BETA VS SHERCO | Which Bike is Better for You?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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    Two European manufactures go head to head in this desert duel! We take a 2021 Beta 300 RX and compare it against a 2021 Sherco 250 SE Factory. With 15 different categories we cover all sorts of differences between the two bikes to help you decide which bike is better for you!
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Комментарии • 120

  • @randerson7761
    @randerson7761 3 года назад +24

    I'm not even thinking of these bikes and watched the whole thing because you made it so interesting. I learned a ton as well. Thanks guys!

  • @TonyRidesDirtbikes
    @TonyRidesDirtbikes 3 года назад +18

    Apples to oranges review. Comparing an Enduro to an MX, of 2 different capacities. But yes like you said, comparing characteristics...

    • @rollypollyraviolli4474
      @rollypollyraviolli4474 2 года назад +1

      Hrmmm. Didn't think either of these companies made motocrossers. Just enduro/offroad racers. Quite frankly both of these companies probably sell more trials bikes alone in Europe than they sell bikes period in the US. Only non-austrian euro mx bike i can think of is Fanatic and TM. Maybe some other boutiques.

  • @twowheelpilot
    @twowheelpilot 3 года назад +30

    Thanks for making this video but it's totally pointless. One a 250, the other a 300. One Enduro, the other motocross based, not the same wheel size. Non standard suspension, non standard ergonomics. Tyres not the same as far as I can tell. This wouldn't help someone go and buy a Sherco off the floor. So much as been changed it's not even the same bike anymore. Trying not to sound all negative on this but it has to be relevant. On a positive note I like the editing and you boys know how to ride plus eloquent 👍 I'd just like to see two OEM bikes of the same category and same capacity back to back as I'm sure many others would also.

    • @lardoretardo906
      @lardoretardo906 Год назад +2

      I thought the same thing. Soon as I found a difference in size, I immediatly dismissed the comparison

    • @WADZUP
      @WADZUP Месяц назад

      I was hoping it would be a beta 200 RR, but I’m in the same boat as you as soon as I saw it it was a 300 I moved on

  • @kraigvanderwyk1153
    @kraigvanderwyk1153 2 года назад +7

    Although it is a little disappointing that both bikes weren’t in stock form, I think you guys did a great job. Loved the straight forward format.

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac 3 года назад +3

    Thanks guys...great stuff! One of the best compare vids out there. The crew at MotoXperts dialed in my 990 and I wish I had taken it there years ago. Thanks for your content.

  • @PNWEnduro
    @PNWEnduro 3 года назад +18

    If you were comparing in a woods setting I have no doubt you would give the point for maneuverability to Sherco. The turning radius in tight single track is the Beta's weakest point. As far as suspension, stock for stock the Sherco has a KYB shock and Beta has Sachs, no contest there. Valving on an enduro bike is going to be a lot different than an mx bike as well.

  • @okcmoparguy724
    @okcmoparguy724 2 года назад +2

    I think most of us really enjoyed the video and hope these promising young men take the constructive criticism in the comment section to heart. You guys create great content, this was just not a great choice for a comparison. You'll learn from it and impress us again soon. Keep teaching, someday I want to ride like the Knights (I'm 45 so hurry!).

  • @CA-oi3th
    @CA-oi3th 3 года назад +7

    Another amazing Video! You guys are killing it! Looking at this Beta model, never even thought of Sherco,,, am now👍🇺🇸

  • @joelballard4952
    @joelballard4952 3 года назад +3

    I’m a new beta 300rr owner. Have about 6 hours on it. Few little complaints. But so far loving it.

  • @monson41j48
    @monson41j48 3 года назад +9

    this is the most indepth revew i have ever seen. great goob!

  • @PommyLump
    @PommyLump 3 года назад +21

    Without stock suspension, half of the categories are a waste of time!!

  • @donniemcfarland3160
    @donniemcfarland3160 3 года назад +4

    Put a deposit down on a 2022 beta 300 race edition. I’m going Beta but you can’t go wrong with either bike they are both so good!

  • @holostyak99
    @holostyak99 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the big work making this comparison

  • @TheFastphill
    @TheFastphill 3 года назад +1

    I Have a Sherco 300 SE factory and have been very happy with it the KYB forks and shock feel great engine has great lug it has help my riding so much !

    • @AlbertKlanort
      @AlbertKlanort Год назад +1

      hello, Beta RR 300 or Sherco se factory 300, which is more powerful, more aggressive, more brutal, more reliable, faster in the forest on difficult trails and difficult climbs thanks!🤝🏻

  • @chrisbracken7889
    @chrisbracken7889 2 года назад +2

    Please consider some TM 300 content

  • @chrisbracken7889
    @chrisbracken7889 2 года назад +2

    Great video ! Keep them coming

  • @JeffGriffithGGC
    @JeffGriffithGGC 3 года назад +21

    These two bikes aren't in the same category. The Beta 300 RX is supposed to be a motocross bike.

  • @spookslam
    @spookslam 3 года назад +5

    Quality job! Congratulations!

  • @lornes3464
    @lornes3464 Год назад +2

    Very nice video giving some good points to think about.

  • @scottdrew6403
    @scottdrew6403 3 года назад +5

    A 300 motorcross bike and a 250 woods bike....Why even compare?

  • @Trillian
    @Trillian 2 года назад +2

    Great review guys! Very thorough!

  • @tannergietzen9539
    @tannergietzen9539 3 года назад +9

    Another thing to consider on the sherco is the electric power valve which lets you program the mapping the way you want if you have the right cable. The software for the sherco’s mapping is also free and easy to use. If you prefer a harder hit and better top end power at the sacrifice of low end power you can change the bike to be more like the beta.

    • @te4097
      @te4097 2 года назад

      Does the beta have more top end power tha a sherco? and does the sherco lack in the top end?

    • @vinceking7878
      @vinceking7878 2 года назад

      Why don’t Ktm use this on their TPI bikes??

    • @rogermty1971
      @rogermty1971 2 года назад

      @@vinceking7878
      They will on their 2023 model XCs. Not sure about their XC-Ws yet.

  • @scannorse
    @scannorse 3 года назад +10

    “Lead example by ktm..”? No, that lead example belong to the original gasgas in 1997 which featured the vibration reduction in their endurobikes.

  • @desertjunkie5047
    @desertjunkie5047 3 года назад +2

    Awesome video guys! The work and effort that was put in definitely shows. Keep it up!

  • @gizzmo89
    @gizzmo89 2 года назад +3

    I dont get the review here.. the correct way to do it should have been to take same capacity bikes 300cc, stock suspension and with all stock settings. Change to new tires of the same brand and modell on both bikes. Only then can you compare the actual difference of the two brands of bikes

  • @mikeaustad8979
    @mikeaustad8979 3 года назад +6

    With obvious height difference between the two of you, did you prefer one over the other.
    And how tall are you guys, if I may ask.
    Great video.

  • @mozanieldesouzapaula5951
    @mozanieldesouzapaula5951 7 месяцев назад

    Congrats you guys make the video like good movie, i got stuck on it. great job

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks! This was super useful for me!

  • @easyaussietarget3355
    @easyaussietarget3355 3 года назад +1

    What a fantastic review gentlemen!
    Worth a sub and my future attention to your channel.

  • @BishopCreative
    @BishopCreative Год назад +1

    I’d actually like to hear the comparison between the 500’s from anybody that’s spent time on both!

  • @ParkerRichards360
    @ParkerRichards360 6 месяцев назад

    You guys killed it! You got my sub! However I still can’t decide what bike to buy next lol 😅

  • @2uzfe4x43
    @2uzfe4x43 Год назад +1

    i keep watching all these videos to find out which two stroke would be the best, in idaho tough single track and the price of a YZX is almost a no brainer, but from everything everyone is saying a european two stroke would be much better, have you done tough single track on a YZX with a flywheel weight? would i regret it?

  • @karmacurio3967
    @karmacurio3967 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video ...love it . Love to see more videos.

  • @dylanbotha9052
    @dylanbotha9052 2 года назад +2

    why compare a 250 to a 300?

  • @bennyadisuryo8151
    @bennyadisuryo8151 3 года назад +1

    Welldone.. Pro guys. Clearly information, tkyu good guys

  • @SreidMX
    @SreidMX 3 года назад +1

    You guys gotta do this more! Excellent objective evaluations!

  • @chrisarch37
    @chrisarch37 6 месяцев назад

    Ive had a beta 300 and am currently on a sherco 250. Im surprised that you guys felt like the beta was more maneuverable. In the single track stuff i mainly ride, i feel the sherco is way more nimbal. It's easier to turn, and maneuver over the beta.

  • @chris_moodie9
    @chris_moodie9 3 года назад +4

    why would you compare the rx? its the "motocross" version

  • @Equinoxdark
    @Equinoxdark 2 года назад +3

    Comparing motorcross 300 with an enduro 250? Huh?

  • @gypsymanjeff2184
    @gypsymanjeff2184 3 года назад +3

    As a BETA owner gotta say ,,ALFAs ride BETAs,,but always love those Shercos,,gr8 vid ,,except for the lack of real tight stuff ,,kinda left that out and thats the whole bike

  • @timbjork2098
    @timbjork2098 3 года назад +9

    kinda not comparing apples to apples betas down falls come at the point you using a motocross version. might as well call it motocross vs enduro bike comparisons

  • @jswervy16
    @jswervy16 2 года назад +1

    How did you mount the KTM flags on the Beta? I need them.

  • @uncletom1971
    @uncletom1971 2 года назад +1

    What's that white stuff in the sand? Salt?
    It's not snow, is it?

  • @vinceking7878
    @vinceking7878 2 года назад +1

    Oil change for the clutches??

  • @carlatamanczyk3891
    @carlatamanczyk3891 3 года назад +4

    It's important to also take into consideration suspension set up and type of tires. I know that stock tires could be better on the Betas.
    And brakes work better on the Betas if you change to a different fluid. Stock fluid not the best.
    The Sherco is a premium bike but still lacks a good selection of aftermarket parts, etc.

    • @bobellisp5
      @bobellisp5 3 года назад +3

      the sherco factory model is fitted with some of the best parts on the market, so why would you want loads of aftermarket parts

    • @OrihuelaClubDeAlterne
      @OrihuelaClubDeAlterne 3 года назад

      The beta version is the motocross one also lol

  • @brysenjj785
    @brysenjj785 3 года назад +2

    Love your videos

  • @davidgrunklee8407
    @davidgrunklee8407 3 года назад +1

    Have you guys ridden a stock 21 sherco 250 in more technical terrain? Great job on the review! And best of luck at 6-days.

  • @michaeltaveras23
    @michaeltaveras23 Год назад

    Very good video guys!!! 👏🏽

  • @florenceflavien3970
    @florenceflavien3970 3 года назад +2

    old sherco with Sachs bumps (cheapest on holins bumps)is very good, and beta its cool,, SHERCO for sûre .from Nîmes France✌️🏼

  • @rasheedmujahid3796
    @rasheedmujahid3796 3 года назад +1

    Sherco250cc how much us$
    which one is better for you ?
    Beta vs Sherco?
    great video

  • @millerpb
    @millerpb 3 года назад +2

    great review

  • @worldwide1873
    @worldwide1873 4 месяца назад

    Which one would be better for a hare scramble/ gp?

  • @whiteelk6995
    @whiteelk6995 3 года назад +1

    What about hard enduro?

  • @Mach5Johnny
    @Mach5Johnny Месяц назад

    Sherco is basically the closest we’ll ever get to a Modern Day Bultaco.

  • @madsoothsayer
    @madsoothsayer Год назад

    Excellent video!

  • @bobbybecker8834
    @bobbybecker8834 3 года назад +2

    Even though these are two completely different bikes it's still a pretty solid, well put together review. But like I said, way different

  • @林道中毒
    @林道中毒 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful
    thank you.
    from Japan
    とても参考になる
    ありがとう。
    日本より

  • @HowToGetMoreMetal
    @HowToGetMoreMetal Год назад

    Great job

  • @madMX96
    @madMX96 3 года назад +3

    I do not need to watch, Sherco for me...as i have one :) Sherco is for sure better built and last longer than Beta...

    • @ThisGuyDrives
      @ThisGuyDrives 3 года назад

      Could you sound more bias?

    • @carlatamanczyk3891
      @carlatamanczyk3891 3 года назад

      And how did you come to that conclusion?

    • @madMX96
      @madMX96 3 года назад

      @@ThisGuyDrives truth that :)

    • @madMX96
      @madMX96 3 года назад

      @@carlatamanczyk3891 because we have lot of Shercos racing here in UK and riders love them...

    • @carlatamanczyk3891
      @carlatamanczyk3891 3 года назад

      @@madMX96 the Beta doesn't hold up to the racing you think?
      Our Betas are abused where I live through some pretty tough mountain use and they hold up quite well.

  • @claudsdeluca
    @claudsdeluca 3 года назад +10

    Pointless making the comparison when you aren't comparing the same size engines. You lost me at rating a 300 vs 250 on engine strength. Credibility lost instantly. Can't finish the video.

    • @kevinegbert1251
      @kevinegbert1251 3 года назад +1

      What if it was comparing the Sherco 250 to a Sherco 300?

    • @KoltFin
      @KoltFin 3 года назад +1

      Crazy how you can basically buy a cylinder,head,and piston to change it to a 300.

  • @burak827
    @burak827 Год назад

    Many thanks for the video guys, Could you let me know which one is fit for short and slim man?
    I am 173cm 74kg weight. I am a amateur rider 35 years old man. I rode 2018 Beta 250rr for 1 year. Zf black painted Standart forks was a bit hard for me. I did some clicks on forks. It did not work for me. It was still hard.

  • @salmonbum1066
    @salmonbum1066 2 года назад

    How many times did you guys say the word "however"?

  • @steliosapergis
    @steliosapergis 10 месяцев назад

    I think the comparison is not fair. if you exclude the brakes, the brembos were stronger, ok. in anything else since the cherco is set up with ohlins shock absorbers. no other comparison was to be made. three things play a role, the chassis, the shock absorbers, and the tires. so for me it was not an objective comparison of two companies, just two motorcycles that you happen to have in your possession. anyone who knows about machines will agree with me.

  • @everywherelocal
    @everywherelocal 3 года назад

    great clip 💪

  • @markstewart3516
    @markstewart3516 3 года назад +2

    So you do a wash on suspension because the Sherco has had suspension work but don't give an equals on motor performance between a 250 and 300.
    Either compare same CC bikes or don't compare power as much.
    Does the Beta still have a Radiator hose that will get cut by the pipe.

  • @bikersoncall
    @bikersoncall 2 года назад

    Midroll ads drive traffic away
    and lower 'Retention' scores.
    No one lets Midroll Ads run.
    I let opening and closing ads run, in
    support of content creators, and
    encourage others to do the same.
    I always close out any video when
    the midroll ads start appearing.

  • @cdr188
    @cdr188 3 года назад +3

    Detonating at idle? Cmon now. And anyone using the term "pre-detonation" is hard to take serious from a technical side.

    • @kevinegbert1251
      @kevinegbert1251 3 года назад +1

      Who do you think you are? Cody Webb’s mechanic?

  • @carlatamanczyk3891
    @carlatamanczyk3891 3 года назад +6

    Why are you comparing a 250 to a 300?

    • @kevinegbert1251
      @kevinegbert1251 3 года назад +2

      Because every Sherco 300 we’ve brought in all year has been pre sold before it hits our showroom floor.

    • @ThisGuyDrives
      @ThisGuyDrives 3 года назад +3

      You deaf? They made it very clear why.

  • @Madtigertv
    @Madtigertv 3 года назад +2

    Beta will be in the shop more.

    • @Madtigertv
      @Madtigertv 3 года назад

      Gee the 300 has more power... and is also the Motocross version. Great channel, good quality but comparing a mx bike vs a trail bike in the desert..with little real trails.meh.

  • @Dobemandan
    @Dobemandan 3 года назад +1

    So you're comparing a 250 vs 300. An MX vs Enduro bike.... And one with aftermarket suspension just to mix it up a bit.
    Pointless is an understatement. Sorry.
    Sherco for the win all day.

  • @jinovembelarmino9747
    @jinovembelarmino9747 2 года назад

    I wish i can have this bikes

  • @brycecampbell4845
    @brycecampbell4845 2 года назад

    The title listerally says "which bike is better"? But then you say the purpose is not to say which bike is better? Smh. The bike doesn't have feelings. Feel free to hurt them and let us know which one is better.

  • @my2cents395
    @my2cents395 3 года назад +1

    I would not throw either of these out of my bed.

  • @Erlov71
    @Erlov71 2 года назад +1

    Italy vs France

  • @peytonsucksatgaming3805
    @peytonsucksatgaming3805 3 года назад +1

    me a 13 year old not having a bike and knowing damn well i cant afford a old as 125 4 watching the whole thing making my decision

  • @dazpalmer5292
    @dazpalmer5292 2 года назад

    You talked about power delivery a lot and kept saying the beta is more blah blah. Errrr ye it’s a 300cc not a 250cc now get a 300cc sherco and do it all again.

  • @Studdfromhell
    @Studdfromhell 3 года назад

    U lost me at counter balancer added. Sorry true 2t riders want to feel the raw power. Not some tamed 2t. Grass roots is where it's at.

    • @warrenstemphly5756
      @warrenstemphly5756 3 года назад +3

      I expect Harley guys to comment in almost every motorcycle vid “ the Pan-head is the best and all I need” or something to that effect, I didn’t know that the same type existed in the dirt world.

    • @captainamerica9353
      @captainamerica9353 2 года назад +1

      Tom Perry , you may want to stick with a Vintage bike, then.

  • @mnovinger
    @mnovinger 3 года назад

    That sherco is an sc...not se...??????

    • @kevinegbert1251
      @kevinegbert1251 3 года назад +1

      It is a 2021 SE 250. They discontinued the SC line up in 2021. We deleted the headlight and added the Enduro Engineering number plate.

    • @mnovinger
      @mnovinger 3 года назад +1

      @@kevinegbert1251 oh got it...I just bought a 21 se 300....love it!!!

  • @woodsrider117
    @woodsrider117 3 года назад +1

    Ok the 300 rx is rare and an mx bike. The Sherco is a 250. It’s lame to try to compare so closely. The rx has a 19” rear wheel and the Sherco has an 18”. You should have at least compared the same 250 or 300 size motor. There should have been 18” rear wheels. It’s bs with tricked out ohlins onSherco. . I can’t finish watching this. It’s lame.

    • @utahdesertrider1806
      @utahdesertrider1806 3 года назад +1

      Agree that it was a strange comparison. Both very different. But these guys are great. I know you’re not a hater HawaiianDirtRider. You warned me a long time ago about the chat haters on thumper talk. Always appreciated that. 🤙🏽

  • @drugo5271
    @drugo5271 3 года назад +3

    beta beta beta beta beta beta beta

  • @rasheedmujahid3796
    @rasheedmujahid3796 3 года назад

    Iam muhammad Hafeez form pakistan

  • @RealLordkiffington
    @RealLordkiffington 11 месяцев назад

    KTM

  • @handendaer
    @handendaer 3 года назад +1

    ride two of ur buddies many ktm's, same model and or year but feels like totally different bikes. these fellas are...just sigh 🤡🥱