New 718 Cayman GT4 4.0 review - all the Porsche you'd want?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- This is the new 718 Cayman GT4 4.0, a car Porsche probably doesn't make money from. In this review Jonny Smith struggles to work out why you would pay the £10k extra for a base model 992 911, or the £35,000 extra to join the back of the queue for the Cayman GT4 RS (released on the day of this shoot at the LA Autoshow) when the naturally aspirated, manual gearboxed GT4 is such an exhilarating and satisfyingly simple car to live with.
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The GT4 uses an adapted version of the 911 992 3.0 block, bored out and without the turbocharging. It delivers 420PS (414bhp) and 420nm of torque, but above 4500rpm - right around to 8000rpm is where the difference is felt. You can order the GT4 as a 6spd manual or 7spd PDK, whereas the RS can only be ordered with the latter 2 pedal set up. The GT4 has 50% more downforce than the previous 3.8 GT4 (which was manual only) and is quicker around that big green hell German toll road than the Carrera GT V10 of 2004. It's as quick as the 997 911 GT3 4.0, which was launched 10 years ago and is probably worth double most of our houses by now.
So at £75k you are being offered Cayman practicalities, balance and semi-balljointed suspension/ giant 380mm brakes taken almost directly from the GT3 911. Yet GT3s are far more expensive. And how badly do you want that 2+2 seating arrangement?
The manual GT4 is 1mph faster than the PDK equipped version, but 0.5 sec down o. 0-62. Can you feel it? No. Does seat time in the GT4 make Jonny feel like this is every bit what you'd want from a performance, naturally aspirated sports Porsche? Absolutely. The RS has extra lairy styling, extra lightness and extra power but you have to question whether we really need it. Especially when the price point with this car as tested is so.... well... Bargainous. Relatively speaking.
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#porschecaymangt4rs #caymangt4review #thelatebrakeshow #718caymangt4rs
I’ve seen many reviews of the GT4 since it’s launch, but I think this is one of the best. Unpretentious, honest and professional. I completely agree with Johnny - if you’re going to buy this car for the joy of driving, ease off the options pedal and keep it simple and attainable. Well done Johnny and the LBS team! ✊🏽
Neil, hugely appreciate the comment. Many thanks.
@ Yes I have, and I prefer Johnny’s review over Matt’s
@@neiljoseph904 agreed.
Agreed. Brilliant down to earth review. Really went into the details that the average driver can relate to.
Or just buy the GTS ;-)
Most reviews are in two parts. Stand in front of the car and talk features, then ‘let’s go take it for a drive’. The way Jonny mixes things up makes it such a better experience.
I don't think I have ever seen a RUclips video with no dislikes! This says a lot about your refreshing style Jonny - not trying to be a comedian all the time, just informative and entertaining. I can't afford a GT4. It took me 2 years to find a 981 Cayman S with manual box and leather dash; I will never sell it.
"it's not just wanky" definitely need to use that more in engineering meetings at work this week
Absolutely the best review of this .. so in depth and engaging.
There's a real feel of quality, attention to detail and pride when it comes to these videos.
Keep this up Johnny, it's a pleasure to watch these ICE reviews 💯 🇬🇧 👍🏻
Loved the video as always. My favourite thing about you Jonny is that you haven't changed your style of reviewing. Very informative and so relaxed. I watch your old fifth gear content all the time, I love it.
Cheers James, really kind of you. Welcome aboard TLBS.
I have this car. Just bought it last week and it is fantastic. It handles anything I throw at it, sounds amazing and is a rush to drive. Buy it.
My next Porsche
Congrats!
Weldone bro. I m still grinding 💪
Nice man! Do you also have the alcantara wheel? The only downside of a alcantara steeringwheel is that after a while it feels like some fat blokes hairy back, covered in oreo’s.. 😄
@@eggbirdtherooster Ahahahahaha
You really made me want one of these now, Jonny! I was lucky enough to be invited to the press launch of the first generation Cayman in Tuscany many years ago, and was blown away by the handling of the Cayman S, but it felt a bit held back by its engine - likely because it HAD to sit below the current 911 in terms of specs and abilities. Now, with the GT4 (and the RS), it seems Porsche is finally letting this car show its full potential :-) I think you hit the nail on the head in your summary - this could be peak Porsche. And you should definitely get one! :-) Great review!
Did you get one??
Once again, a stellar review of a stellar piece of automotive design and execution. Love the camera work as well!
I think generally the Cayman is the most attractive non-EV Porsche, no matter what model you go for.
Great review Johnny! I appreciate your emphasis on simplicity - I think that’s the Porsche’s legacy DNA. Also really enjoy your comparisons to the 911 line and where it has gone.
I love the fact the rear wing is functional and 'not just wanky' ! 😂
Great dynamic real world review.👌
Jonny, you said something that really sang to me: this engine is worth burning fuel for. I totally get it. I think you’ve nailed it there. I’m a big fan of my Golf GTE and my soon-to-be ID.3 and I’ve been kinda wondering why we’d even bother having piston engines anymore, but this car represents why. Cheers matey
I appreciate your emotion in last few minutes, you showed you care about the future of motoring & it's not all about electric, pile of nuts & bolts with a petrol engine can give pure joy & pleasure, Rj in Oz
What a relief to see a Jonny Smith review of my current favourite attainable (ish) Porsche. You want to watch yourself Jonny, you're becoming a go-to for down to earth, unpretentious reviews.
Thank you v much! Welcome aboard TLBS.
Love the passion in your review Johnny! Excellent audio this time too. I think you convinced all of us, this IS a great car!
Love this video. 5:04 is the exact question I asked myself.
What makes this review so damn good, is Jonny is one of us, he's not racing driver. He doesn't hang the tail out on a track to show how much better he is than us, he tells you about the car in real world scenarios. His narrative shows us we don't have to be intimidated and think we'll all end up in a tree, and we can enjoy the analog thrill of a piston car while we can. OTSOT
Cheers Scott.
No doubt about it Johnny you always keep it engaging , informative & honest & I love the sheer variety of vehicles you cover.
Hands down thee best review of a gt4 I’ve seen. Makes me want one more and more
Great honest review. I’ve got a cayman base 987 and it puts a smile on face before I even drive, just the anticipation of driving to go a get a pint of milk is enough. If it was my money, I think I’d just go for the Gts, put a rear wing on and save the difference
Absolutely brilliant review, mate. Thanks for taking us through the GT4 journey.
My 5 year old Cayman GTS still makes me smile. Fabulous machines indeed.
A great review/video. Honest, factual opinions and I like that you use a book for reference. Why waste time trying to remember everything when your notes will suffice. Good work.
Such a good review Johnny, thank you! Agree with pretty much everything you said. Love the late brake show it is like a real car enthusiast buddy, a car journalist and a car show all rolled into one. If I won the lottery the GT4 would be the one for me too, however in the real world I can't help thinking the Cayman GTS would give you most of the enjoyment for even less cash. Maybe one day!
I agree and would even go further with my “real world compromises” and make it the Boxster version too. Roof off perfection.
Nice one! Great review, super thoughtful and you hit the nail on the head, it’s how it drives, not the stats
Genuine enthusiasm can never be forced, well demonstrated Jonny! Great review of a staggeringly good Porsche👏😀👍.
No idea why I watch reviews of Cars I cannot buy but for the first time, some one explained all the version of Cayman in a very layman terms. Thanks a ton for that.
This sits right up on my possibly stainable dream car list! It ticks all the boxes
Your review is splendid Johnny, yet again. So eau naturel and on point.
Just sold my 997.2 GT3 - I was going to have a Porker break then watched this, now have a GT4 and no regrets 😁😎👌
Your content is the naturally aspirated manual drive we were all looking for. Thanks for the awesome review, even if I don't get one I was entertained and informed. You're the best!
Many thanks. Appreciated.
@@TheLateBrakeShowJonny - if you fancy driving the GT4 RS let me know
Love your down-to-earth, no-bullshit review and rationale on why a Cayman is better than a 911 on country roads. You're up there with Henry Catchpole in delivering quality motoring journalism. Would love to see you review an iconic Caterham 7
Fab car, fab review and fab production, knocked it out of the park again Jonny.
I am fortunate and grateful to own a 718 GT4, also lucky enough that to run a new 992 Turbo Cab, give me the GT4 anytime, they are such a precision machine, look awesome, sound great and explode your senses. Well done Jonny, great honest review of an absolute stunning road going and track car, your summary of the overall ownership balance is spot on!
Many thanks for watching Keith. Great car choices too.
Laughed way more than I should have done at the cut shot to Jonny in the front boot. The beard on jacket head twist sound caught by the mic added another level too. Another great review, Mr Smith
Not even 30 seconds in and you have me interested in this review well done, subscribed.
Why thank you v much. Welcome on board TLBS.
I’d have it in some kind of colour (probably green) but apart from that I’d have it as is! I agree the 911 is getting too big; perhaps Porsche can at least freeze the size for the next iteration? I love the enthusiasm Great video!
Great review Jonny! Love your laid-back, honest style! All the best! 👍
Possibly the best review ever, Johnny keep the content coming please 👌
If you’re going to deliver accurate and thoughtful reviews like this, I’m just going to have to like and subscribe.
Best GT4 video I’ve ever seen. Should make one on the base car. This is why I am on RUclips.
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Your enthusiasm for the Gt 4 comes across loud and clear great video Johnny
Meticulously prepared and presented. Bravo Jonny
Always a pleasure watching your reviews Jonny. My testicles are currently enjoying a 981 Cayman S (Manual). The GT4 is next.
+1... @ 17:00 minutes is a snap-shot of Jonny Smith sitting inside of the Cayman's frunk tub.
Needs to be a full-sized poster of The Late Brake Show. .. Someone,, make it happen. ..
Cheers, M/S .. Vail, Colorado
What a masterpiece rewiev ❤ I completely agree with you Johnny that 911 is starting to get too big for the fun roads as little brother is the fun option Thank you for this time ........ masterpiece ❤
Great road test, I get the feeling if "Richard Porter" was to do an article on Jonny it would be based on Jonny falling in love with a car as they took bits away from it. No buttons on steering wheel, love it. Smaller wheels, love it. No indicators, love it. No bonnet, love it.
Fantastic review Jonny! As per my comments on your Insta, now please do a video on the 981 GT4 with carbon buckets. Even more visceral, better sounding, better clutch feel...and...CHEAPER! They are a total bargain at the moment...they won't be for long...Thanks again for your excellent content on this channel and on Smith and Sniff.
Mate this is one of the best car reviews I have seen! Perfect amount of info. Entertainment and your passion is clear to see!
Keep up the good work 🤜
I continue to thoroughly enjoy your reviews! What other journalist will sit in the boot to make a point! Priceless! Finally subscribed. Thank you.
This review deserves my comment.
It's just sensible and bloody good, a bit like the car, but somehow even better.
I think that's possibly the best looking Porsche yet. Were I to have that kind of money to spend on a new car, that would be top of what I'd want.
Great review Johnny!
Great video Jonny, feels like this and cars such as the Aston V12 Vantage are ones to keep and then hand down to the children and grandchildren one day
Nice one Jonny, I think that's a superb car, also I like the simplicity side of things, there's something to be said for pure simple driving pleasure 👍👍 MEC
Loved the review and car!! Spotted it was filmed near Swindon Wanborough Lambourne area. 😎
Another great review! Here's the thing though, the case you built for why the Cayman GT4 is the best car in their lineup is also true for the Cayman GTS. So it would be the Cayman GTS for me (if I can ever afford one that is).
I agree and do have one of those My third! (see my channel)
No nose scraping, not milage sensitive and no rose jointed suspension, which makes it a nice daily.
Well worth saving up for 🤓
@@DontPanicDear Mileage sensitive? Not all car people buy cars with resale value in mind. There are some real enthousiasts who buy these cars to enjoy as much as they can without the worry of mileage. More miles = more fun! In my opinion; if you are to worried about mileage and resale value then you went above your car budget.
@@Franzino
GT4 is more milage sensitive than GTS that’s all.
I’m one of those people you mention, so if I could afford one, that factor alone wouldn’t put me off.
As a daily though, it can add significantly cost per mile of ownership, which will always be a factor to some and worth mentioning.
@Marc you’re right the GTS is. The base 718 2.0 is the best too, when compared with any other 2.0 spots car, so no matter which Cayman one buys, you are buying the best. Within the Cayman range, I still say the base is best bang for buck. Best one in range? No the one you own is, cos no matter what, Cayman is just brilliant.
@@DontPanicDear I understand what you mean; but a GT4 as a daily is certainly something I would not do. Me for example; I will probably one day get a (used) GT4 and when I have it, then I will probably not sell it the first 10 years (or maybe even never sell it). So for me; mileage is not an issue because I keep all my cars a long time (I rarely change cars). I sold my Z4M after driving it for 8 years with 160.000km and could not have cared less (it was pure enjoyment those miles).
Mileage is more an issue for people who keep cars a short periode of time and need most of that resale money to buy the next one. If I can not comfortable afford a GT4 or need to worry about mileage, then I would never buy it. Makes no sense to me (personal opinion) ;)
Fully agree with your comment about the flat four Cayman's.
I had the chance to try a manual Cayman T, the chassis is amazing and so is the shifter! It sounds rather aggressive above 5500rpm, but below that it sounds like a tuned Beetle and not in a good way...
I think it would look great in silver. Great review Jonny.
Great car. Some of these GT4 are being advertised at over list, so not quite a bargain yet. Perhaps the last 4.0l GT4 Cayman if the next model is electric only.
My brother has a blue GT4 and as a passenger it’s the best performance car I’ve been in. Goodwood track day was phenomenal
Agree 100%….best Porsche currently available, for looks and performance, from a great package, fantastic review as well…👍🇮🇲💪
A very nice review. Your passion for cars and Porsche in particular is noticed and appreciated. I own a 718 GT4 with PDK and am in line for the GT4 RS. If for some reason I can’t get that RS…I can certainly live with what I have with no problem. This car is an amazing work of art.
Great review. I just put a deposit on a Giards red 71 plate manual. Get it in a couple of weeks. So if your video wears out you'll know who to blame.
Excellent review......lovely practical weapon to take for a blast. Sleeping beasts in a garage that are easily woken up.
GTS is definitely the one to have in the UK on our bumpy B roads, even the gt4 isn't compliant enough, it's well crashy on the roads where I live anyway.
Yes. Just adding more expensive components to a car does not necessarily make it better for a given purpose. If you are one of the tiny number of people who will use an £80K car to drive regularly on the track, then the Cayman GT4 is excellent value compared to the GT3 911. If you want a car to drive exclusively on the road, like almost everyone, then a GTS is better value because it's a better pure road car, and substantially less expensive
@@harryspeakup8452
I agree.
It’s the rose joints that spoil the GT4!for me as a daily.
They really do make me wince over imperfect surfaces. CLACK CLACK as metal on metal components complain.
Also the nose make driveways and petrol station exits quite a problem.
I don’t want to plan my journeys to that extent.
Yep got my GTS order in what’s turning out to be a very long pipeline! Went for the softer suspension option (i.e. “S” model PASM) rather than standard GTS as found that too hard. GT4 is harder still so Jonny must like it hardcore if he found it ok as a daily...
@@neilturner6749
Do you mean -10mm?
I’ve had both. The -20 (standard on 4.0) was great in comfort, but unusable in sport on road. It essentially locks out the dampers!
-10mm gives you two usable road options.
The GT4 in comfort is very similar to the -20mm GTS, but sounds like it’s damaging itself over bumps.
We found a dealer 4.0 in Feb, before prices went silly and there were cars sitting in closed showrooms. Lucky break.
@@neilturner6749 I was deliberating the standard over the 20mm drop for a while, in the end I went with GTS 20mm drop, but it was a close call. I got lucky, picked up a cancellation slot for January 👍
Any road leaving Swindon is a good road. But those are some of the nicest
Vacuum stripes on the boot carpet? Now THAT's someone enjoying their work!
Great review JS , all the points made also apply to my car , the 981 GT4 , an amazing sports car.
21:45 - Very well said! Straight line speed isn't important, that's why cars like that Porsche are so much more exciting to me than the Model S Plaid.
Yep , thats why a 600 road bike is more enjoyable than a 1000 , a 125 dirtbike is a hoot , outright speed and power isnt the be all and end all.
Nice review, Jonny. If I had the money I would buy one like a shot. All the performance anyone needs, restrained styling, great soundtrack.
Gosh if I had the money, I think you’ve just found one of the few Porsche I’d actually want to own.
In Porsche terms, a back to basics new car.
I wouldn’t want the extras unless this particular one has extras? I also love it in black.. thanks for yet another great review, I’m off to sell all my belongings now in the vain hope of affording this 😂
Take a look at a 981 GT4. They are fantastic. Better than the new one in a few ways. Love mine.
Thank you for sending a little bit of that Porsche driving engagement emotions through this episode. Well spent 25 min :)
Nailed it with this one Jonny.
🤣🤣🤣 I almost die from laughter when the camera pan to Johnny sitting in the front boot..
Thanks for the review (must have missed it when it came out 🤔)! Love the enthusiasm put into these without losing focus on the facts. Probably would lean towards the GTS, don’t need even that, definitely don’t need more.
Only observation would be the in car and walk-around bits do repeat themselves… repeatedly 😉
Thorough, informative and passionate review. I want one of these with a basic spec not the RS.
Spot on! I'm a lifelong 911 guy who never really even noticed Caymans until 2016. Especially now with the 992s I'm almost completely over 911s and all about the GT4s.
‘This is the kind of engine it’s worth burning fuel for’ . . . Love that 👌🏻
I LOVE THE PASHION AND THE GOOD FUN SPRIT OF YOUR VIDEOS keep on keeping on regards
I think I'd have to go for a GTS 4.0l over this - I'm not a racing driver, I love a B road blast and longer road trips on the continent. This is undoubtedly a lovely car though. I've always been a 911 fan - my last car was a 996 turbo - but GTS 4.0 is the way to go......
I'd be happy with a 2.5 S or even the older 2.5 GTS 😄
I think that’s a brilliant move, but here’s the rub; you’ll end up buying the gt4 bumpers and diffusers so you’re down $5k there. Then the GT4 will extend the value spread, let’s say +20k at the same time the GTS loses $20k. Now you’re on the wrong side by $45k. My advice would be to either buy the GT product now, or wait and buy a GTS that’s already had the cosmetic upgrades done in a couple of years.
Made me want one now! Superb video
The big advantage with the 992 GT3 is the multi link rear and double wishbone front end. Theres a great side by side ring video on youtube somewhere which shows where the gt3 gains its 10 seconds per lap. both are within 20kg of each other.
Thanks for a really nice video! I bought one today.
Thanks Jonny superb review, i might have a look at the pdk GT4.
As A GT4 -2020 owner my self. Jonny this was the best reviewI ever seen of the Model GT4. And I have seen 40-50 at least. Yes who needs the GT4 RS, well if you want to shine for all pretty Girls, or be the TopNoch of the game then buy the GT¤-Rs, but I think it is A TRACK tool, not for my kind of driving, on normal streats and highways. The Standard GT4 is enough for cool/smooth driving.
Brilliant review J! Your kids would love if you picked them up in it & you were sitting in the front when they came out…..😉😂😂😂
This is an older review now but still great!
Since it's been 2 years now, you should try and get your hands on a 718 Spyder... I actually think that is an even better road going sports car to the GT4...
Nail hit on head. I have a spyder on order for June. Can’t wait!
Don't get me wrong I love Porsche, ever since i saw my first targa back in te day when I was 14 speeding away on a quiet road when i was waitng for a bus to go to my Saturday job. I fell in love with that car.
I've had my heart set on a 992 but it's likely I could only afford a base model. Jonny, you might just have convinced me to have a look at 718 GTS/GT4
Nailed it! Back of the net......as Mr A. Partridge might say.
Nice to see you review something current modern and sporty, no risk of putting you in any pigeon hole. Loved it, keeping it fresh.
I'll still have a 911 for the cabin space, my 991.1 has the lovely sounding 3.8 NA at around 400hp and is my peak Porsche.
Thanks David, appreciate that.
Fantastic review! Love your style and blend of knowledge and wit. Keep up the great work!
great comment on options. when you get the gt4 or gts 4.0 no options needed really besides pdk if you don't want a manual. i ordered a boxster gts 4.0 with 4 options only pdk, shark blue, guards red seat belts and buttons on the steering wheel.
Brilliant review and very likeable bloke. Nice one.
Brilliant review. Definitely made me want to drive one of these and reminded me of some of the joy of driving piston cars. Still sticking to EVs though, but a good reminder!
Yes I'd love one ..Will we see jonny in his speedos in the front boot equipped with a pond liner . like small child on a Sunday evening in front of the fireplace having his weekly bath ,
Great review
Loving yr work JS, keep it coming 👍