K D actually it’s not that bad when you get used to it and you move through them pretty fast after practice We don’t use the clutch to shift we just float all our gears and the H pattern makes it simple and in traffic we normally don’t use the smallest gear to roll or move I find it pretty fun honestly
Like he said you dont use half of them. And you dont always start in first gear. Theres 16 forward gears ( 1-8 H and L with splitter) reverse and the super low gear.
Truckers often don't have any special college training or degree, but they aren't idiots. They are like massive stunt drivers daily when driving down the mountains in Georgia, taking risky chances that can either make a paycheck or break your life into pieces! Respect these drivers!
Conner Deppe some do, so don't, I always give them priority where I can if I can even if I have priority. Don't wanna slow them down or inconvenience them in any form, I drive a Sprinter so I don't know how it is with trucks, but I think it's pretty lame to reduce speed then pick it back up with a truck especially if you are loaded
In Atlanta, where the roads are tight and narrow where people drive dangerously , truck drivers use plenty of intelligence everyday to maneuver safely everyday, so truck drivers are some of the most intelligent and amazing people I've ever met.
Conner Deppe There is endless disrespect and negative ideas regarding truckers. Some very silly at times. I have found the highest frequency of people trying to spread the good news gospel of Christianity at truck stops. Apparently that's where they think there is the largest concentration of sinners and heathens. And then there is the misconception that we sit around for hours at diners, that we plug up toilets more often than most, and we are always trying to abduct people, and use foul language. Ok, the foul language thing is true. Lol !
I dont understand why so many people are making jokes about him using his clutch. Its a tutorial for us newer drivers. Were not trained to float gears in driving school. This is why he has a seperate video that shows us how to float the gears for more experienced drivers.
An 18 speed is a 5 speed when your bobtail, an 8 speed when your loaded light, a 13 when your loaded average, and a 16 speed when your heavy. You only really use all 18 rare circumstances.
It has been a dream of mine to drive a big rig. My dad was a truck driver my entire life and we talked so much about being a father daughter driving team but the dream never happened. But, I've been thinking real hard about going to school to get my CDL. He made this look so easy.
Double clutch and downshifting like a boss hoss Dave! 👍. Great job. Not too many newbies understand the old school methodology which is sad. I was privileged enough to learn how to operate from a Veteran in the late 80’s. Hats off to you sir...
Im moving up from an 8 speed to an 18 speed and I was kinda nervous. After seeing this I feel so much better, its the same pattern, just an extra button on the shifter. Thank you for this!
I like the way you use your clutch. I've been driving now for 40 years and almost always use my clutch. I've rode with some guys who only know how to float the gears because no one ever taught them how to double clutch or even understand what it is. I've never had anything bad happen because I use the clutch all the time. You new guys just starting out, don't let anyone tell you that you have to learn to shift without the clutch. It will cover your mistakes and you won't get that awful klunk when your rpm's aren't exactly right.
Long ago my older brother bought a 1946 Ford pickup. It had a flathead six with a 4-speed non-synchromesh transmission. I learned all about double clutching while driving that truck. I drove over the road for a while. The automated transmissions were just starting to appear on the market. Anyway, all my instructors were impressed by how well I could shift the semi transmissions. I even drove some older fire trucks that had to be double-clutched. I always take the time to thank my older brother who taught me how to handle a non-synchromesh transmission way back when.
To all the rookies the splitter on the side of shift knob requires only 250 rpm whereas the regular gear change is 500 rpm. This makes a huge difference on a long and steep grade because you can keep the motor at a more powerful rpm. Also an 18 speed is really only needed for very heavy or off road applications. The 13 speed can only be split on the high range ie. 5th thru 8th Both are my favorite transmissions but i really only need the 13. Nice demo by the way.
But a 13 speed doesn't have a low hole like my 8LL has. (5 axle straight T800 KW 425 Cat dump truck ) I wish it did. I wish they made a 13 speed with LL or I wish I had ordered it with an 18 speed.
I tell yeah, when I drag 105,500lbs out of the rock quarry, I have split every gear coming out, you basically start on a hill. I usually don’t bother splitting low, I start in low, high range, then 1 low, split to high, shift to 2 low, split to high, then to 3 low.... you get the idea. It’s actually quite fun once you get the hang of it. Hell of a lot of work to get to 25 mph though.
He made it shifting soooo much easier with only splitting the final gear. I never knew you could do that. The other videos I watched they split all of tbe high range gears.
Thank you sir for this video. My father drove a semi for several years up until his death. Growing up, I used to love going on long hauls with him and watching this video reminded me of the time he taught me how to drive a 18 speed.
Tip to driver's with an 18. When you need just a little more speed when at low speeds like in a big parking lot I often split up 2nd or 3rd to avoid having to change gears. Works well and I often forget this even though I drive every day so figured I would mention it.
It was a pleasure to watch you shift with the clutch. I initially learned to drive by "floating the gears" but was re-educated by a seasoned professional. So many guys think that they are heroes because they can shift and not use the clutch. I can do this as well but have chosen not to. It is not a sign of weakness to use the clutch. If you tear a truck down after a million miles, a truck driven properly with the clutch will display a transmission in better condition, even if the driver has done a good job of "floating the gears". The additional wear on a release bearing and clutch plates will not be as expensive as transmission work.
We don't have these transmissions in these regions of the world, just god awful autoboxes. A pity Paccar can't supply Daf's in Europe with RoadRanger transmissions as they do in Australia.
I typically take full gear shifts, especially when I’m empty. Usually you don’t need to split anything up to at least 7th gear. Same down shifting, if you’re pulling a hard steep grade, take full step down shifts and the split the last one if you need to. Thanks for not saying star in 1, the split each one calling each shot a gear. Top hole is 8th high (or 8th over of you’re an OLD 13 spd guy). Top gear is not 18th. Appreciate your videos. Nice to see another old guy trying to make the industry better.
This might be the very best sounding engine that I've ever heard in my whole life, it's a c15 right? That deep growl and that subtle sad whine from the turbo! I watch this video every now and then just for the sound, I get goosebumps every time.
Thanks! I never really had an interest in driving a big rig, but now I want to drive one just to shift the transmission. Very comprehensive and thorough! I probably learned from you faster than anyone learns this in truck driving school. Granted, putting it into practice takes time, this was easy to follow.
Dave, you are a master and a good, commonsense presenter of information. I ground a lot of gears as a newbie but figured it out quick, because I had to. Never drove an 18 but I like the 13 and learned on a 10. The 13 and 18 are very similar. Remember drivers, it will make a difference how a transmission shifts based on how the engine revs. Dave seems to run Cats and they run at a lower RPM and are slower to wind up. Your truck may be running a an engine that has the power band at a higher RPM , just keep that in mind and pay attention to your Tachometer. Listen to your machine, it will show you what it likes.
Excellent video my friend! I have 25 years experience driving in Mexico and you are correct always take your time and use the clutch the way you explained I drive a 18 speed transmission I feel more comfortable driving a big truck than a pickup or car. My English is not very good but I do appreciate your videos. Saludos amigos.
Thank you Sir!!.. your video it is all best to learn "How to Shift an 18 Speed Transmission Like a Boss"... I love it!!... God bless you and your families in EEUU!... Best regards from Santiago of Chile, SouthAmerica!!!
After owning a truck with a 13, 15 and an 18 speed, I would never get a truck that doesnt have at least an 13 speed. I currently have a 13 speed and love it. Would love an 18 speed but I dont haul a lot of heavy freight so the 13 speed is just fine for me.
Kevin Morris ... My choice is the 13 speed hehind a 1900+torque engine. I did fewer shifts and got the best fuel milage with that outfit. Survivor of 1500 GW bridge crossings here , torque matters!
Hey thanks so much. I was about to pay my neighbor who is a trucker to drive me down the road, (for I am in trucking school and is about to get my CDL's) and wanted , eager to learn, and he said to put 50 dollars into his tank and he would, along with showing me how these shift... Well Well Lord and Behold~ Your Video came up when I RUclips this topic and (was on my way over with 5o bucks) and I went back over and told him no and then how I found you video on this topic and you explain it and he didn't say nothing, just turned and walked back inside..... .He was pissed.....HaHa.....I watched others, yours is the better one of videos! You ROck man~
When I was getting my CDL US Navy license back 25 years ago I had to double clutch and I was the only one in the class who could actually shift without grinding as I used the 18~21 rpm rule and it shifted like a dream. It was a eaton 10 speed and we had to go from a stop in 1st to 10th and back to a slow roll to first gear. I was always timid on those "big transmissions" for fear of mucking it all up. great video Dave as you make it look easy.
Miller Time you have to understand. Back then the old AM Generals used cummins, Detroit's, and of course those Mix-Burn engines. If it's the old 2 strokes then the 18~21 is actually what you want super trucker.
Thanks for this video. I started out a month ago after cdl school and my trucks a freightliner with the 18 speed and this video really helped calm my nerves. I am still learning but I'm gettin better. I just need to get quicker with downshifting and slowing down in the correct gears
Nice to see a double clutch. It's how I learned, seems smoother and easier than floating- maybe because it's all ive been doing. I'm still amazed to see those that float well.
Every driver I've ever known has never double clutched, including myself. We all float gears, I've always floated gears in my 12 years of driving. With that being said, 18 speed Eaton Fuller transmissions are by far the best transmissions you can put in a big rig. I love mine.
Back in the late 90's I worked for an outfit called I-Sim out of SLC Utah....We designed and built the 1st computer controlled shifting simulators, that could be programmed with up to 250K different combinations and the 1st 3D full motion driving simulators in the industry....At the time, we were competing with McDonnell Douglas (the Airplane Manufacturer) to get the first one, up and running....We got ours on the market first....It was known as the I-Sim Mark 7...It consisted of a 91 Ford Ranger truck cab, mounted on a series of Moog hydraulic cylinders & rams that reacted to the terrain and conditions portrayed on the 3D video screen surrounding the cab....I was one of the original 5 man crew that brought this, first of its kind technology into the transportation industry, thanks to probably one of the finest, most caring, foresighted man, this business has ever known....A gentleman named Roy Emery....A retired Consolidated Freightways (CF) life long driver....Who somehow convinced one of the worlds largest companies, Halliburton Inc. and educate every one of its CDL Drivers as to proper shifting, and driving techniques, for maximum safety, in any conditions they might encounter...And evaluate their skills, and reactions to multiple conflicts one might encounter behind the wheel, and how to correctly respond in a critical situation....This was one of the best jobs I ever had, in my 30 yrs of Professional Driving....The Patent was later purchased by General Electric and is now the GE-ISIM Simulator, used mostly for pursuit training at most Police Academy's world wide.....
Very informative! I have 19 years of experience but learning to drive an 18 speed has made me feel like a rookie all over again. It’s been humbling to say the least lol!
When I was in school I learned how to drive a semi-truck in a 10-speed International (manual), unfortunately, every trucking company that I've worked for ever since I got my CDL all had automatic trucks. I have what many call an automatic handicap. Smh, I'm so mad too because I recently lost out on a job hauling crude oil in the oilfields because of that. The company I'm going to work for this week hauling anhydrous ammonia in a chemical tanker has manual trucks, BUT, they have one automatic truck available for me. I think Imma challenge myself and jump into an automatic while at the yard and practice a bit. Wish me luck y’all. I'm gonna watch this video over probably a million times 😂.
Being a veteran and all,THAT'S where she pays OFF!! . Good job Buddy. You remind me alot of my instructor Ken Sparkes. Jus getting back in the "Saddle after ten years and was a little stressed out. Thanks for helping make that go away N.Savoie
Ive drove mostly 10 speeds but my Swift trainer was an owner operator and he had a 13 speed KW and I really liked driving it. Later after driving a couple of 10 speeds for a local company I ended up with an 18 speed Mack CL700. That Mack had some serious balls and I used it to pull a trailking tri axle lowboy. I often moved a 92,000 lbs crane house and that truck pulled it like a boss.
Great video you explain it better than they do at trucking school. They said shifting was way different and it was no longer an H pattern like a regular car. Love how you explained the foot work to go with it makes a lot more sense
I definitely feel much better about learning how to operate the 18 speed. Great video. When I first heard 18 speed it was a bit intimidating but I think I can handle with some some and patience.
I’ve been driving for 45 years. Started in 74, bought me a 75 Pete 359 with my life savings. She used to have a 400 Cummins pushing roughly 450HP, but at 1 million I swapped her to a series 60 Detroit. By far best engine I’ve ever had. She’s got 10 forward gears from the original road ranger. Detroit is rolling at 2.5 million pushing about 850 HP and not stopping anytime soon. I’ve also bought a 1994 Freightliner FLB cabover and decked it out with a 13 speed and series 60 Detroit pushing about 690 ish HP, and I just bought a 2016 W900L with a 550 Cummins and a 18 speed pushing about 1200HP. Geared high, I can be doing 55 in 6th in it. (Yes I know it’s about torque but I don’t have exact numbers)
Got my CDL in Texas last year. Officer giving test said I had to double clutch If I wanted to pass driving test. My teacher didn’t know how to double clutch so I had teach myself a couple of days before test. Glad I did or I wouldn’t have passed.
It was on-the-job training and my teacher was a lot younger than me. He was a good driver as far as maneuvering, backing, etc., just couldn’t double clutch or didn’t care to learn. Watching your video on double clutching got me past the test.
I thought I'd never figure these 18 speeds out - until the epiphany came!! I realized this is a simple H pattern shifter and bingo! I had it figured out. With a normal 80000 lb load, I don't use the splitter in low range but I do in high range on the upshift.I usually float the gears when upshifting. When downshifting, I go down to L on the splitter and then double clutch the gears down. It takes a bit of practice, but a bit of practice is all it takes.
I'm really surprised you use the clutch at all after takeoff??? After 40 years on the road, I can't remember the last time I ever "double-clutched". Learning to "float the gears" doesn't take long to master if you are mechanically-minded, and the reduction in wear on the complete clutch system is worth mentioning. I've been retired now for two years, and although I do miss rollin' down the road in my favorite K-Whopper, I don't miss the amount of lazy, inattentive drivers that now pack the highways. It was nice to run across your videos and listen to a good-ol' driver with common sense, throw out some advice and fun stories from the road. Did I tell ya the one about the two DOT trucks in the middle of the road.......ha, ha, ha..... some other time. Keep up the videos and good stories.
Been floating gears in cars and bikes for decades now. Never got behind a manual big truck but have driven a 30k single axle dump for years with an allison auto. From what Iv'e seen though I'd probably be a natural at it. If its anything like a car or bike it's all in feathering the throttle to sync the gears and a little pressure on the stick will let it slip right in nice and quiet.
Hmmm the clutch brake is to stop the transmission parts from spinning which they do if your idling, hence the need to stop the clutch and pressure plate so as to shift into gear without grinding.
As a licensed Diesel tech and a fuller transmission rebulder you are right to a certain point but. When you shit do not split at any time while you are in gear because the synchronization of the gears puts to much side pressure on all of the gears only shift the splitter when you are in the middle of the h pattern I know what I am taking about. But I do love your show please keep it up Tim.
Do this untill today.And i''m from 1988.Learned on one and got my driver license driving one after that did drivers license for manual bus.And i only go to companies that still own them.Getting hard to find companies using them it but i found one and i still enjoy this kind of driving over automatic.Trucker driving old 18 speed 800.000 mile truck every day in europe and keeping the princess automatic drivers behind me each time :P
blindabinda123 The super 10 trans is a normal 10 speed pattern, however instead of having a range splitter you only have the thumb splitter and first hole has 1/2 second hole has 3/4 third has 5/6 and so on.
Does anybody know how to shift a Mack super ten with the deep reduction on the dash? I never did figure out how to shift that reduction shifter without a very bad grind. Help !
I'm never going to need to know this information a day in my life. That being said, since learning to drive 5 and 6 speed transmissions, I've been interested in how the 18 speed ones work. It definitely seems like something to get used to, but you did a great job at explaining it. I just thought it might be the same pattern as a 6 speed except 18 times. I'm glad those two switches exist, because that seems a lot simpler than what I thought it would be.
I don't drive a truck myself, but have always been curious about this. Great informative video. The guy showing us the information seems super chill. Thanks for sharing.
Last wagon I was in was a W 900 Limited Edition, 725 kitty 🐱, 18 with 373 rears, pulled either a three axle equipment trailer or a 53 ft aluminum two Axel. Hauled heavy most every day.
That was amazing. What a great piece of information. I hope to one day be pro in 13-18 speeds. Auto is boring. Been doing it for 7 years and counting. I love your channel man 🇨🇦
Here in the good old USA and especially North Idaho. We shift on the fly! We don't need to look at the RPM or depress the clutch unless we are stopping and starting.
I haul bulk tanker. 12000 gallons of heating oil. I split gears all day long. Eaton Fuller got the transmissions most commonly used throughout the country I imagine. That and the Jake break are vital equipment.
I've noticed that the low range from 1st to 3rd depending on how heavy the trailer is and the road surface for example if it's hilly, I get them in gear quicker and smoother. After that just float them in
Hey dave i am a new generation guy i love watching your videos it has helped me through my career i know have an 18 speed and i was terrified and now impressed i can drive this and not be scared anymore i love learning something new every day ! And thank you for making such instructional videos its helpijy people in 2024 i am cool man wjen its time to work hopefull to meet ya one day ! ❤im 30 and still learning ten years in this
I’ve had my class 1 for a month now here in Alberta. My first load was 4’ wide and 8’ height pipe on a high boy trailer… got it all strapped down… the banding they had around it came off with in the first 15 mins of my drive. Second load was a full trailer of jersey barriers.. not a lick of gravel in these yards I went to , so there was some sliding lol Why I got my license in the winter in Alberta I will never know ahaha It’s been all in town work , downtown, rush hour. Man I don’t know how I survived my first month. Mind you I’ve been working for the company for 3 years now so I’m green but not green as grass I’d say lol
Right now I'm figuring out the basics of a 5&4. That's one of my favorite transmissions, but hard to drive right now. That's 20 gears I've got to figure out.
I was watching a Big Rig Video on U Tube the other day. Really pretty W900A out of Oklahoma with a custom bunk. 6+4. Man could that guy shift smoothly. Check that video out. Dave
I had the pleasure of operating a 68 Cline TD544...had the 5x3.. top end only got up to like 46mph. Talk about a fun trip comin across the 55 bridge here in Memphis...lmao She'd fire up on the first bump of the key in 12F.
I love driving manual vehicles. I haven't had one for a long time, but still prefer manual. I've always wanted to see how truck drivers shift those 18 speed transmissions. Thanks for sharing.
You're giving away the secret. Every other "How To Shift An 18-Speed" video shows the driver splitting every gear, making it seem waaayyy more complicated than it really is.
Yeah the vid that has the guy with handlebar mustache made it seem like it was splitting the atom hard. He even confused himself, this is a much better vid
I used too operate trains hauling commodities. I used every gear loaded. It’s no trouble, if you know what your doing. It’s also easier on the components when you operate in a sweet spot.
Double-clutching--Upshift--each takes one and a half seconds-reduce R P M by 25%. Downshift-still one and a half seconds but increase R P M by 1/3. Thus or new drivers I would put arrows on the tach--2100 minus 1/4 =1600. 1600 minus 1/4 =1200. 1200 minus 1/4 = 900. 900 minus 1/4=675--slower than idle speed. Thus students adapted quickly on level ground to take one. two or even three gears at one time. The European transmission is reduce by 1/3 for an upshift, increase by 1/2 for a downshift, being aware of the maximum and minimum R P M for this engine.
Driven everything but a 15 speed and 18 is my favorite...Had a Big compound turbo setup on A C-15 Acert. Truck was a Clydesdale.... and would hit 80 in a hurry when I wasn't connected to a trailer c'mon... been around trucks my whole life and really love it. Paved my own road by getting my license on my own. No bs company to hold me down for a year or two. On my 2nd year and can't get enough... happy trails and tread lightly
I just finished a class 1 course. You definitely have a gift for teaching..Go to the dragons den with class videos...with the shortage of drivers now...you'd cash out huge.Ive watched these videos to keep from from forgetting before i get a job...they work thx
To get the trans to mesh from 4-1 you would have to clutch into neutral rev the engine to probably like 2200rpms and then clutch into 1st. It just wouldn't happen. But would still be pretty crazy lol
Excellent video. That 18 speed is one of most versatile transmissions. I do like the 13 speed though. You can tell this ain’t your first rodeo. After 35 + years I still love truckin. Keep on truckin. 👍👍👍❤️
Finally someone on youtube that knows how to operate one of these properly the way they were designed !! You don't see much about the clutch brake either which is good to see too !! Are you an instructor by any chance sir ? G'day mate from Australia 👍
When I was getting my CDL at school I was having hard time learning double clutch, I knew how to drive and was taught floating gears until now I float gears just can't double clutch.
Im so happy i found this channel. I watch you regularly and because i figured before i started learning id start watching so i knew what to do thank you
Ahh, this must be the transmission Dom used in Fast and Furious
Frrrr🤣
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I feel for those guys in bad traffic or in hill traffic. 18 shifts man that’s tiring
K D actually it’s not that bad when you get used to it and you move through them pretty fast after practice
We don’t use the clutch to shift we just float all our gears and the H pattern makes it simple and in traffic we normally don’t use the smallest gear to roll or move
I find it pretty fun honestly
They skip gears
K D did u not watch the video lol he explained you’ll rarely have to use even half the gears
Like he said you dont use half of them. And you dont always start in first gear. Theres 16 forward gears ( 1-8 H and L with splitter) reverse and the super low gear.
You have no idea
Loved my 18 speed but after 5 million miles my knees couldn’t take any more shifting , had to get an automatic.
3am, tired asf, started by watching a vanoss, somehow ended up here...good day
Good day! Dave
Dude. I did exactly the same thing and it's exactly 3:12am 😂
I can’t believe people actually don’t respect these guys (truckers).
Truckers often don't have any special college training or degree, but they aren't idiots. They are like massive stunt drivers daily when driving down the mountains in Georgia, taking risky chances that can either make a paycheck or break your life into pieces! Respect these drivers!
Who doesn’t?
Conner Deppe some do, so don't, I always give them priority where I can if I can even if I have priority. Don't wanna slow them down or inconvenience them in any form, I drive a Sprinter so I don't know how it is with trucks, but I think it's pretty lame to reduce speed then pick it back up with a truck especially if you are loaded
In Atlanta, where the roads are tight and narrow where people drive dangerously , truck drivers use plenty of intelligence everyday to maneuver safely everyday, so truck drivers are some of the most intelligent and amazing people I've ever met.
Conner Deppe There is endless disrespect and negative ideas regarding truckers. Some very silly at times. I have found the highest frequency of people trying to spread the good news gospel of Christianity at truck stops. Apparently that's where they think there is the largest concentration of sinners and heathens. And then there is the misconception that we sit around for hours at diners, that we plug up toilets more often than most, and we are always trying to abduct people, and use foul language. Ok, the foul language thing is true. Lol !
I dont understand why so many people are making jokes about him using his clutch. Its a tutorial for us newer drivers. Were not trained to float gears in driving school. This is why he has a seperate video that shows us how to float the gears for more experienced drivers.
I thought the title read
“How to D R I F T an 18 speed”
I was extremely interested...
It's easy on ice! Dave
"one of the most common manual transmissions of the there"
An 18 speed is a 5 speed when your bobtail, an 8 speed when your loaded light, a 13 when your loaded average, and a 16 speed when your heavy. You only really use all 18 rare circumstances.
It has been a dream of mine to drive a big rig. My dad was a truck driver my entire life and we talked so much about being a father daughter driving team but the dream never happened. But, I've been thinking real hard about going to school to get my CDL.
He made this look so easy.
Double clutch and downshifting like a boss hoss Dave! 👍. Great job. Not too many newbies understand the old school methodology which is sad. I was privileged enough to learn how to operate from a Veteran in the late 80’s. Hats off to you sir...
I don’t know why I’m watching this. I drive a Mini Cooper
Prolly the same reason I am. I saw “18 Speed” and said hold up
Im moving up from an 8 speed to an 18 speed and I was kinda nervous. After seeing this I feel so much better, its the same pattern, just an extra button on the shifter. Thank you for this!
2:00am and I’m watching a vid on how to shift and 18 speed semi truck. Thanks algorithm
I like the way you use your clutch. I've been driving now for 40 years and almost always use my clutch. I've rode with some guys who only know how to float the gears because no one ever taught them how to double clutch or even understand what it is. I've never had anything bad happen because I use the clutch all the time. You new guys just starting out, don't let anyone tell you that you have to learn to shift without the clutch. It will cover your mistakes and you won't get that awful klunk when your rpm's aren't exactly right.
Long ago my older brother bought a 1946 Ford pickup. It had a flathead six with a 4-speed non-synchromesh transmission. I learned all about double clutching while driving that truck. I drove over the road for a while. The automated transmissions were just starting to appear on the market. Anyway, all my instructors were impressed by how well I could shift the semi transmissions. I even drove some older fire trucks that had to be double-clutched. I always take the time to thank my older brother who taught me how to handle a non-synchromesh transmission way back when.
To all the rookies the splitter on the side of shift knob requires only 250 rpm whereas the regular gear change is 500 rpm. This makes a huge difference on a long and steep grade because you can keep the motor at a more powerful rpm.
Also an 18 speed is really only needed for very heavy or off road applications. The 13 speed can only be split on the high range
ie. 5th thru 8th
Both are my favorite transmissions but i really only need the 13.
Nice demo by the way.
Thank you! Dave
But a 13 speed doesn't have a low hole like my 8LL has. (5 axle straight T800 KW 425 Cat dump truck ) I wish it did. I wish they made a 13 speed with LL or I wish I had ordered it with an 18 speed.
Im happy my honda is a 5 speed. This looks so stressful lol
I tell yeah, when I drag 105,500lbs out of the rock quarry, I have split every gear coming out, you basically start on a hill. I usually don’t bother splitting low, I start in low, high range, then 1 low, split to high, shift to 2 low, split to high, then to 3 low.... you get the idea. It’s actually quite fun once you get the hang of it. Hell of a lot of work to get to 25 mph though.
He made it shifting soooo much easier with only splitting the final gear. I never knew you could do that. The other videos I watched they split all of tbe high range gears.
I have an 18 speed in my 2019 W900. That is more clutching than I have used in my entire 50,000 miles. Your leg must be HUGE.
Thank you sir for this video. My father drove a semi for several years up until his death. Growing up, I used to love going on long hauls with him and watching this video reminded me of the time he taught me how to drive a 18 speed.
Tip to driver's with an 18. When you need just a little more speed when at low speeds like in a big parking lot I often split up 2nd or 3rd to avoid having to change gears. Works well and I often forget this even though I drive every day so figured I would mention it.
It was a pleasure to watch you shift with the clutch. I initially learned to drive by "floating the gears" but was re-educated by a seasoned professional. So many guys think that they are heroes because they can shift and not use the clutch. I can do this as well but have chosen not to. It is not a sign of weakness to use the clutch.
If you tear a truck down after a million miles, a truck driven properly with the clutch will display a transmission in better condition, even if the driver has done a good job of "floating the gears". The additional wear on a release bearing and clutch plates will not be as expensive as transmission work.
For drivers that love this type of gear shifting, these transmissions should always be available worldwide.
I hope they always are! Dave
We don't have these transmissions in these regions of the world, just god awful autoboxes. A pity Paccar can't supply Daf's in Europe with RoadRanger transmissions as they do in Australia.
I typically take full gear shifts, especially when I’m empty. Usually you don’t need to split anything up to at least 7th gear. Same down shifting, if you’re pulling a hard steep grade, take full step down shifts and the split the last one if you need to. Thanks for not saying star in 1, the split each one calling each shot a gear. Top hole is 8th high (or 8th over of you’re an OLD 13 spd guy). Top gear is not 18th. Appreciate your videos. Nice to see another old guy trying to make the industry better.
This might be the very best sounding engine that I've ever heard in my whole life, it's a c15 right? That deep growl and that subtle sad whine from the turbo! I watch this video every now and then just for the sound, I get goosebumps every time.
Thanks! I never really had an interest in driving a big rig, but now I want to drive one just to shift the transmission. Very comprehensive and thorough! I probably learned from you faster than anyone learns this in truck driving school. Granted, putting it into practice takes time, this was easy to follow.
It was so awesome to see an actual trucker doing such a cool vid, can't believe these guys don't get the respect they ought to get
Dave, you are a master and a good, commonsense presenter of information.
I ground a lot of gears as a newbie but figured it out quick, because I had to.
Never drove an 18 but I like the 13 and learned on a 10.
The 13 and 18 are very similar.
Remember drivers, it will make a difference how a transmission shifts based on how the engine revs.
Dave seems to run Cats and they run at a lower RPM and are slower to wind up.
Your truck may be running a an engine that has the power band at a higher RPM , just keep that in mind and pay attention to your Tachometer.
Listen to your machine, it will show you what it likes.
Exactly right! Dave
Excellent video my friend! I have 25 years experience driving in Mexico and you are correct always take your time and use the clutch the way you explained I drive a 18 speed transmission I feel more comfortable driving a big truck than a pickup or car. My English is not very good but I do appreciate your videos. Saludos amigos.
Seems good to me! Thanks Valentin! Dave
Thank you Sir!!.. your video it is all best to learn "How to Shift an 18 Speed Transmission Like a Boss"... I love it!!... God bless you and your families in EEUU!... Best regards from Santiago of Chile, SouthAmerica!!!
After owning a truck with a 13, 15 and an 18 speed, I would never get a truck that doesnt have at least an 13 speed. I currently have a 13 speed and love it. Would love an 18 speed but I dont haul a lot of heavy freight so the 13 speed is just fine for me.
Kevin Morris Well theres a point! And being lighter also makes it possible for the truck to brake quicker, so it also would make it safer i assume..?
hey looking to buy a 13 does it have 3 reverses like my 8LL i like low low reverse!
Kevin Morris ... My choice is the 13 speed hehind a 1900+torque engine. I did fewer shifts and got the best fuel milage with that outfit. Survivor of 1500 GW bridge crossings here , torque matters!
Kevin Morris oh really?
Hey thanks so much. I was about to pay my neighbor who is a trucker to drive me down the
road, (for I am in trucking school and is about to get my CDL's) and wanted , eager to learn, and
he said to put 50 dollars into his tank and he would, along with showing me how these shift...
Well Well Lord and Behold~ Your Video came up when I RUclips this topic and (was on my
way over with 5o bucks) and I went back over and told him no and then how I found you video
on this topic and you explain it and he didn't say nothing, just turned and walked back inside.....
.He was pissed.....HaHa.....I watched others, yours is the better one of videos! You ROck man~
When I was getting my CDL US Navy license back 25 years ago I had to double clutch and I was the only one in the class who could actually shift without grinding as I used the 18~21 rpm rule and it shifted like a dream. It was a eaton 10 speed and we had to go from a stop in 1st to 10th and back to a slow roll to first gear. I was always timid on those "big transmissions" for fear of mucking it all up. great video Dave as you make it look easy.
Alan Gee 18 to 21 is really high rpm I shift around 11 - 13 on my 3.42 gears
Thanks Alan! Dave
Miller Time you have to understand. Back then the old AM Generals used cummins, Detroit's, and of course those Mix-Burn engines. If it's the old 2 strokes then the 18~21 is actually what you want super trucker.
Thanks for this video. I started out a month ago after cdl school and my trucks a freightliner with the 18 speed and this video really helped calm my nerves. I am still learning but I'm gettin better. I just need to get quicker with downshifting and slowing down in the correct gears
Nice to see a double clutch. It's how I learned, seems smoother and easier than floating- maybe because it's all ive been doing. I'm still amazed to see those that float well.
Every driver I've ever known has never double clutched, including myself. We all float gears, I've always floated gears in my 12 years of driving. With that being said, 18 speed Eaton Fuller transmissions are by far the best transmissions you can put in a big rig. I love mine.
Back in the late 90's I worked for an outfit called I-Sim out of SLC Utah....We designed and built the 1st computer controlled shifting simulators, that could be programmed with up to 250K different combinations and the 1st 3D full motion driving simulators in the industry....At the time, we were competing with McDonnell Douglas (the Airplane Manufacturer) to get the first one, up and running....We got ours on the market first....It was known as the I-Sim Mark 7...It consisted of a 91 Ford Ranger truck cab, mounted on a series of Moog hydraulic cylinders & rams that reacted to the terrain and conditions portrayed on the 3D video screen surrounding the cab....I was one of the original 5 man crew that brought this, first of its kind technology into the transportation industry, thanks to probably one of the finest, most caring, foresighted man, this business has ever known....A gentleman named Roy Emery....A retired Consolidated Freightways (CF) life long driver....Who somehow convinced one of the worlds largest companies, Halliburton Inc. and educate every one of its CDL Drivers as to proper shifting, and driving techniques, for maximum safety, in any conditions they might encounter...And evaluate their skills, and reactions to multiple conflicts one might encounter behind the wheel, and how to correctly respond in a critical situation....This was one of the best jobs I ever had, in my 30 yrs of Professional Driving....The Patent was later purchased by General Electric and is now the GE-ISIM Simulator, used mostly for pursuit training at most Police Academy's world wide.....
Great story! Thank you! Dave
Very informative! I have 19 years of experience but learning to drive an 18 speed has made me feel like a rookie all over again. It’s been humbling to say the least lol!
Have never even been in a hauler but this actually gave me an idea of how an 18 speed transmission works... great video...
When I was in school I learned how to drive a semi-truck in a 10-speed International (manual), unfortunately, every trucking company that I've worked for ever since I got my CDL all had automatic trucks. I have what many call an automatic handicap. Smh, I'm so mad too because I recently lost out on a job hauling crude oil in the oilfields because of that.
The company I'm going to work for this week hauling anhydrous ammonia in a chemical tanker has manual trucks, BUT, they have one automatic truck available for me. I think Imma challenge myself and jump into an automatic while at the yard and practice a bit. Wish me luck y’all.
I'm gonna watch this video over probably a million times 😂.
Being a veteran and all,THAT'S where she pays OFF!! . Good job Buddy. You remind me alot of my instructor Ken Sparkes. Jus getting back in the "Saddle after ten years and was a little stressed out. Thanks for helping make that go away N.Savoie
Ive drove mostly 10 speeds but my Swift trainer was an owner operator and he had a 13 speed KW and I really liked driving it. Later after driving a couple of 10 speeds for a local company I ended up with an 18 speed Mack CL700. That Mack had some serious balls and I used it to pull a trailking tri axle lowboy. I often moved a 92,000 lbs crane house and that truck pulled it like a boss.
Thanks for the time and effort you put into this!
Hey, thank you! Dave
Great video you explain it better than they do at trucking school. They said shifting was way different and it was no longer an H pattern like a regular car. Love how you explained the foot work to go with it makes a lot more sense
That old girl sound good
Yeah, she does. Just a stock Cat. Dave
Whats her name? (the official truck name)
I drive one all the time. You gave the best instruction I've heard. Nice job.
I definitely feel much better about learning how to operate the 18 speed. Great video. When I first heard 18 speed it was a bit intimidating but I think I can handle with some some and patience.
I’ve been driving for 45 years. Started in 74, bought me a 75 Pete 359 with my life savings. She used to have a 400 Cummins pushing roughly 450HP, but at 1 million I swapped her to a series 60 Detroit. By far best engine I’ve ever had. She’s got 10 forward gears from the original road ranger. Detroit is rolling at 2.5 million pushing about 850 HP and not stopping anytime soon. I’ve also bought a 1994 Freightliner FLB cabover and decked it out with a 13 speed and series 60 Detroit pushing about 690 ish HP, and I just bought a 2016 W900L with a 550 Cummins and a 18 speed pushing about 1200HP. Geared high, I can be doing 55 in 6th in it. (Yes I know it’s about torque but I don’t have exact numbers)
THIS hands down is the best video I've seen on RUclips teaching me how to shift a big rig! Thank You!
Got my CDL in Texas last year. Officer giving test said I had to double clutch If I wanted to pass driving test. My teacher didn’t know how to double clutch so I had teach myself a couple of days before test. Glad I did or I wouldn’t have passed.
CDL test in Virginia's the same way, if you don't double clutch, you fail.
So I had to unlearn some things and double clutched my way to a class A.
Your teacher didn't know!!
It was on-the-job training and my teacher was a lot younger than me. He was a good driver as far as maneuvering, backing, etc., just couldn’t double clutch or didn’t care to learn. Watching your video on double clutching got me past the test.
This is the most American thing I’ve seen all day.
Helber Galinda sounds Canadian to me
except it's Canadian
I thought I'd never figure these 18 speeds out - until the epiphany came!! I realized this is a simple H pattern shifter and bingo! I had it figured out. With a normal 80000 lb load, I don't use the splitter in low range but I do in high range on the upshift.I usually float the gears when upshifting. When downshifting, I go down to L on the splitter and then double clutch the gears down. It takes a bit of practice, but a bit of practice is all it takes.
You must have a left leg stronger than Superman.
I’ve watched a lot of these video but I could tell you this is the only one that explain the way to shift an 18 speed transmission👍👍
Glad it helped! Dave
Great seeing someone teach how to properly use the clutch. So many guys try float shifting and have no idea the damage it causes. 18/18 video
never driven a truck in my life. but this video sure gives me the confidence to try it out.
really good video!
Good, try it out, and thanks! Dave
I'm really surprised you use the clutch at all after takeoff??? After 40 years on the road, I can't remember the last time I ever "double-clutched". Learning to "float the gears" doesn't take long to master if you are mechanically-minded, and the reduction in wear on the complete clutch system is worth mentioning. I've been retired now for two years, and although I do miss rollin' down the road in my favorite K-Whopper, I don't miss the amount of lazy, inattentive drivers that now pack the highways. It was nice to run across your videos and listen to a good-ol' driver with common sense, throw out some advice and fun stories from the road. Did I tell ya the one about the two DOT trucks in the middle of the road.......ha, ha, ha..... some other time. Keep up the videos and good stories.
Thanks Greg! I want to hear about the DOT trucks! Dave
Been floating gears in cars and bikes for decades now. Never got behind a manual big truck but have driven a 30k single axle dump for years with an allison auto. From what Iv'e seen though I'd probably be a natural at it. If its anything like a car or bike it's all in feathering the throttle to sync the gears and a little pressure on the stick will let it slip right in nice and quiet.
egykilenckilenchet absolutely true!
Nope I don't that harm s the Tran s
I always wanted to know how you guys shifted so many gears, much respect to the job truckers do. Thanks for the informative video sir!
Hmmm the clutch brake is to stop the transmission parts from spinning which they do if your idling, hence the need to stop the clutch and pressure plate so as to shift into gear without grinding.
As a licensed Diesel tech and a fuller transmission rebulder you are right to a certain point but. When you shit do not split at any time while you are in gear because the synchronization of the gears puts to much side pressure on all of the gears only shift the splitter when you are in the middle of the h pattern I know what I am taking about. But I do love your show please keep it up Tim.
I had to read that twice. LOL on the spelling mistake!
Got class A cdl when I was 21 & was floating gears the first day. Very easy. rarely used the clutch
Do this untill today.And i''m from 1988.Learned on one and got my driver license driving one after that did drivers license for manual bus.And i only go to companies that still own them.Getting hard to find companies using them it but i found one and i still enjoy this kind of driving over automatic.Trucker driving old 18 speed 800.000 mile truck every day in europe and keeping the princess automatic drivers behind me each time :P
great video bud eaton fuller are geat ive first learnd off a supper ten in a older mack.two thumbs up on the video bud
Thanks Doug! Dave
yw any time bud
Is the super ten the tranny where 3rd and 4th are swapped around. I think they call it a horse shoe pattern
blindabinda123 The super 10 trans is a normal 10 speed pattern, however instead of having a range splitter you only have the thumb splitter and first hole has 1/2 second hole has 3/4 third has 5/6 and so on.
Does anybody know how to shift a Mack super ten with the deep reduction on the dash? I never did figure out how to shift that reduction shifter without a very bad grind. Help !
Much respect to truck drivers at every stop to go. Look at all those dials
its 18th gear, and suddenly got red light.
His knee : ah here we go again
I'm never going to need to know this information a day in my life. That being said, since learning to drive 5 and 6 speed transmissions, I've been interested in how the 18 speed ones work. It definitely seems like something to get used to, but you did a great job at explaining it. I just thought it might be the same pattern as a 6 speed except 18 times. I'm glad those two switches exist, because that seems a lot simpler than what I thought it would be.
I don't drive a truck myself, but have always been curious about this. Great informative video. The guy showing us the information seems super chill.
Thanks for sharing.
Last wagon I was in was a W 900 Limited Edition, 725 kitty 🐱, 18 with 373 rears, pulled either a three axle equipment trailer or a 53 ft aluminum two Axel. Hauled heavy most every day.
That was amazing. What a great piece of information. I hope to one day be pro in 13-18 speeds. Auto is boring. Been doing it for 7 years and counting.
I love your channel man 🇨🇦
Here in the good old USA and especially North Idaho. We shift on the fly! We don't need to look at the RPM or depress the clutch unless we are stopping and starting.
I haul bulk tanker. 12000 gallons of heating oil. I split gears all day long.
Eaton Fuller got the transmissions most commonly used throughout the country I imagine.
That and the Jake break are vital equipment.
SCHY MARK ... did hazmat tank.. loved the 13 speed with 1950 ft lb torque isx. Low rpm torque! Sweet...
Love that transmission
Appreciate that refresher. These big companies are spoiling the fun with these automatics
Him: I have a 18 speed transmission
Me: *loughs in 22 speeds*
Out of all of the videos ive watched for truck shifting.yours is the best explaned.good work buddy.
Nothing's easier than just floating every gear, it's all about rpm's
5.7L Hemi right only clutch coming out 1st!
I've noticed that the low range from 1st to 3rd depending on how heavy the trailer is and the road surface for example if it's hilly, I get them in gear quicker and smoother. After that just float them in
Hey dave i am a new generation guy i love watching your videos it has helped me through my career i know have an 18 speed and i was terrified and now impressed i can drive this and not be scared anymore i love learning something new every day ! And thank you for making such instructional videos its helpijy people in 2024 i am cool man wjen its time to work hopefull to meet ya one day ! ❤im 30 and still learning ten years in this
Beautiful tutorial, massive massive help. Thank you
I’ve had my class 1 for a month now here in Alberta. My first load was 4’ wide and 8’ height pipe on a high boy trailer… got it all strapped down… the banding they had around it came off with in the first 15 mins of my drive. Second load was a full trailer of jersey barriers..
not a lick of gravel in these yards I went to , so there was some sliding lol
Why I got my license in the winter in Alberta I will never know ahaha
It’s been all in town work , downtown, rush hour. Man I don’t know how I survived my first month.
Mind you I’ve been working for the company for 3 years now so I’m green but not green as grass I’d say lol
Lo is nice rollin out of a dead stop with some steep grade and I hardly ever use the clutch , just find that sweet spot and float er in
I love the 18 speed Transmission, I drove it for years and never had any problems and also 13 speed too
Right now I'm figuring out the basics of a 5&4. That's one of my favorite transmissions, but hard to drive right now. That's 20 gears I've got to figure out.
I was watching a Big Rig Video on U Tube the other day. Really pretty W900A out of Oklahoma with a custom bunk. 6+4. Man could that guy shift smoothly. Check that video out. Dave
I was weaned in the 5&4, later hauling heavy equipment had 6&4, pretty much old school I loved the older trucks, I guess it shows how old I am
I had the pleasure of operating a 68 Cline TD544...had the 5x3.. top end only got up to like 46mph. Talk about a fun trip comin across the 55 bridge here in Memphis...lmao
She'd fire up on the first bump of the key in 12F.
Ahh cool! Duplex i assume?
i loved my 5&4 its slick havent driven one in 18years though
I love driving manual vehicles. I haven't had one for a long time, but still prefer manual. I've always wanted to see how truck drivers shift those 18 speed transmissions. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Doug! I was waiting to see if you were going to mention or show the Tac, and RPM's for shifting up and down. Enjoyed the video!
Thank you sir! And it's Dave.
Great video and you remind me of my first trainer I had with over 20yrs. experience and lot of good information and stories.
You're giving away the secret. Every other "How To Shift An 18-Speed" video shows the driver splitting every gear, making it seem waaayyy more complicated than it really is.
Yeah the vid that has the guy with handlebar mustache made it seem like it was splitting the atom hard. He even confused himself, this is a much better vid
I used too operate trains hauling commodities. I used every gear loaded. It’s no trouble, if you know what your doing. It’s also easier on the components when you operate in a sweet spot.
Double-clutching--Upshift--each takes one and a half seconds-reduce R P M by 25%. Downshift-still one and a half seconds but increase R P M by 1/3. Thus or new drivers I would put arrows on the tach--2100 minus 1/4 =1600. 1600 minus 1/4 =1200. 1200 minus 1/4 = 900. 900 minus 1/4=675--slower than idle speed. Thus students adapted quickly on level ground to take one. two or even three gears at one time. The European transmission is reduce by 1/3 for an upshift, increase by 1/2 for a downshift, being aware of the maximum and minimum R P M for this engine.
Driven everything but a 15 speed and 18 is my favorite...Had a Big compound turbo setup on A C-15 Acert. Truck was a Clydesdale.... and would hit 80 in a hurry when I wasn't connected to a trailer c'mon... been around trucks my whole life and really love it. Paved my own road by getting my license on my own. No bs company to hold me down for a year or two.
On my 2nd year and can't get enough... happy trails and tread lightly
Currently 4:30 and I have no clue why I’m here...oh wait YT recommended it to me. But a very interesting vid😁
Thank you!!
I just finished a class 1 course. You definitely have a gift for teaching..Go to the dragons den with class videos...with the shortage of drivers now...you'd cash out huge.Ive watched these videos to keep from from forgetting before i get a job...they work thx
This video grinds my gears
Actually in the market to buy an 18 speed transmission so this video was very helpful, thanks x
Imagine forgetting to split the gears and hitting that 4-1 downshift
Andrew Hernandez 8-5*
To get the trans to mesh from 4-1 you would have to clutch into neutral rev the engine to probably like 2200rpms and then clutch into 1st. It just wouldn't happen. But would still be pretty crazy lol
Excellent video. That 18 speed is one of most versatile transmissions. I do like the 13 speed though. You can tell this ain’t your first rodeo. After 35 + years I still love truckin. Keep on truckin. 👍👍👍❤️
You too Don! Take care!
To me I liked a top hung clutch pedal like KW and Mack’s had better than the bottom type like Pete’s and Freight Shakers.
Finally someone on youtube that knows how to operate one of these properly the way they were designed !! You don't see much about the clutch brake either which is good to see too !!
Are you an instructor by any chance sir ?
G'day mate from Australia 👍
When I was getting my CDL at school I was having hard time learning double clutch, I knew how to drive and was taught floating gears until now I float gears just can't double clutch.
Im so happy i found this channel. I watch you regularly and because i figured before i started learning id start watching so i knew what to do thank you