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I've learned more watching two videos from you than I did all year. Specifically about leaf shutter, rolling shutter, and ND filters for flash work. And how they are interrelated. Thanks for this clear explanation.
I finally understand ES! So that’s why high shutter speed on ES still produced rolling shutter. THANK YOU. At least now I know it’s for stills at equivalence of 1/15.
Let me just jump in and point out there there is another situation where the ND filter can help out: When you are trying to shoot with a slow shutter speed in a bright place. Most often, this is a case where you are trying to shoot moving cars and you want them to be blurs. Lowering your shutter speed really slow will mean that your aperture has to be really high. If you are at the aperture limit and still want to go slower with the shutter, the ND filter will help you out. :) It's so rare that anyone would want to do this I didn't bother to discuss it in the video. :)
This case is common for time lapse photography, you may want to take long exposures, otherwise motion looks very jittery when you create a video from the stills. If you take a 2 second exposure every 4 seconds the resulting video will look like it was taken using a 180 degree shutter angle. A 3 stop ND filter will likely not be enough to make this work in full daylight, though.
Another use of the ND filter is to capture motion blur, where the required slow shutter speed would otherwise allow too much light and blow out the image.
I actually bought a 4-stop 1.2 ND filter for my X100F, because to shoot “sunny f/16” at f/2 requires 4 stops to get you down to 1/1000s. Works well, and just about every daylight photo in my Instagram is using that combo. In other conditions the 3 stop internal ND is enough. Also I figure you’ll need a 7 stop ND if you want to shoot cinematic video with it at 24fps 1/50s f/2 in daylight, but I haven’t tried that yet.
Thanks again for turning me on to the Great x100F... I never leave home without it! The ND and a polarize lens do work well together, especially for automotive photography. Long exposures benefits for color ect. also are notable.
That's a good question. Anytime I have had a filter on my camera I have always had a lens hood. Lens cap will not fit on the camera if you have a filter on it
I did do some experimenting with the ND filter on my X100F to produce motion blur, but haven't done much so far with my X100V. I believe the ND filter on the former camera was 3 stops and the latter 4 stops.
I wished I had watched this video before going on vacation. I was trying to get a swallow depth of field on the beached of Hawaii but ALL my shots were totally blown out and unusable. Thanks for sharing this video.
@@BoorayPerry Actually I think but do please check, the Panasonic Lumix small little LX3, LX5 and LX7 have this feature too although it is an entirely different type of camera altogether.
As I’ve understood the issue of rolling shutter its there in both Electronic and Mechanical shutters since they’re both more or less electronic when it comes to pixel readouts. There are no “true” global shutters on the market yet. However the issue becomes more evident on electronic shutters.
Great and useful explanations. Please do a video of how to use the Built in ND and the built in flash (I know, I know it’s tiny and direct.) for outdoor portraits!
The problem with using the neutral density filter with the built-in flash is that it also cut sthe power of the flash which isn't very powerful to begin with
I recently purchased a Fujifilm X100F digital camera, as my first 'serious' digital camera. I'm still learning how to use all it's built-in features. Being as I'm used to an all-manual control 35 mm film SLR: I still prefer having control over the exposure and predominantly use my X100F in 'all manual' mode: manual focusing, manual exposure setting. One of my favorite photographic subjects is waterfalls; I just love those waterfall photos in which the water motion is captured as a soft 'flow'. Can somebody out there coach me if I'm approaching this the right way? The object is to be able to get a slow enough shutter speed to not 'freeze' the flowing water but rather to get that 'flowing water' effect in a still photograph. I set the ISO to 'L' (ISO 100 equivalent, I think), mechanical shutter, neutral density filter option chosen, and a lens aperture chosen which will yield correct exposure but yield a slow enough shutter speed to get that 'flowing water' effect in the photograph. In 'normal' daylight (mid-afternoon sunlight, no clouds); the slowest shutter speed I seem to get is 1/4 second with lens aperture set at f/16, even with the neutral density filter option activated. I would like to be able to use slower shutter speed in that situation, something like a half second or slower. Am I missing something here? Oh and can I use a polarizing filter on the X100F? Thanks.
Yes, you can use a polarizing filter. I have a video on my channel about that. :) ruclips.net/video/1JSbV93sbGI/видео.html If you have your ISO at 100, aperture at f16 and ND filter on and you still can't get a slow enough shutter speed then the problem is that it is just too bright. You'll need to put another ND filter on the camera.
Thanks. I tried to shoot falling grapes in a glass of water, using a pro flash. I wanted to freeze the movement, but the grapes always had movement blur. As a long time Nikon shooter, I couldn't understand what was going on. Also, the numbers were red as you mention, so I think that indeed when you go out of spec for the mechanical shutter, the electronic shutter is used. I will have to test again.
Just come across you after I purchased a X100f and needed to get to grips with the settings (Nikon man for my pro weddings). Mate, great vids, you have a really nice way of explaining things and throwing in extra bits of info . Thanks for the help. Now, I just need to out and shoot with it :)
you mentioned mechanical shutter and electronic shutter on the S, where in the menu do you get to choose? I have not seen that option on my S. How do I keep it at mechanical? Thanks!
Very, very well presented. Especially the parts about being able to shoot sometimes at more than 1/1000 at f/2 with the mechanical shutter and the issues that can occur with the electronic shutter. The manual does warn us about that. Thanks.
Most auto-aperture lenses aren't very consistant at small apertures or very fast shutter speeds. For example this is what causes flicker in time lapse, because the aperture is opening and shutting each frame. Fuji saying that you shouldn't use 1/4000th at F2 is because they want results to be consistant.
Great explanation but I still don't get it. I usually have my shutter speed, aperture and ISO all set to AUTO and my X100F usually sets the aperture to F2 automatically, and I've gotten wonderful blurry backgrounds WITHOUT the ND filter in bright midday sun. If I can get the same results in AUTO mode without the ND filter enabled, why should I bother enabling it? If something is too bright or dark, I use the top dial to increase or decrease the exposure by +1 or -1 as required.
As I mentioned in the video, I suspect that the camera in AUTO mode is switching to electronic shutter when faced with a very bright exposure and f2.0. This will work just fine as long as there isn't any fast movement in the image. The ND filter isn't something you need to use a lot, it's just very handy to have built in to the camera. Also, your X100F sets the aperture to f2 automatically when outside on a bright day? I think you may need to test that theory. I've never seen a camera set to full auto that shoots wide open when it doesn't have to. :)
Yes, the ND filter on the X100f is a great feature unless you fail to turn it off while shooting Queen and Adam Lambert from the pit and don't realize that your images are all under exposed until you get home!
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hopefully someday Fuji will improve their sensors to be able to read as fast as the Sony A9 which doesn't have the same issues with it's electronic shutter.
Hi Booray cracking Chanel here, will the nd filter work if the camera is in full auto mode ,or does it only work when in manual ,cheers from mike ,Manchester England
Yes. It's in the manual. Also you can test it yourself set the aperture to f2 and then set the shutter speed to 4,000 and you'll see that the number 4000 is red inside the viewfinder.
@@BoorayPerry The problem is that the shutter is not completely open for a full 1/4000s. The shutter lives next to the aperture blades, and at f/8 it completely uncovers the aperture for that 1/4000s, but it can't move fast enough to do that for a larger f-stop "because physics". This makes the exposure less accurate. I doubt that setting f/2.0 at 1/4000s will break anything, because the shutter mechanism does not care what the f-stop is, they're different mechanisms.
Great question! This limitation only applies to the Fuji x100 series because of the leaf shutter. Other cameras with gate shutters can operate fine at any speed and aperture. I have another video on my channel that explains the leaf shutter and how it works.
@@BoorayPerry Thanks for your reply. I am considering this camera for my "grab and go" second camera and hadn't heard of this issue before I saw you video. I like your style and have subscribed.
It is a limitation to be sure but in return you get a leaf shutter which enables you to use a flash at really high shutter speeds which even high-end DSLRs cannot do.
Probably it's best use is that it is completely silent which would be a bonus on any other camera. But because this camera is practically silent anyway...
I already stopped at "you shutter speed wont go as high as pro cameras" Its a 35mm camera.. never used a hight shutterspeed than that when doing streetphotography. Also an f2 aperture at 35mm is enough 🤣
I agree that f2 is pretty good but the 1/1000 top shutter speed is a little low and having that built-in neutral density filter really comes in handy. I use it all the time.
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I've learned more watching two videos from you than I did all year. Specifically about leaf shutter, rolling shutter, and ND filters for flash work. And how they are interrelated. Thanks for this clear explanation.
I can't tell you how great that makes me feel. Thanks for taking the time to write. :)
That bonus explanation of electronic, rolling shutter is genuinely helpful.
I should probably do a separate video just on that for the search engines 😁
Totally agree
I finally understand ES! So that’s why high shutter speed on ES still produced rolling shutter. THANK YOU. At least now I know it’s for stills at equivalence of 1/15.
Let me just jump in and point out there there is another situation where the ND filter can help out: When you are trying to shoot with a slow shutter speed in a bright place. Most often, this is a case where you are trying to shoot moving cars and you want them to be blurs. Lowering your shutter speed really slow will mean that your aperture has to be really high. If you are at the aperture limit and still want to go slower with the shutter, the ND filter will help you out. :)
It's so rare that anyone would want to do this I didn't bother to discuss it in the video. :)
This case is common for time lapse photography, you may want to take long exposures, otherwise motion looks very jittery when you create a video from the stills. If you take a 2 second exposure every 4 seconds the resulting video will look like it was taken using a 180 degree shutter angle. A 3 stop ND filter will likely not be enough to make this work in full daylight, though.
Another use of the ND filter is to capture motion blur, where the required slow shutter speed would otherwise allow too much light and blow out the image.
Wow. You pack a lot of info into a brief video! Thank you 🙏
Thanks!
I actually bought a 4-stop 1.2 ND filter for my X100F, because to shoot “sunny f/16” at f/2 requires 4 stops to get you down to 1/1000s. Works well, and just about every daylight photo in my Instagram is using that combo. In other conditions the 3 stop internal ND is enough.
Also I figure you’ll need a 7 stop ND if you want to shoot cinematic video with it at 24fps 1/50s f/2 in daylight, but I haven’t tried that yet.
Great explanation of when to use the ND. I hadn’t thought of using it for super-shallow depth of field and it makes perfect sense. Thanks!
If I'm outside on a bright day I turn it on just so I have more options 😎
finally someone who explains it thanks
You're welcome 😆
Thanks again for turning me on to the Great x100F... I never leave home without it! The ND and a polarize lens do work well together, especially for automotive photography. Long exposures benefits for color ect. also are notable.
I have a polarizing filter I carry as well. :)
@@BoorayPerry Can I still use the lens cap with the filter on? If not how can i protect it from scratches especially when i don't want the lens hood.
That's a good question. Anytime I have had a filter on my camera I have always had a lens hood. Lens cap will not fit on the camera if you have a filter on it
I did do some experimenting with the ND filter on my X100F to produce motion blur, but haven't done much so far with my X100V. I believe the ND filter on the former camera was 3 stops and the latter 4 stops.
Hey. I really enjoy your Videos. Most things are suitable for X100V too. 👍
Yes... I sometimes have to make a new video for the X100V that is exactly the same as the one I made for the X100F. :)
Excellent information sir!
Thank you!!
Thanks for clearing this up. I have the evf rocker button set for the nd filter and find that helpful
I wished I had watched this video before going on vacation. I was trying to get a swallow depth of field on the beached of Hawaii but ALL my shots were totally blown out and unusable. Thanks for sharing this video.
It's a really cool feature. I've never seen another camera that has it.
@@BoorayPerry Actually I think but do please check, the Panasonic Lumix small little LX3, LX5 and LX7 have this feature too although it is an entirely different type of camera altogether.
As I’ve understood the issue of rolling shutter its there in both Electronic and Mechanical shutters since they’re both more or less electronic when it comes to pixel readouts. There are no “true” global shutters on the market yet. However the issue becomes more evident on electronic shutters.
Great explanation Booray. I've always wondered about the kinds of situations I would use the built in ND filter. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for watching!
Great and useful explanations. Please do a video of how to use the Built in ND and the built in flash (I know, I know it’s tiny and direct.) for outdoor portraits!
The problem with using the neutral density filter with the built-in flash is that it also cut sthe power of the flash which isn't very powerful to begin with
I recently purchased a Fujifilm X100F digital camera, as my first 'serious' digital camera. I'm still learning how to use all it's built-in features. Being as I'm used to an all-manual control 35 mm film SLR: I still prefer having control over the exposure and predominantly use my X100F in 'all manual' mode: manual focusing, manual exposure setting. One of my favorite photographic subjects is waterfalls; I just love those waterfall photos in which the water motion is captured as a soft 'flow'. Can somebody out there coach me if I'm approaching this the right way? The object is to be able to get a slow enough shutter speed to not 'freeze' the flowing water but rather to get that 'flowing water' effect in a still photograph. I set the ISO to 'L' (ISO 100 equivalent, I think), mechanical shutter, neutral density filter option chosen, and a lens aperture chosen which will yield correct exposure but yield a slow enough shutter speed to get that 'flowing water' effect in the photograph. In 'normal' daylight (mid-afternoon sunlight, no clouds); the slowest shutter speed I seem to get is 1/4 second with lens aperture set at f/16, even with the neutral density filter option activated. I would like to be able to use slower shutter speed in that situation, something like a half second or slower. Am I missing something here? Oh and can I use a polarizing filter on the X100F? Thanks.
Yes, you can use a polarizing filter. I have a video on my channel about that. :)
ruclips.net/video/1JSbV93sbGI/видео.html
If you have your ISO at 100, aperture at f16 and ND filter on and you still can't get a slow enough shutter speed then the problem is that it is just too bright. You'll need to put another ND filter on the camera.
Thanks. I tried to shoot falling grapes in a glass of water, using a pro flash. I wanted to freeze the movement, but the grapes always had movement blur. As a long time Nikon shooter, I couldn't understand what was going on. Also, the numbers were red as you mention, so I think that indeed when you go out of spec for the mechanical shutter, the electronic shutter is used. I will have to test again.
Be sure and let us know what happens 😊
Bruno Gallant instead of using the shutter to freeze the grape use the flash duration to freeze the grape.
Excellent explanation. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Very informative video, as usual. Thanks
very educational thnx
Perfectly and easily understandable explained - thanks
Thanks!
Damn, i love my leaf shutter on my Fujifilm X100 :)
😀
Just come across you after I purchased a X100f and needed to get to grips with the settings (Nikon man for my pro weddings). Mate, great vids, you have a really nice way of explaining things and throwing in extra bits of info . Thanks for the help. Now, I just need to out and shoot with it :)
Thanks a lot! That makes me feel great 😁
you mentioned mechanical shutter and electronic shutter on the S, where in the menu do you get to choose? I have not seen that option on my S. How do I keep it at mechanical? Thanks!
Did I say there was an electronic shuttle on the X100S? I'm so sorry if I did. It's my understanding that it doesn't have one.
Thanks!
Very, very well presented. Especially the parts about being able to shoot sometimes at more than 1/1000 at f/2 with the mechanical shutter and the issues that can occur with the electronic shutter. The manual does warn us about that. Thanks.
P.S. I bought the Godox TT350 because of your recommendation on the video and it is excellent. As is the built-in flash for close fill-in situations.
Thanks. You making it easy for us to understand 👍. Subscribed 😊
Thanks!
Just th explanation I need. Thanks. I am a new subscriber.
Thanks!
good stuff.. very instructive. Thank you
Thank you for this!
Thanks for the explanation! Already subscribed!
Learnt so much! Thank you.
Hi Mr. Perry! Thanks a lot fot the wonderful explanation. I was just wondering where to set the N/D filter in the camera. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
OH! That was a question! Sorry! :)
The ND Filter is in the "Shooting Setting: menu (looks like a camera) on the 2nd screen
Booray Perry Thank you very much Mr. Perry! You helped me a lot. Now I put it on the shorcut button, I think it’s worth having that quick access!
Most auto-aperture lenses aren't very consistant at small apertures or very fast shutter speeds. For example this is what causes flicker in time lapse, because the aperture is opening and shutting each frame.
Fuji saying that you shouldn't use 1/4000th at F2 is because they want results to be consistant.
Great explanation but I still don't get it. I usually have my shutter speed, aperture and ISO all set to AUTO and my X100F usually sets the aperture to F2 automatically, and I've gotten wonderful blurry backgrounds WITHOUT the ND filter in bright midday sun. If I can get the same results in AUTO mode without the ND filter enabled, why should I bother enabling it? If something is too bright or dark, I use the top dial to increase or decrease the exposure by +1 or -1 as required.
As I mentioned in the video, I suspect that the camera in AUTO mode is switching to electronic shutter when faced with a very bright exposure and f2.0. This will work just fine as long as there isn't any fast movement in the image.
The ND filter isn't something you need to use a lot, it's just very handy to have built in to the camera.
Also, your X100F sets the aperture to f2 automatically when outside on a bright day? I think you may need to test that theory. I've never seen a camera set to full auto that shoots wide open when it doesn't have to. :)
Can the x100f go under 200 iso? You mentioned going to 100 iso but I can't find that in settings
I don't know about the F but teh V can so i suspect the F can. Set the Iso to "C" and you can go below 160 in manual.
Yes, the ND filter on the X100f is a great feature unless you fail to turn it off while shooting Queen and Adam Lambert from the pit and don't realize that your images are all under exposed until you get home!
you got me with "are you with me?" :D
Lol 🤣🤣
Do you work in radio or voiceovers? You sound great and I swear I’ve heard your voice before.
I was a professional Disc Jockey for 20 years. I spent 7 years at ABC Radio Networks and was heard in about 62 towns and worldwide on Armed Forces Radio so if you lived in a small town between 1995 and 2001 you might have heard me. :)
The 100th limit is for flash as flash at 2000th up does not work properly...... I think
hopefully someday Fuji will improve their sensors to be able to read as fast as the Sony A9 which doesn't have the same issues with it's electronic shutter.
Is there an image quality/color difference in the RAF file when using the ND filter on the X100F? Lot’s of greetings, Dennis 🇳🇱
This is a great question. I haven't noticed one myself. I mean, when I look at a series that had some ND shots I can't pick out the ND shots. :)
wow..well explained..tq
Hi Booray cracking Chanel here, will the nd filter work if the camera is in full auto mode ,or does it only work when in manual ,cheers from mike ,Manchester England
Pretty sure it does. It works for me when I have 2 of the three settings in auto.
Great videos. Thanks. Through could be better still with diagrams.
I’ve never read a restriction on shutter speed at F2 at 4000. Are you sure.
Yes. It's in the manual. Also you can test it yourself set the aperture to f2 and then set the shutter speed to 4,000 and you'll see that the number 4000 is red inside the viewfinder.
@@BoorayPerry The problem is that the shutter is not completely open for a full 1/4000s. The shutter lives next to the aperture blades, and at f/8 it completely uncovers the aperture for that 1/4000s, but it can't move fast enough to do that for a larger f-stop "because physics". This makes the exposure less accurate.
I doubt that setting f/2.0 at 1/4000s will break anything, because the shutter mechanism does not care what the f-stop is, they're different mechanisms.
Thanks. I didn’t know that.... good to know.
@@ge48421 yes of course.. the shutter is a different mechanism than the aperture. What was I thinking? Thanks! 😁
so at F/2 your max shutter speed is 1/1000 of a sec. What about f/2.8, what's the max shutter speed?
Same. You can go to 1/2000 at f4 and 1/4000 at f8
So is that logic of not using 1/4000 at F2 good for all cameras or just the X100F?
Great question!
This limitation only applies to the Fuji x100 series because of the leaf shutter. Other cameras with gate shutters can operate fine at any speed and aperture. I have another video on my channel that explains the leaf shutter and how it works.
ruclips.net/video/DgHDM8tvkpU/видео.html.
@@BoorayPerry Thanks for your reply. I am considering this camera for my "grab and go" second camera and hadn't heard of this issue before I saw you video. I like your style and have subscribed.
It is a limitation to be sure but in return you get a leaf shutter which enables you to use a flash at really high shutter speeds which even high-end DSLRs cannot do.
Can the ND filter be used on the Fuijifilm X100F for video?
Yes. 😀
@@BoorayPerry Is there a special way to use it? It allows me to turn on and off in picture mode but when I switch to video, I am unable to change.
Well I have to apologize. I was wrong about that. The ND filter doesn't appear to work in video mode
What ND Filter would you recommend ?
I have the B&W Fpro
Booray Perry Thank you, Love your videos!
Did you get your X100f back from Fuji?
YES! $321 with tax and shipping for a new screen. I'm so happy to have it back. :)
Booray Perry I was curious after the conversation on Photobomb!! Good for you...
Aleluia !!!
If I understand correctly the electronic shutter has no use at all. I do not use it anyway
Probably it's best use is that it is completely silent which would be a bonus on any other camera. But because this camera is practically silent anyway...
I already stopped at "you shutter speed wont go as high as pro cameras"
Its a 35mm camera.. never used a hight shutterspeed than that when doing streetphotography. Also an f2 aperture at 35mm is enough 🤣
I agree that f2 is pretty good but the 1/1000 top shutter speed is a little low and having that built-in neutral density filter really comes in handy. I use it all the time.
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