Daikin Airbase install (BRP15B61 Wireless LAN adapter)
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2020
- Installation of new Daikin Airbase BRP15B61 for ducted air-conditioning system. Indoor unit FDY160LV1 and outdoor unit RY160LUY1, with third-party zone motor system. This wireless LAN adapter allows for control of your A/C system from mobile or tablet via the Daikin Airbase app.
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Thanks for the video. With the cold nights I was trying to figure out how to turn my 15yo Daikin ducted system on from upstairs without having to go all the way downstairs to the kitchen. You inspired me to try the wireless controller and It was an easy install. Also upgraded the downstairs controller to the same one you upgraded in your other video. 👍
Great Video Gareth. I was looking for such an adaptor for my 10 year old Daikin Ducted unit.
Appreciate this bud 🍺🍺
Thanks for the video, we have just installed the same thing. I was wondering if each time you use the Airbase app on your phone do you need to select the Daikin network? Our installer told us this and its difficult in a larger house to switch to this network as the adaptor is downstairs & its network is often not received from upstairs. We thought it would link to the network in the house & not have its own network.
I've done this before, it connects to the home network so you don't need to connect to the daikin specific one each time. Obviously, this unit needs to have wireless reachability to your existing wireless network for this to work.
Thanks for this video. Considering this to get my Daikin wireless enabled so I can connect it to my home automation system. Why did you go all the way to the unit in the ceiling as opposed to simply leave it next to the BRC remote controller? Even though its probably low maintenance but wouldn't it be more convenient to have it easily accessible?
Also were you able to get the Airbase from Daikin or did you have to go to an installer? Understand it's about $300
@@GarethOakes Ok that makes sense. You mind sharing the supplier?
@@GarethOakes Ok txs. Will check with them
@@meierthomas What make sense? what was the answer?
Where would we able to purchase this unit at a reasonable cost
Hi Gareth. Does this work the zone panel you have? If so, does the P1 and P2 need to be connected to the unit itself rather than the P1 and P2 of the control pad?
You can piggy back the P1/P2 wires from existing controller to Airbase. However, if you want the zones to work with Airbase, you have to use the Daikin zone controller.
Hi, I have a ducted Daikin system. Has anyone installed this and managed to operate the weekly schedule from the App? It doesn't appear like the Airbase allows the weekly schedule to be altered?
Great video !
quick question, Is it possible to only have the Airbase connected without a master controller ?
Great question, I have never tried! I kind of doubt it though. Try it and let us know?
Hi Gareth, I'm guessing you can't control the zones and you'll need to that manually?
If that's the case, I'm wondering if getting the zone controller remote (rather than that navease one you install) would've been a better option as airbase would control thermostat/fan as well as zones dampers as well.
Also, for my install, will piggy backing off the wired remote (like you had it at the beginning of the video) be OK as a long term install? I was planning on installing that airbase unit right next to the remote anyway so it'll save me getting into the roof.
Yes I've toyed with the idea of getting Daikin zone remote, so airbase can adjust zones. It is a complicated install as you have to replace the current zone controller. Piggy backing works perfectly fine BTW 👍
@@GarethOakes thanks. I was thinking it should be as easy as finding the damper voltage from the existing switches (24 or 230) and then mount the zone controller remote, connect p1 and p2 from existing navease remote, then simply connect the zone switches installed today to the new zone controller remote.
A quick look at the install guide also seems to indicate that you need to bring ANE from the indoor unit back to the zone controller remote but that seems the hardest part. I wonder if ANE "needs" to come from the indoor unit directly or if it can be powered from any source to save me the hassle of running a new power cable.
@@callitagain When I looked into it I had the 24V zone damper motors. I would need to remove existing remote (wall panel) and replace with Daikin BRC24Z8B. The kit for that includes the wall panel remote and internal control box. The control box is to be mounted adjacent to the A/C indoor unit and connected via P1/P2. A second set of wiring (not P1/P2) then connects from the control box down to the wall panel remote. The control box also connects to each zone damper motor. All power for the BRC24Z8B remote and control box comes from the A/C indoor unit, as I understood.
Interested if you get any further than that as I am thinking about doing this upgrade for next summer so I can automate my zones.
@@GarethOakes thanks mate, will do.
I’ve had mine installed 1.5 years ago. All working fine. What annoys me is that in the airbase app the temp that shows inside the house is not the one reading at the wall controller but the temp of the roof unit. Is there a way of changing this? Can’t find it in the app and not sure if it’s something it needs doing on the roof unit
@gareth I know you mentioned in the video the airbase counts as a controller. Just wanted to see if you've tried installing the airbase whilst still maintaining two (physical) controllers?
No, I have not. However, it works well with one master controller plus the Airbase. I think the Airbase consumes the secondary controller function so you would encounter problems if you had another secondary.
@@GarethOakesinteresting you say that. I have a recent install with a brc24z and airbase controller. The sub controller in field settings is disabled (1b-6-01) and system works fine. Wondering if another brc24z could be successfully attached in this case, while obviously enabling slave controller in field settings
Hi. Thanks for the video so I understand this correctly if you originally connected the unit to P1and P2 of the controller was there a need to change the controller.
No need to change controller 👍
@@GarethOakes thank you.
Did you ever get to upgrade the zone controller if so what are your suggestions. Also where can I purchase this at a reasonable price. There was mention in one of the responses of a supplier
Install & use of the adapter was quite easy but have you experienced problems with the out of home function as the airbase seems to regularly lose the a/c unit?
Also interested on why you needed as new wired controller
Old wall controller was yellowed and cracking 😁 no problems with a/c connectivity. Is your wi-fi signal strong where the airbase is located?
My Wi-Fi is next to the controller
I think that it’s more about the Daikin app & software having issues (their answer is a factory reset and create a new account/ID)
Hi mate thanks for this upload. I have 2 wired wall controllers. I'm thinking of removing the controller upstairs, can I just use the wiring already there to the controller, remove them and attach to the airbase?
@@GarethOakes fantastic thanks mate
Thanks for sharing Gareth but I'm just wondering, is it possible to permanently piggy back on the wall controller? I have the same wall controller and I don't really want to do anything up the roof
Yes piggybacking is a common method of installation. However, do note that you can only have the Airbase plus the wall controller. You cannot have two wall controllers.
Hi - I have a Daikin FXTB12AXVJU indoor unit I'm trying to get a wired adapter to connect to. I need an S21 port, but my PCB (5wmy15jr) does not have this connector. It has a CN_WIRED connector which the service manual calls the wireless features gateway port - but it's a 6 pin JST connector. Anyone else having the same issues find a solution? It doesn't make sense they would put a CN_WIRED port there just for the heck of it without having an adapter to connect it to, however I see everything compatible with every other model BUT the FTXB series.
I've purchased 2 interface adapters both have the 5 pin cable but not JST. The wireless adapter BRP072A43 installation instructions show a "TYPE A - HA PCB adapter" section. Any idea of what adapter I need to purchase?
I also see a KRP067A41E adapter for an FTX but not FTXB - it converts the CN_DISPLAY port from a button, IR Remote and LED to the interface which would make perfect sense but I want to make sure it's the correct one.
Thanks for the Daikin Airbase Adapter installation Video. Unfortunately my installer left the Airbase Adapter on the ceiling above the indoor unit. He costs me $150 to reconnect the Adapter to new NBN Wifi Modem. Could you please advise me where usually are the wall power socket for the indoor unit? How could I relocate the adapter near the aircon control unit? Thanks
There is no power socket. The airbase is powered by the P1/P2 wire. BTW, you can reconnect the unit to new WiFi yourself. I think it's covered in the documentation.
@@GarethOakes Hi Gareth Thanks for the quick response. The airbase was connected & installed by the installer but he left the adatpter on the ceiling instead of bringing it down the main controller. To do that perhaps I have to open the adatpter connection and pass the cables & reconnect it downstairs.I was enquiring usually the power socket of the indoor unit is either a hanging plug from ceiling to be disconnected. He didn't leave any document for me perhaps he wants me to call him & pay $150 everytime. Thanks
How do I remove the frame for the ap thing
Hi, do you consider this as something you can do it yourself without engaging an electrician? Thanks.
I'm not sure of the legality where you live, but yes, it seems easy enough for a competent DIY person.
Hi. How do I change the wifi settings on the adaptor. It’s been installed for about a year, but now we have a new ISP with new wifi details. Do I have to do a complete reset and add the adaptor to the Airbase app again?
The easiest with a new wifi is always set the new router to the old name and password. Then no changes needed 😎 otherwise like you say, I think you need to reset and setup again.
Will this work for a Daikin system, with outdoor unit RZP100DV1, indoor unit FHYCP100DVE?
I think so, it looks like that indoor unit supports the P1/P2 wires that are required. I assume this because the manual for your model shows the BRC1C62 wall controller which uses the same P1/P2 wires that Airbase also uses. You can check with Daikin themselves if you want confirmation.
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ju1ceju1ce
Thanks for the video and the walkthrough. I have a Nav Ease controller for my Daikin 18kw system. Do i need to connect the wifi to my Nav Ease controller and also to the main unit? I am not replacing my Nav Ease controlller, i just want to add the wifi to use the Airbase app? So do i need to add the wifi adaptor to my main unit and the controller both or can i just connect it to the main unit directly?
Can you please explain that so i can understand properly?
In the video the guy only connected it directly to the Nav Ease to show us how it worked, then when he connected it to the indoor unit in the roof he disconnected it from the Nav Ease and connected it to the P1/P2 terminals on the indoor unit. At no point was it connected to both.
Connecting to the P1/P2 terminals on the indoor unit is the way the manual says to connect it. But seeing as the two controllers work in parallel if it is easier for you there is nothing wrong with daisy chaining the Airbase off the Nav Ease like he did initially. That is how my place is done because it was easier for me to get to the back of my controller (I have the 8 zone controller rather than the Nav Ease), then getting my body down to where the indoor unit is located.
Whilst not your question the only thing you cannot do is add an Airbase where you already have two controllers. If you want to add an Airbase you need to remove one of those controllers. To that end the one thing I really don't like about the Airbase is how ugly it is. I understand that it is designed to be placed in the roof, but if it looked a lot nicer it could go on a wall without it looking so crap.
ju1ceju1ce right you are. I was thinking of the older unit which they said to mount to the indoor unit even giving double sided tape to so that.
That said I am not sure why this one couldn’t go in the roof. It should be able to handle the environment, all it needs is good wifi, seeing as most ceilings of gyproc and peoples home wifi routers are Omni directional it shouldn’t matter if you have it in the ceiling. Not hacking a shot at you but in some ways a walk in robe may be worse as the signal may have more walls to go through.
so in the other way I can put Airbase right next to the Wired controller side by side with a short connection between them. Instead of going to roof and make a new long line from roof unit to inside wall.
Yes. You can connect the P1/P2 wires from the Airbase controller into the back of the Wired controller.
Is Airbase Alexa compatible?
Daikin Australia website says it can connect to Alexa and has detailed instruction on how to do it. However, in my Alexa app I can't see the Airbase Voice option at all!
Can you please help?
I'm using Home Assistant so I don't actually use the Airbase app. I linked the Airbase in to Home Assistant. My Alexa works with Home Assistant just fine and that includes the air conditioning via Airbase.
Hi Garath, Can you keep the airbase installed off the controller? Maybe mount next or below the controller instead of the in roof unit?
Yes, the P1/P2 wiring is a bus so you can connect wherever convenient.
Can i replace this with brc1d61 controller? I have two of these one on each floor.
ju1ceju1ce thanks mate, also just to confirm do i actually need to replace one controller or can i connect it side by side? Kind of like in the video?
ju1ceju1ce thanks a lot
Couldn't you just leave the airbase in the roof without drilling it in the house ? If wireless connection proximity is not an issue ?
Mine is in the roof, no problem,
Does the app work when your home internet is out, but your phone is connected to the same network? Like the internet is out but I'm in another room and want to control the unit(s)? Any chance you have tried this out or can give it a shot?
Yeah that works, the device will work totally offline, it is not dependent upon a vendor cloud
@@GarethOakes that's great, I read that the third party cloud integration is online through the daikin cloud so I wondered if offline works. You don't happen to know if local API integration is possible with something like homebridge? I would likely block internet access to the dkn cloud device after setup and use VPN or homebridge integration to access.
@@syplexsyplex I use Home Assistant with an integration that works via direct local network connection to Airbase. It can read/write all relevant data to the device (operating mode, temperature, fan speed, etc.).
@@GarethOakes perfect, thanks!
Oof $300, that is some serious profits for them on these.
Why do you go all the way and doesn't leave it connected to the controller?
You can't control zones if you just connect it to the wall remote.
@@plushgalore So basically if you connect it to the main unit you can control all the units?
I thought I need one per unit
@@zoharz1 when you say unit do you mean wired wall remote ? Or do you mean air conditioning unit? Do you have ducted air conditioning because that is what this is for . There are other models of this for other air-conditioning types
@@plushgalore hi, I have vrv air conditioner, one out door condenser connected to 3 indoor units. I would like to add wifi capabilities.
@gareth Did you ever get to change the zone controller
Yes, I'm now running a Daikin BRC24Z8B which has replaced the two old wall controllers I had. It also works perfectly via Airbase.
@@GarethOakes was it just a switch over of the controllers or was there more involved ?
@@byron2110 no it's a bit involved, not super complicated but you will need a refrigeration tech to complete the conversion due to the need to work with the 230V A/C equipment. I would budget for at least $500 labour plus the new Daikin hardware.
Hi dose anyone knows how to active the ( NOT home ) options ?
It seemed to work for me once I created the Daikin account..?