Oh my gosh, Jay is a musical genius. This makes Crashite's animation hit so much harder cause right before this Eurylochus reaches for Polites' headband which Odysseus is using as a hair band. This musical keeps finding new ways to make me cry and I'm all for it.
I think so, I kinda feel like telemachus is the thematic successor of Polites. His song that's coming up (at least in the old snippets) sounds and has lyrics that kinda reflect Polites in them.
@@AtomicFoxMimi ooo yes, especially the parts where it parallels about light "we can light up the world here's how to start" / "but boy i wish i could so i could bring the world some light"
It also shows that polites death has affected eurylochus's judgement because he is being extremely careful and questions every decision because he doesnt want what happened to polites to happen to Odysseus.
i love how it's reflected in some of the lyrics odysseus sings too :) "i still believe that we can be kind / lead from the heart / and see what starts" calling back to "whatever we face / we'll be fine if we're leading from the heart"
Plus did you hear the high harmonies during those lines that cut out as soon as Eury started singing? I swear to the stars that's Polites showing up in Ody's brain as a positive thing and then his *death* showing up in Eury's brain as a negative thing
Man I can't wait for when Telemachus befriends Athena and then we find out later from Jay that he used another chord progression from Open Arms in that song as well.
You’re an evil mastermind my good sir. Watching this video after the latest release is such a massive punch to the gut, it probably is starting to get a bit old but at this rate we will really need a therapy arc of sorts to recover from all the pain and misery! On a different note, I do love learning more and more about the backstory and creative process behind EPIC and look forwards to videos like this one, so thank you for sharing with us!
Things like this is why I'm absolutely obsessed with this musical. It would have been easy to NOT add these little details but you DID. I love trying to listen and find them. I love when you make these videos to talk about them. It shows how much you absolutely love what your doing and it's hard not to love it too.
How convenient for this short to come up as I’m binging animatics of Luck Runs Out and listening to it on repeat this whole day. I love musical nods like this!! It’s part of the reason I fight for this series with people even when they put down some of the lyrics. Lyrics can whatever but the instrumental SLAPS
0:39 YOU KEEP HITTING US WITH OUR SOFTIE STOP IT PLEASE😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 0:45 OMG. Odysseus: where is this coming from my friend? Eurylochus: I just don’t wanna see another life end. p-p-polites??
I have freaked out over different hidden bits in epic and stuff AT LEAST 5 times today. All my friends know because I won’t stop updating them about it. This is torture
Jorge, your attention to detail in your work is so amazing. I love it when you share the stuff you hide in the songs because seeing your joy and passion in your work brings me so happiest ❤
JORGE I FOUND ONE, In Horse and the Infant, the way Zeus said, a vision, cannot be outrun, and I don't think you're ready, IN Mutiny, Eurylochus sings similar to Zeus when he said and hunger is so heavy..., and then Zeus showed up the next song 😮😮😮❤❤❤
I adore that you not only madeall these musical references but that you're also pointing these out, because yes, fuinding them on our own is fun, but there's the risk that we miss them.
I just stumbled into your music and i love it. I checked how many songs are out there and got to this video. These musical-ish songs with your voice and the voice from the other singers combined with the old stories rewritten in a new version are wonderful to listen to. I also like the way your being happy and hyped about your work (and you really can be^^). It is so delightful and i can feel how your energy gets to me. It may sounds a bit odd (i am just re-reading my comment), but i just want to tell you, that I really love your work and good nature. Hopefully you produce more of this stories/music and it is profitable to you, without loosing the reason/vision of your doing. Keep your spark ❤️
I should say, I'm amazed with how you sharing small details with your audience, like we're your closest friends. And I'm in love in how you obsessed with your own project to adding such a small but meaningful things, it's so cool I can't describe. You're the best, thank you so much for your work🩷🩷🩷
I always knew Polites had a lasting effect on Odysseus because of the line "I still believe in goodness, I still believe that we can be kind," it's basically Ody's way of remembering Polites
"Lead from the heart and see what starts" calling back to " we’ll be fine if we’re leading from the heart" showing how one character impacts another as well.
You gotta respect the guy for adding so much detail into the music, I absolutely love it lol and listening to the music I’m like “I’ve read the Oddessy so I know how this ends BUT WTF THIS MUSIC MAKES ALL OF THIS SO MUCH SADDER!!!”
The fact that you can realise that Ody is thinking of Polities at that moment WHITHOUT knowing a lick of music proves how legendary this musical is. You are a GENIUS my friend 🫡
i also like how there's still a difference between the two chord progressions- when odysseus adapts it to his own song, it still has a brisk, strong and urgent feel that feels so inherently odysseus (versus polites' original chord progression being a little more broken up and fluid and relaxed)
That's awesome. I wanna ask though. In the original Odyssey, Polyphemus curses Odysseus to be the only one of his crew who makes it back to Ithaca alive. In the song Polyphemus when Polyphemus says "You will be the final man to die" is that a reference to that or a completely random coincidence that just fits? Love Epic btw!
Every time I listen to a fast piano (i.e. the beginning of Ruthlessness) I think about Athena. I think she never really left him after her goodbye, but still watches and protects him from afar...
You are a very evil man Mr Jalapeño. Also love how the tune in this song as “How much longer ‘til your luck runs out?” has the same tune as “How are we supposed to trust you now?” and “How much longer must I suffer now?” in Mutiny. It really nails in these moments where the crew has the most doubt in Odysseus throughout the musical.
Jorge you are actually so smart and talented. I Lowkey look up to you. You think so much about how to put little details into this masterpiece. I love you 🫡❤️
I was literally just listening to these two songs and noticing the connections here!!! 😭 I’ve also been trying to decide if any of Polites’s instruments play during “I still believe in goodness…and see what starts”?
Jay's doing the foreshadowing thingy again, I can feel it in my headphones-😓🎧✨ Also Jay, with all these Polites (RIP buddy🥲) fun facts comings to light, I can see why our waterworks are not stopping anytime soon-😭🙏🏽🎶✨
I have been holding this in since I first watched the video about the ‘danger in nearby’ motif, but WHY, Jay, WHY… is the ‘danger is nearby motif’ in Warrior of the Mind, when Odysseus Athena sing: Odysseus: ‘show yourself. I know you’re watching me show yourself. I can see you’ Athena: ‘how can you see through my spell?’ O: ‘haha I was lying and you fell for my bluff….ahaha’ 😏 The motif is in both of the versions…..WHY?????????!!!!!!!!!
Oh my god that hurts so much! But now I have to know in Thunder Bringer the first tune that starts it sounds like Athena‘s goodbye when she says ‘this way!’ Please tell me if I’m wrong, but that is what it sounds like and me and my friend nearly flipped our chairs!
![“Waiting” | Underworld:Epic The Musical Animatic [Hazbin Hotel]](/img/1.gif)
STOP BULLYING US WITH POLITES MR JALAPENO THE PAIN IS TOO MUCH
YESS I AGREEE
RIGHTTTT LIKE WHEN HE SAID ABOUT OPEN ARMS I SWEAR I FELT MU HEART HURTINGGG
….💔
FOR REAL
It's jalaPAINo for a reason
DEAR GOD JAY PLEASE STOP TORTURING US WITH POLITES
He cant stop and wont stop 😔
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT HE REFUSES 😭
MANNN THE MAN IS NON-STOP!
FR
IK RIGHT LIKE CMONN
Odysseus hit Euryluchous with the "bro what are you doing"
Lolz
‘And *why*’
"What the hell is wrong with you-"
"I like making people cry bc of polites"- jay at some point during the making of this video
Fr
“How much longer til your luck runs out?”
2 songs.
Fr😂
OW
"Wut" - Eurylochus, Storm, Ocean Saga
FR!
Yups.
STOP BRINGING HIM UP I'M GOING TO CRY 😭😭😭
SAME 😭
FR!
LIKE FIRST IT WAS THE SIREN AND NOW THIS 😭😭😭 WHATS NEXT
I ALREADY AM 😭
@@PeRCyakaSeAWeEdBrAiN How's Annabeth? And same.
“Meh probably not!” Jorge we know exactly what you’re doing💀✨
Wait what is jorge doing
@@n1ghtv0yag3r Odysseus and Telemachus have a lasting affect on Athena
@@Thtgirlzaylee oh.
@@n1ghtv0yag3ror Athena will have a lasting effect on Telemachus in the wisdom saga 🐸
@@puppyshots1273 or Odysseus will have a lasting effect on both Telemachus and Athena!
😓 each of these fun facts make EPIC more depressing each time I listen to it again
Yea...
The fun facts are not so fun
Fun Fact: Jorge gains more power the more Polites is brought up
✨️the power of friendship✨️
✨ *The Power of making us sad by bringing up Polites to whole time* ✨
✨️The power of Jay making us cry✨️
✨the power of pancake polites✨
✨ RIP polites, you would’ve loved my little pony✨
@@LivesInHerBooksit’s not a competition, but you win XDD
Oh my gosh, Jay is a musical genius. This makes Crashite's animation hit so much harder cause right before this Eurylochus reaches for Polites' headband which Odysseus is using as a hair band. This musical keeps finding new ways to make me cry and I'm all for it.
Imagine if Polites' chord progression comes up in Telemachus' song. I would actually be bawling.. no I would be BALLING
I think so, I kinda feel like telemachus is the thematic successor of Polites. His song that's coming up (at least in the old snippets) sounds and has lyrics that kinda reflect Polites in them.
@@AtomicFoxMimi ooo yes, especially the parts where it parallels about light "we can light up the world here's how to start" / "but boy i wish i could so i could bring the world some light"
WE GET OUR SUNSHINE BOY BACK
polites’ current legacy is literally just the ability to single-handedly make us sad with musical references
It also shows that polites death has affected eurylochus's judgement because he is being extremely careful and questions every decision because he doesnt want what happened to polites to happen to Odysseus.
I love Luck Runs Out, keep up the good work Mr Jalapeño
Of course Polites lives on through all the memories he left behind 😭😭😭
Edit: spelling
*notif from jay*
NO WISDOM SAGA...
he announced the date!!
YASSSS @@rand0mly_avah
Jay keeps making us wait for the wisdom saga and torturing us with polities in the meantime
i love how it's reflected in some of the lyrics odysseus sings too :)
"i still believe that we can be kind / lead from the heart / and see what starts" calling back to "whatever we face / we'll be fine if we're leading from the heart"
Plus did you hear the high harmonies during those lines that cut out as soon as Eury started singing? I swear to the stars that's Polites showing up in Ody's brain as a positive thing and then his *death* showing up in Eury's brain as a negative thing
Stop BREAKING MY HEART PLEASE MY LIFE ISNT AMAZING LIKE THIS 😭
This man has thought of EVERYTHING
Right?! Jorge is a genius!!
And the Wisdom Saga is like THREE WEEKS AWAY OMG!!
This might just be the cutest fucking fact ever 😭💗 long live Polites
The amount of detail and thought that went into this entire thing is insane! Amazing job Mr Jalapeño
Jay needs to start paying for my therapy if he continues to bring up Polites 😭
Man I can't wait for when Telemachus befriends Athena and then we find out later from Jay that he used another chord progression from Open Arms in that song as well.
“Meh, probably not”
*hurriedly tries to hide the entire song of Monster*
You’re an evil mastermind my good sir. Watching this video after the latest release is such a massive punch to the gut, it probably is starting to get a bit old but at this rate we will really need a therapy arc of sorts to recover from all the pain and misery! On a different note, I do love learning more and more about the backstory and creative process behind EPIC and look forwards to videos like this one, so thank you for sharing with us!
Things like this is why I'm absolutely obsessed with this musical. It would have been easy to NOT add these little details but you DID. I love trying to listen and find them. I love when you make these videos to talk about them. It shows how much you absolutely love what your doing and it's hard not to love it too.
How convenient for this short to come up as I’m binging animatics of Luck Runs Out and listening to it on repeat this whole day. I love musical nods like this!! It’s part of the reason I fight for this series with people even when they put down some of the lyrics. Lyrics can whatever but the instrumental SLAPS
All of these cool facts about the music just goes to show how much this means to him! It makes Epic that much enjoyable for us!
NOOOO NOT OUR BOY POLITIES AGAIN GIVING US PTSD FROM THE CYCLOPS SAGA 😭😭😭
0:39 YOU KEEP HITTING US WITH OUR SOFTIE STOP IT PLEASE😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
0:45 OMG.
Odysseus: where is this coming from my friend?
Eurylochus: I just don’t wanna see another life end.
p-p-polites??
HE'S HAUNTING THE NARRATIVE GRAHHHHH💔💔💔
Polites manage to be one of my favourite characters with so little appearances. Farewell my boy ❤
Ok well now I’m on the lookout for that specific thing. New side quest unlocked!
I have freaked out over different hidden bits in epic and stuff AT LEAST 5 times today. All my friends know because I won’t stop updating them about it. This is torture
IF WE KEEP THE LUCK RUNS OUT MOTIF I'LL BE SO HAPPY
Jorge, your attention to detail in your work is so amazing. I love it when you share the stuff you hide in the songs because seeing your joy and passion in your work brings me so happiest ❤
Jorge is the only one where I get a notification and I immediately click to watch😂
FR
Jorge and Ryan Reynolds 😂International treasures
This is so cool! And I’m excited!! :DD
I was just listening to Luck Runs out-
"Meh, probably not"
Yes, absoluately yes.
Jay out here sending us on yet another scavenger hunt for repeating motifs/cord progressions. This man does not sleep, so neither shall we I suppose
JORGE I FOUND ONE, In Horse and the Infant, the way Zeus said, a vision, cannot be outrun, and I don't think you're ready, IN Mutiny, Eurylochus sings similar to Zeus when he said and hunger is so heavy..., and then Zeus showed up the next song 😮😮😮❤❤❤
This song is my favorite. Luck Runs Out is so important to me. Thank you for sharing these tidbits.
Why do you keep haunting us with polites 😭😭
Knowing this makes me love the two songs so much more than I already do. :3
Istg Jay just loves torturing his fan base and I’m honestly here for it 😂
I adore that you not only madeall these musical references but that you're also pointing these out, because yes, fuinding them on our own is fun, but there's the risk that we miss them.
1:12 now just because you said that I am getting scared.
1:05
He just likes to torture us 😭
POLITES 🥺
The man did it again, folks. 😭 (Yet again another Open arms connection)
I love your Chanel and songs its given me a lot of inspiration and enjoyment
I just stumbled into your music and i love it.
I checked how many songs are out there and got to this video.
These musical-ish songs with your voice and the voice from the other singers combined with the old stories rewritten in a new version are wonderful to listen to.
I also like the way your being happy and hyped about your work (and you really can be^^). It is so delightful and i can feel how your energy gets to me.
It may sounds a bit odd (i am just re-reading my comment), but i just want to tell you, that I really love your work and good nature.
Hopefully you produce more of this stories/music and it is profitable to you, without loosing the reason/vision of your doing.
Keep your spark ❤️
Oh, Jay, you are TOO MUCH OF A TEASE
Your amount of attention to detail is unbelievably fun
my love for Epic just keeps growing🥺💗
I should say, I'm amazed with how you sharing small details with your audience, like we're your closest friends. And I'm in love in how you obsessed with your own project to adding such a small but meaningful things, it's so cool I can't describe. You're the best, thank you so much for your work🩷🩷🩷
Ironically, I never notice the chords changes. But the line when Ody confront eury about being kind ACTUALLY makes me remind of Polites.
I always knew Polites had a lasting effect on Odysseus because of the line "I still believe in goodness, I still believe that we can be kind," it's basically Ody's way of remembering Polites
I agree!
No lie I wish you'd make a video explaining each song because it's so cool hearing about your thought process when making each song.
"Lead from the heart and see what starts" calling back to " we’ll be fine if we’re leading from the heart" showing how one character impacts another as well.
Probably not… I will be listening to the Wisdom saga so closely
THE CONEXION IS SO GOOD, I LOVE YOU JAY
You gotta respect the guy for adding so much detail into the music, I absolutely love it lol and listening to the music I’m like “I’ve read the Oddessy so I know how this ends BUT WTF THIS MUSIC MAKES ALL OF THIS SO MUCH SADDER!!!”
My corkboard of lore and theories just never stops growing with this one
And the beginning of Survive is similar to Mutiny as well. I guess Odysseus had a lasting effect on his crew
Mr. Jalapeno has a different definition of 'fun' I think
Damn... the friendship chords
This made me happy. All these little details are amazing
It’s really amazing how much Jay thinks about all of these things
This is one of my favorite musicals ❤
WHY ARE U SO HAPPY WITH URSELF MR JALAPEÑO? the fact that u r a genius doesn't give u the right to torture us with ur genius musical things!!!!
The fact that you can realise that Ody is thinking of Polities at that moment WHITHOUT knowing a lick of music proves how legendary this musical is. You are a GENIUS my friend 🫡
Then in Mutiny they just said "yea, your luck run out, and now hit the chords like you did on the wall when you dropped a minoooooooooooooooooooooor"
i love this concept album so much i swearr
IM GONNA CRY STOPPPPP, POLITES HAS A LASTING EFFECT ON ALL OF USSS 😭😭😭😭
See I might not understand music but I do notice slight things like that in many many songs and it just adds so much to it
i also like how there's still a difference between the two chord progressions- when odysseus adapts it to his own song, it still has a brisk, strong and urgent feel that feels so inherently odysseus (versus polites' original chord progression being a little more broken up and fluid and relaxed)
That's awesome. I wanna ask though. In the original Odyssey, Polyphemus curses Odysseus to be the only one of his crew who makes it back to Ithaca alive. In the song Polyphemus when Polyphemus says "You will be the final man to die" is that a reference to that or a completely random coincidence that just fits? Love Epic btw!
Love Epic!! One min ago!
Before watching this, im guessing, there will be a cover art reveal
God dammit I was wrong
Sadly no😢
The description of the video already told us no but good guess
I hope so!
JAY WHY DOEA YOUR MUSIC HAVR TO BE SO AMAZING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
THE KING HAS POSTED
Damn, I still continue to be impressed by how much thought went into making each and every song!
but I also can't stop thinking about
"yeet the baby"
Every time I listen to a fast piano (i.e. the beginning of Ruthlessness) I think about Athena. I think she never really left him after her goodbye, but still watches and protects him from afar...
You are a very evil man Mr Jalapeño.
Also love how the tune in this song as “How much longer ‘til your luck runs out?” has the same tune as “How are we supposed to trust you now?” and “How much longer must I suffer now?” in Mutiny. It really nails in these moments where the crew has the most doubt in Odysseus throughout the musical.
Jay's enjoying our torment so much, he's having so much fun being just a little evil
Jorge you are actually so smart and talented. I Lowkey look up to you. You think so much about how to put little details into this masterpiece. I love you 🫡❤️
You gotta stop doing this to us Mr.Jalapeño, you have tortured us enough!
I was literally just listening to these two songs and noticing the connections here!!! 😭 I’ve also been trying to decide if any of Polites’s instruments play during “I still believe in goodness…and see what starts”?
Jay's doing the foreshadowing thingy again, I can feel it in my headphones-😓🎧✨
Also Jay, with all these Polites (RIP buddy🥲) fun facts comings to light, I can see why our waterworks are not stopping anytime soon-😭🙏🏽🎶✨
I have been holding this in since I first watched the video about the ‘danger in nearby’ motif, but WHY, Jay, WHY… is the ‘danger is nearby motif’ in Warrior of the Mind, when Odysseus Athena sing:
Odysseus: ‘show yourself. I know you’re watching me show yourself. I can see you’
Athena: ‘how can you see through my spell?’
O: ‘haha I was lying and you fell for my bluff….ahaha’ 😏
The motif is in both of the versions…..WHY?????????!!!!!!!!!
My heart is dying you gotta stop mr Jalapeño😭
STOP! Please, for the love of all the gods, leave Polites and our hearts to rest.
P.S. Please don't stop, Mr. Jalapeño, we love the pain.
gahhh i love eurylochus and ody’s friendship so much
Oh my god that hurts so much! But now I have to know in Thunder Bringer the first tune that starts it sounds like Athena‘s goodbye when she says ‘this way!’
Please tell me if I’m wrong, but that is what it sounds like and me and my friend nearly flipped our chairs!
I love this details and the fact that Mr jalapeño shares it with the fandom, I love being part it this community:D
1:07 DAMN YOU JAY *SCREAMS IN HAVING LISTENED TO "LOVE IN PARADISE"*
I love how Odysseus had a huge impact on Telemachus without even being there.