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The Modern Rogue DON'T RUN YOUR FINGER PARALLEL TO THE BLADE. If you feel the blade perpendicular to the blade you can guage how sharp it is without cutting yourself.
Just a few tips that could make life easier when sharpening like this. 1: Brian’s file technique is pretty good. You want to cut sliding diagonally across to cover the most surface. 2: you’d find it better if you put the tools so they are parallel to the floor. It’s safer and you will be more consistent with the angle. 3: when you sharpen an edge, you create a burr on the opposite side. When you feel the edge you are feeling for the roughness. Sharping the other side you flatten the burr out and make the micro edge straighter. In short don’t count the passes you do, just do both sides until no roughness (burr) is felt on either side. P.s. “I’m a sharpening nerd”
In a similar vein, the biggest rule of sharpening: *sharpen your tool according to the job it's intended to do.* Different grinds on a blade will produce different characteristics; Blades ground at a low angle to a fine edge will cut magnificently, but are also weak, and therefore will chip easier and dull faster. Blades ground at a higher angle with a thicker edge won't cut as well, comparatively, but are also stronger and more resilient to edge wear. The former kinds of blades are good for shaving, filleting meat or surgery, the latter are good for chopping wood or clearing brush. Every application has a corresponding "ideal" edge geometry that make work easier and more efficient, which is why these considerations are important. For example, there are two main types of axes for cutting lumber: Felling axes and splitting axes. Felling axes are used to, well, fell trees, which means that they are used to cut *across* the grain of the wood. Due to the internal structure of its fibres, wood is most resilient to cutting across its grain, therefore a felling axe must have a narrow bit with a low edge angle in order to concentrate the force of the swing more and cleave the wood better. Splitting axes are used to cut lumber *along* the grain of the wood. Wood is very weak against cutting along its grain (to the point where you're not really cutting anything, you're just driving a wedge between loosely adhered wooden fibres), therefore a splitting axe is better off with a high edge angle and a relatively dull bit, mostly to make it more resilient and long-lasting, but also to lessen the chances of the axe becoming stuck in the wood. Neither axe would be useful in a kitchen compared to a chef's knife, as wood has very different material characteristics compared to meat or vegetables, and conversely, the knife wouldn't be useful for cutting down a tree. The best blade isn't always the sharpest, hardest or most polished; it's the one that fits the job.
s i d e w a y s l i f e s t y l e I agree with most of what you said, but I am a Bushcraft instructor and the idea of an axe being dull isn’t good either since it needs the initial sharpness to bite in the first place. Regardless of splitting or felling. There are two schools of thought with splitting axes. Either heavy and wide (splitting mall) or thin to start and wider towards the top (European like Gransfors Bruks) either way the edge remains sharp. Check out Wranglerstar axe reviews to get an idea of what I mean. And yes obviously an axe isn’t designed for the kitchen.
I really thought when the video "glitched" was because they made it all the way through sharpening an axe and a two-sided machete and then Brian cut himself with the paper
Omg I spend all day at court for jury duty, watching about 7hrs of your guys video and now Inget home to a brand new vid! Hell yeah!!! Its the Modern Roooooooogue!!
I love the way he swings the gladius with two hands. Also to prevent rust I recommend putting a light coating of oil on your blades. Great video and entertaining as always!
I wanna just thank you guys for everything you do. Every episode makes me laugh, and you guys are great at “science”. Again, thanks for making everyone happier one video at a time.
Jason: nerd doesn’t do lots of physical stuff but is smart Brian: heh heh Brian me strong do magic and eat fire sharpen blades Both children in well groomed man bodies
james finch ceramic stones don’t need a lubricant, only water stones need to be soaked, and whetstones need to be lubed with either water or oil are all good facts to keep in mind :)
I don't know how long you guys have been around, but I just found this channel and you are most definitely more my kind of people than most others I've come across. Keep it up!
Hell yes, this is what I love, not just Brian and Jason doin' cool stuff but most importantly having fun, the looks on their faces through out this episode are either patient excitement while working on the project or having the time of their lives while testing it out, feels so good seeing them so happy
@@hariodinio Pretty sure he's just clarifying that machetes typically have only one sharpened edge - plus it's primarily a farming tool, like a scythe or sickle, all of which can and have been used as weapons. The weapon in the video is a variant of a gladius by the looks of it.
Hey guys, First of all, I love the channel. Couple notes on the sharpening, though. While a file can work, buying a whetstone as you talked about will give a much better result. Using a little bit of honing oil can really bring out the sharp edge, which ban be bought online, or at a sporting goods store for a couple bucks. Using water will work, but oil not only helps to keep debris out of the stone, but makes sure you get the sharpest possible blade. Not using any kind of liquid can wear away at the stone, and eventually render it useless. Secondly, while that is a badass machete, the fact that the steel chipped and dulled that quickly shows it is a cheap steel, and could possibly become dangerous. Hope this was helpful, and keep up the awesome work.
I was so happy to see yall using a file card. When I sharpen my machetes, starting on left side of the blade, I hold the handle of the machete in my left hand and lay her body across my right knee. I keep the blade offset of my knee a bit, as to not get my pants caught between the blade and the file hahaha. I face the blade pointed away from me, and I pull the file back towards me, while dragging it down the blade a bit at a time as to cover some ground each pass. After I shape the blade down decently, then I flip the machete so the tip goes from my right to my left side, and the handle goes from my left to my right side. I keep the file in my dominant right hand, and hold her spine in my left pinching fingers so she doesnt wonder off on my grinding down. I go down the blade again, pulling the file towards me. I have my index finger on top of the file, sort of pointing towards the tip of the file as to apply generous pressure to the file an also not catch my knuckle in her sharp lip, even though blood down her lips does look good every periodically. After I shape both sides of the blade, I repeat the process but with either a finner file to get finner burrs (sharper blade), or I move to a stone. Oil actually protects metal from rusting from moisture, and also oil comes right off after you chop trees and sharpen wood for a bit, so the people who made a stink about oils "staying on the metal forever" can lick balls. Gosh almighty, buy a knife. The knife usually has a thin layer of oil on it from packaging for the storage, because oil protects. If you use a wet-whet-wette-what-stone with water as the liquid, you can either continually keep adding water to the porous stone because the stone soaks water like a sponge, OR you can let the stone soak in water for maybe an hour or two, as to have it retain water for the majority of the sharpening job. I used to use a stone just dry, and I found that it just made a bit of dust, and wasnt exactly as kind to the conformity of the blade's grinding pattern. I mean, it was a bit more jagged and not as smooth as when I went to sharpening with the stone wetted, but the difference, I found, is negligible. If you want a precision sharpening, you use a diamond pattern sharpener, and you sharpen a tool that isnt a blazern mashette, come on. Also, I'm not fond of that puck and the circular motion against the blade, a tool gets the sharpness from the burrs, and you want to give the burrs a direction- like a V, were the file is pulling from the bottom tip of the V, up to the top sides. Making a circular motion seems like it would drag the burrs down and over the edge of the blade, where the mettal should be being pulled apart to make that fine, razer edge that she is always looking through the house at night for.
For the glasses-- Brian: Oakley Airdrop Jason: Ottoto Paolo I don't think I need to say this, because, well, I'm here watching. But this is my favorite channel to watch. Hopefully, I'll do something awesome enough to one day be on the show.
I own two of them and they aren't like that one, The base of the blade is different and the the pommel is rounded at the bottom not flattened like the one shown in the video. It definitely isn't cold steel brand.
@@keepermovin5906 The Cold Steel one which isn't the one in this video runs around $40, sometimes a bit cheaper? Full tang and 1055 carbon. I've used mine for years and they have held up beautifully.
First of all I have to say I was very impressed with the fact that you guys made it through this episode without the injury counter rolling back to zero. Especially both of your performances in the testing portion at the end. I mean this in the best way possible. Next the glasses I liked the best. This is of course personal opinion based on a video not real life. So yeah, not the best source of input but here goes. Brian: "Yes, Cool Chef!" with the Oakley Airdrops. Jason: "Members Only" with the Calvin Klein CK5417.
i love sharpening my knives with whetstones. its so calming. Also, im not a professional, but i strive for almost a mirror like polished look on my blades. I have the Shapton Japanese Whetstones (I believe i have 2000, 5000, and 8000 grit). I soak my stones in water about 10-15 mins before use.
My dudes...I am seriously impressed with the hand-eye coordination from both of you during the slice test. I'm even more impressed at the lack of an injury counter reset during this episode. Well done, rogues! < >
Before watching: Based on the subject of this episode, I'm anticipating the injury counter being reset multiple times. Let's see whether my prediction is correct. After watching: Oh my gosh! They didn't hurt themselves. I'm so proud.
I just watched the improvised arrows episode. Certainly elevate the wound above the heart. Yes, I also watched the bleed control episode; elevating above the heart doesn't really work with arterial, but it can with venous bleeding. On a related note; I had a similar instance where I knicked my right thumb while cutting a zip tie with a dagger (it was the only knife I had on hand). The closest place I could go to was a thrift store for something to help slow the bleeding, staff were ill prepared for it but I just sat down and instructed as to what I needed, visited the ER with 3 or 4 stitches and now have a neat scar. Don't use a dagger to cut zip ties kids!
Good advice for anyone starting, my 2 sence on the machete sharpening would be get a full size whetstone and USE oil or water as itll help remove all the debris from the stone, if you're having a hard time finding the right angle then mark it with a sharpie, keeping a consistent pressure. I personally work going away from the edge to help build up the burr and then swap sides to refine the other side
I was kind of hoping to see the axe test. On a related topic, I once went hiking/camping with some friends and we had brought a little collapsible saw for cutting down trees (firewood). However, it was pretty much junk. Thankfully, I had brought along a hunting knife (it was a cheap thing that was made in Taiwan). I was able to hack through young trees (like maybe 5 or more inches in diameter) with ease (a few minutes), and they weren't diseased or dead either. That thing was awesome! We had plenty of firewood and even restocked the community stockpile. It was a case of using the tool you have rather than the tool you need, but thankfully the tool we had was still really good.
Prepare yourself to read ravenously through all three books currently out followed immediately by a deep, bitter regret as you wait with the rest of us for the eventual release of book four. (hopefully sometime this Fall!)
As soon as Brian started swing the sharpened blade my pucker factor went through the roof. It might be a while until I find my underwear. But ultimately no resetting of the days without injury counter! Good job!
Dry, wet, or oil depends on the stone itself, and usually its packaging will say which you need to do, or what difference it makes to use different ones if it can do multiple.
For knife sharpening I've always pulled the stone/file/sanding-belt toward the sharp edge. I've also never used a file to sharpen an axe. I have a kukri machete which was like $15 over 20 years ago. I used a file on that to fix up a nick or two but ran it on the belt sander for like 10 seconds per side. I did the same general idea with my camp axe and it's not gonna pass a paper test but it's an axe and I don't want to have to hone after every cut. So I just left it at wood chopping sharp-enough.
if its a waterstone yes. not all sharpening stones are supposed to be wet and is actually bad to use while wet. when using anything, know what it actually is and how to use it properly.
FYI, the stone you're using looks like the lansky Puck, I have one myself. The instructions recommend using honing oil with it. Much like the file card for your files, the oil keeps the stone from getting full of the metal it grinds off. It's hard to sharpen with something when you've filled the abrasive surface with metal.
From my experience with sharpening knives (take it with a grain of salt, because I personally have never sharpened an axe or machete, but only knives of various sizes), a lubricant on your whetstone does help with getting a sharper edge faster. It also just feels better for the blade, and when I was taught how to sharpen a knife, I was told to always use a lubricant (although you definitely can sharpen without one), and if you use water, let it soak for a little bit so that the pores of the stone absorb more water. The benefit of using oil is that you don’t have to let it soak to get the same result, but the problem is that if you use oil, it’s much harder to clean it out for use with water because the two don’t mix. So once you start using oil on a whetstone, it becomes an oil one. I would assume that you could have it soak in an alcohol solution in order to clean it because that’s how polar/non-polar solvents work. This may be slightly different on larger blades, so I don’t entirely know.
I don't know much about sharpening axes, but in sharpening a chisel, I use stones lubricated with honing oil and always pull the chisel towards me, so it maintains the burr throughout the sharpening.
"Don't cut toward yourself" is a dummy rule, protects idiots and/or amateurs until they're skilled enough to progress. Sadly most don't progress so dummy rules get spread as gospel.
Alright. I may not be a pro at sharpening blades but I can add some pointers. 1. I always put my blades parallel to the ground as they are much less awkward to sharpen than a perpendicular oriented blade. 2. I usually take the file and file away from the blade as I file the bevel. This allows me to handle the file with two hands. One on the handle the other on the end. Makes keeping the file angle consistent easier. 3. Stones. The reason for oil or water is for particle accumulation. I personally use only water with any blade I plan on eating with or preparing food with. I only use oil (motor oil cuz I'm cheap) on blades not used to cook or eat with. Like axes and machetes. Helps keep the rust off. I also oil up a rag and wipe down the blade after sharpening it as to have a rust proof layer. DO NOT use carcinogenic oils on food grade blades. 4. Sharpening a blade is like making love. If you do it quick, the results will suck. If you take your time and pay close attention, the results will be amazing. Even beyond what you experienced at the end of this video. Hope that helps.
Exactly, to check the sharpness of a blade you run your finger perpendicular to the blade! That's like the first thing you learn about knifes in Cub Scouts.
Gunnar Young According to knife makers and blacksmiths that doesn’t actually tell you anything. They don’t recommend that you run your finger along the edge either but I’ve seen some do it cautiously as if you know what to look for it tells you more. Better tests are the paper one obviously, does it catch on your fingernail, does it shave hair etc.
@@paws27 I actually did cut myself running my finger along the edge of a new knife while testing it. The pinch method seems safer to me (but the paper test is obviously safest, followed by pinch, and then the shave test), since the edge of the blade is less likely to cut into any individual finger, but I do *NOT* recommend the perpendicular method.
1) I will always prefer a single sided machete. The weight distribution in the blade creates a "sweet spot" about 1/4 to 1/3 down from the tip that increases the impact when cutting with it.. 2) The two sides of a "double-bit" axe are normally ground at different angles. The courser angle is for normal chopping, and the finer angle side is for "limbing" a tree after it has been felled.
*The actual advice is after the first paragraph For the love of god, don't run your fingers up and down an edge; not like you did in the beginning, that's not so bad to effectively run them down the bevel (so long as the edge isn't coming towards your fingers or running parallel but instead your fingers are rolling off of it ever so slightly, if that makes sense), but at around 10:30 it looks like you're doing the stupid version; may just be the angle though. It's the easiest way to cut yourself and any sharp edge will cut you that way. Test sharpness by running a finger perpendicular to the edge, either down across the bevel and off the edge or across it perpendicularly in a similar way, lightly, not up and down its length. Even the safer methods will cut you with something that's truly razor sharp, so careful. Let's see; try not to roll the file up and over the bevel towards the end of a stroke like you were doing with the axe; you can, if you don't want a crisp looking bevel and want it rounded, just preference. You may, in order to keep the angle more consistent; use both hands; one holding the front of the file, to steady it. Also, with bigger nicks and worse cared for tools, you may have to file more than you did here, including just actually filing the edge and not the bevel if it is chipped or dinged deeply enough to actually damage the tool. After you remove nicks and dings with the file by using it traditionally, you have the option of going further and cleaning up the bevels by draw filing; taking the file and holding both ends, running it down the length of the bevel while it's still perpendicular. This can be used to actually get a decent edge, if all you have is a file (ideally mill/ single cut not double cut, and something finer, but you can make do), as well. You'll still want the teeth to be cutting towards the edge, still only cutting in one direction (towards you, ideally, hence _draw_ filing), and yes you'll have to be careful not to cut yourself. Reposition your work as needed, keep the nice handle which keeps the edge away from your fingers, on the edge side while holding onto the tip of the file with your hand behind the edge. Matching the bevel angle is really the important part with all these things, assuming you're not trying to change it. You can use water with many commercial stones that aren't wetstones (not all, if can damage some; there's stones that you apply a light amount of water to the surface, and then there's stones _designed_ for soaking completely in water), it helps the filings not clog up the pores of the stone and instead float away. It (or oil) can lead to a finer finish but really isn't necessary on the quality level of tool you're sharpening (they're hardware/ big box store store level items) and the quality of sharpening you're doing, no offense. Just using the stone at all is fine here, if it gets clogged up because you're using it dry then rub it on a flat piece of relatively smooth cement or ceramic, ideally with some water, to remove the layer of gunk. Just use the stone like it's made to be used, whichever one you get, or you'll wreck the stone. Unfortunately, I'm not sure you're sharpening the edges persay here; they seem to have (and this is not uncommon especially on cheaper tools) edge bevels, those little tiny bevels at the very edge, rather than being a zero/ scandinavian grind where the bevels go all the way to the edge. One isn't necessarily better than the other for everything. And keeping the bevel clean is important and part of the sharpening process, it will assist in ease of cutting through things, but not actually working the edge itself. Just do the same thing (light draw filing if necessary, then the stone) on the edge bevel itself. It's especially good to do on cheaper tools like these even before you use them because they often come with really, really poorly done bevels. Test the quality of the _edges_ themselves with a paper cut or stationary slicing test; a dull blade that's otherwise fine can cut through many things when swung. If you can look along the edge, holding it up at a low angle to a point source of light (a lightbulb) and see a shine on the edge, it's dull. May be sharp enough for some gardening tasks, but it's a dull edge. As for "can we do this on a machete" yeah, they're garden tools. Just don't use a file on a good knife or sword or nicer tool when it can be avoided; most of them come in a state where they won't need filing and should be better taken care of than that, and don't often develop such big dings or chips (and are usually better fixed with abrasives when they do). If you're making it yourself or fixing up some cheaper implement, go nuts. If you want something cheap that you can sharpen in this way, something without an edge bevel/ with a scandinavian grind, go get a mora knife, one of the ones with a moulded plastic handle. They're super cheap and as good a quality as you can get for anywhere near the price, good bushcraft/ survival items to throw in your toolbox/ survival kit, easy to sharpen. You'll find them useful I'm sure.
I have never had a problem with sharpening knifes and axes in the same way. also I wouldn't use a sharpening puc for knifes as it is too coarse. I have found a wet stone works great. Great video BTW keep it up...
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The Modern Rogue DON'T RUN YOUR FINGER PARALLEL TO THE BLADE. If you feel the blade perpendicular to the blade you can guage how sharp it is without cutting yourself.
If you put a blade on your nail and you try to move the blade if it doesn’t move on your finger nail then that tells you how sharp it is
Also could you add me as a friend on Snapchat possibly it’s Sscodymorris
I miss the title of the video being read aloud...
Andy_12 _ thank you that got to me too
"Sharp thing scientist's" are responsible for some of the most innovative cutting-edge research.
Ba-dum tssh
God damm it
Goddammit take your thumbs up.
you're actually a terrible person and you should feel terrible
Really though, they're probably the sharpest people in the science field.
Just a few tips that could make life easier when sharpening like this.
1: Brian’s file technique is pretty good. You want to cut sliding diagonally across to cover the most surface.
2: you’d find it better if you put the tools so they are parallel to the floor. It’s safer and you will be more consistent with the angle.
3: when you sharpen an edge, you create a burr on the opposite side. When you feel the edge you are feeling for the roughness. Sharping the other side you flatten the burr out and make the micro edge straighter. In short don’t count the passes you do, just do both sides until no roughness (burr) is felt on either side. P.s. “I’m a sharpening nerd”
In a similar vein, the biggest rule of sharpening: *sharpen your tool according to the job it's intended to do.*
Different grinds on a blade will produce different characteristics; Blades ground at a low angle to a fine edge will cut magnificently, but are also weak, and therefore will chip easier and dull faster. Blades ground at a higher angle with a thicker edge won't cut as well, comparatively, but are also stronger and more resilient to edge wear. The former kinds of blades are good for shaving, filleting meat or surgery, the latter are good for chopping wood or clearing brush.
Every application has a corresponding "ideal" edge geometry that make work easier and more efficient, which is why these considerations are important.
For example, there are two main types of axes for cutting lumber: Felling axes and splitting axes.
Felling axes are used to, well, fell trees, which means that they are used to cut *across* the grain of the wood. Due to the internal structure of its fibres, wood is most resilient to cutting across its grain, therefore a felling axe must have a narrow bit with a low edge angle in order to concentrate the force of the swing more and cleave the wood better.
Splitting axes are used to cut lumber *along* the grain of the wood. Wood is very weak against cutting along its grain (to the point where you're not really cutting anything, you're just driving a wedge between loosely adhered wooden fibres), therefore a splitting axe is better off with a high edge angle and a relatively dull bit, mostly to make it more resilient and long-lasting, but also to lessen the chances of the axe becoming stuck in the wood.
Neither axe would be useful in a kitchen compared to a chef's knife, as wood has very different material characteristics compared to meat or vegetables, and conversely, the knife wouldn't be useful for cutting down a tree.
The best blade isn't always the sharpest, hardest or most polished; it's the one that fits the job.
So they should sharpen towards the blade? Seems like a recipe for cutting yourself
@@armorhide406 No you shouldn"t.
@@armorhide406 No you shouldn't.
s i d e w a y s l i f e s t y l e I agree with most of what you said, but I am a Bushcraft instructor and the idea of an axe being dull isn’t good either since it needs the initial sharpness to bite in the first place. Regardless of splitting or felling. There are two schools of thought with splitting axes. Either heavy and wide (splitting mall) or thin to start and wider towards the top (European like Gransfors Bruks) either way the edge remains sharp. Check out Wranglerstar axe reviews to get an idea of what I mean. And yes obviously an axe isn’t designed for the kitchen.
“I have this double sided machete here”
Pulls out a gladius
Finally somebody said it! 😂
some places swords are not allowed.. but machetes are...
I got this long double-sided kitchen knife with a fancy handle
In all fairness it could be a gladius machete lol
@@LaLloronaVT That is exactly what it is, that's the point.
I just love how we are all learning this together.
And the ones who already have that knowledge, they refine the information that's presented.
man, look at that legitimate doctor doing legitimate doctor things.
Not legitimate, didn't see any beady little eyes
Looked similar to the doctor behind trump
Do y’all have any “science adjacent” t-shirts yet? If not, why not? They’d be awesome.
Evan F
Science and jason with evan and katylen yeeeeah!
*See’s blade* Immediately looks for the injury counter.
That machete actually comes stock with a tag that warns you it's sharp and pointy. Really?! 🤔
I deadass thought the watermelon was gonna hit him
@@bentramer682 a watermelon would KILL YOU if it had the chance Billy.
Daniel Schmidtke it’s not just the watermelons you have to worry about son. Everything is out to get ya.
The entire sharpening process had me on edge, because I kept thinking one or both of them would reset the counter.
"You know which part to sharpen, right?"
[Silence]
Jason,right?
Oh,sorry.Wrong 'sharp'
*proceeds to aggressively file on the handle*
"oil is forever you don't want that on your blade"
Yeah I only use oil on my axes I don't want to rust
"Oil is forever," I have tools that say otherwise, sigh. Time to bust out the fine steel wool.
Kevin Monzel wd-40
Oil is forever, but the grinding sure isn’t, go ahead
@@maxlowenberg5618 WD-40 is just kerosene, it doesn't actually oil or lubricate properly. It can actually accelerate rust
Wd 40 isn't a lubricant.
I really thought when the video "glitched" was because they made it all the way through sharpening an axe and a two-sided machete and then Brian cut himself with the paper
the paper is a lot sharper than these blades to be fair
I feared the worst. Had he tripped, and gashed something serious? No, thankfully we segue into a bit. Whew!
Colonel, I'm trying to sneak around.. but the clank of my meticulously sharpened blade keeps alerting the Gourds!
You slay me good sir
I’m impressed
You won the internet for today. Congrats.
Omg I spend all day at court for jury duty, watching about 7hrs of your guys video and now Inget home to a brand new vid! Hell yeah!!! Its the Modern Roooooooogue!!
I've got a stomach full of Taco Bell and 550ml of imported hard cider in my belly........... Let's do this...
How did you know what they said before filming?!
I just ate taco bell too😂😂
Legendary
Did you get that taco bell cheaper through the app, like they showed?
Future doctor's will appreciate your patronage
I love the way he swings the gladius with two hands. Also to prevent rust I recommend putting a light coating of oil on your blades. Great video and entertaining as always!
I wanna just thank you guys for everything you do. Every episode makes me laugh, and you guys are great at “science”. Again, thanks for making everyone happier one video at a time.
Jason: nerd doesn’t do lots of physical stuff but is smart
Brian: heh heh Brian me strong do magic and eat fire sharpen blades
Both children in well groomed man bodies
Thought this was just Trevor’s revenge where he beheads them.
I thought it was fruit ninja, then i saw the fruit
That's what ends up happening in the original timeline
Not gonna lie, on the glasses showcase I expected to see "Legitimate Bartender" but I guess I'm gling to have to make do with "legitimate Doctor".
Now is when we say different kinds of stones need different kinds of lube and soaking stones are a thing and sharpen small knives really sharp
james finch ceramic stones don’t need a lubricant, only water stones need to be soaked, and whetstones need to be lubed with either water or oil are all good facts to keep in mind :)
I don't know how long you guys have been around, but I just found this channel and you are most definitely more my kind of people than most others I've come across. Keep it up!
This man actually looks like Mr. Robot, how have I never seen this before...
It ... can never be unseen.
I was impressed how I have never seen someone mention this before. I noticed since the first episode of mr robot came out.
Dude, yeah. So much.
Wait, who looks like Mr Robot?
@@thespankmyfrank Brian
Hell yes, this is what I love, not just Brian and Jason doin' cool stuff but most importantly having fun, the looks on their faces through out this episode are either patient excitement while working on the project or having the time of their lives while testing it out, feels so good seeing them so happy
Everytime they use anything sharp my whole body clenches!
I loved the reference to The Gentleman Bastard Sequence! Great books, and I would expect nothing less from Modern Rogues such as yourselves!
Let's be clear: that ain't no machete, that's a sword.
I mean.. a machete is a sword if used as a weapon
Hario Dinio true
@@hariodinio Nah, machetes almost universally have a single edge rather than being both sides and pointed like that.
@@Zelmel if you are saying that two edges make it a sword, what about single edge swords like a scimitar or a katana? Are they now machetes?
@@hariodinio Pretty sure he's just clarifying that machetes typically have only one sharpened edge - plus it's primarily a farming tool, like a scythe or sickle, all of which can and have been used as weapons. The weapon in the video is a variant of a gladius by the looks of it.
Disappointed they didn’t name the “bastard file”
Usually when I cut myself is only when I yell the file’s name in vain hahah
Last time I was this early, Brian still looked like a cenobite
Somebody call an ambulance
DAMNN
BRUH lmao
Real talk that beginning Axe shot was awesome, great cinematography.
Thank you!
"It's a trick. Get an axe" Haha, that quote on the chalkboard is from my favorite movie ever! I love these guys.
Hey guys,
First of all, I love the channel. Couple notes on the sharpening, though. While a file can work, buying a whetstone as you talked about will give a much better result. Using a little bit of honing oil can really bring out the sharp edge, which ban be bought online, or at a sporting goods store for a couple bucks.
Using water will work, but oil not only helps to keep debris out of the stone, but makes sure you get the sharpest possible blade. Not using any kind of liquid can wear away at the stone, and eventually render it useless. Secondly, while that is a badass machete, the fact that the steel chipped and dulled that quickly shows it is a cheap steel, and could possibly become dangerous.
Hope this was helpful, and keep up the awesome work.
Brian: "Just, just run your finger down right that side,"
Me: *hurried up to get my hands on the big red glowing injury counter button*
@7:23 *heavy breathing noises*
That opening shot was really cool. Watched it a few times.
Never thought an eyewear showcase could be so GOOD!😂
Thanks!!
Who is the guy that was cut into that?
Edit: ...
Apparently I can't spell "that".
@@ModernRogue what was the music you used for your, "fashion show" ',:)
@@antiisocial that was me (the editor). We gotta use whatever resources are available
@@kingofnorc5430 Anthony Shea did that music
Hey Bryce thank you for filming the videos, I appreciate a man behind the camera
Sees Wuuthrad:
Me : ah, a man of culture I see
Honor is in our blood, death in our hearts
Then sees gorechild and remembers to collect skulls for the skull throne
I love the idea of this episode. However I know alot about sharpening but I still hope i learn something new from the duo like I always do!
Modern rogue: does a video with weapons.
Injury counter: yall hear sum?
I was so happy to see yall using a file card. When I sharpen my machetes, starting on left side of the blade, I hold the handle of the machete in my left hand and lay her body across my right knee. I keep the blade offset of my knee a bit, as to not get my pants caught between the blade and the file hahaha. I face the blade pointed away from me, and I pull the file back towards me, while dragging it down the blade a bit at a time as to cover some ground each pass. After I shape the blade down decently, then I flip the machete so the tip goes from my right to my left side, and the handle goes from my left to my right side. I keep the file in my dominant right hand, and hold her spine in my left pinching fingers so she doesnt wonder off on my grinding down. I go down the blade again, pulling the file towards me. I have my index finger on top of the file, sort of pointing towards the tip of the file as to apply generous pressure to the file an also not catch my knuckle in her sharp lip, even though blood down her lips does look good every periodically. After I shape both sides of the blade, I repeat the process but with either a finner file to get finner burrs (sharper blade), or I move to a stone. Oil actually protects metal from rusting from moisture, and also oil comes right off after you chop trees and sharpen wood for a bit, so the people who made a stink about oils "staying on the metal forever" can lick balls. Gosh almighty, buy a knife. The knife usually has a thin layer of oil on it from packaging for the storage, because oil protects. If you use a wet-whet-wette-what-stone with water as the liquid, you can either continually keep adding water to the porous stone because the stone soaks water like a sponge, OR you can let the stone soak in water for maybe an hour or two, as to have it retain water for the majority of the sharpening job. I used to use a stone just dry, and I found that it just made a bit of dust, and wasnt exactly as kind to the conformity of the blade's grinding pattern. I mean, it was a bit more jagged and not as smooth as when I went to sharpening with the stone wetted, but the difference, I found, is negligible. If you want a precision sharpening, you use a diamond pattern sharpener, and you sharpen a tool that isnt a blazern mashette, come on. Also, I'm not fond of that puck and the circular motion against the blade, a tool gets the sharpness from the burrs, and you want to give the burrs a direction- like a V, were the file is pulling from the bottom tip of the V, up to the top sides. Making a circular motion seems like it would drag the burrs down and over the edge of the blade, where the mettal should be being pulled apart to make that fine, razer edge that she is always looking through the house at night for.
Gorechild, huh? Someone has been eating their Khorneflakes.
Nothing like some blood to go along with your daily bowl of khorneflakes
Khorneflakes now with delicious skullmellows for the cereal throne!
Richard Marano gorehowl
For the glasses--
Brian: Oakley Airdrop
Jason: Ottoto Paolo
I don't think I need to say this, because, well, I'm here watching. But this is my favorite channel to watch. Hopefully, I'll do something awesome enough to one day be on the show.
For someone who sharpens tools often I wanted to give them some tips to really help them out
It was like watching virgins fornicating. And they overly complicated the process.
Seriously. I have gotten an axe literally razor sharp (How did I test? I shaved.) with just a pebble I picked up.
Do it!
They read the comments and I'm sure they would appreciate it.
@@nope8535 Don't discriminate against virgins, it's not like people told me that the penis was not meant to insert directly into the eyeball.
@@arcadian3090 did you at least pay for the glass eye?
lol that Mr Robot reference in the sponsor bit. i knew you guys were men of culture. this is why i love you guys.
was anyone else worried at the end when they were testing it that brian would let go of the machette
That's the reason I refused to test with the ax!
@@ModernRogue i must say it would have proved hilarious if the axe had flown and been dodged, but the risk of exactly that happening is a bit much
Yup, came here for this comment
Jason is about to to take that first swing and I'm super excited for this video!!! Sharp stuff = gooooood. Thanks guys
Jason is Hisenberg 😂 he should definitely go for the “Brutus”
I love the long videos but the short ones are the ones making RUclips recommend them to people
Cold steel gladius machete, I love the one I have
I own two of them and they aren't like that one, The base of the blade is different and the the pommel is rounded at the bottom not flattened like the one shown in the video. It definitely isn't cold steel brand.
Gielles Fairon how much will one of those run you
@@keepermovin5906 IIRC you can check out the site Kult of Athena for buying swords
@@keepermovin5906 The Cold Steel one which isn't the one in this video runs around $40, sometimes a bit cheaper? Full tang and 1055 carbon. I've used mine for years and they have held up beautifully.
Gielles Fairon damn carbon steel that’s some good stuff, well worth the price tag I’d wager. would certainly beat the old harbor freight machete!
Oh boy another Modern Rouge episode!
Finally Fruit Ninja,
Oh wait
Jack Fruit Viking
17:30
*sudden flashbacks to nigahiga*
Gourd Rogue
Technically a gourd is a fruit
First of all I have to say I was very impressed with the fact that you guys made it through this episode without the injury counter rolling back to zero. Especially both of your performances in the testing portion at the end. I mean this in the best way possible.
Next the glasses I liked the best. This is of course personal opinion based on a video not real life. So yeah, not the best source of input but here goes.
Brian: "Yes, Cool Chef!" with the Oakley Airdrops.
Jason: "Members Only" with the Calvin Klein CK5417.
:-O Did I just hear Jason drop a Scott Lynch reference?!!?
I’d really love to teach and show these guys how to sharpen and re-profile a blade because it’s a skill everyone needs
I'd love to see a video about tobacco pipes. It's very roguish.
it's happening!
@@ModernRogue Nice.
@Corey Oh, you kids!!
i love sharpening my knives with whetstones. its so calming.
Also, im not a professional, but i strive for almost a mirror like polished look on my blades.
I have the Shapton Japanese Whetstones (I believe i have 2000, 5000, and 8000 grit). I soak my stones in water about 10-15 mins before use.
Jason "I look like a nerd"
I hate to break it to you but you co-host one of the most nerdy shows on youtube. It is already to late.
nerdy and bad ass
Love the new channel badge guys! It's so roguish!
The mr Robot one is just to accurate! That was the first thing I thought about when discovering this channel
Whens the pool cue fight gonna happen. get the mead and medieval fighting guys to show you that.
Technically they did if you use the pole fighting video.
Wolf's Den nope not unless one of them throws an 8 ball at the other setting back the injury counter
@@brookspact6069 lmfao
I love how they have a new favourite every episode....🌬🚩
Lol, I was legit just wondering when a vid would get posted.
My dudes...I am seriously impressed with the hand-eye coordination from both of you during the slice test. I'm even more impressed at the lack of an injury counter reset during this episode. Well done, rogues! < >
Before watching: Based on the subject of this episode, I'm anticipating the injury counter being reset multiple times. Let's see whether my prediction is correct.
After watching: Oh my gosh! They didn't hurt themselves. I'm so proud.
I just watched the improvised arrows episode. Certainly elevate the wound above the heart. Yes, I also watched the bleed control episode; elevating above the heart doesn't really work with arterial, but it can with venous bleeding.
On a related note; I had a similar instance where I knicked my right thumb while cutting a zip tie with a dagger (it was the only knife I had on hand). The closest place I could go to was a thrift store for something to help slow the bleeding, staff were ill prepared for it but I just sat down and instructed as to what I needed, visited the ER with 3 or 4 stitches and now have a neat scar. Don't use a dagger to cut zip ties kids!
2:00 Grunkle stan voice: Welcome to the mystery shack
Thank you for the hypothesis note when you guys said theory.
The fact Gorechild is on the chalkboard back there makes me DEEPLY worried you guys somehow rogued your way to a chainaxe
Dinoduelist 221 gorehowl
Man at Arms made a 'chainsword' out of a heavily modified saw... cool, pretty, and useless. Perfect.
Good advice for anyone starting, my 2 sence on the machete sharpening would be get a full size whetstone and USE oil or water as itll help remove all the debris from the stone, if you're having a hard time finding the right angle then mark it with a sharpie, keeping a consistent pressure. I personally work going away from the edge to help build up the burr and then swap sides to refine the other side
Fellow sufferers waiting for the next Locke Lamora book! Join me!
Was wondering if there was anyone else that caught that reference!
I caught the one last episode, but I haven't spotted this one yet.
I have heard the 4th book is done, and it should be released late summer or fall. /they are also re-releasing the audiobooks currently.
@@LidellFrasier now I have to go rewatch the last one to find it! Lol
@@androlgenhald476 It's on the blackboard in o e of the recent ones. "The rich remember."
I was kind of hoping to see the axe test. On a related topic, I once went hiking/camping with some friends and we had brought a little collapsible saw for cutting down trees (firewood). However, it was pretty much junk. Thankfully, I had brought along a hunting knife (it was a cheap thing that was made in Taiwan). I was able to hack through young trees (like maybe 5 or more inches in diameter) with ease (a few minutes), and they weren't diseased or dead either. That thing was awesome! We had plenty of firewood and even restocked the community stockpile.
It was a case of using the tool you have rather than the tool you need, but thankfully the tool we had was still really good.
LOL, I just started 'Locke Lamora'.
Prepare yourself to read ravenously through all three books currently out followed immediately by a deep, bitter regret as you wait with the rest of us for the eventual release of book four. (hopefully sometime this Fall!)
As soon as Brian started swing the sharpened blade my pucker factor went through the roof. It might be a while until I find my underwear. But ultimately no resetting of the days without injury counter! Good job!
This makes me think you should do more self care too.
Whats the modern rouges workout? diet? Nail/skincare?
Dry, wet, or oil depends on the stone itself, and usually its packaging will say which you need to do, or what difference it makes to use different ones if it can do multiple.
Each time the blade was touched, had a mini heart attack and braced to hear the all too familiar phrase.
Members Only is the style that works best for me of those, followed closely by Breaking Rogue.
This whole time travel thing just adds a whole new level of confusion to the already confusion modern rouge universe
The lies of Locke lamora is one of my favorite book series and you decided to make a reference beautiful people you
That machete, or at least a very similar one, costs $35 on Amazon.
I love the Locke Lamora reference such a awesome book series!!
Nice now you can be a legitimate beady eyed doctor.
I am loving the new channel picture. Excellent choice Brushwood.
sharpening an axe: Shia Labeouf
For knife sharpening I've always pulled the stone/file/sanding-belt toward the sharp edge. I've also never used a file to sharpen an axe. I have a kukri machete which was like $15 over 20 years ago. I used a file on that to fix up a nick or two but ran it on the belt sander for like 10 seconds per side.
I did the same general idea with my camp axe and it's not gonna pass a paper test but it's an axe and I don't want to have to hone after every cut. So I just left it at wood chopping sharp-enough.
When your using a sharpening stone, you should put oil or water on it. In my experience, It does help
Watch the rest
if its a waterstone yes. not all sharpening stones are supposed to be wet and is actually bad to use while wet. when using anything, know what it actually is and how to use it properly.
FYI, the stone you're using looks like the lansky Puck, I have one myself. The instructions recommend using honing oil with it.
Much like the file card for your files, the oil keeps the stone from getting full of the metal it grinds off. It's hard to sharpen with something when you've filled the abrasive surface with metal.
Science suggests that:
“ if you sharpen a blade to a small enough point, it will kill”
From my experience with sharpening knives (take it with a grain of salt, because I personally have never sharpened an axe or machete, but only knives of various sizes), a lubricant on your whetstone does help with getting a sharper edge faster. It also just feels better for the blade, and when I was taught how to sharpen a knife, I was told to always use a lubricant (although you definitely can sharpen without one), and if you use water, let it soak for a little bit so that the pores of the stone absorb more water. The benefit of using oil is that you don’t have to let it soak to get the same result, but the problem is that if you use oil, it’s much harder to clean it out for use with water because the two don’t mix. So once you start using oil on a whetstone, it becomes an oil one. I would assume that you could have it soak in an alcohol solution in order to clean it because that’s how polar/non-polar solvents work. This may be slightly different on larger blades, so I don’t entirely know.
you create a burr on the axe blade filing TOWARDS the edge, then file the burr off from the other side
Was not expecting Gentleman Bastards references, but absolutely delighted. And, it does seem a bit obvious in hindsight that you'd be fans.
i got flashbacks to lance210. oh god.
I don't know much about sharpening axes, but in sharpening a chisel, I use stones lubricated with honing oil and always pull the chisel towards me, so it maintains the burr throughout the sharpening.
"Dont cut toward yourself"
Proceeds to file an axe and machete towards the blade..
Research..research..research..
My immediate thought as well
Honestly, if you're sharpening with a file you have to eventually file towards the edge or draw file
every stroke they make makes me so uneasy
@Megan McCarthy King Do you say anything but false?
"Don't cut toward yourself" is a dummy rule, protects idiots and/or amateurs until they're skilled enough to progress. Sadly most don't progress so dummy rules get spread as gospel.
Alright. I may not be a pro at sharpening blades but I can add some pointers.
1. I always put my blades parallel to the ground as they are much less awkward to sharpen than a perpendicular oriented blade.
2. I usually take the file and file away from the blade as I file the bevel. This allows me to handle the file with two hands. One on the handle the other on the end. Makes keeping the file angle consistent easier.
3. Stones. The reason for oil or water is for particle accumulation. I personally use only water with any blade I plan on eating with or preparing food with. I only use oil (motor oil cuz I'm cheap) on blades not used to cook or eat with. Like axes and machetes. Helps keep the rust off. I also oil up a rag and wipe down the blade after sharpening it as to have a rust proof layer. DO NOT use carcinogenic oils on food grade blades.
4. Sharpening a blade is like making love. If you do it quick, the results will suck. If you take your time and pay close attention, the results will be amazing. Even beyond what you experienced at the end of this video.
Hope that helps.
The way they run their fingers down the blades gives me anxiety. If they had a sharper blade, they would not have whole fingers anymore.
Exactly, to check the sharpness of a blade you run your finger perpendicular to the blade! That's like the first thing you learn about knifes in Cub Scouts.
Never cut myself going 30° parallel to the blade
Gunnar Young According to knife makers and blacksmiths that doesn’t actually tell you anything. They don’t recommend that you run your finger along the edge either but I’ve seen some do it cautiously as if you know what to look for it tells you more. Better tests are the paper one obviously, does it catch on your fingernail, does it shave hair etc.
@@paws27 I actually did cut myself running my finger along the edge of a new knife while testing it. The pinch method seems safer to me (but the paper test is obviously safest, followed by pinch, and then the shave test), since the edge of the blade is less likely to cut into any individual finger, but I do *NOT* recommend the perpendicular method.
@@scapeist5019 13:44
1) I will always prefer a single sided machete. The weight distribution in the blade creates a "sweet spot" about 1/4 to 1/3 down from the tip that increases the impact when cutting with it..
2) The two sides of a "double-bit" axe are normally ground at different angles. The courser angle is for normal chopping, and the finer angle side is for "limbing" a tree after it has been felled.
*The actual advice is after the first paragraph
For the love of god, don't run your fingers up and down an edge; not like you did in the beginning, that's not so bad to effectively run them down the bevel (so long as the edge isn't coming towards your fingers or running parallel but instead your fingers are rolling off of it ever so slightly, if that makes sense), but at around 10:30 it looks like you're doing the stupid version; may just be the angle though. It's the easiest way to cut yourself and any sharp edge will cut you that way. Test sharpness by running a finger perpendicular to the edge, either down across the bevel and off the edge or across it perpendicularly in a similar way, lightly, not up and down its length. Even the safer methods will cut you with something that's truly razor sharp, so careful.
Let's see; try not to roll the file up and over the bevel towards the end of a stroke like you were doing with the axe; you can, if you don't want a crisp looking bevel and want it rounded, just preference. You may, in order to keep the angle more consistent; use both hands; one holding the front of the file, to steady it. Also, with bigger nicks and worse cared for tools, you may have to file more than you did here, including just actually filing the edge and not the bevel if it is chipped or dinged deeply enough to actually damage the tool.
After you remove nicks and dings with the file by using it traditionally, you have the option of going further and cleaning up the bevels by draw filing; taking the file and holding both ends, running it down the length of the bevel while it's still perpendicular. This can be used to actually get a decent edge, if all you have is a file (ideally mill/ single cut not double cut, and something finer, but you can make do), as well. You'll still want the teeth to be cutting towards the edge, still only cutting in one direction (towards you, ideally, hence _draw_ filing), and yes you'll have to be careful not to cut yourself. Reposition your work as needed, keep the nice handle which keeps the edge away from your fingers, on the edge side while holding onto the tip of the file with your hand behind the edge. Matching the bevel angle is really the important part with all these things, assuming you're not trying to change it.
You can use water with many commercial stones that aren't wetstones (not all, if can damage some; there's stones that you apply a light amount of water to the surface, and then there's stones _designed_ for soaking completely in water), it helps the filings not clog up the pores of the stone and instead float away. It (or oil) can lead to a finer finish but really isn't necessary on the quality level of tool you're sharpening (they're hardware/ big box store store level items) and the quality of sharpening you're doing, no offense. Just using the stone at all is fine here, if it gets clogged up because you're using it dry then rub it on a flat piece of relatively smooth cement or ceramic, ideally with some water, to remove the layer of gunk. Just use the stone like it's made to be used, whichever one you get, or you'll wreck the stone.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure you're sharpening the edges persay here; they seem to have (and this is not uncommon especially on cheaper tools) edge bevels, those little tiny bevels at the very edge, rather than being a zero/ scandinavian grind where the bevels go all the way to the edge. One isn't necessarily better than the other for everything. And keeping the bevel clean is important and part of the sharpening process, it will assist in ease of cutting through things, but not actually working the edge itself. Just do the same thing (light draw filing if necessary, then the stone) on the edge bevel itself. It's especially good to do on cheaper tools like these even before you use them because they often come with really, really poorly done bevels. Test the quality of the _edges_ themselves with a paper cut or stationary slicing test; a dull blade that's otherwise fine can cut through many things when swung. If you can look along the edge, holding it up at a low angle to a point source of light (a lightbulb) and see a shine on the edge, it's dull. May be sharp enough for some gardening tasks, but it's a dull edge.
As for "can we do this on a machete" yeah, they're garden tools. Just don't use a file on a good knife or sword or nicer tool when it can be avoided; most of them come in a state where they won't need filing and should be better taken care of than that, and don't often develop such big dings or chips (and are usually better fixed with abrasives when they do). If you're making it yourself or fixing up some cheaper implement, go nuts. If you want something cheap that you can sharpen in this way, something without an edge bevel/ with a scandinavian grind, go get a mora knife, one of the ones with a moulded plastic handle. They're super cheap and as good a quality as you can get for anywhere near the price, good bushcraft/ survival items to throw in your toolbox/ survival kit, easy to sharpen. You'll find them useful I'm sure.
Breaking rouge for the win looked awesome and the name was sick af too
Walking dead 2: Attack of the Gourds.
I have never had a problem with sharpening knifes and axes in the same way. also I wouldn't use a sharpening puc for knifes as it is too coarse. I have found a wet stone works great. Great video BTW keep it up...