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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- A brief video clip documentary about DeepMind Behringer and the capacity to emulate Roland Jupiter and Juno synthesizers with IR3109 VCF.
It show also comparasion with famouse 80's songs (someone was played with Jupiter 8).
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Fantastic job and I was super thrilled to hear you re-create the Equality lead sound! Not many people know this but as well as being a part of the incredible team here at Behringer, I also tour with Howard Jones playing additional keys and electronic percussion :-) Keep up with the awesome content! - Dan
Thank you Grazie
For me was a pleasure to have made this brief video documentary about DeepMind.
Sorry, I had to like the comment. Now it's got 107 likes 😢
@@SamiJumppanen lol!
Damn. RIP to Dan.
Absolutely! There are videos out there that prove that.
спасибо Николай 🙂
Great demo! Talk Talk used some very unique keyboard sounds, indeed.
what FX where used ?
Logic Pro Reverb only.
I don't use FX DSP inside, I prefer the full sound analog processing.
@@lewischannel84 thanks 🙂
i have never been happier with a synth than with my DM12. For the money, it's simply the best synth on the planet, and YES, it can make sounds on par with my jx-3p my jx-8p, my JP-6 and JP-8/MKS-80 (yep all of em), as well as my Juno -60 and -106. It is incredible.
I own many vintage synths, like Prophet 5, Prophet 600, Roland JD800 et al. Recently I got a Deepmind 12 and have to say that it is a great synth which can absolutely compete. Probably has the worst presets on earth though 😅! @behringer you should update those. The Sequencer and Arpeggiator are super versatile and the usability gets a 10 out of 10. This makes a really nice, easy to understand beginners polysynth, especially given the unbeatable price point.
I agree with the DeepMind having the worst presets of all time 😂
I changed mine to the deep find patches to make them Juno and Jupiter presets 😊
The IR3109 filter is not unconditionally low-pass. It depends on on how you wire it, like every other filter. The jupiter-6 makes full use of the filter by integrating a 3-state multimode filter based on 4 poles
What a fun video to watch for an 80s nerd like me 👍 The DM-12 is the cheapest polysynth I own, but somehow one of the best sounding ones. The DeepMind clearly shows that many of the newer analog re-issues of the big brands are excessively overpriced, with some even sounding very bland in comparison to the DeepMind. To anyone on a budget looking for a bread and butter analog or virtual analog polysynth, I’d always recommend the DM12. Thanks for this amazing video, the inspiration embedded within the video and the love given to these 80s music gems. Keep up the great work! Love and light from Coconut Homes Resort in Khao Lak, Thailand 🇹🇭 ❤️☀️🏝🌴🥥 🐘
This is one of the best Demo's of the Deepmind on the web. Love the Limit reference... a truly great and underrated 80's group.
Excellent. Well produced. The Deepmind goes deeper than so many give her credit for. Brilliant synth.
I think DeepMind it's a real representation of the emulation Roland vintage sound.
Behringer not need to propduce a Jupiter 8 copy (IMO).
Congratulaion for this nice video on DeepMind.
Thanks
Jupiter 8 has O1-O2 FM and Cross-FM, Triangle waveshape... DM12 has not unfortunatelly. It's closer to Juno.
My like DeepMind it's the only one synth today that offer the Roland Vintage sound.
It is 'Roland' enough to my ears so I have a DM12 already.
Side note: your voice sounds close to the narrator voice of The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy 😁👍🏾, which makes it nice that The Guide is giving advice on synths now.
Let me put it this way - I'm running out of excuses not to get a Deepmind. This video was excellent, wish it was longer! (..and thanks for including Safety Dance!)
Deepmind 6/12 is a pretty darn good synth...Specially given its pricepoint...It is AWESOME!
Yes! I own the DM12D. Plays well with my digital synths.
my first concert was Howard Jones Aug 12 1985 Pine Knob MI
I love this synth. I ended up buying the Deepmind 12 used (at a very low price). It came with Jupiter and Juno synth patches bought and installed by the previous owner. They sound amazing. I definitely recommend this synth in anyone's collection whether you're a beginner or professional.
Totally wish they would have built voice/filter set templates for this thing like DIVA has. Would have been a game changer 8 think for this synth.
is there a link and or video for the jupiter patches?
@kujumz806 The previous owner had told me where he purchased them from, but I do not remember from where. There are a few RUclips pages that offer their patches online for purchase. You can listen to them first before purchase. Check them out.
@@kujumz806look up Jorb DeepMind patches - they're free!
@7:35 Leads mix with xylophone and Mullet ^_____^ Talk about 80's
Cool video! How about a walk around the patches you created for this :D?
My next buy
Nice video, for me DeepMind it's a good emulation of Roland vintage sound.
Use mine combined with a MODX+, better than a MONTAGE ; )
Incredible work on this video thanks
Nice vid, takes me back to my youth! Love that 'Equality' lead, will have to give it a shot on my DM12.
imagine a Deepmind 24 with 7 octaves :)
ruclips.net/video/o4t7MFkVZEg/видео.htmlsi=dP1zEW2WU80C5oUr
Great :-)
DM12 is a seriously underrated synth. The patches are awful though. If it would have come with patches from classic 106/ J8 songs and a better, 61 key bed… it would be unstoppable.
Jorb makes a 106 patch bank for Deepmind. I think it's free too, if I remember correctly
the biggest issue I have is the omission of sub osc's, would have gone a long way
I still like the synth though
Hi Richard, OSC 2 it's a sub OSC that you can control the pitch.
There'is different way to have a sub OSC to play with real OSCs 1, I will create a second video clip about the DeepMind feature.
well I don’t know about the Jupiter but I’ve got mine along with the june60(re tweeted) sounding about95%identical to my juno60. Biggest difference is the Juno is about 65% louder
iam thinking about purchase one of these. but my biggest concern is that you can match the original juno chorus with the inside effects? because everything else seems to match the original one.
@@heitorfialho6762 just buy the tc electronic pedal here we go
@@heitorfialho6762 chorus onboard DM12 is not the same.
And tc electronic pedal don't emulates not very close.
I had a Jx3P and that noisy but glorious chorus is not yet 100% replicated by another brand.
Sorry for my poor english
Do you sell those patches?
Go to The Synth Friends (Facebook groupe)
Hi! These examples are really interesting! But I've didn't heard a "side to side" comparisons here... You've layered DM12 over the originals... Hard to hear what was before that.
Howard Jones - Equality
P Lion - Dream
Depeche Mode - Leave In Silance
Howard Jones - What Is Love
Nathalie - My Love Won't Let You Down
Roxanne - Charlene
Man Without Hats - Safty Dance
Paul Hardcastle - King Tut
The Limit - She So Divine
Joe Yellow - Recollection
Talk Talk - It's My Life
some excellent additions to my 80s synthpop playlist i haven't heard before, cheers :D (i also own a dm12 - awesome synth).
Great video! Inspired me to go play the DM12.
Yes me too
Your robot is a nice touch. Very futuristic.
Great post 😢hanks for posting.. just ordered a deep mind 12 with new price drop
Just saying, Alan Wilder had nothing to do with Leave In Silence. Awesome video, thx for making it.
pretty damn good tbf
An interesting and enjoyable video - thanks. I would also reference Nick Rhodes of Duran Duran (Rio Album) in introducing the Jupiter 8 sound.
This was excellent. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. Made my thoughts on getting the DeepMind much easier!
Track list?
Howard Jones - Equality
P Lion - Dream
Depeche Mode - Leave In Silance
Howard Jones - What Is Love
Nathalie - My Love Won't Let You Down
Roxanne - Charlene
Man Without Hats - Safty Dance
Paul Hardcastle - King Tut
The Limit - She So Divine
Joe Yellow - Recollection
Talk Talk - It's My Life
It's a nicely done comparison. Whilst it absolutely can replicate the Juno 6-60-106, replication of the Jupiter 8's subtleties with cross mod etc, is not there. I have owned the original JP8, and now own both a DM and the JP-08, plus the Cloud ACB and Zenology versions. I'd still love to see Behringer really do their JP8 clone, as I think they'll nail it.
One thing.. the commentary is very "Jinglish" (as we used to say at Yamaha R&D). It's a great, soothing and very listenable voice over, but the grammar and use of English needs work.
For the record, when at Yamaha R&D, we also worked with Howard quite a bit (Jones), he came in for a Vocaloid overview, and over the years, did quite a bit with us. Truly one of the great exponents along with Nick Rhodes of the JP8
Thank you for your comment Nick.
Sorry it's my fault, if voice over speak with some grammatic error, I wrote the text, and he don't fixed some sentences.
Unfortunately youtube doesn't offer yet, the possibility to exchange video or switch with next audio track.
@@lewischannel84 no apology needed ..it was great
I played Southern California clubs 5 nights a week in the 80’s with a Jupiter 8 and DX7 as my kit. I sold them both in 1990. I now have both the DM12 and DM12D, and there is no way they even come close to re-producing the brass/string sounds of my Jupiter 8, I leave that for either Kontakt Jupiter 8 samples .. or my Jupiter 80. The DM12’s are cool though for what they do .. kinda their own unique things that sound very digital to my ears.
Wish you still had the Jupiter for a blind comparison. I gigged with a Juno 106 back in the day and to my ears the DM12 sounds close enough I'd don't think I'd be able to tell the difference in a blind test. But I'll never know now :(
Would you please share or sell these patches? I am very interested. Please message me
@@lewischannel84 hi, it’s jasonblish@gmail.com
RUclips censured email adress, please contact Ludus Di Marino on Facebook.
Very informative, appreciate the info!
tracklist please
Howard Jones - Equality
P Lion - Dream
Depeche Mode - Leave In Silance
Howard Jones - What Is Love
Nathalie - My Love Won't Let You Down
Roxanne - Charlene
Man Without Hats - Safty Dance
Paul Hardcastle - King Tut
The Limit - She So Divine
Joe Yellow - Recollection
Talk Talk - It's My Life
Loved this review! Totally felt like I was watching an old 90s video, and gets me excited about synths. 10/10
does behringer use the same oscillator chips for all their analog synths?
Pheraps, I don't know 🙂
no, different ones use different designs, both dicreet and cloned chips
I own the Deepmind 12 since it came out a few years ago and, although it's a great sounding analog synth, I just wish it had 2 oscillators per voice (instead of having to use Unison-2 mode reducing the polyphony to only 6 voices), and also a five-octave keyboard instead of just four. That's why I'm eagerly awaiting the upcoming Behringer UB-Xa that has been promised over 4 years ago and is ready for mass production as soon as the chips shortage subsides.
Deepmind-12 has two oscillators per voice, at least mine does..
Unison 2 the polyphony is 6 voices with 2 OSCs per voice, so you can play on the keyboard 6 finghers (3 upper and 2 lower, or 4 upper and 2 lower) for brass, lead, mallet, etc.
You can play it without problem, on Jupiter 8, with Unison mode the polyphony it reduced more, with DeepMind you can control in different way instead.
@@randomaccess8540
No, it does not. What they call OSC 2 is actually a Sub Oscillator of OSC1 of which you can sort of change the waveform somewhat and control the pitch. NOT a full-fledge oscillator like OSC1 (which only offers only 2 waveforms but combinable). You cannot get two slightly detuned oscillators with both a sawtooth waveform like on a proper 2 oscillator analog synth. Unless you use UNISON-2 mode, in which case you drop the polyphony down to 6 voices (on the DeepMind 12 and 3 voices on the DeepMind 6).
@@AlainHubert
OSC 1 is the real oscillator of course, the second is a wavefrom circuite generate a squ wavefrom (I think it's not a sub osc) it's can be modulate with tone mode and offering square sound Roland style).
So Unison 2 with 2 oscillators for voice of OSC 1, thanks to Modulation Matrix is possible to have a full control of Fine and Detune for first groupe OSCs and second groupe OSCs, and add square waveform "OSC 2"
This is important function, becouse the Detune and Fine control is not present on the panel.
Sorry if I don't specificate in the previusly comment.
UBXa has no fx like dm12
Great patches and really good video. Any chance we can download these patches?
Join to Facebook group 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐲𝐧𝐭𝐡 𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬 it will be available in this days.
@@lewischannel84 can you please share a link to this group? I'm not able to find it 😞
Pascal you can read the link below in the descriptions.
@UCzudkoR7UD7yHdKESiXTKKQ Thank you! And sorry for being blind, I missed the link...
@@lewischannel84 amazing work. just requested to join as well. My DM12 has never let me down soundwise, if anything its my imagination that is the limit.
The fact is that neither DM nor Juno60 can fully emulate Juno106. Juno106 is more advanced than Juno60 in terms of sound output.
The Strings and Organ classic Juno sound that TFG used on Talk Talk's It's my life. My next Polysynth purchase whilst I repair my 106 and JP-4.
Hi Simon
I think Jupiter 8 was used for It's My Life, take look some Talk Talk live video.
@@lewischannel84 In the studio I believe that the Juno 106 , JX3p a Yamaha DX7 and Kurzweil Piano were used and I think that a JP8 was certainly used in the live rig but unsure about the studio set up as some debate over the OBX-A being the chorus sound and the JP8 . I've linked a video below that discusses it in detail :
ruclips.net/video/-87ySfjZjGs/видео.html
What is that riff at 6.45 Howard Jones?
Paul Hardcastle - King Tut
@@lewischannel84 Thanks
Excellent video. Love it.
3:58 "Crystalline & texture synthetic - el and space sound". Whaa?😵💫 Did I hear that right? Are these Roland marketing terms or sonic adjectives I've never come across before?
haha he's managed to make this sound like one of those commercials inbetween cinema shows from the 80's
I hope so! just purchased one
There is a video on RUclips comparing the Jupiter 8 to the Deepmind.
Yes indeed, it is capable of recreating the vintage roland synths, but it would be so nice to have those patches pre-installed, so that we wouldn't toil to make them or buy them from 3rd party sound designers..
I love how he definitively states that the Roland filter chip has a more pleasant sound as though he speaks for all humans.
No, in the direkt compairson, the Oscillators of the DeepMind are way too thin. In recordings, he cant deliver the energie of a Roland synth. Thats the reason of his massive FX Section. But the DM is so variable and versatile and i am always happy with mine.
why would I like to "imitate" old 40 years old sounds and style... ?? the 80s were the most boring decade in terms of dance and rock music....
Nostalgic stuff to many pups and mums, you know ;)
those who were alive in the 80's say the same thing about music in the current decade...where we actually also find a lot of these same sounds being used to create "todays" sound. Just adjust the tempo, add a played-out trap hat loop and talk through auto tune and you're right where you want to be 🤣
@@FrequSpectra I hate "auto-tune rap". It sounds like a requiem.
There were maybe 3 years when everyone was using dx7 presets and Linn drums that were difficult, but the early 80s had the synth pop innovators and the late 80s the rave progenitors so I'd hardly call it a boring decade for music
Sounds superior to today's boring crap sounds. You must not have great tastes then I guess.