeshmooo5327
    @joeshmooo5327 Год назад

    Like to see a rotax in one of these. All these issues with heat go away.

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  Год назад

      Well its not like its a heat issue...I just cant climb as fast as I could if I had BETTER cooling....a rotax just takes money and all the radiators n stuff might not fit.

    • @joeshmooo5327
      @joeshmooo5327 Год назад

      @@1bengrubb I get it, just really like the Sonex but it seems like every video I watch the EGT are getting hot and they have to back off the throttle etc. Never seen that with a Rotax of course that is all I have flown in the Light Sport category.

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  Год назад

      @@joeshmooo5327 If you cannot overheat your rotax there is probably more power available that you're not getting. Heat is just one more thing I have to manage with the extra power.

  • @kazansky22
    @kazansky22 2 года назад +1

    I'd love to see how well that engine holds power up to 12.5k
    Also curious about ias and tas at 17.5k
    Just for science :)
    And just wondering if the turbo will continue to make full power up there.

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  2 года назад +1

      Gasoline burns with oxygen.if I can maintain manifold pressure then I'm maintaining the same volume of air entering the engine the only question is what percent of that volume is still oxygen.... Calculate that percent and you know what the horsepower is.... I'll have to try it!

    • @GrantOakes
      @GrantOakes 2 года назад +3

      @@1bengrubb Percentage of oxygen at sea level or altitude is the same, atmospheric pressure is what changes. If you an maintain 30" at altitude you'll have sea level O2, HP and probably still make 80hp.

    • @cousineddie7444
      @cousineddie7444 Год назад

      The aeroconversions page shows cruise speeds at 8000ft of 170-175mph, and WOT speeds of 187mph with specific props on Sonex/Waiex aircraft. The B-series kits hold 20gal instead of 15, so you can burn a bit more fuel to maintain higher cruise speeds too.

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  Год назад

      @@cousineddie7444 yaaaaaa no. brochures are nice..

    • @cousineddie7444
      @cousineddie7444 Год назад

      @@1bengrubb What does that mean? You don't think those aircraft can hold those speeds with that engine?

  • @GrantOakes
    @GrantOakes Год назад

    Your fuel flow seems a bit high considering you're running a max of 100hp. A Cessna 150 with the O-200 (100hp) at 75% power burns right about 5 gph, a C-172 at 75% about 7.5 gph. Are the Aero-Vee engines that inefficient that they run as much as they do?

    • @1bengrubb
      @1bengrubb  Год назад

      I"m just learning all this so my goal then was to keep EGT below 1400 so I was running super rich. After listening to the Savy Aviator ruclips.net/video/fqe9j74qMdk/видео.html I learned the goal is to watch CHT . After going to Ohio last summer ONEX vs USA I was running 5gph at 140mph! I just now got a faster prop so I anticipate my fuel burn to go up some. Super fun stuff and a lot of learning..

  • @Trike.
    @Trike. 2 года назад

    Hey wheres your S14 , I am going to buy one . I want to try 3 axis compared to my trike