Simms seems to me to be the best talent evaluator on TV. There's multiple times in my memory where he goes to bat for a guy who ends up being really good (Lamar Jackson comes to mind)
Dobbs is already a legend in my eyes. It's no cakewalk to be a QB at a major college program and graduate with a degree in aerospace engineering with perfect GPA. I'm saying this as an Ohio State grad and a fan of Stroud.
It makes perfect sense, when you look what CJ had to overcome to get to the NFL. At a young age of 13, his father, who was a pastor, commits a crime and is sentenced 38 years to life. He could have easily chosen the wrong path after that. His mom got a job at a storage facility, allowing them a place to live in the upstairs unit shared with his mom and 3 siblings. Third time they had to downsize. Better than living on the streets, close call. Played high school football with one broken contact lens because money was tight. No money for special coaching or camps, so he had to watch youtube video's of Drew Brees. He was malnourished so he had to get help with food and receive donated equipment to play football. He certainly didn't have the right of passage like Shedeur Sanders, where everything was handed to him. Developed a chip in his shoulder and had to fight for everything. Mad respect as he lost twice to my Michigan Wolverines while at Ohio State. Then the incident with his S2 Cognition test scoring only 18% compared to Bryce Young scoring 98%, which sent his draft prospects tumbling down to possibly the 4th QB to be picked. Through the grace of God, he has overcame his circumstances and become a leader of men. His accomplishments on the field, stats, and records broken as a rookie, are all accomplished by his maturity, faith, and determination to be a better player and leader.
He lost to Michigan because of the sign stealing program which ruined CJ's opportunity to win the Heisman in 2021 and 2022. The fact that he didn't have a touchdown in the 2nd half of those 2 games tells me everything I need to know. There is no way Michigan's defense is better than the NFL defenses. Also, it didn't help that OSU's defense couldn't get off the field due to the Wolverines knowing exactly what OSU's plays were. Sad state of affairs.
@@Evilene52 It may have been a blessing in disguise. Not many Heisman winners have success in the NFL and it created a chip in CJ's shoulder as he had something to prove. He almost singlehandedly beat Georgia and no team has ever came close. You get too much success in college and it gets to your head and you crash and burn in the NFL. Just ask Jonny Manziel, Tim Tebow, RG3, Troy Smith, Matt Leinart, and too many more to mention.
@@Hombre_Astuto He sure is taking a ton of excuses away from teams. 1. Nobody thought the texans had a competent oline he could survive behind. 2. Nobody felt he had WR's to keep defenses honest. 3. Nobody knew if he could process the game quick enough and make the right decisions
@@Hombre_Astuto Well name or not, all he has to do is throw to open receivers. Many qb's be so focused on 1 main wr that they get sacked and hold the ball long
As a Houston Native, The last 5 years have been rough (Watson scandal, Bill OBrien basically giving away JJ Watt & Hopkins, One and done coach).. Im sooooo glad CJ is bringing us back to relevance and erasing the narrative on Ohio State QB's
No ones talking about the fact that the Houston Texans have over 85 million in cap space this offseason . Can you imagine what this team will look like lnext year!!!
Don't forget they also have the Browns 1st round pick (plus their own) next year and an extra 5th round from the DWat trade! 😂 They are going to be DANGEROUS for the next 5 years!
@@jrod1591 Also, CJ wasn't interested in even taking the test the first time he took it during the combine and initially refused because it was after midnight, and after a very long combine day. All of the other QB's took the test much earlier on their scheduled days. It is also a testament to CJ not being a video game warrior as it simulated one of those kinds of games.
@@DWoodsII I'd be more concerned about dedication, passion, coachability, and behavior issues. Aka RED FLAGS..... jalen carter is a great rookie... I loved what I saw on tape. However, that situation surrounding him? No way I would've drafted him in the first round. His story isnt finished yet, hopefully, he stays on the straight and narrow. However, dont be surprised if character issues pop up later
To answer Simms question about if CJ is the best rookie QB ever I think he is. I think a lot of people forget how good Deshaun Watson was during his rookie year though. Tore his ACL but before that he was going absolutely off. Went into New England and put up 342 total yards and 2 TDs, 307 total yards against the Titans along with 5 Tds, 292 total yards and 5 TDs against KC, 248 total yards and 3 Tds against Cleveland, and ended his rookie campaign with 469 total yards and 4 Tds against Seattle's legion of boom. Led the Texans to a 3-3 record in that span
Glad that CJ is getting the respect he's earning, but it's so refreshing hearing respect being given to Caserio and the Texans as a whole. It's been dark at the Texans but slowly and steadily we have acquired pieces to build off of and now things are starting to fit into place. I love every moment of it.
Yep, u know I noticed he doesnt throw off balance, he throws with anticipation, and is accurate. His recievers also are reliable and fearless. That's a recipe for fewer turnovers for sure
Before the Tampa Bay game no one was talking about the incredible fact that CJ only had ONE pick all season and it's still only ONE pick!Who does that?!?!
As a Texans fan i would sincerely like to thank the Panthers for drafting Young over Stroud. 👏👏 I can only imagine that Panther's fans feel like the Portland Trailblazers when they drafted Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan 😮
the panthers were fools when they selected young over stroud. LOL! personally, my choice of the two was totally solidified when i watched in awe what stroud did against georgia last year.
Stroud is really an anomaly. Rookies aren’t supposed to be so polished. Maybe he played a lot of games in high school and college? But I’ve been saying the AFC South is absolutely loaded with young-gun QB talent. Trevor. Stroud. Levis. And even Richardson although I think he’s on the IR with a shoulder injury. If Richardson learns to slide he’ll be great as he has a ridiculously-strong arm. But Will Levis is a potential dynamo. When I first saw Levis I immediately was reminded of Phillip Rivers although Will has a higher ceiling I think. If that’s true the NFL better watch out for that division because they’re going to light up the NFL like a Christmas Tree.
Always loved Levis wish my raiders got him; he was my #2 behind stroud. That division could very much be who drafts best and which QB is better prepared. None of these teams are big spenders and are in mid markets. So, we'll see
People seem to forget Houston was only bad for 2 years. We're back, not fully back due to injuries and still holes to fill in general, but we can definitely make a wildcard appearance and steal a win. We're that dark horse team that can scare some coaches.
I wouldn't jump the gun so quick on Bryce Young...the #1 guy usually goes to a pretty bad situation....the Panthers are not good you put CJ their they're still 1-7😂
@@Double0KaneThat is Chicago pick, Panthers wasn't bad team, they traded from 7# - #1. So Bryce Young didn't go to the worst team, he made Panthers the worst team, 2024 NFL Draft Panthers will be # 1 pick, but yall already traded the # 1 pick, man thats hurts double whammy on Panthers. Let hoped Bryce Young can come back next years and wins.
@AndyTN64 wtf are you talking about? You clearly not a Panthers fan if you think we weren't & currently a bad team...We've been bad since 2018 sir not the worst in the league but bad just the same!
@AndyTN64 this team is bad all around not just Bryce our Oline is terrible, our best Wr is a 32 year old 13 year vet with no speed, 5 starters on defense on IR & we just lost Brian Burns today who has been half ass'n because he didn't get a Bosa type deal he wanted. This team is filled with holes but causals like yourself see the low hanging fruit in CJ Stroud because he's balling right now in a much better situation for him. He'd be getting killed in Carolina just the same but go off😏
Can we stop bringing up the past?! WE UNDERSTAND it was a crazy show, these past years. But this Texans team has talent! Yes first year in, but geez, to not give credit to houston, they’ll just bring the past up.
I think they went conservative against the Panthers, 13 points against a bad team averaging 30 points given up a game. They just drafted in the top 5 they have nothing to lose throwing the ball around and pressing the Panthers defense, I suspect the game plan and approach was wrong. They have to go out like the Bills against a team like that, with no fear because nothing matters till you do something like make the playoffs.
They were playing not to lose, couldn’t get Cj into rhythm and kept forcing the run when it wasn’t going anywhere making it 3rd and long damn near every drive. Not to mention the penalties
Finally someone knows what he is talkign about. Giving props to GM Nick Cesario, he truly deserves the props as he took this horrible job and turned this team around in 3 years which should have atleast taken like 5 to 6 years. GM is hella smart to get Demeco as a coach and draft CJ and also draft all these players who have been playing their butt off and making impact. Also he is very good with his trades and waiver wire and free agency
Ya also bringing Bobby In for are OC was also smart ya Bobby had a terrible game plan against the panthers but also know Bobby and CJ lead this Offense to beat top Defenses like the Steelers, saints and Buccaneers
CJ Stroud is obviously outperforming. But at his combine he had a ball speed of 59 MPH which is Kirk-Cousins good but Stroud has a 0.3 Load-to-Release (LTR) on shorter routes like slants, the latter being a lot better than Cousins. I saw them both measured on video. And Stroud is really accurate too even though his completion percentage is only in the low-60s last time I checked - I think that stat is only a mirage and Stroud’s number will just improve. But the Vikings need a QB more like Stroud or the guy that they just traded for, someone who has a quicker LTR and at least some mobility. Cousins is an excellent passer but his lack-of-mobility tends to bite him in the you-know-where at the end of playoff games. That’s at least my opinion although I know I’m right ;-)
The Texans drop a lot of passes. His stats are misleading right now with regards to completion percentage. The kid is absolutely on point and to have 14 tds with only 1 pick is insane!
i think Stroud is forced to throw the ball away at s slightly higher rate then most teams. plenty of time where none of his WRs can get open, and other times the line is just allowing pressure way too fast. every QB has throw aways, but i think Stroud is forced to have more so his completion % drops because of it. i saw somewhere around week 5 or 6 he was number 1 in off target throws which i think is a better indicator than straight completion %
Props to Simms, he had Stroud over Young before the draft.
He had CJ ahead of Bryce by a country mile also
Simms seems to me to be the best talent evaluator on TV. There's multiple times in my memory where he goes to bat for a guy who ends up being really good (Lamar Jackson comes to mind)
Stroud was my #1 an also but I also wondered was he product of talent around him. That OSU team was loaded with nfl o linemen and WRs the last 3yrs.
Exactly I was going to say that but I read you’re comment. 🤜🏽🤛🏽✌🏽
2270 passing yards,14td and 1int in 8 games. Very impressive
Give Josh Dobbs and CJ Stroud their flowers.
Different journeys, different situations, but what these two men are accomplishing is just phenomenal.
It was like seeing Geno Smith beat Russ-Denver and getting recognition, NY never showed him.
Dobbs is already a legend in my eyes. It's no cakewalk to be a QB at a major college program and graduate with a degree in aerospace engineering with perfect GPA. I'm saying this as an Ohio State grad and a fan of Stroud.
Texans were so legit in “leaking” strouds scores lmfao
It makes perfect sense, when you look what CJ had to overcome to get to the NFL. At a young age of 13, his father, who was a pastor, commits a crime and is sentenced 38 years to life. He could have easily chosen the wrong path after that. His mom got a job at a storage facility, allowing them a place to live in the upstairs unit shared with his mom and 3 siblings. Third time they had to downsize. Better than living on the streets, close call. Played high school football with one broken contact lens because money was tight. No money for special coaching or camps, so he had to watch youtube video's of Drew Brees. He was malnourished so he had to get help with food and receive donated equipment to play football. He certainly didn't have the right of passage like Shedeur Sanders, where everything was handed to him. Developed a chip in his shoulder and had to fight for everything. Mad respect as he lost twice to my Michigan Wolverines while at Ohio State. Then the incident with his S2 Cognition test scoring only 18% compared to Bryce Young scoring 98%, which sent his draft prospects tumbling down to possibly the 4th QB to be picked. Through the grace of God, he has overcame his circumstances and become a leader of men. His accomplishments on the field, stats, and records broken as a rookie, are all accomplished by his maturity, faith, and determination to be a better player and leader.
He lost to Michigan because of the sign stealing program which ruined CJ's opportunity to win the Heisman in 2021 and 2022. The fact that he didn't have a touchdown in the 2nd half of those 2 games tells me everything I need to know. There is no way Michigan's defense is better than the NFL defenses. Also, it didn't help that OSU's defense couldn't get off the field due to the Wolverines knowing exactly what OSU's plays were. Sad state of affairs.
@@Evilene52 It may have been a blessing in disguise. Not many Heisman winners have success in the NFL and it created a chip in CJ's shoulder as he had something to prove. He almost singlehandedly beat Georgia and no team has ever came close. You get too much success in college and it gets to your head and you crash and burn in the NFL. Just ask Jonny Manziel, Tim Tebow, RG3, Troy Smith, Matt Leinart, and too many more to mention.
i never seen an offensive rookie of the year award wrapped up so quickly in the nfl
I don’t know how he’s doing it with no name wr’s. He’s taking the excuses away from a lot of people
Not no name WRs. Young WRs, niko collins can be a lie fit number 1 and tank dell can be one of the best slot receivers in the nfl
@@Hombre_Astuto He sure is taking a ton of excuses away from teams. 1. Nobody thought the texans had a competent oline he could survive behind. 2. Nobody felt he had WR's to keep defenses honest. 3. Nobody knew if he could process the game quick enough and make the right decisions
@@Hombre_Astuto Well name or not, all he has to do is throw to open receivers. Many qb's be so focused on 1 main wr that they get sacked and hold the ball long
As a Houston Native, The last 5 years have been rough (Watson scandal, Bill OBrien basically giving away JJ Watt & Hopkins, One and done coach).. Im sooooo glad CJ is bringing us back to relevance and erasing the narrative on Ohio State QB's
Man I’m happy for y’all honestly and he’s damn near vet honestly!
had him #1
No ones talking about the fact that the Houston Texans have over 85 million in cap space this offseason . Can you imagine what this team will look like lnext year!!!
They get a star pash rusher to go opposite of will Anderson, it's lights out. And someone to replace Kenyon Green
They don’t even have a legitimate Wr 1 yet this is crazy
come on down tee higgins@@gagegrubb102
@@gagegrubb102Yes they do. His name is Nico Collins.
Don't forget they also have the Browns 1st round pick (plus their own) next year and an extra 5th round from the DWat trade! 😂 They are going to be DANGEROUS for the next 5 years!
CJ for MVP!
Texans future is bright with this kid 💯
Stroud and Dobbs are the TRUTH! They do not buckle under pressure. Both comebacks were amazing.
NFL cognitive test vs CJ Stroud’s on field performance
One of the dumbest things these executives came up with. Either you can ball or you can’t.
The people who did the test also said that the test scores reported WASN’T the ones he actually got.
@@DWoodsIIfacts
@@jrod1591 Also, CJ wasn't interested in even taking the test the first time he took it during the combine and initially refused because it was after midnight, and after a very long combine day. All of the other QB's took the test much earlier on their scheduled days. It is also a testament to CJ not being a video game warrior as it simulated one of those kinds of games.
@@DWoodsII I'd be more concerned about dedication, passion, coachability, and behavior issues. Aka RED FLAGS..... jalen carter is a great rookie... I loved what I saw on tape.
However, that situation surrounding him? No way I would've drafted him in the first round. His story isnt finished yet, hopefully, he stays on the straight and narrow.
However, dont be surprised if character issues pop up later
CJ said F your dumb tests, and watch me make a fool out of you believing in them-just like Dan Marino.
To answer Simms question about if CJ is the best rookie QB ever I think he is. I think a lot of people forget how good Deshaun Watson was during his rookie year though. Tore his ACL but before that he was going absolutely off. Went into New England and put up 342 total yards and 2 TDs, 307 total yards against the Titans along with 5 Tds, 292 total yards and 5 TDs against KC, 248 total yards and 3 Tds against Cleveland, and ended his rookie campaign with 469 total yards and 4 Tds against Seattle's legion of boom. Led the Texans to a 3-3 record in that span
I need to start saving now because....That Super Bowl the Texans will be playing in a couple years is one I WILL NOT MISS. 🤘-TOWN
Great Job Mr. Stroud.
Hope all goes well in your Personal Life.
Glad that CJ is getting the respect he's earning, but it's so refreshing hearing respect being given to Caserio and the Texans as a whole. It's been dark at the Texans but slowly and steadily we have acquired pieces to build off of and now things are starting to fit into place. I love every moment of it.
The kid has ONE interception, every passer above him has 7+.
Yep, u know I noticed he doesnt throw off balance, he throws with anticipation, and is accurate. His recievers also are reliable and fearless. That's a recipe for fewer turnovers for sure
Don’t forget Stingley and Green.😂😂😂
Before the Tampa Bay game no one was talking about the incredible fact that CJ only had ONE pick all season and it's still only ONE pick!Who does that?!?!
Simms for the most part nails his QB rankings each year. A lot of teams are gonna have to start looking at his evaluations seriously
Except he totally blew it on Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence.
So much for the S2 test!
As a Texans fan i would sincerely like to thank the Panthers for drafting Young over Stroud. 👏👏
I can only imagine that Panther's fans feel like the Portland Trailblazers when they drafted Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan 😮
Yall were dead wrong! Texans will win the Superbowl this year.
the panthers were fools when they selected young over stroud. LOL! personally, my choice of the two was totally solidified when i watched in awe what stroud did against georgia last year.
Having no kicker forced the Texans offense to put up touchdowns
Its Nick tried to Stroud to fall to #2.
Stroud is really an anomaly. Rookies aren’t supposed to be so polished. Maybe he played a lot of games in high school and college? But I’ve been saying the AFC South is absolutely loaded with young-gun QB talent. Trevor. Stroud. Levis. And even Richardson although I think he’s on the IR with a shoulder injury. If Richardson learns to slide he’ll be great as he has a ridiculously-strong arm. But Will Levis is a potential dynamo. When I first saw Levis I immediately was reminded of Phillip Rivers although Will has a higher ceiling I think. If that’s true the NFL better watch out for that division because they’re going to light up the NFL like a Christmas Tree.
Always loved Levis wish my raiders got him; he was my #2 behind stroud. That division could very much be who drafts best and which QB is better prepared.
None of these teams are big spenders and are in mid markets. So, we'll see
People seem to forget Houston was only bad for 2 years. We're back, not fully back due to injuries and still holes to fill in general, but we can definitely make a wildcard appearance and steal a win. We're that dark horse team that can scare some coaches.
Lol. We have always been bad. Yes we have had some pretty good teams but we have never even gotten out of the divisional round
Caserio deserves some credit
rancho cucamonga stand up
Simms, more often than not, is on point.
Luck had 18 Ints. damn...
MVP!
but bryce young is better ahhahah. the fact the panthers took bryce young is hilarious. bad organizations do bad things always
I wouldn't jump the gun so quick on Bryce Young...the #1 guy usually goes to a pretty bad situation....the Panthers are not good you put CJ their they're still 1-7😂
@@Double0KaneThat is Chicago pick, Panthers wasn't bad team, they traded from 7# - #1. So Bryce Young didn't go to the worst team, he made Panthers the worst team, 2024 NFL Draft Panthers will be # 1 pick, but yall already traded the # 1 pick, man thats hurts double whammy on Panthers. Let hoped Bryce Young can come back next years and wins.
@AndyTN64 wtf are you talking about? You clearly not a Panthers fan if you think we weren't & currently a bad team...We've been bad since 2018 sir not the worst in the league but bad just the same!
@AndyTN64 this team is bad all around not just Bryce our Oline is terrible, our best Wr is a 32 year old 13 year vet with no speed, 5 starters on defense on IR & we just lost Brian Burns today who has been half ass'n because he didn't get a Bosa type deal he wanted. This team is filled with holes but causals like yourself see the low hanging fruit in CJ Stroud because he's balling right now in a much better situation for him. He'd be getting killed in Carolina just the same but go off😏
Can we stop bringing up the past?! WE UNDERSTAND it was a crazy show, these past years. But this Texans team has talent! Yes first year in, but geez, to not give credit to houston, they’ll just bring the past up.
That cowboys bs was very unnecessary..
let's go Texans
Nooooobody let this dude into one of those massage establishments
When teams like Panthers trade the farm for Young, they were hoping for results like Stroud
Do y’all think the Texans will get flexed into a primetime game at all this season?
I’d love it
Where are all the naysayers that railed against O.S. QB's?
Dameon Pierce and star RB dont belong in the same sentence lol
reminds me of peak deshaun
I think they went conservative against the Panthers, 13 points against a bad team averaging 30 points given up a game. They just drafted in the top 5 they have nothing to lose throwing the ball around and pressing the Panthers defense, I suspect the game plan and approach was wrong. They have to go out like the Bills against a team like that, with no fear because nothing matters till you do something like make the playoffs.
I'm convinced CJ wanted to throw his friend a bone. Everyone has been so down on Bryce that CJ said..."I got you brother."
@@Evilene52 no way 😂
That had to be the case cause they came out this weak and fearlessly chucked the ball for almost 500yds
They were playing not to lose, couldn’t get Cj into rhythm and kept forcing the run when it wasn’t going anywhere making it 3rd and long damn near every drive. Not to mention the penalties
CJ Stroud 🟰 A Black Aaron Rodgers (inHisPrime)‼️
It was the titans who spread that stroud cognitive test
Finally someone knows what he is talkign about. Giving props to GM Nick Cesario, he truly deserves the props as he took this horrible job and turned this team around in 3 years which should have atleast taken like 5 to 6 years. GM is hella smart to get Demeco as a coach and draft CJ and also draft all these players who have been playing their butt off and making impact. Also he is very good with his trades and waiver wire and free agency
Ya also bringing Bobby In for are OC was also smart ya Bobby had a terrible game plan against the panthers but also know Bobby and CJ lead this Offense to beat top Defenses like the Steelers, saints and Buccaneers
Dan Marino's rookie season.
Who’s this guy throwing to.
CJ Stroud is obviously outperforming. But at his combine he had a ball speed of 59 MPH which is Kirk-Cousins good but Stroud has a 0.3 Load-to-Release (LTR) on shorter routes like slants, the latter being a lot better than Cousins. I saw them both measured on video. And Stroud is really accurate too even though his completion percentage is only in the low-60s last time I checked - I think that stat is only a mirage and Stroud’s number will just improve. But the Vikings need a QB more like Stroud or the guy that they just traded for, someone who has a quicker LTR and at least some mobility. Cousins is an excellent passer but his lack-of-mobility tends to bite him in the you-know-where at the end of playoff games. That’s at least my opinion although I know I’m right ;-)
The Texans drop a lot of passes. His stats are misleading right now with regards to completion percentage. The kid is absolutely on point and to have 14 tds with only 1 pick is insane!
i think Stroud is forced to throw the ball away at s slightly higher rate then most teams. plenty of time where none of his WRs can get open, and other times the line is just allowing pressure way too fast. every QB has throw aways, but i think Stroud is forced to have more so his completion % drops because of it. i saw somewhere around week 5 or 6 he was number 1 in off target throws which i think is a better indicator than straight completion %
Dink and Donk they're referring to Bryce Young 😂😂😂 David Teppers 🤡 first round pick
Yep and the GM and HC will the scapegoat
correction-you mean Mrs.Teppers first round pick
@@jaycoesq Correct. It seems like all the picks were coming from her. Hubbard and Bryce
Imagine if the Texans had drafted Sauce Gardner instead of Derek Stingley…
Sting will be fine, just a late bloomer