The "Bad Guys" of Fallout
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- The lore and complexity of the antagonists of Fallout. Ranging from Fallout 1 to Fallout 4 and everything in between. What makes them the villains? Who were they before? And why does it all matter?
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Worth pointing out that The Master isn't as smart as he thinks. He's the one who tells you about his "incredible intellectual abilities". A lot of players make that mistake and don't realize that The Master is an unreliable narrator of his own story. In my playthrough I demonstrated to him that his experiment was a failure, that the super mutants were sterile. He then realized how crazy he had become and video gamed himself. He wasn't a "super intellect"; he was experiencing megalomania and psychosis that made him THINK he was incredibly smart.
The master does have access to almost all prewar knowledge since he's become part of Mariposa and is a fairly powerful psyker. I think he's the only psyker shown throughout fallout that isn't either debilitated by his power or need extras like chems to power them up, in fact his intellect is so high that the unity have to wear protection against him or be overwhelmed and effectively mind wiped if not outright killed. The only major psychic power the master doesn't seem to actually have is precognition but it would be reasonable for him to think that his dream for unity was foresight since every other psyker has some precognition and up until the vault dweller walked in he had been right about almost everything as far as he knew.
You have to remember that he figured out FEV whilst turning into a puddle on the floor and not only did he learn it, he pretty much perfected it being able to get super mutants almost every time, super mutants that don't really need to reproduce if he achieved unity because super mutants are functionally immortal, as they age they just get bigger until they become behemoths.
He wasn't an intellectual slouch pre mutation either, he was a wasteland doctor and if Harold is to be believed (and I don't see a reason not to) one of the smartest people in the wasteland.
Moreau's biggest flaw wasn't that he wasn't intelligent, it was that he was too intelligent for his own good. When you disprove him you set him over to despair but given time it's perfectly possible and probably likely that he could reverse mutations since Virgil is able to do so and there's no way you could compare any individual institute member to the master, he out thinks them in every way.
Master was baffled about his super mutants being sterile. But there was no female super mutant. Even if they weren't sterile, what was his plan?
it’s just not represented visually ingame, but they do retain their original internal and external organs. they’re just infertile.
I thought there were female super mutants? What about Lily in New Vegas? Interesting stuff.
@@ConstellationsGaming Lily the nightkin is one of the first you see in the series but that's Bethesda Fallout.
@@supahgaming8249 guess that's it. Always wondered why there were none. They just didn't make different models
cause the muties are homies, and you always ride your homies
exposure to radiation was literally the opposite of key for successful super mutants those who had damaged genetics via radiation exposure were inferior to "prime normal" derived super mutants that's why one of the masters main goals was to find and conquer vaults
Trouble with deciding an antagonist for 76 is the man responsible for the scorched plague, Eckhart, is already dead and screwing up Appalachia from beyond the grave.
Dick Richardson= Dick Dickson
😂 ol Dick Dick
Okay so I wasn't the only one who said exactly this. 😂😂😂
Penis penisson, my favorite president
You know... That thumbnail made something occur to me.
The brotherhood really should have been the villains of fallout 3.
Think about it. Their ideology is specifically anti mutant. Even non-feral ghouls.
They just gun them down.
But the enclave, for all their many, many, many flaws, weren't anti mutant. I mean they shreked Frank Horrigan, specifically to make him a better killing machine.
They were exposed to radiation massively out at the rig. And were actively experimenting with FEV to use it on themselves.
They were monsters, sure. But why would they want to secretly genocide a large portion of Washington state. They were mutated themselves.
They wanted control, and wanting the purifier, sure. That's logical. That's a great bargaining chip to exert political soft power.
But they'd gain nothing from it being tainted. They'd only be weakening it's potential as a bargaining chip.
Now the brotherhood. Them poisoning the purifier. That makes sense. "Normal" people can still use it. But anyone mutated getting sick or dying off, that's entirely within their logic.
Even within Bethesda Lore. They doomed Rivet city to rip its reactor for The Prydwen.
They are more than capable of relying on military strength or savagery to achieve their goals. And they despise mutants.
Basically every interaction with the Enclave in F3 could have been named swapped to the brotherhood. And it would have actually improved the story.
The "evil" choice of siding with the brotherhood in those circumstances also wouldn't be so clear cut and direct.
Like yea, you'd be committing a genocide. Those are bad, you shouldn't do those. But have you seen it out there?
Genetic monstrosities roam the land and prey on the people. Sure a lot of people would die. But how many more in the long run are gonna be kidnapped by super mutants.
how many more are gonna be devoured alive by giant ants?
You'd be doing something monstrous. But how many more would live because of your actions? How many more lives could grow up in relative safety. Due to you flipping a switch?
You could argue either action is monstrous. Each condemns hundreds to death. Thousands maybe. Either passively, allowing the wasteland to continue preying on the weak, the helpless for the benefit of the brutal the cunning.
Or actively, by sabotaging Project purity. You would condemn thousands to potentially save countless more.
And that's a far more interesting choice.
Interesting perspective for sure. I never thought about the brotherhood being the ones to poison the purifier, but that would have been a cool twist. Thanks for watching and commenting, really do appreciate it.
That's a wild take on the enclave not being anti mutant 😂
What are u on about
Did you play fallout3? The enclave wants to kill anything and anyone who has been mutated
The entire enclave plot is about killing off anyone who isn’t them 😂😂 go play the game again
In the fallout games that give you options for endings, the evil character is like Benny or Kellogg, their not really evil but the plays courier hates them for something, so the NCR and legion in NV are not evil because it’s the players pov
Just like in real life when I play fallout everyone breathing and not bleeding is my antagonist
Since "antagonist" means "person, group, or force that works against the protagonist" rather than "bad guy," and because the player chooses their main antagonist in many Fallout games, y'all prolly should have covered the NCR too.
I thought about it. But, I didn’t really cover factions. So honestly who would I cover for the NCR? Kimball? Oliver? Both seem pretty distant from the narrative.
New name? Good vid as always can't wait for more keep it up
New channel! But thank you, we appreciate it.
What was the channel name before?
@@badwithsalt Lunar Legends Gaming. It’s still going but I’m over here mostly these days.
@@ConstellationsGaming ik its new ive been a long time fan ig but its been a while since i watched but good to see your still going keep it up 🫡🙏🏽
Good stuff I was looking for you guys
Here we are! Thanks for watching.
Ulysses suffer so much from his past I spare him he doesn’t deserve to die
Love Mr Lunar and Mrs Lunar voice work 🤌🏽
Great video so far
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In my mind the courier is a villian himself
With his hopeville track record and his ultimate decisions for the independent vegas
Yeah, from an outside perspective they probably look like one in most circumstances.
@@ConstellationsGaming I mean yeah the guys a maniac which is why I love him lol
Excellent Video overall! Definitely gained a Sub thanks
Thank you! Comments like yours make our day. We appreciate it.
Great video!
Thanks!
@@ConstellationsGamingspank bank updated 😮
We need more Mrs lunar 🎉
The back and forth between male and female voices is gr8 for retention
Thanks! We love doing it.
can you do Fallout Tactics and Fallout Brotherhood of Steel
Yeah I can definitely add some in if I do a part 2! Thank you for watching.
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You forgot about Father Elijah from the Dead Money DLC
I didn’t forget. I didn’t do any DLC villains besides Ulysses because he feels part of the overarching plot of New Vegas as a whole. There’ll be a part 2 video where I do all the dlc antagonists.
Who's Benny? Are you talking about chandler bing?
So we just gonna ignore doctor blackburn?
No. But he’s part of the steel dawn add-on and the only character that I included from any DLC or add-ons was Ulysses. I’ll cover the rest in future videos. 🫡
You left out Mr Burke from FO3. At the start he takes out a contract to kill you if you don't nuke Megaton.
I mean, if you talk to Tenpenny he is not even aware of Burkes' plan. He just tells Burke how much an eyesore Megaton is.
I would love to see something like this for the elder scrolls!
Cool idea. I’ll definitely add it to the list. 👍
I don't think there is such a thing as an actual evil in Elder Scrolls except for the first villain of the first game
The Daggerfall villain was doing more politics if anything
Morrowind was betrayed and doing what he had to do for what HE thought it would be better for his people
Oblivion villain was really just trying to end the power imbalance of the world being basically taken by the Septim empire
And Skyrim antagonist really was trying to break himself out of the prophecy by taking the world instead of eating it
They were bad, yes, but they were doing what they believed it was necessary for their own ideas
@@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle that’s what makes good villains. Ones that think they’re right.
I mean
Vault tech is right there...
That’s definitely more of a Fallout tv show thing. We focused on individual characters within the games and I can’t think of a vault tech antagonist from the games.
@@ConstellationsGaming I am talking about the vault experiments
I hated listening to Ulysses monologue all day but nuking the NCR was ganagster asfuck
The Only good guys in Fallout 4 is the minutmen and the institute once you take over as the director.
That’s an interesting take as far as the institute is concerned but I respect it.
The Railroad are good guys too.
Though, honestly, everyone in Fallout 4 is a borderline psychopath since no matter which route you choose, it ends up with them deciding detonating more nuclear devices in the middle of Boston is a good idea.
Funny enough, in my first playthrough, I was going to choose the Brotherhood, but then they told me their grand plan was to get a bunch of nukes and fire them at the Institute, and murder the Railroad.
So I chose the Railroad instead, and, shocked Pikachu face, they told me *their* grand plan was to detonate the nuclear reactor inside the Institute to destroy it. The Minutemen somehow through the power of lazy writing end up with an almost identical plan.
Ironically, the Institute are the only ones not choosing to nuke anyone, though they're just garden variety sociopaths with little to no interest in helping anyone on the surface.
*AD VICTORIAM INTENSIFIES*
I stand with the supporting Mr house being the canon ending but the series says otherwise
We don’t know yet. Could be possible he’s still running vegas in Season 2 of the show.
@@ConstellationsGaming most likely not, if we see the state of the strip, its in disrepair
Its not Canon, so who cares.
@@Miaubrainsthe show is 100% canon tf you on about 😂
@@MiaubrainsIt's 100% canon.
in the case of fallout 76, the main antagonist is bethesda heyooooo
great video, by the way _!!_
Haha I thought about saying it was the bugs but I didn’t want to beat a dead horse. Thanks for watching as always.
The real antagonist of 76 is Bethesda.
Fallout 76 sucks it's not a real Fallout game because it's not single player plain and simple
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This is just like that japanese soldier that keep fighting 36 years after the war ended
Let it go mf
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