Thanks for the video! Long range FPV works great with planes and people who have enough courage 😀 For drones it is good to pay attention on the VTX antenna placement which could be hidden behind a big lipo that we put there, so you do not have surprise when turning back. Longer antenna helps. Also often GPS could be located to close to lipo so your magnetometer will not work and will bring your quad to some random location on RTH. With analog using ground station with high gain antennas (could be wireless) is very helpful. Going to 1.2 ghz for analog is also an option to have very long range.
It is just too expensive for a 15-year-old like me. I have been trying to get into the hobby since I was 13 but I just have enough. Thaks for the vid thought! Keep it up!
Cheef dont give up! I was trying to get into the hobby 17 years!!!! Now i have family 2 kids and finally can afford what i wanted. Joy from flying is enormous. As DC said - start small , find cheap radiomaster controller , and practice on sym... next will be tiny whoop fly LOS and the most important - DO NOT GIVE UP ! NEVER EVER
DroneCamps took the words straight outta my mouth. Start small. You can get a TX16S and Fatshark or Skyzone goggles on the used market in the sub $150 price range each. Analogue video isn't as pretty, but definitely affordable and sufficient for reaching long range. I would suggest cruising the used market for a lot of your gear on the ground, and save your money for building a model you really want to fly.
I forgot to add that I already had dji v2 glasses. If I were buying equipment now, it would without a doubt be a walksnail. but unfortunately the choice has already been made, you have to use what you have.
LONG RANGE Got me interested From a Video of DJI MINI FLYING ACROSS SEVEN MILE BRIDGE over water and Back. Had to get one. and Larger Quads Flying Many miles and back with xtra batteries. All Transmitters should Have Built in screen to Eliminate need of Phone or Pad. With external output for larger monitor and Recording.
Hi Justin, Great video and review. I started with the Darwin 129 7in, I had to many issues with the GPS to fly long range, so I built a Source one 7in, and went with better quality electronics. I also have a 2.5w vtx but my only problem is noise from the motor. Thanks for the video and information about your Gear for long range flying.
I have my eye on the MOZ7. I have a Flywoo LR4 O3 and I love cruising. I kind of want to go faster over the treetops and not worry about wind as well. The MOZ7 looks like it can go pretty quick!
So what’s the best first hd drone for discovering what I enjoy? Mainly drawn to out door flying and long range sounds appealing eventually. I just want to fly, not really in it for the cinematography. If a small indoor had drone is better to learn I would be open to that also.
For a beginner with no tech knowlege or inclination to build one (or patience). The complete drone package kits are already matched components ready to go. Of couse your not going to get high quality HD with long range, it's just starter system. 2 - 300.00 is cheap but maybe limited upgradabiliy.
@@buysomerice Maybe a 4" longrange Kwad like the Flywoo explorer would do the job. If you like to explore while developing more skills this would be a fun and less noicy, expensive, dangerous option.
The croc walk snail version seems to have vanished? I was last building long range fpv drones in 2014, and looking to get back into things. This video was a great jumping point for where current tech stands. I'm leaning towards the walk snail over DJI, but anything will be better than the large lcd screen in a box and a fresnel lens I used to use lol.
what module should I buy for my Radiomaster tx16s if I were to buy the geprc mark4? l built my first 5 inch drone a couple months ago, but am still unsure when it comes to what parts are compatible.
Im looking to get a long range drone that’s easy to travel for mainly mountain cruzing. Would a 7 inch drone be a good mix of flight time and portability?
With GoPro 6" or even 5" with Lion Battery's would do the Job. Maybe not 8km but at least 2-3km is easy achievable. Without GoPro 4" would be the nicest size to travel with.
I’m looking for a prebuilt drone that will get me a few Kilometers out initially, but can go much farther as I gain more experience. I have a feeling that the DJI ban just might go through and I’d like to be ready with a non DJI system if that happens. After watching many videos about various types of FPV drones I’m actually optimistic about the future. If I wanted to get some simulator time, what non DJI controller would I need? Btw - I enjoy your videos.
Go Analog. It doesn’t need to be updated or registered to a company’s servers. Any analog systems will be future proof. There is a new Analog ecosystem coming out from a company at the end of this month.
@@dronecamps cool, thats gonna help me decide if I wanna pick one up or not as Im hoping for an upgrade over the V2 Pro Starlight Walksnail Cam! Thanks Camps 👊👍👍🇺🇸
Hey Justin did you check out the new iflight and 2raw Hellion? Dont know if i spelled that right... but anyway that thing looks like a beast!!! 2024 im definetly getting at least a 10" monster. I always hear about the 7" death wobble. Whats up with that? Can you tune that out???
The new “Afterburner” looks heavy to me. Carbon potato? I dunno. And Helion has a lot of issues. 7” can be tuned if you know what you’re doing for sure
I just don't get something, when flying long range, are people always flying in acro mode ? Or there is anoyther mode ? I'm only training in the sim atm so not sure about that. Nice vid btw
Any chance you have the foxxer 5w vtx? Can it fit inside the mark4 lr8? The 2.5w vtx doesn't put out its stated power. I get 2 miles out and get snow. I live in the desert so dry air and nothing taller than a bush in my flying area. I threw in a o3 for now but I want analog 😂 I have a mountain to visit. 10 miles away
It could be sketchy yes. You would want to keep a high altitude on return. It works as long as you have a proper tested gps setup. You can hear it coming back, descend, and then LOS land it.
LMAO Dude 55.5 is so little recoil and you can get such compact Firearms chambered in 55.6 that I would say an AR-15 chambered in 55.6 is ENTERY LEVEL for Short/Long Barrel rifles
Great video packed with tons of information🍻. I wonder of there is a way to shrink starlink antenna down so it can only transmit video and telm🤔 I wish I could talk with Elon😅 got to be a way to have a drone get HD video unlimited range 🤷🏻♂️ because I'm guessing what makes the starlink ground antenna is so big is because they need the bandwidth for a house right if you only need video and telm I feel the antennas can be way smaller
@@dronecampsi would be like I wanna go to Florida set the drone to fly check back on it in a week be like "sweet I'm in Florida let me go explore" think about for people who are bed ridden man could change people's lives
Also the atomic batteries are an old invention, but used to be large bulky. Their smaller now but still incredibly limited on/in power output. Maybe microelectronics but not motors or thermal, even light output (led) might be pushing limitations.
@@dananorth895 I'm hoping for solid state batteries to be sorted soon that's where I think we move forward to the next tech era I feel starlink could do some crazy stuff if they wanted to have someone develope the tech
Actually an AR 15 is a very good beginner gun, the cartridge is, contrary to what they want you to believe, one of the lowest power rifle cartridges with very low recoil. You should have said a 300 win mag or 50 BMG. Great video though.
I was about to point that out. It's low recoil and small caliber varmint round makes it easy for joe civilian off the street to hit targets out to 600 yards. It also made it easier for women to join the military.
You said fat shark recon . Fat shark recon echo is new analog recon . And fat shark recon hd is walksnail hd . I heard walksnail overheats and shuts off 😮. Goes black . Hd takes 5 minutes to start up again and 1 minute to overheat
man those 8" drone batteries are super expensive! cant i go just as far with just as long of flight time on a 5" build with much smaller/cheaper batteries?
im really liking the Geprc Mark4 LR8 with ELRS 915 receiver. with that setup whats the cheapest controller you would recommend? do i absolutely need a module like the bandit to fly ELRS 915?@@dronecamps
thanks sir. the only $99 version i see is the CC2500 protocol version. is this the one you're recommending? or do you know of an ELRS version somewhere for 99$@@dronecamps
You can get pretty far with a simple 6s 18650 Lion Pack on a 5". Be aware that maybe You will have to reduce throttle output if the amps are to high. In my experience i get arround 7-12min. (depends on the flight style) on my 5" with Lion's. And no throttle cut necessary for my setup with 2200kv fortunately.
The first time gun owner analogy is nonsense. AR-15s are ergonomic and intuitive. They are very friendly for beginners, and extremely easy to use safely. The safety is literally right under your thumb. They are not advanced weapons - the military issues similar rifles to idiot 18 year old privates; they're intentionally idiot-proof. I would know because I was an idiot infantry private. A old-timey Colt Single Action Army 1873 revolver, on the other hand, is a confusing, awkward, and dangerous headache. It's easy to make a bad mistake. Just ask Alec Baldwin.
Typical human infantile/adosolent behavior. Nobody wants to be responsible/culpable for their words/actions. Or to do hard work/research for the reward/purse/prize. All about something for nothing, they deserve as much!
Thanks for the video!
Long range FPV works great with planes and people who have enough courage 😀
For drones it is good to pay attention on the VTX antenna placement which could be hidden behind a big lipo that we put there, so you do not have surprise when turning back. Longer antenna helps.
Also often GPS could be located to close to lipo so your magnetometer will not work and will bring your quad to some random location on RTH.
With analog using ground station with high gain antennas (could be wireless) is very helpful. Going to 1.2 ghz for analog is also an option to have very long range.
It is just too expensive for a 15-year-old like me. I have been trying to get into the hobby since I was 13 but I just have enough. Thaks for the vid thought! Keep it up!
Start small.
Cheef dont give up! I was trying to get into the hobby 17 years!!!! Now i have family 2 kids and finally can afford what i wanted. Joy from flying is enormous. As DC said - start small , find cheap radiomaster controller , and practice on sym... next will be tiny whoop fly LOS and the most important - DO NOT GIVE UP ! NEVER EVER
@@zibixxx1 thanks man it means a lot!
Long range is great on a 4" too! Keep it up!
DroneCamps took the words straight outta my mouth. Start small. You can get a TX16S and Fatshark or Skyzone goggles on the used market in the sub $150 price range each. Analogue video isn't as pretty, but definitely affordable and sufficient for reaching long range. I would suggest cruising the used market for a lot of your gear on the ground, and save your money for building a model you really want to fly.
I forgot to add that I already had dji v2 glasses. If I were buying equipment now, it would without a doubt be a walksnail. but unfortunately the choice has already been made, you have to use what you have.
LONG RANGE
Got me interested
From a Video of DJI MINI FLYING ACROSS
SEVEN MILE BRIDGE
over water and Back.
Had to get one.
and Larger Quads Flying Many miles
and back with xtra batteries.
All Transmitters should
Have Built in screen to
Eliminate need of Phone or Pad. With external output for larger monitor and
Recording.
8000mah 6s2p molicell is best battery pack for 7inch fpv drone long range without GoPro?
Hi Justin, Great video and review. I started with the Darwin 129 7in, I had to many issues with the GPS to fly long range, so I built a Source one 7in, and went with better quality electronics. I also have a 2.5w vtx but my only problem is noise from the motor. Thanks for the video and information about your Gear for long range flying.
Might be if VTX is mounted directly on frame without isolation, twisting video wires can help as well
Right in time 😂 I've just plugged in a brand new long range 3000 mah to charge and opened the YT to watch something while waiting 😂
I have my eye on the MOZ7. I have a Flywoo LR4 O3 and I love cruising. I kind of want to go faster over the treetops and not worry about wind as well. The MOZ7 looks like it can go pretty quick!
Not bad. It has a good tune on it.
my choice is tern lr40 with o3. I know it's not the longest-range device, but it's not big, it's quiet, and it's not very noticeable.
Every quad has it's own purpose. 👍🏻
Awesome video! It would be great if you could make a beginners guide for LR fpv
That's some great advice! I just started flying far 😁
So what’s the best first hd drone for discovering what I enjoy? Mainly drawn to out door flying and long range sounds appealing eventually. I just want to fly, not really in it for the cinematography. If a small indoor had drone is better to learn I would be open to that also.
For a beginner with no tech knowlege or inclination to build one (or patience). The complete drone package kits are already matched components ready to go. Of couse your not going to get high quality HD with long range, it's just starter system. 2 - 300.00 is cheap but maybe limited upgradabiliy.
@@buysomerice Maybe a 4" longrange Kwad like the Flywoo explorer would do the job. If you like to explore while developing more skills this would be a fun and less noicy, expensive, dangerous option.
The croc walk snail version seems to have vanished?
I was last building long range fpv drones in 2014, and looking to get back into things. This video was a great jumping point for where current tech stands.
I'm leaning towards the walk snail over DJI, but anything will be better than the large lcd screen in a box and a fresnel lens I used to use lol.
what module should I buy for my Radiomaster tx16s if I were to buy the geprc mark4? l built my first 5 inch drone a couple months ago, but am still unsure when it comes to what parts are compatible.
I injoy all your videos. Thanks !
Do you think that these drones would benefit from AOS Supernova 2807 motors ?
Thanks so much for this video .
Great information cool channel
Is the nomad module compatible with this setUp? Thank you
Im looking to get a long range drone that’s easy to travel for mainly mountain cruzing. Would a 7 inch drone be a good mix of flight time and portability?
Yes 🙌🏻
With GoPro 6" or even 5" with Lion Battery's would do the Job. Maybe not 8km but at least 2-3km is easy achievable. Without GoPro 4" would be the nicest size to travel with.
I’m looking for a prebuilt drone that will get me a few Kilometers out initially, but can go much farther as I gain more experience. I have a feeling that the DJI ban just might go through and I’d like to be ready with a non DJI system if that happens. After watching many videos about various types of FPV drones I’m actually optimistic about the future.
If I wanted to get some simulator time, what non DJI controller would I need?
Btw - I enjoy your videos.
Go Analog. It doesn’t need to be updated or registered to a company’s servers. Any analog systems will be future proof. There is a new Analog ecosystem coming out from a company at the end of this month.
Very nice video 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching 🤙🏼✨✨✨
Where is that new Caddix Moonlight camera that you were putting out?
Delay on that we got a bad prototype. Waiting for a new one this week.
@@dronecamps cool, thats gonna help me decide if I wanna pick one up or not as Im hoping for an upgrade over the V2 Pro Starlight Walksnail Cam! Thanks Camps 👊👍👍🇺🇸
Hey Justin did you check out the new iflight and 2raw Hellion? Dont know if i spelled that right... but anyway that thing looks like a beast!!! 2024 im definetly getting at least a 10" monster. I always hear about the 7" death wobble. Whats up with that? Can you tune that out???
The new “Afterburner” looks heavy to me. Carbon potato? I dunno. And Helion has a lot of issues.
7” can be tuned if you know what you’re doing for sure
I just don't get something, when flying long range, are people always flying in acro mode ? Or there is anoyther mode ? I'm only training in the sim atm so not sure about that.
Nice vid btw
Usually acro yes.
Acro is the go to mode for 99% of the pilots and clips You will see online. First might be trouble but the control You will get is worth it.
Any chance you have the foxxer 5w vtx? Can it fit inside the mark4 lr8? The 2.5w vtx doesn't put out its stated power. I get 2 miles out and get snow. I live in the desert so dry air and nothing taller than a bush in my flying area. I threw in a o3 for now but I want analog 😂 I have a mountain to visit. 10 miles away
It should fit. There’s a good amount of room back there even if it hangs out a bit
Better antennas? On both sending/ receiving units.
Wow I didnt even think about being able to fly back home using only you osd. I can see how thats do able. But man that would be sketchy AF
It could be sketchy yes. You would want to keep a high altitude on return. It works as long as you have a proper tested gps setup. You can hear it coming back, descend, and then LOS land it.
Is the Boxer radio the ELRS or 4 in 1 version to be able to use a ELRS module?
I.m thinking about getting into fpv
never to late to join 😊
LMAO Dude 55.5 is so little recoil and you can get such compact Firearms chambered in 55.6 that I would say an AR-15 chambered in 55.6 is ENTERY LEVEL for Short/Long Barrel rifles
Selling my 5 inch for a long range
can the beta fpv lite radio 3 elrs do long range? i bought that for simulator and i really want to do long range atleast 2kms distance
thanks!!
Great video packed with tons of information🍻. I wonder of there is a way to shrink starlink antenna down so it can only transmit video and telm🤔 I wish I could talk with Elon😅 got to be a way to have a drone get HD video unlimited range 🤷🏻♂️ because I'm guessing what makes the starlink ground antenna is so big is because they need the bandwidth for a house right if you only need video and telm I feel the antennas can be way smaller
Thanks and I like your Starlink idea. Another wild thing I saw recently was a battery technology that would let us stay airborne indefinately. 😲
@@dronecampsi would be like I wanna go to Florida set the drone to fly check back on it in a week be like "sweet I'm in Florida let me go explore" think about for people who are bed ridden man could change people's lives
The size of the antenna is about good connection between devices. It has little to do with how much data is being transmitted.
Also the atomic batteries are an old invention, but used to be large bulky. Their smaller now but still incredibly limited on/in power output.
Maybe microelectronics but not motors or thermal, even light output (led) might be pushing limitations.
@@dananorth895 I'm hoping for solid state batteries to be sorted soon that's where I think we move forward to the next tech era I feel starlink could do some crazy stuff if they wanted to have someone develope the tech
Actually an AR 15 is a very good beginner gun, the cartridge is, contrary to what they want you to believe, one of the lowest power rifle cartridges with very low recoil. You should have said a 300 win mag or 50 BMG. Great video though.
I was thinking like a kids beginner gun. Bb or .22
I was about to point that out. It's low recoil and small caliber varmint round makes it easy for joe civilian off the street to hit targets out to 600 yards. It also made it easier for women to join the military.
@@jblb42 9mm go boom
You said fat shark recon . Fat shark recon echo is new analog recon . And fat shark recon hd is walksnail hd . I heard walksnail overheats and shuts off 😮. Goes black . Hd takes 5 minutes to start up again and 1 minute to overheat
man those 8" drone batteries are super expensive! cant i go just as far with just as long of flight time on a 5" build with much smaller/cheaper batteries?
No
im really liking the Geprc Mark4 LR8 with ELRS 915 receiver. with that setup whats the cheapest controller you would recommend? do i absolutely need a module like the bandit to fly ELRS 915?@@dronecamps
Boxer at $99 then get a bandit
thanks sir. the only $99 version i see is the CC2500 protocol version. is this the one you're recommending? or do you know of an ELRS version somewhere for 99$@@dronecamps
You can get pretty far with a simple 6s 18650 Lion Pack on a 5". Be aware that maybe You will have to reduce throttle output if the amps are to high. In my experience i get arround 7-12min. (depends on the flight style) on my 5" with Lion's. And no throttle cut necessary for my setup with 2200kv fortunately.
Whats the range of this antena thing?
Depends on analog/digital, frequencies, power output, antennas, signal to noise (interference).
And of couse legal restrictions.
The first time gun owner analogy is nonsense. AR-15s are ergonomic and intuitive. They are very friendly for beginners, and extremely easy to use safely. The safety is literally right under your thumb. They are not advanced weapons - the military issues similar rifles to idiot 18 year old privates; they're intentionally idiot-proof. I would know because I was an idiot infantry private.
A old-timey Colt Single Action Army 1873 revolver, on the other hand, is a confusing, awkward, and dangerous headache. It's easy to make a bad mistake. Just ask Alec Baldwin.
Alec refuses all responsibility 😐
Typical human infantile/adosolent behavior. Nobody wants to be responsible/culpable for their words/actions. Or to do hard work/research for the reward/purse/prize. All about something for nothing, they deserve as much!
🤝😎
I just have VR google for the drones