Review: Korg DS-10 Analog Synth Emulator for Nintendo DS

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 3 года назад +35

    More than a decade later, I've just found a copy of this kicking around in a box my brother gave me, and this is pretty much the only video that I've found that gave me a good overview of what the hell I'm doing with it. Awesome discovery! Thanks for the vid.

    • @ARCSYS4049
      @ARCSYS4049 2 года назад

      Look up Anthony Seeha here on RUclips.

  • @usdjxavi
    @usdjxavi 7 лет назад +85

    this was before its time, amazing

    • @musional410
      @musional410 7 лет назад +7

      i have this program on my nds fat xD, totally amazing

    • @letsgetto1millwithoutvids
      @letsgetto1millwithoutvids 5 лет назад +1

      yep I remember having a DS when I was younger than never remembered this coming out and now that I like making music I ordered one of these game cards

    • @nickfatsis9607
      @nickfatsis9607 5 лет назад +1

      How do you export the music?

    • @notrealy180217
      @notrealy180217 4 года назад

      I wouldnt say it was ahead of its time considering that VSTs in 2008 were about just as impressive as they are in 2021, but making it run on a DS is impressive. These synths and drums are very basic, though. It seems like something people can write chiptunes on easily.

  • @flare242
    @flare242 10 лет назад +21

    Aaaahhh... 2008. Korg DS-10, Technics headphones and fiddling with knobs, slides and steps and beats. And the wiring! Ooooh the wiring...

  • @dmosey604
    @dmosey604 13 лет назад +5

    Thank you for doing such a good job reviewing this and going over all the features/workflow. You totally answered all my questions about it.

  • @LuckyButtonPusher
    @LuckyButtonPusher 14 лет назад +4

    Thank you for the great review! I became curious, bought the Korg DS-10 and had been happy with it for weeks. But soon the lack of memory (only 16 Patterns to save per Song) was a little problem.
    So I am using now additionally the DSiWare "Rytmik".
    (it's the european version; USA and Japan are coming soon)
    For me it's besides the Korg DS-10 PLUS an enrichment in the DSi-Music-Software-Collection.

  • @user-ie9bi9uz8o
    @user-ie9bi9uz8o 11 лет назад +8

    Kick ass review man. Seriously, well done and very informative.

  • @gaving321
    @gaving321 Год назад +5

    I’ve just recently found korg on switch, this seems to have better features to adjust sounds than that does , good vid

  • @PrinceLX
    @PrinceLX 9 лет назад +7

    Love the synth line for 'Stripped', great taste ;)

  • @doktorhulk
    @doktorhulk 15 лет назад +4

    very useful review. thanks. I've got the DS10 myself. despite the mentioned limitations it's great fun, and linking it up with friends machines is great for small gigs too. looking forward to the dsi :-) and the ds10+.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад

    I routed the MG Triangle Out (an LFO) to Pitch In. If it isn't working, check the depth on the Pitch In. If it's in the middle, that means zero. Turning it to the left or right applies negative or positive modulation.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад

    There are step sequencers for the 2 monosynths, plus for the drum machine.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  14 лет назад +1

    @TellTaleLie - Sure - you just use a 1/8th inch stereo audio cable, and plug it into your PC or laptop.

  • @MariaCalfaDePaul
    @MariaCalfaDePaul 10 лет назад +1

    loved your review and your playing. You make the sound editing look so easy!! I have been playing around with it for a week and I've come up with some cool sounds but it's been hit or miss...guess I should read up on synthesis....lots of fun though...I LOVE it in fact...thanks for the humorous and educational review!!

  • @chimneychap5142
    @chimneychap5142 6 лет назад +5

    If someone is interested in this but doesn't want to produce music on a DS, this comes pretty close to a really nice mobile DAW called Caustic which has a built in modular synth. Both the free and full version are the same aside from exporting, and you can download and run the full version for free on a PC.

  • @squeakD
    @squeakD 15 лет назад +2

    This would be a good and very cost effective introduction into synthesis. You could easily learn the basics on this music app for the DS. I'd suggest buying the more recent version coming out called the DS-10-Plus.

  • @simondotwatts
    @simondotwatts 15 лет назад

    Best review that I have managed to find. Thanks.
    I hope you do the same great job reviewing the Plus version on the dsi

  • @newwave89
    @newwave89 15 лет назад

    Thanks for this comment. It answered the question I was going to ask as to whether this teaches you the basics of using a synth because I was thinking about buying a vintage synth...

  • @rars0n
    @rars0n 4 года назад +1

    Definitely agree with your evaluation of this. If you're at all interested in music creation, especially semi-modular synthesis, and you have a DS, it's a no-brainer. They're a little harder to find now but still plenty of copies out there. One thing to note is that if you have a DSi, there's Korg DS-10+ which is basically the same cart, but about twice as powerful (so you can have more instruments and longer songs).
    I took DS-10 with me when I went on vacation for a week at the beach back in 2013. I ended up spending most of my time just making songs with it. It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot just by designing new sounds. DS-10 is a great introduction to synthesis if you're not that familiar.
    One thing I noticed you didn't mention was that, thanks to the drum samples being created by what is essentially a slightly limited third synth engine, you can use one or more of the drum samples as extra voices. I did that in one of the songs I created, making a kick, snare, and closed hat, while using the fourth as a third synth voice. It's amazing how powerful and flexible the software is, and like you said, it sounds better than it has any right to.
    Here are the three "finished" songs I created while on vacation (I started 3 more but never finished them): soundcloud.com/rarson/sets/ds-10-tracks
    I recorded them from the DS straight to the line-in on my computer, and other than a fade-out in the second track, and possibly some normalization, it's just the raw DS sound.
    This is a really fun but capable tool that is worth playing with if only for the immediacy and simplicity of using it. There are no physical cables or wires to route, no computer connection, no external sequencer required, just pick it up and go. Its limitations can be slightly annoying but I also find them creatively inspiring, forcing some out-of-the-box thinking to come up with new ways to utilize what is available.
    While I have had quite a few synths both before and after buying DS-10, I will always keep it and my old DS around, as it's still a useful piece of software. And one of these days, I will buy a DSi and finally open my still shrink-wrapped copy of DS-10+!

    • @phabeondominguez5971
      @phabeondominguez5971 2 года назад +2

      It's been a whole year, where you at with all this now? I'm thinking of getting this just to mess around and maybe actually learn, or should I get the Plus version of the game instead?

    • @phabeondominguez5971
      @phabeondominguez5971 2 года назад +1

      Also well written review and I'ma peep your tracks now as well

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n 2 года назад +2

      @@phabeondominguez5971 I still haven't gotten my hands on a DSi yet, so I haven't used the Plus cart yet. I would get the Plus cart if you have a DSi, there's really no reason not to get that one as it's the same thing but better.
      You can kind of hear it in my songs, especially if you know how the songs are created in the DS-10 sequencer, there are only 16 patterns to work with that you can switch around and I forget how many total pattern changes, but most songs work out to be about 2 and a half minutes long depending on what BPM you use. You can get creative and use a half-time BPM to stretch the patterns out longer, but this means you have to do something to make the patterns more interesting. If you want to do a lot of rapid notes like I tend to do, you won't be able to do that with a slow BPM.
      You can tweak and completely change the patch settings between patterns. So for instance, if I have synth A patched for a certain sound in pattern 1, I can completely change the patch for synth A in pattern 2. Along with this, there are some automation steps you can use within the patterns, like note length and the XY Kaos-pad style control, so there's a lot of tweaking that can be done to make sounds that might seem impossible to create at first.
      DS-10+ includes two of everything, so there's more patterns available and longer songs are possible. I believe there are also a few additional upgrades over the base cart that I can't recall, all of this made possible because the DSi uses a more powerful processor than the DS.
      IMO these are definitely worth playing around with for the price of a cart, even if you don't get too deep into it. There are lots of better DS-10 tracks out there than mine, too, which can give you an idea of the crazy stuff these things are capable of. If you have multiple DSes (and carts) you can link them together and play them in real time.
      An alternative would be something like a free VST you could play with on a PC, but IMO this is a less appealing option for newer users. Lots of VSTs sound great but can be daunting for someone first starting out to figure out their way around. The DS-10 on the other hand provides a pretty intuitive interface. After 10 minutes or so, you get used to the navigation and breaking things up into different screens makes it a lot easier to know what you're doing on each one. You get to figure out how create various sounds using something pretty close to the classic MS-10/20 interface, and how patching and stuff works. It's a great way to learn some basics and some new tricks, and have a whole lot of fun making music.

    • @phabeondominguez5971
      @phabeondominguez5971 2 года назад +2

      @@rars0n holy smokes, this is INSANE, this is literally the sort of feedback I was hoping to get. Yiubwent above and beyond with it and I completely SOLD!! I will definitely pick up PLUS version, but just need to make sure my Gameboys are DSi's first. Again, thank you, SPOT ON with your reply and I am sold after reading it, sounds like this is exactly what I want/need. A clean, simple way into music making.. THANK YOU

  • @wildman00sax
    @wildman00sax 16 лет назад

    Very nice! Loving the sweet beats and jams.
    Oh, they sell the KORG DS-10 in the USA now.
    I feel like I need one now to make music with.

  • @hurricanefist
    @hurricanefist 15 лет назад

    Great review. I love the Depeche Mode bit. I'm glad you told us the song it was from or I would have gone mad and immediately spent the next few minutes searching.

  • @blave549
    @blave549 15 лет назад

    Outstanding review - tanks for taking the time to put it together; looks Very Pro.
    I saw this game at Fry's in Campbell, CA yesterday for $25 on sale. Might have to pick it up - duh.

  • @bigdhav
    @bigdhav 10 лет назад +14

    3:45 Portal much?

  • @geezerdk
    @geezerdk 11 лет назад +2

    Great review, I own Korg on DS and your video made it all seem much more simple (I'm not a musician, just a nerd!)

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад

    I used the headphone output on the DS-10 for the soundtrack, and an external microphone for the narration.

  • @cwxdaf152
    @cwxdaf152 3 года назад +1

    I've only heard of this today and it's insane. I never knew. I might have nightmares about not knowing.

  • @warrengonline
    @warrengonline 15 лет назад

    I'm getting this tomorrow for making the sound track for a game I'm working on on the iPhone. AWESOME review man. I have eJay (Dance2, HipHip, Kinetic and now Garageband. This is AWESOME in my pocket and when I have time no matter where I am. THANKs!

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK 15 лет назад

    most in-depth review out there. good going!

  • @vertig2k
    @vertig2k 5 лет назад

    Thanks to your video I bought the Korg DS10 and a Nintendo DSi. Thank you.

  • @ChrisLeeW00
    @ChrisLeeW00 10 лет назад +15

    Is this channel still active? I'd like to see what you think of the new DSN-12 for 3DS. I am just so amazed by what it can do, even if there are a few changes I would like (such as displaying absolute values of knob positions so I know how many cents VCO2 is at, more than just 16 steps in the Kaoss sequencer, etc).

  • @formdissolve
    @formdissolve 15 лет назад

    Thanks for taking the time to review this.

  • @dandykaufman2
    @dandykaufman2 14 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this. Also, your voice is amazing.

  • @reaper4255
    @reaper4255 15 лет назад

    They're releasing a new Korg DS-10 + this October in the states.
    It takes advantage of the DSi's stronger processor etc.
    It allows for 4 analog synths instead of 2. 8 drum tracks instead of 4.
    Add that to the new track count of 12, and you have some serious song tools. New programmable editing also gives it some added flexibility.

  • @chimpspanner
    @chimpspanner 15 лет назад

    Great review! I think this has pretty much sealed the deal for me. I'm either gunna buy it....or hold out for it as a christmas present!

  • @E-53proyect
    @E-53proyect Год назад +1

    I still have that program on my Ds

  • @sts54
    @sts54 16 лет назад

    Great review, hope to see more soon!

  • @hiimtre
    @hiimtre 13 лет назад

    @averoc2012 you can take an 1/8 inch cable, plug it into the ds headphone jack, then plug the other end into the mic jack of your computer, then u can record the ds audio in any recording software

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  14 лет назад

    @LSmith92360 - You'd need to record it to a computer, and then convert the file to an MP3.

  • @kumozumo
    @kumozumo 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just ordered a copy for my birthday :3

  • @GXSCChater
    @GXSCChater 11 лет назад +1

    the PLUS version is fully made for live play or not live play. And on a DSI or 3ds it lets you run two copies at once.

  • @mumblesandmurmurs
    @mumblesandmurmurs 13 лет назад

    Thankyou for such a great review - i could still follow to some extent as a novice.
    I would love a review of the Korg iMS-20 iPad app... that is if you already have an iPad.
    Cheers, keep the good music going!

  • @SkollDrum
    @SkollDrum 14 лет назад

    This program is just awesome !
    You really can do every thing if you take the time !

  • @MiguelStevens
    @MiguelStevens 15 лет назад

    Best review i've seen so far!. thanksalot

  • @TitusSc
    @TitusSc 4 месяца назад +1

    I don’t think I’ve heard a 2008 video from RUclips with better voiceover quality than this one

  • @Brokeninc
    @Brokeninc 3 года назад

    I found mine on eBay, but the version I have is the English version. I had to wait awhile to get a copy because they sell fast or are priced high.

  • @ChaosEmerald85
    @ChaosEmerald85 13 лет назад

    Thanks for the in-depth review, very informative

  • @JasonSpiffy
    @JasonSpiffy 10 лет назад +2

    Great review and funny commentary.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  14 лет назад

    @Atreyumetal1417 -
    This was a review. I wasn't paid by Nintendo to make it - I doubt they'd let me say the negative remarks if this was just an advertisement.

  • @PalmliX
    @PalmliX 14 лет назад

    Really terrific review, very detailed.

  • @StormBurnX
    @StormBurnX 5 лет назад

    amusingly, his final 'minus' was fixed on the DS10+ version, but almost nothing else was changed

  • @omelhordannielarcanjo
    @omelhordannielarcanjo 6 лет назад +26

    there's a story mode? lol

  • @skorpi0wut
    @skorpi0wut 13 лет назад

    The guy who made this synthesiser, Nobuyoshi Sano, is the same guy who composed the Tekken 3 and Ridge Racer soundtracks (with others).

  • @adrian_hook
    @adrian_hook 14 лет назад

    They came out with the KORG DS-10 PLUS which has many added features, and you can have 8 drums rather than 4. :)

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад +1

    The DS-10 doesn't have any tutorial information in it, so you pretty much need to know the basics of sequencing and programming synthesizers.

  • @WoodenToaster
    @WoodenToaster 14 лет назад +3

    What is this? 'For sale and use in Japan onl-' oh sh**

  • @blackcowboymusic
    @blackcowboymusic 15 лет назад

    wow, really informative review. this makes me want to get this now.

  • @AresKrl
    @AresKrl 15 лет назад

    Great review! You have convinced me to buy it!

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy 2 года назад +1

    This thing was great, I spent ages playing with it back in the day. I learned quite a lot just tinkering with it, I remember you could do chords using the drum samples. Nothing on the iPhone ever felt as good, the stylus was so much better than using a fat dumb finger!!

  • @cookiemonster1000100
    @cookiemonster1000100 14 лет назад

    cool! im getting that for my ds in a few days so i wanted a review. so far im definatly getting it!

  • @racefaceec90
    @racefaceec90 7 лет назад +1

    i am not a musician at all but really want a synth to make weird noises with and to try to make some sort of music with. as i just recently bought a 3ds xl and saw that there are a few korg synth programs for it. i will definitely be buying both this and the m1 korg synth as it would be a crime not to tbh. am expecting a lot of head scratching though as to beginning to understand how to use them.
    nice review.

  • @kickformoney
    @kickformoney 15 лет назад

    Excellent review. Gonna pick one up, now.

  • @devinisdie
    @devinisdie 15 лет назад

    great review sir looks pretty dope

  • @Jalalyassine_
    @Jalalyassine_ 3 года назад

    how to upload your project or song?! any way to save and upload as a song ?!

  • @STiELzephyr
    @STiELzephyr 15 лет назад

    Works on both but no doubling features on DS Lite. on both though, it allows you to program muting in the song pattern tracker (for longer songs and more versatie use of the 16 banks) and you can also eedit the synth sounds and mess around while the arrangement plays, which you can only do in one pattern at a time in this version. Site says it came out ten days ago, WHERES MY IMPORT OPTIONS?! :D

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 13 лет назад

    Is there any possible way to connect a MIDI cable to this to use an external controller?

  • @darrensurrey
    @darrensurrey 15 лет назад

    That's a great review. Like your style.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад

    It's "Stripped" by Depeche Mode

  • @grooveclubhouse
    @grooveclubhouse 14 лет назад

    Anyway this can be used In a digital audio workstation like FL Studio as a virtual instrument? probably not but worth a shot.

  • @carlborgen
    @carlborgen 11 лет назад +1

    But i assume the song arrangement isn't the only way to play right? I mean if you'd wanna play clips live and cue them up on the fly, that would work too right?

  • @GXSCChater
    @GXSCChater 12 лет назад

    This video came out 5 years ago. When it was only release in japan.

  • @DoctaFoxXx
    @DoctaFoxXx 15 лет назад

    I believe you're right because the DSi has a beefed up cpu/ram setup which would allow for the double content.

  • @brianh.000
    @brianh.000 4 года назад

    I got this, and later the DS-10+ for even less ($28US!). I wonder if the DS-10+ addressed any of the issues you mentioned. Mostly, it looks like it doubled the available synths and drums (DSi only), and allowed for sync with another DS, allowing up to 8 of these to play together and exchange songs. Wow.

  • @KDMatt
    @KDMatt 14 лет назад

    Props for sequencing Depeche Mode's "Stripped" around the 5:25 mark.

  • @GXSCChater
    @GXSCChater 11 лет назад

    Then the Korg M01 for DS is right up your alley. We are still waiting on the KORGM01D for the 3ds, but it missed its september release for some reason...

  • @bradtwo
    @bradtwo 14 лет назад

    you're a great reviewer... keep it up. I subscribed.

  • @NicklausDeyring
    @NicklausDeyring 13 лет назад

    Fantastic review.

  • @GXSCChater
    @GXSCChater 11 лет назад

    it runs on a DSlite and a phat DS, it just that the dual mode will not be available, but you still get to use the new features.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад

    If you're familiar with synthesizers and music software, it's very intuitive and quick to use. I'm not sure how it would be if you don't have that experience; I'd imagine it would be a bit difficult as you'd be trying to learn too many things at once.

  • @tomwinnus
    @tomwinnus 15 лет назад

    Thanks, that was an excellent review from a musician's point of view. Humorous too!

  • @8orbit
    @8orbit 14 лет назад

    Really helpful review, these are down to $15 at used game stores.
    Nice to have a musicians take, I am a computer guy trying to get into making music for fun, and playing with things like milky tracker, nitro tracker and little sound DJ.
    Thanks again for the review!

  • @digitaldan68
    @digitaldan68 15 лет назад

    NOT Japan only. I bought my copy of DS-10 locally and the manual is in English.

  • @DoubleScreen
    @DoubleScreen 14 лет назад

    Hey my korg ds 10 synth isnt workin on my ds. I t just comes up a load of Asian Lettering and i can't do anything. I got it on a torrent site if that makes a difference?

  • @averoc2012
    @averoc2012 13 лет назад

    Is it possible to export tracks or a mix to a computer from the nintendo ds?

  • @Murukku47
    @Murukku47 15 лет назад

    If you record it to your computer with line in or so.

  • @insidesynthesis
    @insidesynthesis  15 лет назад

    That's an interesting interpretation of my comments, and the first time I've seen it.
    I haven't found previous console programs useful. I don't think I was "whining" by saying that the DS-10 is worth a look even if you haven't like previous console based programs.
    I think it's certainly possible to use the DS-10 as a "musical instrument". That's the point here. It could never be a writer's only tool, but it could be used to make original tracks (unlike other programs on consoles).

  • @khalylehagood3222
    @khalylehagood3222 10 лет назад

    This is a great review, and gave me hope that I can make a good drum sound instead of the shit I threw up last night. I've been fortunate enough to buy both the DS10 and the PLUS version for 10 bucks each within a few months.

  • @AnimatedLoopHD
    @AnimatedLoopHD 7 месяцев назад

    Man this thing just sounds good

  • @82613880889
    @82613880889 13 лет назад

    Great review!

  • @squeakD
    @squeakD 16 лет назад

    A pocket DX7 would be killer. Yamaha made something that's literally the hardware version of what the DS-10 does.., it was called the AN200. That would make a perfect DS application. Plus Roland's TR line would be awesome for this. Imagine having a pocket TR-808!

  • @BNtrenching
    @BNtrenching 15 лет назад

    so, when you have made a song, what can you do with it. Can you play it on your computer?

  • @iveno_
    @iveno_ 5 лет назад

    HEY wow this is soo cool, so I wanted to by maybe a korg drum machine but I have a ds. Could I simply just get that and start doing beats on the go?!

    • @insidesynthesis
      @insidesynthesis  5 лет назад

      Yup!
      There’s a later version than the one I reviewed called the DS-10 Plus that’s a bit better.

  • @mushnoodle
    @mushnoodle 16 лет назад

    well he did say at the beginning of the vid that there is about 21 saveslots... so unless you forget to save or throw your ds out of the window of the 7th floor they should be there when you turn it back on :)

  • @fahrigonzo
    @fahrigonzo 14 лет назад

    your reviews are amazing!

  • @CDNChaoZ
    @CDNChaoZ 15 лет назад

    What are your thoughts on the Korg DS-10 Plus which is coming out this month? Do they address your suggestions in any way? Also, how long would you say it takes to get familiarized with the software and what each control does? Seems like a background in sound synthesizers helps a lot.

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK 15 лет назад

    Nice review ( also see mine! ) Do give Electroplankton a chance - there is interesting music to be made with some of the modules that is far from "canned"
    Also the Scales can be quite useful - Kaossilator like, you can come up with interesting melodies

  • @2yugen2
    @2yugen2 13 лет назад

    Great review.

  • @ozzelot3349
    @ozzelot3349 5 месяцев назад

    Looks exciting.

  • @dRichieRealb
    @dRichieRealb 15 лет назад

    Fantastic!!!, thats a real review!! cool!

  • @lars-fenin
    @lars-fenin 5 лет назад

    great little programm for the ds
    to have 2 modular snyths on the go...
    sound is impressive

  • @quetzalcueyat
    @quetzalcueyat 5 лет назад

    I got mine for less than 10$. I obviously have a ds already I bought years ago. They made a updated version for the dsi I believe and the 3ds with a oscilloscope.

  • @buletov
    @buletov 15 лет назад

    This review is great!