X4 GUIDE: Passive Income & Mining Fleet (2/4)
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2023
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Finally straightforward and clear to understand guide to X4, though youtube thinks it is space engineers :D
Small tip for the Spiral-Scouting:
Ctrl + Right click sets "fly and wait" command to the position you selected. No extra right click menu needed.
Also works if you want a fleet to attack multiple enemy ships or stations: Ctrl + Rightclick automatically sets an attack order.
I have more than 3000 hours in this game, and i didn't knew about this commands! Thanks a lot friend!
These tutorials are really cool. You show exactly what people need to know to get started. So many menus are super overwhelming and while you will want to micro stuff you'll want to put a solid 10 hours in at least before messing with advanced settings unless you really know what you're doing.
Thanks :) And yes, the basics carry you a loooong way.
Man i was so confused playing by myself but your tutorials made me realize how much this game as to offer right before i was about to quit. Damn what a game and i feel that i've only started scratching the surface of a deep hole
There is a command for ships to scout regions. You access that via right-click to the region you want scouted OR clicking on the Jump Gate/Accelerator/Super Highway.
And the BEST Scout is, until you get to the Boron missions, the Paranid Pegasus Vandguard, you get it by the guys in violet on the map by riding the Highway to the 3-o´clock-position.
Once you met the Borons, buy the Irukandji for best Scout. Important detail: Difference between Vanguard and Sentinel is that the Vanguard has more speed while the Sentinel has more storage space and hit points. Though that only gets critical once you get to the finer details of the game.
Sorry folks, here are the names of the bindings:
Throttle to zero = stop engines
Select stuff = select object
(Thanks to Voltkraken)
Also from the comments (Thanks to coldrogue):
Hold CTRL to place multiple waypoints
STRG ?
@@timmyingelbrecht6977 CTRL. Sorry, german keyboard. Thanks for pointing out.
130 hours in and this video still taught me some basic stuff I missed.
Once your miners are hard at work, I'd definitely recommend applying this knowledge and getting auto-miners in as many sectors as you can. Each miner will pay for the next, and before you know it you'll be making money faster than you can spend it.
I keep coming back to your guides for tips.
First I was "What does 'Build Dock' mean?" (Project Genesis), but now I'm "Screw the dock, I'm getting space rich with my mining fleet!" 😆
@@simond.455 Let's gooo :)
Excellent tutorial. I've got about 40 hours in the game - but probably more than half that time the game was on "pause" while I tried to figure out how to do something, so this sort of tutorial is invaluable - the other thing that I haven't seen is a strategy guide. There are lots of tutorials like this one but nothing that suggests strategy options once you've got the basics down - I realise that this is something of a sandbox game but there must be some strategies that one can use. I don't really want to sit through some guy's play through for hours on end to get a clue.
Thanks for the inspiration. I try not to talk much about strategy so there's enough left for new players to find out by themselves. But it seems like people are interested, so I've put it on my to do list. :)
@@WatchMysh Like I say, I managed to get about 40 hours in, got some mining going etc and then I was "what should I be thinking about now?" so some pointers would be great - I realise that every game is different, and your personal aims dictate your strategy but I imagine there are some basic principles....
I think the weakest part of the game is that it has a steep learning curve (which I'm fine with) but poor tutorials. I'm from the generation that remembers when games came with a proper written manual that explained how things worked and how to do things. I suppose that I'm just a dinosaur!
@@malcolmrose3361 nah. I come from the same ancient time of gaming and I feel the same. Well there are lots of strategies like you said. I personally like the "giant solar power plant" strategy. It's stupidly simple. Sometimes there are sectors with a lot of stations and not a single power plant. Preferably at the ring highway. Build a solar power plant with a pier and a dock there and like... 32 solar panels. Set the price to 11 credits which should outbid everyone else. Doesn't earn a fortune like for example an advanced electronics factory. But it's a steady source of income and requires no resources to run. Maybe attach a trader or two.
The plant builds itself. I start with 2 panels and then I slowly install more over time. If you pick the right spot it's almost always sold out. If not, reduce the price to 10.
Agreed 👍
These tutorials are great. Takes the edge off trying to learn the game. Super fun!
Thanks :) Mission accomplished.
Finally a straight to the point guide! Very well structured and objective, good job
Thanks! :)
I've watched a lot of X4 tutorials, and this is the clearest and best presented on initial mining.
Mission accomplished :)
Very helpful. This game is so detailed. I don't think I would be enjoying it without the tutorials and tips from the community. Many thanks.
You're welcome :)
Great video. Clear concise and easy to understand. Well done! Love the way you simply explain the details.
Thanks! :) Happy to help. The goal was to make an entertaining to watch tutorial which doesn't waste anyone's time.
I was a little bit lost in the game but watching these first two tutorials of 10 min each I have learned a whole ton about the game. Now I know what to do next time I play again. Thank you!
You're welcome! :) If anything still gives you trouble just ask.
I've been playing this for years on and off, but I learn something everytime I watch one of your vids. You earnt a sub from me.
Thanks and welcome to the community! More videos incoming - I'll be back from my vacation in a few days. :)
As a newbie, I found this video very useful. Please do a few more for beginners!
This! Please give us some next steps. Great vids!! Keep it up
Thanks! I was on vacation for a while. Will start recording once I get back in a few days. :)
Haven't played X4 in several years - this is a great video and would be a good refresher if/when I play again.
Thanks :)
Well i have to say after spending about 15 hours in game i feel im finally starting to get a hang of the basics. I have to say you pack so much info into such a short video im more than impressed. At first things seem quite daunting but youve made things seem so much easier. My miner seemed to have found a ore refinery in the reach now so i dont even have to send them back to AP to offload. This passive income rocks plus it allows me to go off and do some missions for extra income! When im confident in everything ive done so far it will be time to move on to your third video.
Thanks! :) That's what I always try to do: make complex stuff easily understandable.
Nice, best guide ever!
Recently started playing and your videos came up as a suggestion. Great videos and we need more!! lol Subscribed! 😁👍
I'll be back in a week. Will start recording immediately then. :)
Dude your guides are amazing. Thank you!
You're welcome! :)
well while on it you can helps the systems economic (where possible) and create some auto traders to buy and sell the first steps of the production chain aka siliconplates and refind metals .so you get good money and the shipyards for exemple enough hullparts from the hullpart factory in the system.
Much appreciated thanks for the video
Glad it helped
If I remember correctly completing the explore task can get the pilot experience, I'm not sure if setting waypoints does as well. I like to transfer my explorer pilots to mining ships after a while.
Very nice, love it
Your videos made me buy the game.
I am looking forward to the next.
Have fun! I'm on vacation rn but back in a few days. :) Will start recording immediately.
@@WatchMysh Sounds great. I tried the advanced tutorial, but it wasn't a help in regards on how to start a station, eg. refinery :D
Enjoy your vacation
Very good guide, really helpful for new players
Thank you :)
Another great vid! Thanks very much for the helpful tutorial!
You're welcome :)
"Your miners can mimic your commanders current orders" Me looking at my list of 30 unassigned miners
@@ShaftyMegee :D
@@WatchMysh reassigning my miners made me realize I literally exhausted the need for silicon in a sector. I'm constantly learning new things 😌. Thanks for the vid
@@ShaftyMegee X4 is a hole without a bottom. In a positive way.
This is a cool busiess trading game I can get into. Very nice tutorials to get my business going. 😊
Thanks! :) Hf! :)
Tnanks!
Awesome. my miner filled with ore and I had no idea how to get rid of it.
Mysh. I just started a couple of days ago and I have been following your lessons and they have been a great help. Fantastic job on this content. I have an issue where I have (3) Medium Ore Miners doing Silicon in an Area. 1 or 2 of my miners frequently will sit in a resource field and do nothing. I have all three miners set to do the same 'Local Automine' for Silicon. I have checked the refinery and it's not 'full' . I am just curious if there's something else I should check ? Or perhaps should I not have (3) Silicon Miners in the same region ? This is in the region of Grand Exch IV.
Thanks for the appreciation! :) Hm. This sometimes happens if there are not so many reosurces in a system. Or if your ore storage is full but you already checked and it's not. Hard to say. Sometimes the AI just has a stroke also. Maybe let one of your miners mine in another system? Just to see what happens?
After a few updates and polish, this will be my favorite game hands down if it isn't already.
Fenomenal tutorial videos
Thanks :)
These videos are great. When do you think the next one will be?
I lucked out and saw a ore station in reach (first playthough, idk if it's random or not), but I'm not seeing any revenue increase when they land and sell.
It's random. :) I'll be back at the keyboard in a few days. Will start recording immediately. :)
What do you mean by no revenue? You don't get money when your miners are selling?
@MYSH I just had to be patient! Takes time for it to hit the ledger while they work. Your videos inspired me to make an x4 video. Great stuff, and thank you!
@@staybussin happy to help :) Nice video, by the way! :)
Well said
nice , thanks
You're welcome! :)
What is the replenishment mechanic for ore/silicon etc?
When my fleets get attacked the ships i gave the order to protect them just stand there whatching the ships die what do i do
The game looks really good. I watched your tutorial videos to get a first impression before I actually buy X4. It already looks very complex and despite your videos I will probably be totally lost for the time being. I actually "play" Star Citizen, but because of the server problems I'm looking for an alternative and X4 looks really good, if not better. Because X4 is currently on sale on Steam, I'll give it a try. My big question is: What about all the expansions that are offered for X4, is it worth buying them or should I play the base game first?
If you have the money to spare get them all and you'll have a lot to discover. But the base game still has it all - except the Recycling from Avarice.
Bro - also found my way to X4 from star citizen o7
I may found a bug or glitch. I have Pilot 3 Star and gave him Auto Mining Advanced. Then I needed them somewhere else so swapped captains.. but the new one has only 2 Star.. but it still uses the default behaviour with 3 Star. It is even not selectable and grayed out in the list.. still does it Automine Advanced. I didn't try to reproduce it. I just noticed and lit it work like so.
The mimic with 3 Stars does not work sadly. Maybe all of them need 3 Star to work it.
I have tried to start this game so many times. I get a couple of hours in and just quit because I find myself waiting for the game to really take off. The initial RNG missions that pop up are pretty mind-numbing, but then you get your first mining ship and then I end up waiting for that ship to make me enough money to progress. The last time I gave up on this game was after my auto-pilot got me stuck inside of a space station and I lost over an hour of progress.
Your guides were super helpful, but I cannot help but feel like I am missing something when it comes to this game.
Can't fall in love with everything I guess :) For me it took weeks to get a grasp of the X-series way back in the days with its first installation. It's an unwieldly beast...
@WatchMysh I'll get in the mood for a 4X game again and we will see if it works for me then
🙏
does every captain in the fleet have to be the same rank or higher than the fleet commander in order to mimic advance and expert mining?
Yes
Nice guide, Im so lost in x4🤕such a complex game, 1 question, i send my miners to a sector where there are the asteroids rocks (brown sections in the map), but the miners dont do anything, they just stay there, and i used a resources probe and it says 0% ore when i hover the cursor over the probe, but still i can mine manually, what could be the problem?
Minerals are indicated by colored areas within the sectors. The sectors themselves aren't marked as mineral rich. You shouldn't be able to mine by yourself if there's no ore present ... that's weird. But you can always crack open asteroids for other resources.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't understand the scout thing: one buys a scout, but it doesn't come with a pilot right? You have to place a pilot in it? How to do that?
@@angel_machariel if you buy ships at a wharf you can just increase the amount of crew. One of them will automatically be designated as the pilot.
Is there any specific reason you use mineral miners in the video? I find gas ones a bit cooler, but there might be some gameplay perspective I'am unaware of. Also, im impatient, so i've been considering buying a small miner instead of a mineral one, any negatives with that?
No. It's just for the tutorial. You can get the same result with gas miners.
Does this work if i set a "fresh" miner to mimic a ship with an advanced or expert mining order?
AFAIK - no, it has to have 3 stars too to mimic advanced, otherwise they would sit and remain confused what to do
Thanks.
If it was mentioned in the video i must have missed it.
Forget to mention that. Yes, it won't work and you'll get a "mimic impossible" error.
@@WatchMysh ooh nice, they added an actual error instead of just sitting weirdly in one place, taking ages before you notice that :D
@@LeonserGT Don't know if that's true, though. Just checked on reddit. Post was from 2022. So maybe they've actually added the error message. I can't test it because I'll be afk for a while.
My menu looks nothing like this so following along on your guides have been exceptionally challenging. Is there a discord I can join to get some help?
That's weird. All guides are recorded using a vanilla game. Did you install some interface mods and forgot about them by any chance?
@@WatchMysh I don’t have any UI mods installed. I don’t know if it’s because of keybinding being different since I can’t find the way to set it up the way you described in part 1.
Oh I hate you a little :D, I played the old X1/2 and have so many good memories, X4 was a disappointment, but now i want back in, I am not sure i want to dish out almost 50 euro\s for the DLC for the improved version, which means i have to wait for some discounts.
Thanks for the vids.
I'd wait for a sale, too. But you can already try out the improvements with vanilla.
lol this game is pretty cool
1:50 how do you set a waypoint in the first place? I don't get that 'fly to and wait' option. I only get 'start guidance to position' and if I do a second location it gets rid of the first.
Set guidance appears when you're in control of the selected ship. It you want to set waypoints, get up from your chair and let the pilot take over :)
@@WatchMysh ahhh okey dokey. Thank you.
@@fictitiousnightmares np. Hf! :)
@@WatchMysh Hmm, to be honest, I took you at your word as I had not hired a pilot yet. Now that I have, and I get up from my seat and he takes over I still only get the same 'start guidance to position'. I have no idea what I am doing. I thought I was getting the hang of this a bit, but the sectors are divided up into parts of the sector and I can't even navigate to the black part of the sector. the highway jumps from one little area to another then dumps me off, there is no loop. I can't set waypoints. I'm obviously a total newb, but man, come on.
@@fictitiousnightmares I am having the same problem. First my crew information is different than what is shown in the video. I hired a captain, but he is shown as a relief pilot. There is no list of crew at the bottom. I also can't set way points, just "start guidance to position" whether I'm piloting or the other captain is flying.
How do yous elct undock in behaviour options? I dont see it anywhere
You don't need to. That's an automatic behaviour which is triggered if you tell a ship to go somewhere. It's a state the ship is in and not something you specifically tell it to do.
great video, thanks, but how the hell did you make 7mil credits?
Thanks! :) I didn't make 7 mil this quick. I already had them and then made the video - so I don't have to play for hours until I can record the next chapter.
When is that second part coming? Super useful guide, would love more.
I'm afk at the moment but will return in a week. I'll start editing new videos then :)
1-2 mils from doing fetch quests? Are you kidding, its so boring.
6:37 visible confusion 😮
I always fly around exploring, clearing some mines, destroying criminal station traffic (gets rep up, too), collecting stuff from killed Xenon and so on... all while I roughly check out the most important sectors. I usually have enough money for 1-2 M miners within an hour or two. Sometimes quicker if I stumble over some crystals. I don't salvage abandoned ships early on because that's too easy and they always are at the same position. Or I just do the Hatvikah plot where you get the free ship. Sometimes I sell it to get the Miner quicker.
@@WatchMysh yes, crystals... You haven't mentioned those in your videos
@@DmytroBogdan yes, I try to teach basic controls and game dynamics and still leave room to explore and find out stuff on your own. So I decided to explain the mission system in my basics tutorial because you need to know where it is and how it works for the story missions, too. :)
Hi I was wondering if you could help. I followed your guide exactly however my miner just floats in the same spot doing nothing and will not mine anything. I tried changing between Ore and Ice as they both have a lot of stars for the region and set up resource probes in a net to cover the area however it still just sits there and does nothing. I tried moving him to a different area and I had the same issue. Any idea why my mining ship just wont mine?
Hard to tell. It just sits in the middle of an ore field and doesn't mine? Is it missing equipment? Does it have a mining laser? Cargo hold maybe full and it cant sell?
@@WatchMysh Cargo hold is empty, and it mines if I move it into a sector with little to no resources, it just wont mine in the area i want. It keeps moving to the same red tile and just sits vertically and spins there without doing anything. I tried setting it to mine in zones manually using right click and same thing, it just travels, stops then moves on until it can get back to spinning in place.
@@fritta129 This is strange. The fact that it mines in other sectors is weird. So it just spins in place and you don't get any error message in the behavior tab?
@@WatchMysh No issues or errors in the behaviour tab. It is now moving between 2 different tiles on the map in the Second Contact II Flashpoint sector (if this helps). It will go to one area, sit vertically for a while then move to the next and repeat infinitely. It appears as though there are 5 other AI mining ships stuck in this same loop however every now and then they will drop ice containers with 400-500 materials.
@@fritta129 super weird. Could be a bug or sth. Post it on the official forums if you can be bothered. Either you get a solution or the devs get a bug to fix.
I don't understand why you gave a police license to a miner? It costs 50k in case you bought 3 miners, this license cost you 150k
Did I? Of course you shouldn't. Wasn't on purpose.
Can't find anyone selling ore and silicon nowhere to be found in argon.
Should be. But if you cant find anything in Argon, then go somewhere else. The principles of this tutorial apply anywhere. :)
I assign the mimic command and the ships just sit there and do nothing
I think I know why, I have the commander set to mine the sell for the order and the behavior is set to repeat. since the fleet will only mimic the behavior, "repeat" isnt a good behavior to mimic.
Ooh that makes sense! Thanks for posting the solution after you found it!
Great guide my only issue is I came from the previous guide where you showed us 1 mission paying 29k, then the next video you're like so by now you should have 2mil plus? Like dang big jump
Thanks :) Yes, I'm just showing the mechanics and how things work. Wanted to keep things simple and video length short. There are missions that pay more - I think people can find them on their own.
@WatchMysh could you do another for a better way to make money for get to 3mil asap to then be able to start the auto mining?
@@Just1Ace I will look into it
I tried playing Star Citizen, but my pc keeps crashing so i want to try something similar, or maybe even better. Is this the right game for me ?
X4 is very different. It starts out as a pilot sim and transforms into strategic economic just as you approach midgame. Absolutely no need for a HOTAS or dual stick as it's best controlled with m/k. Still a great game, just a different approach to "space gaming".
Thank you for that quick response, appreciated !@@WatchMysh
@@MrFreewillsacrifice np! :) Ask away if you want to know anything else. And notice that my tutorials are a series. The 1/4 is a beginner's guide to X4 and shows you all of the basics.
developer of this game should learn the combat mechanic from no man sky...
Do yo plei war tunder enimor?
I took a little break because of the broken economy. Will continue once they get over their greed.
In the name of the Holy Trinity, stop with this abomination of giving a scout dozens of fly and wait commands to map a sector. My fingers hurt just from looking at that!
I highly recommend to simply use a few more scouts instead. I use 6-scout squads and give each one of them an explore command into a corner of the sector. They tend to map out the whole sector in 10-15 minutes. It also only requires 6 orders per sector, and prevents the suffering to your fingers. =D
If you later get to explaining the weapons and how they work (some of them are quite strange indeed) I am more than willing to fill you in on ALL the details for that.
Thanks for the Input. It's a nice way to scout very early to map one or two sectors. As I said: use the standard explore command later. Had to keep the tutorial at a digestable length. I'd call what you just described as "advanced scouting" I reserved for a later tutorial.
I'd be happy to hear what you have to say about weapons. Did you already thorougly test the Boron arsenal?
@@WatchMysh Yeah, i can see it being slightly advanced. Especially with the higher cost of multiple ships.
And yup, i did do a proper examination and testing of boron weaponry. I got all the numbers and funky mechanics.
@@kajarslibrary5404 nice :) what's your conclusion?
are you german?
Yes
seriously..
if that tutorial guide of yours would be "ingame" as a video to watch ....
the whole game would be so much easer to understand ^^
"i had to watch youtube tutorials to understand the ingame tutorials.. that phrase "right action wrong target" made me so angry at some point xD....
@@garushkahn5857 lol. Yes... The ingame tutorials are still a bit hard to follow. EgoSoft featured my video series on top of their tutorials list, though. So a lot of people find their way here. :)
I like this game much. too bad no coop at least +1 more...
Coop would be really cool