The 30 Tyrants | The Reign of Tyranny
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- With the 30 Tyrants installed in Athens by the Spartans, a rivalry quickly arises amongst the Tyrants between Kritias and Theramenes on how to run the city. In this video we will detail the terror of the 30's reign and the epic feud between these two leading politicians.
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Sources:
Thucydides 8.45 - 8.98
Aristotle. Constitution of Athens. 29 - 34
Xenophon Hellenica 2.2.10 - 2.4.43
Lysias. 12 “Against Eratosthenes”
Diodorus Siculus 13.36 - 14.4
Stem, R.,
2003 The Thirty at Athens in the Summer of 404, The Classical Association of Canada, Vol. 57, No. 1, pp. 18 - 34.
LeCaire, L.,
2013 Tyranny and terror: the failure of Athenian
democracy and the reign of the Thirty Tyrants, EWU Masters
Thesis Collection. 179. dc.ewu.edu/theses/
Krentz, P.,
2009 The Arginousai Affair, in R. B. Strassler, The Landmark Xenophon’s Hellenica, Pantheon Books, London,
Krentz, P.,
2009 The Athenian Government and the Oligarchy of the Thirty, in R. B. Strassler, The Landmark Xenophon’s Hellenica, Pantheon Books, London,
Chapters:
0:00 The Rise of the 30
1:23 The Reign of Terror
3:22 The List of 3,000
6:17 The Metics
7:17 The Good and Fair Kritias
12:00 Epilogue
I’m going to try something new and make a reply video to the comments. If you have any questions relating to the topic or want any details expanded then reply to this comment.
When will you play Rome II/Attila with me?
This Kritias is the ideological precursor of Socrates and Plato, right? That's my question and I think the answer is "yes" but slightly unsure.
Would you make a video about Cleomenes III, and his attempt at a Spartan revival?
Could Sparta have survived if Cleomenes's reforms were effective and if the Spartans didn't lose some major battle (sorry my history is vague on the revival/attempt of revival of Sparta).
You say the Athenians were disarmed. How much of a difference did being armed make, considering that in both Rome and Greece very frequently guys wielding blacksmith hammers, farm implements and chair's legs manage to storm the places of power and throw out governors they don't like? With firearms, an army of under a million can conquer and rule a country of tens of millions, but with short blade technology of the time it looks like even a 3:1 ratio is too much for the soldiers most of the time.
i get wanting to get rid of your enemies and show off your power but there is a limit, at some point the citizens will be more fearful of living under your rule than dying by your soldiers swords.
Exactly, in the next episode we explore a bit more on how the 30’s tyranny failed
i love this so much,when i was in high school i remmembermaking the speech of theramenes to my classroom and then out of nowhere as i finished some of my friends took out some pencils as if they were knifes ,the rest of the class was truly suprised as well xD)and dragged me from my teachers desk which was supposed to be the altar ,it was so fun!xD
I wonder what they got you to drink instead of Hemlock
What kind of High School did you go to where Theramenes was even mentioned?
Liquidsback In Greece they often use this segment when learning to translate ancient Ionian Greek. At least from what I’ve heard
@@ArchaiaHistoria you correct! its truly boring at first when you dont know the contex but once you learn a bit,you can easily fall in love with these stories of politics and war and of badasses like theramenes
Absolutely worth the wait! Thanks for all your hard work, sir. Can't wait for the rest of the phillip series.
This channel is criminally underrated. This content is just fantastic!
Thanks. We’ll get there in time
I can't wait to see the next part, especially not after a cliffhanger like that.
I'm making a RPG Campaign situated in this period, thanks for the research material, you're helping me a lot! :D
We studied the 30 tyrants and the Peloponesian war in high school, and althought i wasnt much of a great student the story of Theramenes always facinated me and made me sad. Listening and reading his speach has marked me still today. This is the reason i came back to this story searching of a video like this. One of the sadest periods and stories in the Ancient Greek Hisory.
I low key want to see an HBO adaptation of this. Who's with me on this?
Get you to do the soundtrack
@@ArchaiaHistoria Only if you write the script.
Glad to see my brother and I made it in the list of 3000
You survive the purge for yet another day
Theramenes commiting suicide like a Boss, not even characters in the troligy "the Godfather" were that cool while facing certain death: "To the good and fair Kritias"...
In the source Xenophon essentially write that although he doesn’t know if it adds anything historically it was such a cool moment he had to add it
Amazing work!!! Keep it up!
Very interesting content! Love your videos.
That was an awesome story!
Yay, a new video.
Had to comment again. This was just as good the second time. Possibly one of the best presented channels on ancient Greece
Glad you liked it, next episode should be coming soon
cool video. i never heard of this at all
Great video! Can't wait for the next one! Same with the Phillip series! 😁👍
Chillingly recognizable....
Still on the edge of my seat for part 3 :)
Coming very soon
@@ArchaiaHistoria Awesome!
Lovin the tunes
Be sure to show Leandros some love then!
Thank you very much my dude! I will make sure to upload the whole audio from the episode in the coming week! Make sure to click like, subscribe and name your first born child after me.
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Enjoy my dude
@@LeandrosMusic sick, you're really good at atmospheric music
@@bennolee348 your are really good at complementing me. Keep em coming my dude. Feel free to throw some feedback too if you have any.
it's hard to believe Athenes was little more than a smouldering ruin after everything that had taken place from 420-390bc.
How about we get Greek colonization Part 2 any time.
I was hoping for August but now it looks like later in the year. But it is being worked on
@@ArchaiaHistoria That is Great news.
I swear to Elricus if Barris is not featured here, I'm gonna become the new Basileus.
Hail Basileus DanVaska
I love the reference in the thumbnail were the guy (i always forget his name) drinks the poison. Ever since i learned about it, i always referred to Kritia as the sweet Kritia every time he did something bad to someone.
“Davos the cool” LOL
If you guys fancy to listen to the tunes without the narration I will be uploading them in my channel! If you happen to drop by, see you there!
bit of a bruh moment from kritias there ngl 😤
Straight up kicked Theramenes out of the 3,000. Bonafide bruh moment
Great Videos. Will there be a New Part to the phillip 2 videos?
Yes, but I can’t give an eta
The similarities to our current time are chilling.
When will the next Phillip II video come out?
Theramenes got chad Ned Stark vibe
The real cult of kosmos
Better than Game of Throne Season 8
700th like!!!
Theramenes sounds like the type who in fantasy novels would be a hero or something. And of course Kritias murdered him for his integrity.
the death of the sycophants
Can you relate this histroy with what is going on in the 🇺🇸? Names. Political position.agenda.etc
Literal Cult of Kosmos.
What’s happening in America right now.
This is the same Kritias or Critias that Socrates and Plato loved so much, right?
@@klausbrinck2137 - Plato repeatedly mentions a Kritias who was his own uncle or great-uncle, the age difference is not just plausible but likely.
Socrates was actually sentenced to ostracism, when already old, he chose the hemlock instead but it was his own decision, not a death sentence.
@@klausbrinck2137 - Just checked: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critias
He's the same Critias: Plato's mother's cousin (like second degree uncle).
@@klausbrinck2137 - Critias is particularly notorious in the Atlantis narration, which Plato puts in his mouth and that Critias attributes to Solon himself. Critias was descendant of a personal friend of Solon.
Socrates was teacher of Critias, so they were roughly the same age (actually Socrates seems a bit older). It was largely because of his ideological and personal relationship with Critias that Socrates became target of persecution by the restored Democracy. "Corrupting the youth" in the trial probably meant brainwashing them with elitist pro-Spartan anti-democratic ideas.
At least that's my take.
@@LuisAldamiz U were right, after all, Sokrates had to take hemlock before the war´s end, and not somewhen later in the 4th century, as I (rather confused) said. The information of this video, that this was the 1st known (to us) suicide/execution through hemlock is maybe false, and confused me, cause when Sokrates took hemlock, it was far more common already... I deleted my original posting.
@Klaus Socrates was killed in 400/399 BCE, which was years after the 30 Tyrants. For this period this is the first use of Hemlock for execution. Another contemporary to this period, Lysias, mentioned how they also used Hemlock when killing the Metics as well (he himself was a Metic)
The 21st century remake of this is something I wish we could avoid...
All this because the jerks on the south of Peloponnese were afraid of big mean Athens.
Ugh!
The tyranny of the minority. 😳
Byzantines were greek! A great legacy
I thought they were Roman.
Not true, the Byzantines were first and foremost Roman.
What they were in relation to Greece is that they were "Hellinized".
Haven't watched the whole video yet but it already sounds like the Trump Administration.
It also sounds like the Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Bush, or any President of whatever year the current year is.
And then they came for the Metics...