I don’t know about that. The dentists hated Dan more than Wendi. Wendi’s ex boyfriend said hating Dan was the Adelson family hobby. Is Wendi guilty? Yeah, most likely. Beyond a reasonable doubt?? Depends on the jury and how good her lawyer is.
I agree… without Wendi providing Dans schedule & the when he would not have the children… it wouldn’t have been possible. Without Wendi- there is really no motive! She IS the reason why ALL this happened. Her and her mother! And her mother is on tape. Wendi set her own brother up to take the fall for what she orchestrated!
I just started researching this case and the prosecutor on this video stated the poorest always get arrested and proved guilty before the wealthy but she was optimistic that Wendi and her mom Donna will probably be charged eventually! Dan loved and adored his sons and his wife Wendi, has refused to let Dan’s parents even see their grandchildren. Those boys are almost grown now, they will learn the truth and hate Wendi and her family for murdering their dad!!
Why did Adelson do such a thing? Now he is sitting in a hellhole Florida lockup contemplating his almost certain life without parole sentence in a Florida state pen. All because his wacked out sister was unhappy with a joint child custody arrangement.
@@robertburke1486 I know! You have the basis for the motive, but it was a bit deeper than that. Revenge was one part of calling the hit. The Adelsons were angry that Wendi was in their eyes trapped in Tallahassee, and the ongoing divorce litigation was starting to sting them all. In early 2014, Dan was suing Wendi for fraud in the divorce assets, which meant her law & politics career could be damaged if proven guilty, and Dan was also motioning for the grandmother Donna to have supervised visits only with the two children. These two events happened in the months leading up to the murder. The family saw this as a true crisis and the big-talker Charlie promised everyone he would pull off the maestro-move of the century for them and they wouldn't be caught. They could make it look like Katie worked for them and she would be loyal. There are also money/ life insurance motives. If you listen to the wiretaps around the time of the bump, Charlie hints to his mother a bit of regret for making it so easy for the sister, who he now said was in a 'trust fund baby situation' The mother calls her good fortune post-murder, "winning the lottery." Also, Charlie's current jail records show he's not suffering too much - constantly on the phone with dad and mom, so not much has changed going to the inside. He's also still pursuing his disability lawsuit claims from jail which tells me he fully expects to walk away from charges and collect disability, retire early, and put this behind him. I think not. But we shall see how it plays out early next year.
Yes! I concur. Can’t wait to see Dan Markel’s ex wife on the stand - fighting for her freedom - and failing! Some are buying her sweet and innocent, vulnerable victim status. Those of us with a brain, are not.
Long overdue! Mother Addelson should be indicted as well...and Dan's Children removed from Wendy and given their Fathers name back. The entire Addelson Family is Evil!!!
They have one good brother in Colorado. He has spoken and thinks the rest are all certainly involved. They tried to control this brother too- he stopped them and moved away.
So sad. Two children left fatherless and many lives destroyed by this coward. I can't fathom growing up knowing my own family took my father away from me. I hope everyone involved is prosecuted.
YES! Finally. I remember when they couldn't use this audio in the first trial against Garcia and Magbanua. 🦉🦉🦉crew, rejoice! See you in the trial chat at Magbanua's retrial! Here's hoping they've brought Wendi in for questioning again too. You know that woman was complicit.
@JJ JelyBean your very welcome. I have been glued to this case from afar (Ireland) I really believe that Wendi and the mother were also involved. Hoping for more arrests 🙌
Finally some justice.Wondering if Wendy or her mom could be accessories.Some relief for Phil and Ruth (Danny’s parents)..I hope the charges stick and he gets what he deserves-life without Parole.
KM Sings: "baby, do you got that number". Sigi "huh"? KM: "baby, do you got that number? Come on Sigi don't be so slow it's the number of the dude who stopped Donna Adelson on the streets. SIGFREDO!!!! Listen! I am giving you the last 4 numbers in code in case the FBI are listening! I'm pretending those four numbers are daycare costs." Sigi: "Huh? Huh?"
Kinda dumb to discuss all this at a restaurant no? Guy thinks he’s a gangster . I hope Dans kids go back to his parents. And this whole gang marches right into prison. They all knew. Mother and daughter.
That's why Wendi could cry the day Dan was shot because she was crying for herself. The tears were "oh shit things might seriously start happening now." She got caught by police driving down Dan's street right after the murder.....interesting! I always drive down the back street of my ex. All her friends that came to her rescue when things were getting hot on the Adelson family are seen as dumb-blinded by her performances. Let's put it this way 'no' good-caring-loving-mother would ever let anything happen to their good father. She is nothing but a monster!!! She knew the gym Dan went to that a.m. She knew the timing of his morning routine. And, she tried hard to pin in on her ex-bf telling police that he left town the same time Dan got killed. Lucky, the poor dude left a day earlier without her knowledge. I have one question for Charlie , "Do they have good TV reception in Leon County Jail?
How did they not expect(Addelsons) a call like that. They were going to be the INITIAL AND ONLY SUSPECTS after they order a hit on the brother in law! Especially with a lawyer in the family!
Idk? Can't find anything. I bet they're gonna keep him on ice for a while trying to get a plea. I bet he's going to do some time but he won't give up the real murders..ie: his sis and mom.
I seriously think this was more about money than the custody. He'd worn the petition to keep the kids in Tallahasee and if Wendi had relocated to Miami on her own, she could be paying him child support and probably alimony depending on her financial worth and income.
Charlie may have done this as a present for his little sister. But I have a feeling it wasn't as strongly motivated for that and for her. But that it was done more for the mother. It was something for her and for to please her. And similarly, Wendi's steps - out and away from that marriage and steps taken in and around the divorce - were also strongly influenced and directed by the mother, I feel. And there's evidence for it. Both of the siblings are motivated to gain approval from the old dear. She is the tribe's dominant force. Yet at the same time they're not controlled, won't be grumbling about it, feeling controlled and enmeshed. These two are happy to please her. And what they do, is a do or an action that equally and also delights themselves. Only the third sibling, guy up in New York, probably is at odds with the influence of Donna.
@@tinawalker5335 yes, you know, Tina, I watched her entire police interview last night. And to me the distress and the shock (that it had actually happened, was done) was authentic. But... my feeling is tho, and it's quite intriguing really, is that she joshed along with Charlie's jokes about it, and never explicitly scuttled them and the concept. Hit concept, option. In fact Charlie's references to it, in the way he did it, I think were an informal sort of peer to peer, sibling to sibling test on it. Option/thought still there, on table, and check in with her, see where she is kind of at with it. And when she basically, in her way went along, not chastising even the joke, that he should joke of such a thing, then that eventually was tantamount to, "go ahead" - I'll be cool with it, thank you. But at the same time never explicitly to herself taking herself to the hit, reality, concept (tho couldn't help herself from not driving past the scene). And careful to have never said anything all along that would annul the joke (or as a joke), nor say anything that would destroy her plausible deniability).
@@tinawalker5335 she's a law professor and knows she was always going to be the first suspect no matter how much she tries to downplay her criminal law knowledge despite criminal law being a core module in undergrad. She had too much to lose to be seen to be directly involved. Ps this hit job was a perfect crime until surveillance images were pieced together. now 3 pple are down and hopefully more to go.
I just don't see how Charlie conversation with Kayie at the restaurant shows he is involved. Yes, I do think he is involved, but i don't think this conversation proves anything to the jury. I also don't think any of Charlie conversation with his mom prive anything against him.
Ya, KM saying she beats b*tchs as*es for fun. Let's see how bad a*s she is now. Oh wait, we did. Crying her eyes out during verdict and sentence. Not so tough now KM
@@rhemium I've killed women and children....I've killed everything that's walked or crawled at one time or another. - Wendy Adelson. I'll see you in hell David Kenneth Lee ! 🤣
Wendi, Donna and Harvey need to be indicted or there is no true Justice. I keep hearing that politics play a huge role in Tallahassee and its going to be election year so Jack Campbell may not want to try a case against Wendi or Donna because it's not a slam dunk. I really hope and pray that our Justice system is not that superficial.
It's just part of the other pieces of evidence they have agaisnt him. Also, he was the source of those large cash deposits Katie was making in the months after the murder. And we all know what that was for.
Ironically, the proof of Katherine's innocence is in the wire taps. If Katherine doesn't know the undercover is talking about her (and clearly, she doesn't), then she isn't involved The case is that simple. And if I am her counsel, I drive home this one fact to the jury in my close - it saves her life "If she doesn't know, she isn't involved. I'll say it again. If she doesn't know, she isn't involved. Throw every other piece of evidence for and against her in the trash. If she doesn't know, she isn't involved" The one thing we know is that if Katherine is involved, she knows instantly, immediately, without questioning, the undercover is talking about her - it is not a puzzle she has to solve Judge, Jury, Prosecution ... no one has another explanation for why she doesn't know. If she doesn't know, she isn't involved
@T-LO No family member, even for a deal, will so much as hint she knew a thing while she has those boys to raise. Even the report of a rhetorical 'Who will rid me of this troublesome... babydaddy?' we already know from history will not make her culpable in any way.
I agree. He didn't say anything incriminating. But the cops and DA must have more. You know how they keep a lid on other evidence before a trial. They must have more! You know how FL is when it comes to murder.
Law enforcement's goal for the bump was to generate conversation between two co-conspirators in a murder-for-hire, but they achieved exactly the opposite What law enforcement get, what we hear in the wire taps and restaurant recording, is two people never once talking about the murder or related topics. Katie, obviously, because she wasn't involved, so has no knowledge of the murder, and Charlie thinks this is people extorting his family for reasons he can't work out Because Katie's name is mentioned by the undercover during the bump, Charlie has no understanding that the note, this guy (the undercover) is actually related to the murder of Dan Markel Law enforcement unknowingly framed Katie for the murder. It's a classic case of confirmation bias - create a theory and use corrupted "evidence" to fit that theory, thus convicting an innocent girl
How can you say Charlie has no understanding that the note is actually related to the murder of Dan Markel.? The undercover handed his mom a newspaper clipping about Dan Markel’s death.
@@MrSoccerball100 This guy 'hit the headlines' makes this comment all over the place and never considers a different point of view or the evidence for that matter... I might actually say: 'troll, best to ignore.' But you are 100% correct. The note has a newspaper clipping and his mom tells him from the start that its about the "TV" (murder) costing them more money.
Katie's life has been destroyed by law enforcement. They simply didn't think about the implications and consequences that mentioning her name during "The Bump" would have for and on her and how diseased the case would become from this one act of thoughtlessness Throwing Katie into the mix also makes things extremely confusing for Charlie because he knows she wasn't involved, so maybe the note wasn't even about the murder, he's thinking He needs to find out if Katie had anything to do with the note or indeed has anything to do with these people ... ... In Charlie's mind: "Is the note about the murder or something else entirely? If it's about the murder, why did the guy mention Katie? "The guy deliberately mentioned Katie to mom, so it must have something to do with Katie, but what? What has Katie got to do with anything?" He has a thousand questions to answer and the only way he's going to even begin answering them is by phoning Katie, probing, using and manipulating her. He's not phoning her as a coconspirator, he's phoning her on a discovery quest And to think that Charlie wouldn't have even phoned Katie, wouldn't have even thought to phone Katie, if they hadn't dropped her name What a mess, what a nightmare for Katie
Wendi, Harvey and Donna Adelson not involved in the murder. This was simply Charlie going rogue in protection of his sister and dislike of his brother-in-law Luis Rivera the one solicited as hitman through Charlie's underworld (drug) connections, Sigfredo Garcia, Luis' unlucky friend, who went on a roadtrip and found himself in the middle of a murder-for-hire .. and Katie not involved at all
@@tjjay2438 You only have to hear Luis' laughable money drop story to know he's talking bs about all of it including Katie's involvement Sigfredo's level of knowledge and involvement must also be seriously questioned. We can't just assume that he was a willing participant or even knew Luis' plans on either trip
@@hittheheadlines2942 just so weird...you must be a lawyer that makes reverse blame scenarios for a living. Your'e saying Louis was the lead man and it was just by coincidence that Sigfredo was hitchiking on the side of the road when big bad Louis picked him up. Sigfredo took this unknown ride with a future killer. Pardon me, but no snow jobs please we haven't even got over the celebration of Charlie Manson being arrested and your throwing garbage at us. Just sounds like a find-muck to me.
@@auroracpablo431 He is weird, and trying to gaslight us. just reminds of those two whack jobs defending KM. They are scum of scum. It is sad because you wish lawyers would just do their job but they are such big science-fiction script writers instead. There are good lawyers and some real bad....my opinion they are the bad.
It's like a game of chess; six years of Prosecutors coaxing Katie into a deal. They must have hoped Charlie's arrest, neatly timed before the trial, would break her The problem is, Katie is innocent, she wasn't involved. It's impossible for her to make a deal. What is she supposed to do, make stuff up?
@@dandawayMTL Don't look to the wire taps for the truth. They were tainted from the very beginning when the undercover mentioned Katie's name to Donna Adelson The evidence is in the two testimonies in the first trial. When I listened to and watched Katie I only saw honesty and sincerity in her storytelling. When I listened to Luis I realised that he was just telling us a pack of lies. From the car hire to the phone call from the car after the shooting to seeing Wendi walking with her kids to the muddled money drop story, you knew it was all made up I don't struggle with her guilt or innocence anymore as I did when I first started following the case a couple of years ago. I know she wasn't involved. Wire taps, bank records, car hire, cell tower data, Lexus, breast implants, dental work, all of it ... doesn't even qualify as circumstantial evidence
@@dandawayMTL Really encouraging to get your message, appreciate so much such a considered response and thoughts It really is a mind bender this case. Same as you I've somehow been drawn into it above all others About Wendi: Harvey, Donna and Wendi were not involved. This was simply Charlie hating on his ex brother-in-law for all the grief that he caused his sister. Listening to Donna's emails to Wendi, they weren't full of malice, just a resolve for Wendi to fight her corner Wendi came across false in that initial interrogation, totally. But I think she was just having a hard job of actually feeling emotion for what had happened in the moment and forced it a little There is no role for Wendi if Katie is innocent ... according to Luis it was Wendi and Katie colluding, organising best times to carry out the hit, location of DM on the day and arranging payment. Luis made a terrible job of keeping his story straight regarding Wendi (and Katie) through the various depositions and meetings with detectives. It seemed as though as he learnt more from detectives and media, he added to and changed his story to suit Luis' story about seeing Wendi with the kids on 17th July was an attempt to throw her into the mix. The more people he could implicate the better for him In trial, during his testimony, whenever he implicated Katie in his story, he would cover his face, wipe his eyes, cough and put his hand up to his mouth - he just couldn't handle lying about her when she was sitting right in front of him Georgia Cappleman, the lead prosecutor, has travelled so far down the wrong road now chasing Katie Chris deCoste, Katie's lawyer summed it up so well in his closing about the Prosecution team: "... they can't see it, they can't understand it, that she's innocent, she wasn't involved"
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8 years later and the real criminals are still roaming free, Wendi and Dona should be presented before a grand jury ASAP
I don’t know about that. The dentists hated Dan more than Wendi. Wendi’s ex boyfriend said hating Dan was the Adelson family hobby. Is Wendi guilty? Yeah, most likely. Beyond a reasonable doubt?? Depends on the jury and how good her lawyer is.
I agree… without Wendi providing Dans schedule & the when he would not have the children… it wouldn’t have been possible. Without Wendi- there is really no motive! She IS the reason why ALL this happened. Her and her mother! And her mother is on tape. Wendi set her own brother up to take the fall for what she orchestrated!
I just started researching this case and the prosecutor on this video stated the poorest always get arrested and proved guilty before the wealthy but she was optimistic that Wendi and her mom Donna will probably be charged eventually! Dan loved and adored his sons and his wife Wendi, has refused to let Dan’s parents even see their grandchildren. Those boys are almost grown now, they will learn the truth and hate Wendi and her family for murdering their dad!!
HAHA! Finally!! Justice…now get Wendi Adelson and the mother too!!!!
Music to my ears. Justice for Dan Markel and his sons. Hopefully Wendy is next.
Never
Really? cause I’m pretty sure it’s coming how else did the killers know Dan was leaving Florida that week? She needs to go to jail with her mother
Why did Adelson do such a thing? Now he is sitting in a hellhole Florida lockup contemplating his almost certain life without parole sentence in a Florida state pen. All because his wacked out sister was unhappy with a joint child custody arrangement.
@@robertburke1486 I know! You have the basis for the motive, but it was a bit deeper than that. Revenge was one part of calling the hit. The Adelsons were angry that Wendi was in their eyes trapped in Tallahassee, and the ongoing divorce litigation was starting to sting them all. In early 2014, Dan was suing Wendi for fraud in the divorce assets, which meant her law & politics career could be damaged if proven guilty, and Dan was also motioning for the grandmother Donna to have supervised visits only with the two children. These two events happened in the months leading up to the murder. The family saw this as a true crisis and the big-talker Charlie promised everyone he would pull off the maestro-move of the century for them and they wouldn't be caught. They could make it look like Katie worked for them and she would be loyal. There are also money/ life insurance motives. If you listen to the wiretaps around the time of the bump, Charlie hints to his mother a bit of regret for making it so easy for the sister, who he now said was in a 'trust fund baby situation' The mother calls her good fortune post-murder, "winning the lottery." Also, Charlie's current jail records show he's not suffering too much - constantly on the phone with dad and mom, so not much has changed going to the inside. He's also still pursuing his disability lawsuit claims from jail which tells me he fully expects to walk away from charges and collect disability, retire early, and put this behind him. I think not. But we shall see how it plays out early next year.
Yes! I concur.
Can’t wait to see Dan Markel’s ex wife on the stand - fighting for her freedom - and failing!
Some are buying her sweet and innocent, vulnerable victim status. Those of us with a brain, are not.
Long overdue! Mother Addelson should be indicted as well...and Dan's Children removed from Wendy and given their Fathers name back. The entire Addelson Family is Evil!!!
They have one good brother in Colorado. He has spoken and thinks the rest are all certainly involved. They tried to control this brother too- he stopped them and moved away.
@@MrsK976 You are absoluely right. Rob/Robert I think is his name. I had forgotten about him. He's a Good guy for sure. God Bless him.
@@MrsK976 He's a doctor, isn't he?
@@wintercomesearly yes.
Finally. Took long enough. It always made me sick to know the whole Adelson family has been free this whole time.
Get the wife, and the mother too. I hope that dental practice is closed down.
So sad. Two children left fatherless and many lives destroyed by this coward. I can't fathom growing up knowing my own family took my father away from me. I hope everyone involved is prosecuted.
I wonder what will happen to the boys when Wendi finally goes down for this. She's at least a co-conspirator.
The only way his sis & mom are going to go down is if he gives them up and he won't!
@@janebailey8032Your opinion didn't age well. 2 down. 1 -or 2 to go!
YES! Finally. I remember when they couldn't use this audio in the first trial against Garcia and Magbanua. 🦉🦉🦉crew, rejoice! See you in the trial chat at Magbanua's retrial! Here's hoping they've brought Wendi in for questioning again too. You know that woman was complicit.
The mother was definitely in this.....also
Gdntngn
@JJ JelyBean Adelson
@JJ JelyBean your very welcome. I have been glued to this case from afar (Ireland) I really believe that Wendi and the mother were also involved. Hoping for more arrests 🙌
@@rosiebuckley3575 absolutely 💯 👌!
addelson family needs a family prison plan
let's start with excellent dental care.
Finally. I was beginning to think there was not going to be justice in this case
Finally. YES!!! 🙏🙏for Dan and his family. 😭😭
This has been a long time coming !!
Glad they took the time to get all the evidence together even though it took 8 years so there is no reasonable doubt.
RIP Dan
Heartless people.
ABOUT TIME
Turns out everyone's in jail except for wendi
When oh when is Donna going to be arrested?
About time
Finally some justice.Wondering if Wendy or her mom could be accessories.Some relief for Phil and Ruth (Danny’s parents)..I hope the charges stick and he gets what he deserves-life without Parole.
They are more than “accessories.”
How about the death penalty. He had a man killed, shot in the head.
You know...they just might be connected in some way....hmm...maybe...
Finally !!!!!!!!!!
KM Sings: "baby, do you got that number". Sigi "huh"? KM: "baby, do you got that number? Come on Sigi don't be so slow it's the number of the dude who stopped Donna Adelson on the streets. SIGFREDO!!!! Listen! I am giving you the last 4 numbers in code in case the FBI are listening! I'm pretending those four numbers are daycare costs." Sigi: "Huh? Huh?"
Reminds me of the Simpsons: “When I press down on your foot, you smile and nod.”
“I think he’s talking to you. Lol
VERY GOOD EXCERPTS AND OVERVIEW!
It’s about time I mean it was sooo fkng obvious that the family was involved.
I know! Sickening!!
HOWWWWWWWW did this take 8 years?!?!
NICE! happy for Tallahassee
What about Donna adelson
Kinda dumb to discuss all this at a restaurant no? Guy thinks he’s a gangster .
I hope Dans kids go back to his parents. And this whole gang marches right into prison. They all knew. Mother and daughter.
That's why Wendi could cry the day Dan was shot because she was crying for herself. The tears were "oh shit things might seriously start happening now." She got caught by police driving down Dan's street right after the murder.....interesting! I always drive down the back street of my ex. All her friends that came to her rescue when things were getting hot on the Adelson family are seen as dumb-blinded by her performances. Let's put it this way 'no' good-caring-loving-mother would ever let anything happen to their good father. She is nothing but a monster!!! She knew the gym Dan went to that a.m. She knew the timing of his morning routine. And, she tried hard to pin in on her ex-bf telling police that he left town the same time Dan got killed. Lucky, the poor dude left a day earlier without her knowledge. I have one question for Charlie , "Do they have good TV reception in Leon County Jail?
Charlie THINKS he is street smart. He is right where he needs to be forever.
I can’t wait until they arrest Wendi. She knew all about the plan to kill Dan.
How did they not expect(Addelsons) a call like that. They were going to be the INITIAL AND ONLY SUSPECTS after they order a hit on the brother in law! Especially with a lawyer in the family!
Wendi & Donna should be next!!!!
Hope you are right about Wendy and her family. Mrs K
Wendy next…✌️❤️🌎
She looks great w a tan. I hope she’s getting a lot of sun for prison.
Wendi is soon I hope?
Idk? Can't find anything. I bet they're gonna keep him on ice for a while trying to get a plea. I bet he's going to do some time but he won't give up the real murders..ie: his sis and mom.
Charlie Adelson gives periodontists a bad name.
What a waste of education
FINALLY!!!!
Rest in peace 🙏🙏💔💔🙏😢 also his beautiful ❤️🙏 family
Now they can search his phone and find more on Wendy and mom 👍
I hope they have more than what they showed on here....
they have Katie lying about everything in this whole conversation. now she's about to get sentenced. you think charlie's nervous?
What does he say that is the smoking gun? I didn’t hear anything
The written transcript is available
@@DM-wi8kq i heard most of in mentour, but didnt hear the smoking gun ...
did you? ty
Finally! 😊
Finally, now arrest Wendi, Donna & the Dad! Also, Uncle Sam needs to investigate their shady finances & business…lots of fraud!
I seriously think this was more about money than the custody. He'd worn the petition to keep the kids in Tallahasee and if Wendi had relocated to Miami on her own, she could be paying him child support and probably alimony depending on her financial worth and income.
Charlie may have done this as a present for his little sister. But I have a feeling it wasn't as strongly motivated for that and for her. But that it was done more for the mother. It was something for her and for to please her. And similarly, Wendi's steps - out and away from that marriage and steps taken in and around the divorce - were also strongly influenced and directed by the mother, I feel. And there's evidence for it. Both of the siblings are motivated to gain approval from the old dear. She is the tribe's dominant force. Yet at the same time they're not controlled, won't be grumbling about it, feeling controlled and enmeshed. These two are happy to please her. And what they do, is a do or an action that equally and also delights themselves. Only the third sibling, guy up in New York, probably is at odds with the influence of Donna.
Agreed. For some reason I don’t think she actually told her mom or brother to have her kids father murdered.
@@tinawalker5335 yes, you know, Tina, I watched her entire police interview last night. And to me the distress and the shock (that it had actually happened, was done) was authentic. But... my feeling is tho, and it's quite intriguing really, is that she joshed along with Charlie's jokes about it, and never explicitly scuttled them and the concept. Hit concept, option.
In fact Charlie's references to it, in the way he did it, I think were an informal sort of peer to peer, sibling to sibling test on it. Option/thought still there, on table, and check in with her, see where she is kind of at with it.
And when she basically, in her way went along, not chastising even the joke, that he should joke of such a thing, then that eventually was tantamount to, "go ahead" - I'll be cool with it, thank you.
But at the same time never explicitly to herself taking herself to the hit, reality, concept (tho couldn't help herself from not driving past the scene). And careful to have never said anything all along that would annul the joke (or as a joke), nor say anything that would destroy her plausible deniability).
@@tinawalker5335 she's a law professor and knows she was always going to be the first suspect no matter how much she tries to downplay her criminal law knowledge despite criminal law being a core module in undergrad. She had too much to lose to be seen to be directly involved.
Ps this hit job was a perfect crime until surveillance images were pieced together. now 3 pple are down and hopefully more to go.
@@benzocorbynista3321 Sadly she might get away with the perfect crime unless her bro or KM implicates her.
I just don't see how Charlie conversation with Kayie at the restaurant shows he is involved. Yes, I do think he is involved, but i don't think this conversation proves anything to the jury. I also don't think any of Charlie conversation with his mom prive anything against him.
Finally! Hopefully Wendi is next
The law people can be patient.
Nothing but senseless.Charlie and Katie wanted to prove themselves as bad asses nothing more
Ya, KM saying she beats b*tchs as*es for fun. Let's see how bad a*s she is now. Oh wait, we did. Crying her eyes out during verdict and sentence. Not so tough now KM
Don't see Wendy Being arrested her Mom Donna yes. So Charlie and Donna will stand trial.
That's fine *
. I think wendi covered her tracks well. Donna is going down
Wonder if Katie finally flipped?????
Impossible for Katie to flip even if she wanted to - she doesn't know anything because she wasn't involved
@@hittheheadlines2942 according to you.
@@marygoff3332 Yes ! According to you, " HIT THE HEADLINES " Are you a friend of Katie Magbanua ? Why are you defending her ? She's the conduit .!
@@hittheheadlines2942 wow.....
@@auroracpablo431 thank you...must be an Adelson or Wendi's new love.
Bout time!
If they give him bail hell flee to Israel
They wouldn't take Hyman Roth, they won't take this cheese dick.
Dan ex,,,she should be next
Katherine was taping him?
No. Someone sitting on a different table.
Already knew dat was gon happen
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You'll never get Wendy !!! Too smart
"We all got it comin', kid." - W Munny
@@rhemium I've killed women and children....I've killed everything that's walked or crawled at one time or another. - Wendy Adelson. I'll see you in hell David Kenneth Lee ! 🤣
Wendi, Donna and Harvey need to be indicted or there is no true Justice. I keep hearing that politics play a huge role in Tallahassee and its going to be election year so Jack Campbell may not want to try a case against Wendi or Donna because it's not a slam dunk. I really hope and pray that our Justice system is not that superficial.
He should have settled in a non-extradition country... He had 8 years.
This audio is the smoking gun? I don't like Charlie but this audio tells me nothing except a bunch of innuendo that proves nothing, legally
It's just part of the other pieces of evidence they have agaisnt him. Also, he was the source of those large cash deposits Katie was making in the months after the murder. And we all know what that was for.
Half of all murder cases go unsolved
Ironically, the proof of Katherine's innocence is in the wire taps. If Katherine doesn't know the undercover is talking about her (and clearly, she doesn't), then she isn't involved
The case is that simple. And if I am her counsel, I drive home this one fact to the jury in my close - it saves her life
"If she doesn't know, she isn't involved. I'll say it again. If she doesn't know, she isn't involved. Throw every other piece of evidence for and against her in the trash. If she doesn't know, she isn't involved"
The one thing we know is that if Katherine is involved, she knows instantly, immediately, without questioning, the undercover is talking about her - it is not a puzzle she has to solve
Judge, Jury, Prosecution ... no one has another explanation for why she doesn't know. If she doesn't know, she isn't involved
@T-LO No family member, even for a deal, will so much as hint she knew a thing while she has those boys to raise. Even the report of a rhetorical 'Who will rid me of this troublesome... babydaddy?' we already know from history will not make her culpable in any way.
Am I missing something - because I didn't pick up anything particularly incriminating in that recording......!
Yes you're missing a lot. For starters, Katie lied during the first trial about this whole convo. Why do people lie?
They sure are concerned for a crime they supposedly they didn't commit.
I agree. He didn't say anything incriminating. But the cops and DA must have more. You know how they keep a lid on other evidence before a trial. They must have more! You know how FL is when it comes to murder.
A real privilege to be Katie's lawyer. It's not every day that you get to defend a completely innocent person
You PROB are either a paid BOT (reputation defense firm) or are not fit to comment based on available evidence.
Yah, right.
Defund the Police
Law enforcement's goal for the bump was to generate conversation between two co-conspirators in a murder-for-hire, but they achieved exactly the opposite
What law enforcement get, what we hear in the wire taps and restaurant recording, is two people never once talking about the murder or related topics. Katie, obviously, because she wasn't involved, so has no knowledge of the murder, and Charlie thinks this is people extorting his family for reasons he can't work out
Because Katie's name is mentioned by the undercover during the bump, Charlie has no understanding that the note, this guy (the undercover) is actually related to the murder of Dan Markel
Law enforcement unknowingly framed Katie for the murder. It's a classic case of confirmation bias - create a theory and use corrupted "evidence" to fit that theory, thus convicting an innocent girl
How can you say Charlie has no understanding that the note is actually related to the murder of Dan Markel.?
The undercover handed his mom a newspaper clipping about Dan Markel’s death.
@@MrSoccerball100 This guy 'hit the headlines' makes this comment all over the place and never considers a different point of view or the evidence for that matter... I might actually say: 'troll, best to ignore.' But you are 100% correct. The note has a newspaper clipping and his mom tells him from the start that its about the "TV" (murder) costing them more money.
@@ladycymbelineagreed or one of the Adelsons or Katie's friends/family
Capelman is weak. Need a stronger prosecutor
Sean she got the job done
@@josephinecoale7204 yes after two tries and had Katie not testified Katie would've been on a beach sipping Pina colada
Katie's life has been destroyed by law enforcement. They simply didn't think about the implications and consequences that mentioning her name during "The Bump" would have for and on her and how diseased the case would become from this one act of thoughtlessness
Throwing Katie into the mix also makes things extremely confusing for Charlie because he knows she wasn't involved, so maybe the note wasn't even about the murder, he's thinking
He needs to find out if Katie had anything to do with the note or indeed has anything to do with these people ...
... In Charlie's mind:
"Is the note about the murder or something else entirely? If it's about the murder, why did the guy mention Katie?
"The guy deliberately mentioned Katie to mom, so it must have something to do with Katie, but what? What has Katie got to do with anything?"
He has a thousand questions to answer and the only way he's going to even begin answering them is by phoning Katie, probing, using and manipulating her. He's not phoning her as a coconspirator, he's phoning her on a discovery quest
And to think that Charlie wouldn't have even phoned Katie, wouldn't have even thought to phone Katie, if they hadn't dropped her name
What a mess, what a nightmare for Katie
Yeah and she was found Guilty!!! Justice for Dan
And she is guilty !! The jury went with the evidence. Sorry to disappoint you!
A nightmare she created. Guilty.
You are an Adelson shill...Shameful
Who is this guy maybe you should form a free Kathie foundation
Wendi, Harvey and Donna Adelson not involved in the murder. This was simply Charlie going rogue in protection of his sister and dislike of his brother-in-law
Luis Rivera the one solicited as hitman through Charlie's underworld (drug) connections, Sigfredo Garcia, Luis' unlucky friend, who went on a roadtrip and found himself in the middle of a murder-for-hire .. and Katie not involved at all
Katie not involved? 🤣 that is the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard
BRAVO , hit the headlines ! You are soooooo knowledgeable about the DM murder case . You should sign in as a witness.
@@tjjay2438 You only have to hear Luis' laughable money drop story to know he's talking bs about all of it including Katie's involvement
Sigfredo's level of knowledge and involvement must also be seriously questioned. We can't just assume that he was a willing participant or even knew Luis' plans on either trip
@@hittheheadlines2942 just so weird...you must be a lawyer that makes reverse blame scenarios for a living. Your'e saying Louis was the lead man and it was just by coincidence that Sigfredo was hitchiking on the side of the road when big bad Louis picked him up. Sigfredo took this unknown ride with a future killer. Pardon me, but no snow jobs please we haven't even got over the celebration of Charlie Manson being arrested and your throwing garbage at us. Just sounds like a find-muck to me.
@@auroracpablo431 He is weird, and trying to gaslight us. just reminds of those two whack jobs defending KM. They are scum of scum. It is sad because you wish lawyers would just do their job but they are such big science-fiction script writers instead. There are good lawyers and some real bad....my opinion they are the bad.
It's like a game of chess; six years of Prosecutors coaxing Katie into a deal. They must have hoped Charlie's arrest, neatly timed before the trial, would break her
The problem is, Katie is innocent, she wasn't involved. It's impossible for her to make a deal. What is she supposed to do, make stuff up?
I guess we'll find out now, won't we
@@dandawayMTL Don't look to the wire taps for the truth. They were tainted from the very beginning when the undercover mentioned Katie's name to Donna Adelson
The evidence is in the two testimonies in the first trial. When I listened to and watched Katie I only saw honesty and sincerity in her storytelling. When I listened to Luis I realised that he was just telling us a pack of lies. From the car hire to the phone call from the car after the shooting to seeing Wendi walking with her kids to the muddled money drop story, you knew it was all made up
I don't struggle with her guilt or innocence anymore as I did when I first started following the case a couple of years ago. I know she wasn't involved. Wire taps, bank records, car hire, cell tower data, Lexus, breast implants, dental work, all of it ... doesn't even qualify as circumstantial evidence
@@dandawayMTL Really encouraging to get your message, appreciate so much such a considered response and thoughts
It really is a mind bender this case. Same as you I've somehow been drawn into it above all others
About Wendi:
Harvey, Donna and Wendi were not involved. This was simply Charlie hating on his ex brother-in-law for all the grief that he caused his sister. Listening to Donna's emails to Wendi, they weren't full of malice, just a resolve for Wendi to fight her corner
Wendi came across false in that initial interrogation, totally. But I think she was just having a hard job of actually feeling emotion for what had happened in the moment and forced it a little
There is no role for Wendi if Katie is innocent ... according to Luis it was Wendi and Katie colluding, organising best times to carry out the hit, location of DM on the day and arranging payment. Luis made a terrible job of keeping his story straight regarding Wendi (and Katie) through the various depositions and meetings with detectives. It seemed as though as he learnt more from detectives and media, he added to and changed his story to suit
Luis' story about seeing Wendi with the kids on 17th July was an attempt to throw her into the mix. The more people he could implicate the better for him
In trial, during his testimony, whenever he implicated Katie in his story, he would cover his face, wipe his eyes, cough and put his hand up to his mouth - he just couldn't handle lying about her when she was sitting right in front of him
Georgia Cappleman, the lead prosecutor, has travelled so far down the wrong road now chasing Katie
Chris deCoste, Katie's lawyer summed it up so well in his closing about the Prosecution team:
"... they can't see it, they can't understand it, that she's innocent, she wasn't involved"
@@dandawayMTL Yeah, definitely, you're right
Wendi to Charlie to drug dealer to Luis
@@dandawayMTL I do remember watching the LaCasse interview but I can't find it at the moment after searching for it