Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Japanese Grand Prix
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Can we talk about how Kmag did this on a 1 stop? A haas doing a 1 stop in Japan is something that no-one would have seen. Plus the pitstop scramble kinda boned him.
Neither Matt or Tommy understands racing it seems. Herp derp quali that herp derp race result that. They don't bother looking into the actual stuff that happened during the race.
They have been rushing videos lately. I’m not surprise honestly.
@@CHRoOMAX agree! see my comment too.
@@CHRoOMAX why are you even here?
Ocon was overtaken 13 times, he didn't have 13 overtakes, that Alpine is an absolute tractor and the strategy didn't help.
I was scratching my head at that stat too.
Come on Matt & Tommy, don’t be lazy. Give us the total average scores every week !
I think they could show the running stats at the end via the editor, but likely not be able to talk about them in the video as their ratings aren't really locked in by the time they shoot and sometimes change during discussion.
@StevieNockman you need new parents
And some people want team ratings as well... they'd be drowned in numbers.
With how up & down Lance has been this season, (I’ll call it the Strollercoaster) I’m expecting him to do well in China.
But for the love of god he can’t be eliminated in Q1 again.
And a 3 race sliding average to keep track of trends. :D
"unfortunately for Bottas it was a pit stop battle"😆
It's accurate, prior to the second pit stop he was holding off Tsunoda who couldn't catch him, mind you Tsunoda couldn't pass Sargeant either, weird how his mediocre performance is being celebrated.
Yuki is getting everything out of that RB. No way could he get any higher unless another top team driver is struggling with lots of damage or straight up retires. 10/10 from me, he is getting every point possible
If it wasn't for the teams super effort in the second pit stop, Yuki wouldn't be anywhere near tenth. He struggled to pass Sargeant and Bottas.
@@dodgemF1even then it was more the other teams bottling their stops
Disagree, Yuki had a bad start and then ended up starting 12th on the restart. Meanwhile Bottas went from 13th to 10th. Bottas also was in front of Yuki the whole time getting up into 10th and Yuki just got luckier in the pits. Bottas had the best race for me today, just got screwed by his team of an easy points finish
Yes Yuki greatly benefited from the pit stop (which actually was mediocre but the other teams were really slow lol) but the team also screwed him with the tyre strategy and set up (the bad start wasn’t his fault, both drivers clearly had a bad setup) and also consequent strategy was also bad allowing undercuts. He ultimately did the best he could on the circuit including some key overtakes, really managing his tyres very well, so he did maximize the performance.
He also qualified P10 by his own merit.
What more could you have expected him to do? even if he had not finished in P10, he still would have deserved a strong rating.
@@ronan1686 Yuki had a good restart.
12th to 9th.
Magnussen was actually chosen by Haas to drive with a different setup in FP1 to test if they could get more out of the car. That didn't work, and after a FP2 with almost no running, he only had one session to get used to the car.
And he finished the race on a one stop strategy (med-Hard) pretty amateur rating...
@@jdwood577 Yes, I agree. Sometimes I think they should do some more research lol. He also only had one set of hards, which he said himself in an interview basically ruined his strategy.
These numbnuts have been showing a bias against Magnussen for 2 seasons. Kind of amateurish.
"While it's ferrari who made the strategy" ??? excuse me? Leclerc is the one who suggested the strat to begin with and refused the twostopper seeing his pace and deg. Nothing to do with clown Ferrari lol... Not even Leclercs biggest fan but that race was a masterclass from HIM and HIM alone lol.
Exactly
exactly, even f1 posted it on social media. I dont know why its so hard to do a little research before rating drivers
Except the 2 stop was the better strat. He did a great job making the 1 stopper work but it was still slower than a 2 stopper
@@sajjadhashmani4064 false... It literally proved to be better for Charles since he managed so well and got clean air and no compromise in putting him out in traffic. Leclerc had better racepace than Sainz on a twostopper lol... That should tell you something
well when you cosu that some say that Sainz ran 0.4 s faster than Leclerc we know who we are dealing with
Unfair that Bottas isn't getting an 8 or 9. How are teams with bad cars meant to get a good score if what Bottas just did was a 7. Easily an 8, possibly 9. Even worse after just hearing Yuki got a 10.
I suggest the DTS fans here go and watch Bottas' second stint, he drove really well and was making quick progression. Held off Sargeant and Tsunoda who struggled to get passed him. Was a points finishing race until the awful pitstop. Bravo for the recognition.
It's always like that in these ratings, they try to discount the bad cars but can't fully i guess
Yeap, if that was Max or Vettel in the Torro Rosso when they were there, they would have been competing with the Mercs and Astons every race at least.
Wish Lawson had gotten a chance instead of chasing that marketing money with Danny and we could have seen what that car could actually do.
@donaldfarquar we can't say that as we don't know how good the car actually is. There is an equal chance that Yuki is absolutely extracting the max of the machine, or both the drivers are not performing to the cars limits and based on the interview its mostly the former
@@066kshitizvsingh4 me when I know absolutely nothing
Magnussen was screwed over by the teams pit stop and lost two positions.
With the Haas top speed I think he could have stayed ahead of Tsunoda.
yeah and he only had one hard tire to use where everyone else had two so he was forced to do a one stop strategy
Ferrari may have come up with the strategy but it was Charles who was pushing to do the 1 stop. 9/10 for me
Charles was the one who suggested the strat tho, they were gonna do a two stop before he told them he wants one stop
We can’t give him a 9/10 when his Qualify was 8 on a car that deserves a Top 4 at the very least, when a Driver like Checo qualify lower than 2nd he gets slander and his grade drops so much no matter how many overtakes he does or even if he finishes 2nd why would we do different with the other drivers? Even if you want to use the RB rocket argument the Ferrari is better than Mercedes and McClaren no excuses to finish lower than 4th
@@WorldzWalker It is not about the position. Charles qualified like a tenth behind Carlos. Checo qualified 7 tenths behind Max at the last Japan GP. Yes Max is definitely better than Carlos but not by this huge amount that would explain this gap
Yeah it was pretty tough for him the car was obviously geared towards Max and not him but still. 7 and a half tenths is how much stroll was behind Alonso this qualifying and it got him a Q1 elimination
How the hell did Logan get a lower rating than Ricciardo????? Like yeah he went of at Degner 2, fair enough but you both entirely ignored the bad stop???
#stoploganhate
Because he's dogshit
he had a really good pace before that horrible pit stop too. Good pace and good overtakes
They just dont like Logan and it shows in their ratings for him.
And Albon who damaged another chassis for the second weekend in a row.
Drinking game idea. Take a shot everytime you hear “I’ve also gone for”
Matt and Tommy Australia: Max and Lewis should get N/A ratings because they went out at the very start of the race and scoring them will effect their end season scores. Also we should not punish drivers because of factors outside their control and we need to score slow cars higher based on performance.
Matt and Tommy in Japan: *_automatic 10/10 for Yuki, gives ratings to Ricciardo and Albon, trashes Logan Sargeant by habit, lower ratings to everyone else, forgets Charles cooked and made his own 1 stop strategy work_*
Well said and the exact comment i was looking for. Very hypocritical Matt and Tommy
Do Matt and Tommy suck at their job? They get a 2/10 from me unironically.
Difference is Verstappen and Hamilton were out of the race because of car troubles not because of on track action, Sargeant is trash so what is the trouble with that? Stop being buthurt and stop makeing stuff up, stay with the facts, and you'll see that you don't to be so upset.
Ah well, if you don't like Matt and Tommy there's always hundreds of other F1 youtube channels you can watch.
I feel that was a bit hard on KMag. Finished 1 place behind his teammate, did a completely unnoticed 1 stopper… I’d say Haas gets 6 all arounds
why is no one mentioning how logan's pit crew made him lose 4 positions coz of the timing in the pits? not to defend the poor mistakes, but it seems like everyone forgets the first half of the race where he actually showed some promise for once
I'm sorry but how does Valtteri get a 7 (6 from the fans?) while Yuki gets a 10 for a very similar performance, they were close all race and I'll argue that Yuki has the better car. As you said, Valtteri did very well and the team once again let him down. What more can he do with that shitbox?
Bottas destroyed Tsunoda in the second stint that's a fact.
The logan 3 and 2 is ridiculous. He was running 12th when they screwed up his race in the pits.
Just ignore the crash in FP1, the shite quail and putting in the gravel but yeah bad pit stop….
@Zootopia96 I mean that's all that kinda matters realistically is the actual race. If you can qualify last and still make up places in race with bad quali and practice. Yeah the race highly outweighs the rest of the weekend. A person crashing out in 1st lap in race shouldn't get more than a 3 or 4.
@@OveranalyzingEverything What’s the difference between making a mistake on lap 1 and making a mistake on lap 41? The net result is you’ve ruined your race. In fact I’d say it’s more excusable to have a racing incident with someone on the 1st lap than binning it by yourself for no reason in the middle of the race.
@Zootopia96 is it really though? I say in sports the person who finishes only one lap vs 40 had a better result. Sure the outcome was the same.
@@OveranalyzingEverything bro logan was just shit and people won't accept it, i dont get it he's arguably the worst driver on the grid, the crash in FP1 ist not excusable thats a mistake i did a few times in F1 23
Maybe after both drivers you could also add in a team rating for every race? Base it on strategies, pitstops, how the car was that weekend etc.etc.
Could have a driver's and constructors battle then and would be fun to see something like aston getting an 8 every week but stroll getting a 6 or the other way around with RB/ last yr ferrari
We suggest that every rating video and we still get ignored 😅
Logan deserved better than Ricc come on guys
💯
They just hate logan, idk why but they always blame him despite him doing very well this weekend. Williams ruined his race but they never acknowledge it. Honestly tired of how much they hate on him
Let's not forget he locked up at the end of the race
@@JIKwoodLogan isn't good enough for F1. Almost never has a problem free weekend. Has never beaten Albon in qualifying. He's slow and mentally weak.
@@norbertjanssen814 he had problem free weekends last year and this year. How about you stop spreading lies.
Why is it when sainz does a strat that the team decides on its automatically sainz who came up with it, and whenever leclerc is the one who suggests the best strat for him, its ferrari who came out with it, like even f1 posted the team radio of charles calling the strat in japan, like it would take no time to research that, and yet here we are.
feel like these guys aren’t really the most objective or factual opinions on the internet. still love their personalities but these oversight do get annoying
@@kaly3877 yeah, and its not the first time, iswear they get something wrong that would be easy to figure out with many dirvers each race weekend, i like their funny tweets segment but the rest is just so annoying, like you get to do this for a job, atleast do a little research if your going to do ratings, like how is logan lower than riccardo when he caused a big crash bcs he didnt look. and why is piastri a 7 and lando a 8, when lando 3 tenths ahead in quali and 17 secs in the race, like i dont even like lando and that is very unfair.
@@KiwiAlchemistaaverage Charles fangirl
@@F-F01 well im a boy but i guess idiots like you have never spoken to a woman so you cant tell what gender am i, and if being a leclerc fangirl means being right i dont get how thats an insult lol.
@@F-F01 im a boy, and yet every charles fangirl is smarter than you so theres that
i think it is a little unfair to rate drivers who go out on lap 1. When in your last rating you said max get either a 10 or N/A when we retired after lap 2.
First of it is all just banter, don't take it too serious
There is a difference between a mechanical dnf and a crash
Unless Bottas goes bowling again the driver often has some part in the crash
Albon could have been more careful, knowing Wiliams is already struggling with parts. Even if it was not his fault.
Albon and Riciardo crashed into the wall and were both responsible. Max his brakes were locking which is something out of his control. Two completely different things
Matt: Ferrari
Tommy: FRANK
Love the shirt.
Well to be Frank with you, *Yawns and woofs*
It's a brilliant t-shirt
I really respect the analysis you guys give, but I think its a bit hard on Sainz, Bottas, Perez, and Ricciardo this time round.
I think the Sainz one is really obvious, he could easily be given a 10 for that drive. I don't think that Ferrari would have achieved better than 3rd unless the RB's had issues.
Perez finishing second to Max is the best he is ever going to do. His race was clean and he did really well in Quali and the FP's. Making a criteria that he must beat Max to get a 10 is insane, that RB is tuned in to Max and Max can drive the wheels off it.
DR might have moved to make space for Stroll and I don't dispute that caused the prang but the FIA Stewards declared it a lap one incident and recorded no penalty. So in my mind lap one incidents shouldn't be penalised in the rankings either. It would have been better to give him and Albon no score and exclude this race for them both.
Bottas is driving that Stake the best anyone could I think and he keeps getting screwed by these pit stops or mechanical issues. The car is clearly horrible and it sort of feels like the ranking punishes the driver for a bad car or a team mistake. There should be a way for a driver in a horrible car to get an 8 or a 9.
Logan had a decent race. And like 6/7 overtakes before the pit stop battle. Yes he spun but he still finished the race. Is he Max, no but I do think he’s shown improvement and should have gotten a higher rating.
wow the standard is low… crashing in practice and ending up in the gravel/finishing last is pretty darn bad
Yes that is true but when you spin it and put it in the gravel out of nowhere with no pressure then that’s just unacceptable. Also crashing out in FP1 can’t be ignored. He also finished dead last. He already gained 3 positions due to retirements and because of that vital mistake he ended up in 17th which was last place. You can’t give a driver more than a 3 for making a huge mistake in both practice and the actual race and finishing last. That’s a 1/10 performance. But. Because the fact he did make some good overtakes and was running well before he spun then I would give him a 2/3.
@@tipiilegends5482 this was only his second race at this circuit. He is still learning every single detail. Plus he's not the only driver to go off at degner. Leclerc, Norris, AND Perez all went off there too.
As for the race up until he went off. He was doing well for the 1 stop but Williams decided not to for some reason.
@@SkiingIsBelieving859I mean even if you disagree with a higher rating I can comfortably say that Logan has atleast shown some improvement in overall pace. This doesn’t mean he doesn’t make rookie mistakes, but he has shown more speed around the track than we usually get.
Daniel causes crash on the third corner Tommy 3 Matt 3, Sargent doesn't have a good race but finished the race Tommy 2 ??? I think if Danny gunned the engine and intentionally run into every car in front of him he'd still get nothing lower than a 3... Can we FINALLY get past the fact that everyone loves Danny and finally grade him on what he does not how much we love him? I like Danny too but he hasn't driven well in three years. Let's be fair not fan-ish
He qualified 11th and missed out on 10th by like 0.055 or something. Did that only having 2 practice sessions, one of those was wet. Now, I have only ever done professional karting in my life but even in those the starts are super hectic with karts weaving all over the track and we don't have rear view mirrors. I can safely say on a left turn with an Aston in my left mirror and the short burst from turn 1 to 2 I can forgive someone for not expecting anyone to try and pull alongside around the outside and giving myself the best chance of a good turn 2 exit. Albon was NEVER going to pull alongside evenly so sitting on the outside with only his front wheels up to less than half way of DR's car was a case of "outside suicide" in this case. There's a reason no-one got a penalty. As clear a case of racing incident as I've seen one. DR should not get points off for that. His qualifying was good and better than I've ever seen Logan produce. And Logan did spin all by himself.
Why is stroll not being graded on a different category?
My boy Lance Slow needs to be racing in a different category 🤣⛳
Nunces deserve a special league.
@Chip_in what? He obviously needed to try ridiculous strategies because they are so slow on the straight and everybody was undercutting like hell. Quali was bad but the racepace was solid
@@ehrlichgesagt863 bulls excrament. Where did Alonso finish?
@@ehrlichgesagt863 - I think they ran a rain setup in the dry because of parc fermé regulations.
I feel like their ratings have been getting more and more inconsistent. Hulk should have gotten better than Mag but giving him a 5 on a one stop and he gained 5 positions in the race come on that's at least a 6 or 7 to anyone who cares about the ratings. Also giving a 3 and 2 to Sargent is ridiculous. He didn't have a complete race by any means but he gained a bunch of positions and lost them in the pit scramble, now he did bin it into Degna 2 but those scores are terrible....especially when giving Ric and Albon the scores they did.
I do normally defend Zhou and try to back the Sauber drivers a bit, but it was just a poor weekend all round this time for Zhou, I agree with 3/10, and 7/10 for Bottas - if he had managed to get past Magnussen in their battle I could argue an 8 (the team and car are awful), but having not done that 7 makes perfect sense!
i can understand that people dont really pay much attention into the backmarker teams like Sauber, but it has been incredibly unlucky for Zhou for the last two races. Front wing disintegrated itself for no reason at Australia, still using the old front wing for Japan due to no backups. Car broke down in FP3 and had to be dismantled, fuel tank leaking, no time nor data for tuning, no sim run for qualy, gearbox issues never solved. Just absolutely stink for Sauber to keep messing up, even in practice session.
@@konlin4525the stars need to align for Zhou next week❤
*THE RICCCCCC* can't finish, and takes out Albon......3
Logan finishes the race 3, 2
🤣🤣
the ric qualified p11 just 0.05s out of q3
@@huh4206qualy doesn’t matter if you take yourself out on the second corner 💀
@TrippaMazing87 doesn't matter for the race, but if you're looking at a drivers development over their quali pace or race pace, this is still very important. so yeah quali does matter
@@huh4206what are you talking about race pace he didn’t race 😂 and every other race he’s miles off it
@@liammylchreest3506 "quali pace OR race pace" can you read ?
I hope you guys know that the stake F1 pitstops aren't slow because of the crew, it is the nut design that causes this delay 😢
I've made the same comment on multiple videos yet the guys seem unaware of it. It's been talked about on other Pods and written about online.
Felt Matt very harsh last week calling them clowns
Last year you posted a video halfway through the season about standings with a different points-system, from first to 15th. I was looking forward to see a follow-up after the season finished, but it never came. Could you make one of those halfway through te season and at the end of it please? Have fun next week with your live-shows! I'd love to come to one of those, but a trip to the UK is a little out of my budget
Red Bull put Gasly, Nick DeVries, Liam, and Riccardo into the Alpha Tauri (RB) with the sole intention of moving up to Red Bull for Chico's seat, yet Yuki has beaten Gasly, DeVries, Liam, and Riccardo (twice), and even with Riccardo disaster in Suzuka, and the season so far, Christian Horner is still high on Riccardo and not so much on Yuki. Horner "Riccardo 7/10, Yuki 5/5".
He didn't beat Liam
Looking at Yuki's fortunate results in Melbourne wasn't due to pace or performance, Yuki struggled in Japan to pass Sargeant and Bottas prior to the second pit stop.
Whilst on paper Tsunoda is having an amazing season, facts are it's nothing special. Eg being celebrated for passing Gasly around the outside, where the truth is Gasly had damage and was slowing. The hype for Yuki is insane.
@@dodgemF1why are your recent comments all about yuki, even in 2023
@@FiveNtwoW Because he/her/that is a die hard DR fan
While I agree with your statement he did not beat Liam.
These ratings feel either super harsh (Logan) or very forgiving
To give Oscar a 7 and Norris an 8 is not fair. It should be a 6 and a 9.
@@54_ocram46I’d say 5 and 8. I did not like piastri race
@@54_ocram466 and 8 seems more fair
@@54_ocram46 I think 7 and 8 works.
Oscar was slower, but he had more on-track battles than Lando, so a rating just under Lando's seems about right.
So people know, as Matt & Tommy never mention it
STAKE have all new pit equipment this season. They have known since race 1 it has a problem
They need time to fix.
They have partly fixed this issue, but not fully
They are slowing down the pit stop on purpose to try avoid the threading nut issue.
Ik logan was bad but giving him the same or worse rating than Ricardo who crashed and dnfed is a lil crazy
Yuki is the max verstappen of formula B
Nick Hulkenburg is the Charles leclerc of formula B as well (absolute qualifying beast)
@@SydTheSquidneyy lance stroll is the Logan Sargent of formula 1
@@LarryFisherman742 100%
What garbage. Keep hyping him up though, will make his failure even more epic.
@@dodgemF1 it aint that serious bruh relax yourself
Honestly I'm a big Yuki fan, but people keep acting like his opening lap didn't happen. Before the restart, he got off to an AWFUL start getting overtaken all the way down to P18 (before the crash). His teammate went wide because Yuki was in his left mirror. The restart saved his race, and that just isn't talked about whatsoever. After the restart, he was great. But not sure why we ignore the opening lap
It's 4 mins in and Matt has already said the word cheffing. Going to become a drinking game soon.
I know, the bit is getting old...
Hamilton had damage on front wing, feels you did not take this into account at all, this is why he offered to swap positions.
He hadn't. The car just understered like mad on the hard tires at high fuel just like Russells car did.
I always think of corn chips when Williams Dorilton is mentioned - Dorilton = Doritos
Another rating and again Matt and Tommy fail to explain why STAKE are having the pit issue.
Guys please give some context !!!!!
I'm glad I am not the only one that has the same feeling as Tommy about the Riccardo/Albon incident. I agree Daniel left him less than no room, but how is Alex going to try and run along side going three wide into turn two. There was absolutely nothing to gain there, and probably could have backed out and overtaken Daniel at some point in the rest of lap 1 as Daniel was struggling for grip.
You guys should calculate the scores from the last 20 races. Most likely, if you give Max 0 from this point onwards, he’ll still be on top for another 10-12 races.
Also Ricciardo & Albon getting higher points than Logan - a hint of some bias maybe?
Tommy and Matt on fire... Great episode...
Conspiracy theory: Stake’s slow pits are a protest against the shady title sponsor
Here we go
I think you should start ranking teams aswell with their team orders,strategies, pit stops ect
Not a very good drive from stroll sure but not quite fair critique. He put on the softs at lap 32 or something and then did 18 laps on them which was longer than a lot of other drivers stints on mediums. He was catching Yuki for the first 15 or something laps and then they dropped off like a cliff the last laps. The call to put softs on was to me a gamble for Aston to somehow get passed tsunonda since they lacked straight line speed due to the setup made. He could easily have stayed on the hards which they put on at the same time as Yuki and secure p11. He was the only driver to do a 3 stopper and was essentially stuck behind yuki for the majority of the race. Had he had clean air or gotten passed yuki through strategy he would most likely gotten p10. To me the most mistakes were made before the race in qualifying and in the setup. For me it's more like a 4 or 5 in rating but not sure if he could have done much more differently on race day.
His race craft was good, it was the pit calls that screwed him up.
As looking at Stake, Haas and other teams progress.. should we also start rating teams as well along with drivers? As this will help
Us decouple team issues like Stake from drivers and that will bring better respect to Drivers and their performance.
2 for Logan? What? He did a good race (not bad quali) with the car which is not 100%. Yes, he did a mistake, but 2 is waay too harsh. The 4 was legit.
I wouldve said a 5 personally, 6 if not for Denger 2. Feels like its just a bit to call Logan bad at this point
Coming dead last behind collision-damaged pink tractors is "good" is it?!
Crashed in practice, went to the gravel in the race, finished last. Not unreasonable.
@soundscape26 he did not finish last and the only reason he finished 17th was because of the bad pitstop. He was actually overtaking cars before that stop.
@@OveranalyzingEverything How come he didn't finish last? Only 17 cars finished the race.
Bottas with an even remotely okay strategy and pitstops is 9th or 10th in that race. It's insane how bad Sauber is at pitstops, just casually lost 2 seconds extra on everyone TWICE and just got stuck on his last stint.
Average ratings after Japan
Average Matt ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 9.33
Charles Leclerc: 8.25
Fernando Alonso: 8
Yuki Tsunoda: 8
Lando Norris: 7.75
Sergio Perez: 7.75
Oscar Piastri: 7.5
Nico Hulkenberg: 7
George Russell: 6.75
Kevin Magnussen: 6.5
Alex Albon: 6
Lewis Hamilton: 5.75
Valtteri Bottas: 5.75
Zhou Guanyu: 5.25
Esteban Ocon: 5.25
Lance Stroll: 4.75
Pierre Gasly: 4.75
Logan Sargeant: 4
Daniel Ricciardo: 3.75
Average Tommy ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 9.33
Charles Leclerc: 8.25
Fernando Alonso: 8
Oscar Piastri: 7.75
Lando Norris: 7.75
Sergio Perez: 7.75
Yuki Tsunoda: 7.5
Nico Hulkenberg: 6.75
Kevin Magnussen: 6.25
George Russell: 6.5
Esteban Ocon: 6
Lewis Hamilton: 5.75
Valtteri Bottas: 5.75
Alex Albon: 5.5
Zhou Guanyu: 5
Pierre Gasly: 4.75
Lance Stroll: 4.25
Logan Sargeant: 3.67
Daniel Ricciardo: 3.5
Average fan ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 9.33
Charles Leclerc: 8
Lando Norris: 7.75
Sergio Perez: 7.75
Oscar Piastri: 7.5
Fernando Alonso: 7.5
Yuki Tsunoda: 7.5
Kevin Magnussen: 7.25
Nico Hulkenberg: 7
George Russell: 6.75
Alex Albon: 6
Lewis Hamilton: 5.5
Zhou Guanyu: 5.25
Lance Stroll: 5
Pierre Gasly: 5
Esteban Ocon: 5
Valtteri Bottas: 5
Logan Sargeant: 4
Daniel Ricciardo: 3.5
I think the albon critique from tommy isn’t fair. That would mean he’s never allowed to overtake or battle, because the other driver can always make insane mistakes like just not looking in the mirror of the side you’re turning
I think the grading for Sargeant is extremely harsh. He was literally with Bottas. He was right there with Bottas as the 5 car pit battle came and he came out behind Bottas. If you mention how much Bottas got screewed over by Kick pitstop, you have to mention how Sargeant got screwed over in exactly the same way. Otherwise you are either biased or ignorant.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has done enough to get a 3rd season, but if you want to pretend to be anything close to journalists, or that your reviews are meant to be taken seriously, you have to apply common sense and put away your bias.
Stroll should get a 10/10 for that drivers radio
Yall did logan dirty
Is there not a sports bar that could host you guys at 3AM as you do you Twitch stream for the late ones?
Im sure there are some larger inner city ones which do this sorta stuff...late license kinda thing.
At least Logan was catching people and dispatching them with authority! Actual Entertainment Value 6 points!
Fernando, Sainz and Yuki best drives I would say
Le meilleur pilotage revient à Leclerc sur cette course désolée
how do you rate Zhou and Logan the same when one of them literly drove off track and the other didnt?
Nice video but 2 things to add:
- Ricciardo wasn‘t alone st fault. Albon was in his blind spot and in the first lap you can‘t manage to Watch after all cars. Albon should have backed up.
- Charles was only 1 tenth behind Carlos in qualifying. And in the racer, he wanted the one stop strategy. Xavi told him to go with the 2 stop because the hards weren’t working on mercedes. Charles insisted and went for it.
So in my opinion Ricciardo gets a 4 and Charles an 8,5 or a 9.
Has anyone calculated the average pit stop time for each team thus far? Would be hilarious to see how out of whack Stake is.
Idk the average, but they have spent more time in pits in the first 3 races than any other team did in total last season.
I love all the Lance shade, well deserved
You should add a team rating too; how did the team do on strategy etc. like so they see this
Yeah that might be hard though to figure out what would br the optimal strategy
Actual F1 experts, Team Principals and the drivers themselves : Wasn't Daniel's fault.
MattP1Tommy : Was Daniel's fault.
Ok then, why have any objectivity, I guess.
At this point i would expect alpine to get damage and go faster
That tyre management during the race was superb. Good job Carlos and Charles! The team did everything they could in Japan, with what they had to work with, so proud of them! 👏 ❤🇮🇹 Forza C² ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤
Would love to see a ranking from worst performing to best (where you have to agree on one list) -- or just arguing over a tier list ranking/order -- maybe done every 3 races or something
An 8 for Norris is so harsh, Massively outperformed in quali and finished where he should in the race, would have been even higher if not for Mclaren strategy.
You joke about Yuki winning Formula B, but were the 5 slower teams racing separately on the same scoring scheme as the whole field, Haas would be now leading the constructors championship ahead of VCARB with a larger margin than Red Bull ahead of Ferrari, and Yuki would still be leading the drivers championship.
I just saw you on Alex’s podcast, that wasn’t a crossover I could have predicted.
You guys should do P1 and Donkey of the day
editor i can see you cut a lot of Tommy in the beginning 🤣
Logan had a good race. Pit stop was terrible at a critical moment, and he had been driving the quickly-repaired chassis from Melbourne. Definitely not a 2 or 3.
Would love to see you guys Interviewing Lance Stroll. Please Interview him @Matt and @tommy
Idk about 2 for logie bear tbh
Matt, thanks for highlighting that Yuki defended against Lance.
And Tommy a _Yuki-hater!!_ 😂😂😂
Can you guys pls have Yuki as your guest some time?
You guys interviewed him in his debut year it’s be cool to see him again.
Where can you do fan vote?
How can you rate Albon with a 5, when he ended his race on lap 1, and on the other hand rate Logan with 2 and 3, when he did a pretty decent race ? TOTALLY unfair.
Guys can you do a table graphic of the points at the end of each video?
I've been saying this since his McLaren days vs Button...Hamilton is a great driver but he's a lot less great in a difficult car. He's not an Alonso type driver who seems to thrive when a car is bad; it brings out a fire in Fernando. With Lewis on the other hand, he tends to let it get in his head and his level drops relative to his teammate. Button was more consistent than him in some tricky McLaren cars and so far George is doing similar things with a god awful Mercedes.
My hack theory is when you come into the sport driving dream machines, as Lewis did, perhaps you don't develop the tools you need to deal with rubbish.
I think your being very harsh. You’re forgetting Hamilton wiped the floor with George last season and nearly beat Perez in that dominant rb.
@@Sub-ko7kp the car was pretty good last year. But when the car was rubbish in '22 and now in '24 George has the edge. It's exactly the same pattern as Ham vs Button at McLaren. I'm not denying Lewis is a world class driver but his level drops further than expected when the car isn't ideal. Schumacher and Vettel were very similar in that regard, so Lewis is in pretty excellent company.
I hope Yuki continues to drive well. His last 10 races show consistency in bringing out the best in a weak car.
The pitstop issues for Kick I thought were well documented????????
It's an issue with the wheel nuts expanding as they heat up. It's a problem with the design, not the pitstop of the crew themselves. There's a flaw in the design of the car and the nuts / heat, so nothing you can just fix instantly. They're getting too much heat.
It is well documented and I've commented similar to you on multiple videos. Matt And Tommy seem unaware. Matt called the pit crew clowns last week.
They need to inform themselves and apologise.
Its a bit early to find out how the season will progress.. But so far Ferrari has made some consistent tactical calls from the team, The fans put this down to the first time use from the team tacticians and analyst software at Marcello of Ai.
At least the use of Ai will do one of two things..make their fractional calls consistently bad or consistently good ?
for information leclerc's strategy comes from leclerc the wall did not agree
Yuki was great 10/10 (I wrote this before you rated him, so glad you gave him a 10 too, Matt! Tommy lost some of my respect ;))
Lewis had slight damage the whole race (he said he got it at the start), that's why he volunteered to let George through.
2024 & Ver: 13:03 13:30 13:59 14:22
2024: 14:58 15:28
DRS: 15:16
Sta (not included): 15:40
Ver: 21:23 21:55
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I’m a Yuki fan as well! 😂 he is such a consistent driver. I wonder what would happen if they put him a faster car. 😮
He put himself into a faster car in Mexico last year when the anger issues got the better of him, how quickly we forget.
@@dodgemF1 oh yeah I forgot about that. I feel like he has calmed down since then. 🤷♂️
@@dodgemF1Are you serious? Last year Alpha Tauri is a fast car? How fast? Dreaming
Am I the only one that finds annoying the part when they mention where they qualified and also where they started? I feel it's unnecessary and it just gets me all confused because I'm expecting race result. I know there could be penalties, but I feel like that's a rare occurance and not that big of a jump if you get promoted that it deserves a mention.
Albon destroys car -5 Logan finishes race-2
It's because Washedcardo completely swiped him out of the race! I agree the grade for Logan is harsh, but it's not Albon's fault that he got crashed out!
@@alvarorey9308he went for the stupidest move ever mate can’t just put all the blame on Riccardo obviously he’s more at fault for it, but why would albon just go on the outside there, he’s either gonna back off loose more positions or crash it was a stupid move that took him out
@@JerryHandelBarThe2nd There was a full car width, shut up.
@@JerryHandelBarThe2ndSargeant also crashed and was straggling at the back
What’s ur point?
@@theracingguy4739 Sargent was in the running for 10th before williams messed up his pitstop. Tell me you didn't watch the race and just blindly hate without telling me.
Why is everyone raving on about Tsunoda? In qualifying he is superb, no doubt there, and he certainly got a great result in Melbourne but the point in Suzuka was thanks to the great work of his pit crew to win back the three positions he lost on track. If you look at fastest race laps, in Bahrain he only beat Bottas and Ocon, In Jeddah, he was basically slowest, Melbourne was pretty good and Suzuka was just ok. Logan Sargeant has actually had a better fastest lap than Yuki in each of the three races they have both started. If you look at qualifying to race result in Bahrain he lost places to Stroll, Zhou and K Mag (I won't count Ricciardo) and only gained over Hulk. In Jeddah he outqualified but finished behind Bearman, Hulk, Albon, K Mag, Ocon and Sargeant. Melbourne he was only overtaken by Stroll in the race but in Suzuka he was only saved from being passed by K Mag, Bottas and Sargeant by the great pit stop. So overall, in three out of four races so far he has actually gone backwards when racing out on track, where it matters most. But even in qualifying, if we accept that the RB is the 6th fastest car he is basically where he is expected to be. He outqualified Hamilton and Alonso in Melbourne but other than that has only beaten Stroll - Bearman doesn't really count in those circumstances. I think this is more a case of Daniel Ricciardo underperforming.
You've nailed it, been saying it's all hype for Yuki and it's unwarranted. I watched him battle Bottas and Sargeant on Sunday and he struggled whilst Bottas was flying. Melbourne result required 4 drivers ahead to either DNF or get a penalty. Similar to 2023. Hardly a result whichTsunoda had any influence.
It's social media and those who comment about F1 are largely kids who use their emotions rather then their brains. Yuki is flavour of the month; last season it was Piastri. Yuki is a solid midfield driver but he's way off the top guys and RedBull think this as well otherwise they would’ve gotten rid of Perez and put him in the number 1 team.
@@JC-lu4se Not just kids unfortunately. Proper media is raving about him too. The only thing they are reporting correctly is that Yuki's performances so far this year are killing any hope Ricciardo might have had to get back in the Red Bull.
@@JMRope Well I think it's fair to say that unless Danny ups his game, there's the strong possibility that Lawson will get the seat. It's going to be interesting to see if Yuki can keep this level for the season. If he's not in a Red Bull or strong team within the next year or so, he's going to be another "born for the midfield" driver which is what I think he is. He only got 3rd in his final F2 season and largely got the seat due to the Honda/Japan conection.
@@JC-lu4se I agree. If Daniel can't pick himself up not only has he lost the chance to go back to Red Bull he will be out of F1 completely. He would have to be a complete disaster (and some would say he is already) to be dropped mid-season though. And yeah Yuki was not super impressive in F2 but to be fair nor was Lawson. He was also third but a very long way off Drugovich where as Yuki was closer to Schumacher. And Lawson didn't win a single feature race in F2, only sprints. That said I still think Lawson would do better in F1.
Ricciardo getting, on average, a better rating than Sargeant is downright laughable. He got outqualified by his teammate yet again, fell from 11th into the clutches of Albon and Stroll off the start, and was so busy looking at the distant Stroll and the next corner that he neglected to think that there could be a WHOLE-ASS CAR next to his other side after he did nothing but hemorrhage position and pace from the start. His negligent driving ended two races after just 2 corners. Hand-wringing about the accident Ricciardo caused by saying that it was just "first lap things" or that it was "risky" for Albon to come alongside there is just pathetic apologism. Sargeant, on the other hand, had a decent race going until his off. He recovered and brought the car home safely. He was never going to challenge for points, and at this point nobody will be surprised if he gets replaced mid-season. If these ratings are based around expected versus actual performance, how does this shake out then? We all know Sargeant is utter crap. He had a decent drive until he did what he normally does. Ricciardo, despite being on the decline, is a seasoned veteran of the sport, a multi-time race winner, a former title contender, and is probably somewhere on the list of potential takers for the 2nd RBR seat. This then is decidedly not the kind of performance he should be having.
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No great surprise it's DR slander, that's the new band wagon to jump on for DTS fans. Understand this, Logan didn't deserve to be driving in F1 this year whatsoever, James Vowles is a very decent person for allowing him to participate at all. I'll agree his Japanese race prior to the crash was decent, but his career is done with F1.
@@dodgemF1 1. I've been watching F1 for about 30 years. 2. It's not slander, if it's accurate. Make no mistake, I enjoy him as a personality and was happy to have him aboard at McLaren for a time, but it's time to give younger drivers a shot. 3. Speaking of, Sargeant was a barely suitable choice for last season, let alone this one. Vowles has been quite kind to stand by him for so long, but at this point it is surely just a facade until he can be prodded out the door. 🏎
@@caseyatwell3896 If you've been watching for 30 years you should be able to understand that Ricciardo qualifying just five hundredths behind Tsunoda, when Ricciardo had no meaningful Friday running, is actually not the disaster you think it is. Likewise, someone who's been watching 30 years should be able to identify that Sargeant actually had a very good race, he had good pace and his tyre management was on point. He was shuffled back down the order because of Williams' poor pitstop and bad strategy. You should also know how many good drivers get caught out at Degner every year, and recognise that Sargeant's gravel trip was not the defining moment of his race.
@@walover165 I never said that it was a disaster. Rather, it's just not great for his side of the garage that he is repeatedly falling short of his teammate, and that in this case when he has near as makes no difference matched Tsunoda in qualifying that he immediately bottles the start and DNFs. Sargeant did have a very inspired and confident race going until it fell apart, and I was happy to see him having positive TV time. As for his incident, the list of people who had minor issues there this weekend was pretty long, as usual. The list of people who actually pissed away the remains of their race there this weekend had one name on it.
I guess I must watch and understand Formula One on a different wavelength than you people? I thought Charles LeClerq executing that strategy was incredibly impressive and the best overall drive of anyone in 2024 so far. I put it right up there with Carlos winning two weeks after having an organ surgically removed! We saw other drivers try the same exact thing and they fell off the wayside and had to call an audible. I dont hold being 0.1 off your teammate in qualifying against him. Missed qualifying this week so i didnt see what happened but you can get a wind gust, traffic, a tiny tiny mistake. I gave him a 10/10. Thought about 9 cause he had that slight off when the tires were on the cords at the end of stint 1, but since it didnt cost him a position I left it a 10. And im not a CL or Ferrari supporter so this is a nuetral unbiased opinion.
I don't really believe in awarding 10/10 unless a performance was truly unbelievable. If they performed better next time, what would you rate it. Yuki did pull off a fantastic drive so I'll give him 9/10. Same as Max, of whom Yuki was my favorite.
Max the only driver to get a 10 even on DNF
Cmon Logan deserves a better grade than that, by the time he spun out it was clear all he had to do was finish the race because the Williams already lost the pit stop battle. Just like bottas he lost 2 spots because slow stop and Lance pulling a fast one.
The fact that he said Lance was one of the most talented drivers with a straight face 😂😂😂
Max is the “One that got Away!”
Kmag was on a one stop and that plays heavily into his race pace, which didn't get mentioned.
Can't help but think he did better than a 5.
Hulkenberg with a 7 though, ehhh nah. I agree with the fan rating of 6.