Bad Gear - Korg Poly-800 - 80s Throwback Synth

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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Korg Poly-800. Is this often frowned-upon keyboard the ultimate 80s throwback synth?
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  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 3 года назад +67

    Holy crap “$19.95 plus shipping” hit me so hard in the feels

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +5

      Yeah, we're born to feel!

    • @charislinos
      @charislinos 2 года назад

      @@AudioPilz find me one with 29,95 plus shipping and I will take it

  • @krytenfivetwothreep2485
    @krytenfivetwothreep2485 3 года назад +60

    What I need in my life is a playlist of all the Bad Gear songs by themselves. This series has produced some seriously good tunes!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +18

      I usually upload longer versions on Patreon (no plug;)

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 года назад +11

      @@AudioPilz it's hard to make electronic music when you're not plugged in. /dadjoke

    • @TheHatMusic
      @TheHatMusic 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz Well, that's decided then... as soon as payday comes around, I'll be signing up! Your no plug has backfired horribly :)

    • @helisoma
      @helisoma Год назад +1

      i still think he should start a separate youtube channel just with his jams/videos 😎😁

  • @Individual_two
    @Individual_two 3 года назад +107

    I had one of these back in its glory days of the '80's and absolutely loved it. Armed with my Tascam Porta Studio, the Poly 800 provided the atmosphere and my beloved, MiniMoog did the leads and bass. I had a blast! I bet many '80's bedroom producers started with this synth.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +15

      Yeah, it made (somewhat) polyphonic synthesis affordable for the masses

    • @doktorhulk
      @doktorhulk Год назад

      even more ended with that synth ;-)

    • @woiowoiow190
      @woiowoiow190 Год назад +1

      Match made in heaven. I bought the Porta studio as to learn about multitracking and I've made so much with so little. I love it.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar 2 месяца назад

      Wish I d got this to eat better at Uni

  • @suga4all
    @suga4all 3 года назад +46

    3:18
    "...of course needs to be loaded with a Maj7"
    Actually plays an Amin7 😁

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +25

      Music theory has never been a strength of mine

  • @facelessproduction
    @facelessproduction 3 года назад +44

    History: Poly-800s have been used by Orbital, Depeche Mode, Sneaker Pimps, Vangelis, Geoff Downes, Nick Rhodes (Duran Duran), Yesterdays and Jimi Tenor. The Poly-800 is an eight-voice instrument (two more than the Juno series) with 64 memory patches (half of what the Juno-106 offered) and up to 50 editable parameters! Like the Juno, the Poly-800 had one DCO per voice, although it did feature a Double mode in which the oscillators could be stacked up for a fuller sound and only four voices of polyphony. The analog filter is a 24dB/oct low-pass which is shared by all voices (the Juno has separate filter chips for each voice). There's also a stereo chorus effect.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +9

      ...aaaaaand JMJ!!!

    • @Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
      @Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 3 года назад +2

      And don't forget current greats who give a nod to the past, like Drab Majesty. They still tour with one. Bless them.

    • @adamrobinson8620
      @adamrobinson8620 2 года назад +2

      I'm not sure what other tech differences there were, but the Juno had much richer sounds back in the day.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar 2 месяца назад

      I doubt Nick Rhodes used it

    • @rjakiel73
      @rjakiel73 2 месяца назад

      Do the MoogSlayer mod and filter mod and you get instantly accessible resonance and cutoff as well as adding a 12db that can be toggled between 12db and 24db liven with just a switch. You can get REALLY cool sh*t with the upcoming Atomahawk832 mod.

  • @PakaTheDog
    @PakaTheDog 2 года назад +14

    Korg Poly 800, a Yamaha DX9 and later an Ensoniq Mirage. Those were my keys back in 1986. They complimented each other nicely. Memories...😎

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад +1

      Great 80s setup!!! You must have been the coolest person around!!!

  • @artisan002
    @artisan002 3 года назад +18

    Heh. I still remember a high school talent show from around 1987, when a student band pulled off Rush's Tom Sawyer with one of these. Surprisingly close sounding to the original filter sweep, given the conditions.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      Interesting, haven't listened to the song for ages

    • @artisan002
      @artisan002 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz I don't tend to seek it out, but I will listen to it from time to time. But, I always end up thinking about that school performance, just because they got so much closer than I could have possibly expected.

  • @SendyTheEndless
    @SendyTheEndless 3 года назад +24

    I always liked the sound of those steppy sawtooths made from phase-aligned square harmonics. Gives a slight fuzzy quality to them!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Agreed! Very unique sound!

  • @boingpoumtchak
    @boingpoumtchak 3 года назад +8

    My first synth 🥲 An uncle lent it to me for 2 months. 20 years ago exactly. Will never forget it 😍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Why did you give it back? ;)

    • @boingpoumtchak
      @boingpoumtchak 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz i had no choice 😄. But few years ago i bought the « desktop version » of it, which has some extras (but don’t remember which ones). Unfortunately the mojo was gone, not so impressed any more and sold it pretty fast 🙂. If i remember well, you can add a mod (hawk?) to be able to tweak the parameters from a midi box or computer (with a maxforlive or ctrlr interface for example). But i had no energy to do it due to its limited sound…

  • @davidhayes8883
    @davidhayes8883 3 года назад +59

    Without this piece of 'bad gear' we would not have the sound of Techno! Listen to Juan Atkins and the Belleville Three. Keep up the good work you are edutaining a whole generation who have only grown up 'in the box'.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +5

      Thank you!!!

    • @ringtangting
      @ringtangting 3 года назад +2

      Any albums or tracks where the Poly800 can be heard that you would recommend?

    • @davidhayes8883
      @davidhayes8883 3 года назад +4

      @@ringtangting Cybotron - Clear

    • @ringtangting
      @ringtangting 3 года назад +1

      @@davidhayes8883 Huh, never realized or thought about an poly800 being used in that one. Will have to give it a spin to hear what you mean. I know the 800 has been used for techno/electro stuff, but I never heard it as such.

    • @NTRSN-Archive
      @NTRSN-Archive 3 года назад +3

      another who Atkins used is the Korg 707 .

  • @micahmachines
    @micahmachines 3 года назад +12

    That polyrhthmic sequence section was tight. You've just inspired me to get my soldering iron out again

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 3 года назад +9

    I like that they leaned into the fact that they're using a 7 segment display, and made their legends in the same "font"

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      I think that stuff was pretty hip back then

    • @-VCO-
      @-VCO- 3 года назад +4

      7-segment displays looked pretty "futuristic" back then. Nobody seemed to realize that the the future would be in HD.

  • @daionsavage
    @daionsavage 3 года назад +22

    Ah, the memories. I still have mine in the wardrobe. Won’t sell it to anyone out of fear that my karma rating will drop to hell!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +8

      Maybe make some music with it? ;)

    • @scottcupp8129
      @scottcupp8129 3 года назад +1

      Nice man! I still have a mint Poly 61 sitting on its own stand in my studio room at home. I use it quite a bit actually. I have a Poly 6 too. I'd like to get a Poly 800 though. Also want to get another DW8000

    • @Aetila
      @Aetila 3 года назад +3

      @@AudioPilz
      It's more rewarding to COLLECT synths and watch them. :-)

    • @sebp400
      @sebp400 3 года назад +1

      I saw ''karma'' and I thought you were talking about the Korg Karma..

  • @gemfire.mp3
    @gemfire.mp3 3 года назад +8

    I bought my Poly 800 mk II a few months ago and can't get enough of that 80's cheese ❤

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Cheese for days!!!

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 года назад

      Which flavour of cheese though? Limburger or havarti? If it's the former, that's pretty damn cheesy. If it's the latter it's only mildly so.

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines10 3 года назад +4

    Another high quality Bad Gear. You made it sound good. Thanks for doing the work.

  • @GL88888
    @GL88888 2 года назад +3

    I want one now! Loved that 80’s synthwave vibe! Brilliant review…. And the video editing is so good!

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 3 года назад +3

    Extra juicy episode this week. Got some very distinctive sounds there. Video editing off the charts as usual. 🙌🏼

  • @LuckyFlesh
    @LuckyFlesh 3 года назад +8

    Excellent video.
    This was my very first synth, so I absolutely loved it. Even with it's limitations, warts and all.. it was still a "real" synthesizer.
    I also think some folks today judge the sound more harshly because they just hear the machine alone, not the way many of us actually used it (ran through any and every cheap guitar effects pedal we could scrounge up).

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yeah, people were processing the hell out of these things back then

  • @Pheonix0114
    @Pheonix0114 3 года назад +3

    Your ending jam names just keep getting better!

  • @Old_Man_Jay
    @Old_Man_Jay 3 года назад +2

    Dood, that minimalist beat you made half way into the video was fire! Kinda had an FM synth/Mega drive sound to it. Felt like it could be an awesome track to an amazing game. I seriously replayed that part of the video about 10 times! You got mad slilllz!

  • @chriswareham
    @chriswareham 3 года назад +4

    I had the rarer version in classy "turd brown" case and reversed key colours. It's long gone, but I came across the same Korg branded patch tape that you showed when I was in my attic a few weeks ago. I recall having great fun with my Poly 800 combined with an Roland Alpha Juno, Roland MC-202 and Korg KPR-77 drum machine, sequenced or synced from a Roland MC-300. Bizarre to think that with the exception of the MC-300 they're all highly desirable bits of kit now!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Yeah, the MC-300 is indeed fear-inducing

    • @chriswareham
      @chriswareham 3 года назад +3

      @@AudioPilz The beige MC series (that a drummer once confused with a fax machine - true story 😯) were actually quite easy to use. Linear rather than pattern based though. Now the Yamaha QX1, as recently seen on Espen Kraft's channel, that's the one to fear!

  • @dustincassidy
    @dustincassidy 3 года назад +22

    Yes dude! I’ve got one of these. There is no other synth as perfectly “janky” or “bad” as this one. Awesome filter too!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +6

      "Janky" hits the nail on the head!

    • @dustincassidy
      @dustincassidy 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz yeah that’s the first word that comes to mind for this thing. Great for low production cold wave type music too.

  • @r5tony67
    @r5tony67 3 года назад +1

    You have mastered your video format! It amazes me every time!

  • @georgewilson2865
    @georgewilson2865 3 года назад +1

    Love your videos!!! Your synth of humor is fantastic.

  • @danieklerr
    @danieklerr 3 года назад +5

    I've owned a dozen or so Poly 800's (and Mk2's and EX800's) over the decades, most of which were picked up for around $200 USD. Every single time I've sold one, I've regretted it within a week. It's an easy go-to for cheesy brass and thin strings, can be thickened up for a decent synth bass and has a brilliant chorus. It's hard for me to fathom the prices these are going for now, but I understand why. Great video, as always!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! The chorus is indeed great!

  • @profpep
    @profpep 3 года назад +4

    The ace mod for this is the Hawk-800. Rewritten firmware, fixes the MIDI, more patch storage without a battery, and upgrades the sequencer . Put one in the desktop version for a friend last year. Made a big difference.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Yeah, only heard good things about that one

    • @nictrax
      @nictrax Год назад

      How easy is it to install? I have the EX-800

  • @djlocodoc
    @djlocodoc 3 года назад +2

    It's not Friday until Bad gear videos hit my feed. Love those genres... perfection

  • @respectfulremastersbymetal8336
    @respectfulremastersbymetal8336 2 года назад

    Been watching a bunch of your vids lately and I'm consistently impressed by the tracks you make to demo the synths. But, for whatever reason, the ones in this video really jammed hard for me. So good!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @michaelkeefer4293
    @michaelkeefer4293 3 года назад +4

    I had a Poly-800 for a while back in the late 80s, I picked it up used for really cheap. I thought it was a pretty decent sounding synth at the time, and yes that chorus was great! Pretty straight forward and fairly easy to program, unlike the Yamaha DX7 and DX21 synths that I was used to. Great review! I look forward to your videos every Friday! Keep it up!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @tannerin
    @tannerin 3 года назад +12

    would love to see casio’s cz-101 featured on here, it’s the kind of chintzy budget synth people will probably never come around on but it really sounds like nothing else

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      Thanks for the suggestion! Prices for these have already reached the DANGER ZONE!!!

    • @liudas5377
      @liudas5377 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz Holy smokes! Just checked eBay. Wow!! I have one.

    • @Gainn
      @Gainn 3 года назад

      Just picked up a (95% working but cosmetically trashed) CZ-101 and an abused Ensoniq SQ 80 (someone *painted* the damn thing neon green) so I can do some refurbs..
      Even in a state that looks like Hulk used them as toothpicks people still want a pile of cash.

    • @oldschoolchartist
      @oldschoolchartist 2 года назад +1

      The CZ-101 had a big brother with the same engine. I had BOTH of them at one time. What a strange little bird the CZ was. Sadly, I blew mine up with a reversed polarity power supply and that was the end of it. Those strange FM tones were like nothing any other synth was producing at the time... as I recall. I used to layer those high 'buzzy' sounds in an octave or two above a richer and fatter Roland patch. Made for some very cool layered sounds.

  • @EannaButler
    @EannaButler 3 года назад +1

    I'm so pleased you drew the love from this synth 👍👍
    Really opens up with mods installed. And a nice effects processor after it.

  • @freddegeus5484
    @freddegeus5484 3 года назад +1

    Your videos bring me great joy!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thank you! Happy to hear that!

  • @DmitryPuffin
    @DmitryPuffin 3 года назад +3

    Wow, last jam was very similar to modern stuff called Wave, but with 80s flavour. Awesome video, as usual! 🔥

  • @marcoabyss
    @marcoabyss 3 года назад +19

    this synth is as old as me. i'm starting to feel vintage :D
    PS $19.99 Plus Shipping Retro Kitsch Vienna Cloud Rap Instrumental 80s Trap Ballad is exactly the vaporwave spin-off the world needs

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +3

      Super vintage! I'm even older;)

    • @marcoabyss
      @marcoabyss 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz i like to think of as as becoming classics in our own rights :)

    • @Magnus_Loov
      @Magnus_Loov 3 года назад +1

      Not that old. I actually bought one used in 1990. For about $100 (800 Swedish Crowns, SEK)i got the Korg Mono/Poly AND the Poly-800 from a friend who thought they were more or less doorstops that nobody would buy... Of course I sold them a year or so later(Looking at the prices for the Mono/Poly now with great regret).

  • @ErikHawk
    @ErikHawk 3 года назад +1

    Wow, you really made the Poly-800 shine! You rocked the music in this video, killer job!

  • @Linixion
    @Linixion Год назад +2

    A friend let me borrow (indefinitely) his Korg Poly 800x and I loved messing around with it. On my next project I plan on using it liberally.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Год назад

      That's very kind of him! Very usable tones!

  • @Alleroc
    @Alleroc 3 года назад +3

    I've always loved the way that organ styled oscillators sound. One day when I get around to building out a hardware synth, that's the style I will be going for. I made one a few years back in puredata, and I still use it to this day.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Yeah, totally refreshing!

  • @raistaparta
    @raistaparta 3 года назад +8

    Quick tip for playing monophonic bass sounds with the Poly-800: use the chord mode, set it to a single note instead of a chord, set envelope to retrigger.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Interesting technique!

    • @raistaparta
      @raistaparta 3 года назад +2

      @@AudioPilz used it for years playing a Poly-800 as bass keys in a band. I found that it gave the basses a lot more punch, somehow resetting the waves starting point. Otherwise I'd often lose some of the low end due to phase issues between oscillators.

  • @JoeWisniewski
    @JoeWisniewski 2 года назад +1

    Love the editing in these!

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic 3 года назад +2

    Ah, the joys of holding an incremental parameter up/down button, so musical. 😀
    Still want one though.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      I've yet to find out the correct tempo for a full filter sweep in four bars;)

  • @janne-seta
    @janne-seta 3 года назад +28

    My Ableton still keeps crashing. They say consistency is a good thing, but I'm not so sure in this case

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      I have no idea what happened...

    • @scottcupp8129
      @scottcupp8129 3 года назад +2

      I stick with Cubase. I am at Cubase 11 Pro now

    • @scottcupp8129
      @scottcupp8129 3 года назад +1

      However, I recorded some amazing stuff with ableton.

  • @strelokknoize
    @strelokknoize 3 года назад +3

    This fella was the main reason why I became a huge fan of digital synthesizers. :D

  • @aloislang-rousseau3115
    @aloislang-rousseau3115 2 года назад +1

    This video made me buy a Poly-800, I really like the sound, and needed to have a keyboard at home when my DSI's in the rehersal room. Thank you ! :)

  • @robertbmxpa
    @robertbmxpa 3 года назад +1

    I feel like this synth would have looked nice next to that DDM-110. Your videos are so cool, always a welcome pick-me-up. Thanks!

  • @OscillatorCollective
    @OscillatorCollective 2 года назад +3

    One of my personal favorites…80s freestyle was my life…

  • @JoshIsMakingMusic
    @JoshIsMakingMusic 3 года назад +3

    It's pretty amazing seeing the features that nowadays are standard but used to be considered unusual in a cheaper synth. Fun jams with it, too!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yeah, that thing was a game changer back then

    • @MichaelCoombes776
      @MichaelCoombes776 2 года назад +1

      And then there's aftertouch which has gone in the other direction.

  • @Justindl26
    @Justindl26 3 года назад +1

    I look forward to these every Friday! Big up man! Keep up the good work 🙂

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @Justindl26
      @Justindl26 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz thank you mate! I was just using software but got so bored. Watched a video of a chap called Pete cannon who is using old Amiga s and Ataris and vintage hardware. Both him and yourself have inspired me. A maxed out credit card and a heap of vintage synths later and a moaning Mrs. Have you ever seen any of his stuff on here? He did a great sound on sound interview

    • @Justindl26
      @Justindl26 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/IDn7ZDcx9w0/видео.html

  • @yamilpicon6998
    @yamilpicon6998 Год назад +2

    What i love about your vids it's that there are a little but awesome piece of art! :3

  • @soepil
    @soepil 3 года назад +3

    Great video! I would consider the Poly-800 as an absolute classic synth. Many people had one in the 80s. Never owned one myself, though.

  • @framzoid
    @framzoid 3 года назад +3

    I used it for some early 90's NIN / Ministry kind of things as that bass can erupt so much dirt but still shake the foundation. I still have it (and all the programming cassettes) although it sits in the closet.I had NO idea they were in vogue again.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Yeah, total comeback

  • @randomaztec2208
    @randomaztec2208 3 года назад +1

    Content just getting better and better

  • @lairdkilbarchan
    @lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад +2

    You're gradually picking your way through my entire synth collection. Please cease and desist. 😱

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      You have no evidence😅 😅 😅

  • @koraykumru1295
    @koraykumru1295 2 года назад +3

    I miss my poly 800. It had some cool sounds. The filters didn't go very fast or anything but it was super light and portable.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      Yeah, I like that one too!

  • @Yuzuki1337
    @Yuzuki1337 3 года назад +22

    Another Friday, another Bad Gear episode!
    Your bookshelf seems off, did you sort it or something? :o
    Edit: Holy moly this thing sounds great in your jams! Love the funky bassline of the first one!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! Bookshelf should be in top shape;)

  • @dyecaster9341
    @dyecaster9341 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for yet another great video, mate.
    👌

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @ThomasLoyd
    @ThomasLoyd 3 года назад +2

    I remember looking at this particular synth back in the early 80s at one of my favorite music stores in Pirmasens when I lived in Germany! It was cool when I first saw it but I wasn't big into synths back in the day. BASS is my jam, but I am a closet-synth-nerd, which is why I enjoy this channel so much!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! I'm a bassist and former closet-synth-nerd too;)

  • @rickimarvel4080
    @rickimarvel4080 3 года назад +3

    Yesss, I like this one. Wow! The price surge. I once worked in a bad gear haven music store and we had 5 of these leftover from the 80s 😆. I like how they sound.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Yeah, the prices are kinda crazy

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 года назад +1

      That sounds like an awesome job, how did you resist not constantly throwing weird jams with all the abandoned gear? (Or did you not? ;P)

    • @rickimarvel4080
      @rickimarvel4080 3 года назад +1

      @@Yuzuki1337 yes, I 100% did! Unfortunately couldn't just set up a jam because of the elderly strict boss. It would've been something like, if I were to use all Korg, Super Percussion, Poly-800, Super Section, MR-16. Gosh the MR-16 was silly.

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 года назад +1

      @@rickimarvel4080 I just looked them up since they were all before I was born but that MR-16 looks like Korg already made a janky precursor to the Volcas in the 80s! I'm kinda sad that I only witnessed the tail end of these times, I bet hitting up thrift, record and music stores for weird gear and new music must've been a blast!
      Thanks for sharing your story! :)

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 3 года назад +1

      @@Yuzuki1337 hitting the record store every couple of days to check if a new shipment was in, going thru it on the 1200s is something i definietly wouldnt want to have missed.

  • @jbmcb
    @jbmcb 3 года назад +6

    Holy crap you're covering *every* piece of gear I own. I challenge you to do a Casio CZ next (I have a 5000) though I think a lot of people actually like them.

    • @jibjamjangles
      @jibjamjangles 3 года назад

      Absolutely love mine

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      Nothing personal ;) Casio CZ will happen!

  • @OldPeepaw
    @OldPeepaw 2 года назад +1

    this is the suggested video after any Poly800 video. You've accomplished something here!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      Wow, didn't know that! Nice! Thanks for posting!

  • @null_state
    @null_state 3 года назад +1

    Oh man, the jam at 6:20 just brought me back to Top Gear on the Genesis

  • @OverDriveOnline7921
    @OverDriveOnline7921 Год назад +3

    This reminded me of my old Korg DW-6000, which was probably the next one up from the Poly 800 with the DW-8000 being the top of the line. One thing I learned via a book borrowed from the college library, I discovered the DW’s oscillators and envelopes could be directly manipulated over system exclusive commands.
    Creating a MIDI mixer map in Cubase (remember those?) I made a map that could sweep the waveforms and other synth madness from the safely of my Atari ST. Sadly I don’t have the Korg anymore but that may well be a good piece of kit for people to look for if they want a little more sound flexibility.
    Another thing is the Yamaha PSS680, now with a piece of editing software (again on the Atari ST), this has some hidden editing features. The software for this can be found on the Atari Music Network pages, which many years ago I used to own and run.

  • @uly1981
    @uly1981 3 года назад +5

    Having never heard a Poly-800 before i went from the expected "cult synth that behringer is making a clone of" to "this sounds & looks like a casio toy keyboard" pretty quickly during this video, despite your great demo tracks

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      The UI would certainly be quite offputting on a contemporary synth

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 года назад +2

      I wouldn't say that's accurate despite its appearance. There's a decent amount to the guts of this synth that can churn out great sounds. The problem is the interface as is without mods is uninspiring.
      The mods really do bring it to life and rectify a lot of the shortcuts Korg took due to budget constraints or due to the lack of competent technology at the time. For instance, the shitty main chip they used to power it.

  • @kyleschwake5021
    @kyleschwake5021 3 года назад +2

    These videos you make are educational, hilarious, and full of good music. 🤙😎🤙

  • @lelandchapman1
    @lelandchapman1 3 года назад +1

    I love your stuff so very much! Keep it up!

  • @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi
    @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi 3 года назад +5

    You should make a Spotify for these songs. They are sick. Sometimes I’ll comeback to a video just to hear your compositions. I especially love 6:14 on this video. Your melodies and chords are so good.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      Thanks! There are extended jams and longer edits on Patreon (no plug;)

    • @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi
      @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz Awesome. Thank you!

  • @greatheightsu
    @greatheightsu 3 года назад +4

    Hey AudioPilz, it must be getting pretty nice out in Austria, eh? Maybe we can get another Bad Gear jam on your rooftop again this summer?
    I imagine it's a pain in the ass, but I loved the last one and you've got a lot new gear since then.
    Also great episode, only a little bit disappointed you didn't slap a guitar strap on there and keytar out though. :P

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! Yeah, Vienna in spring is great! Currently working on the 50k special, stay tuned!

  • @Flat8G
    @Flat8G 3 года назад +1

    Yet another synth I've owned. Man did we hate this one in the 90's! Awesome demo as always!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! Yeah, the hate was strong back then

  • @oceanwatchesclaudejolly1742
    @oceanwatchesclaudejolly1742 Год назад +2

    Great synthesizer i got 2 in my home studio will use them this week they sound so cooool

  • @Arehexes
    @Arehexes 3 года назад +3

    It's Friday, I got my wrap, time to listen to some sweet bad gear.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Arehexes
      @Arehexes 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz Thanks for the fun and informative content.

  • @Kizunaut
    @Kizunaut 3 года назад +6

    Has to be one of the better sounding "bad gear" you've featured on your channel. Big Com Truise vibes.

  • @brianbergmusic5288
    @brianbergmusic5288 3 года назад +1

    I can hear how this keyboard can scratch a certain itch, especially if you are creative with your sound and able to craft music without looking over your shoulder at what you might "be missing/lacking". I can easily see how this plus a decent FM synth plus creativity can get someone's foot into many doors (okay... plus an Amiga for sequencing).
    As a bedroom guitarist, I have most of my cards spent in the guitar world. That being said, I love music and even the "other" tools used to make music. I started off many years ago being interested in synths and keys before I fell in love with the guitar. This world that you have shared with us is valuable and entertaining. Thank you for sharing this world with us. Subbed.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @DrumWild
    @DrumWild Год назад

    In 1984, I borrowed one of these from a fellow Music student in college. He had an Anvil case made for it. I had it for the entire school year. Recorded a few songs, wrote a few things, didn't play it live, and loved it. I did give it back at the end of the year, even though he never asked for it back, not even once.

  •  3 года назад +17

    Been waiting for this episode for way too long. I still don't get why this synth gets so much hate. I have wanted to get one since 2012 and two years ago I finally managed to grab one for around 70 eur. It's beat up, held together by two screws, missing few keys but sounds awesome!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      It certainly isn't the most convenient synth to use but I really like the quirky sound

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 года назад +1

      Make sure you replace the battery since they're prone to leaking and totally screwing the circuit board from the battery acid leaking. This is a very common problem with them easily rectified with a lithium battery.

    • @Markpianist1
      @Markpianist1 3 года назад +2

      @Zdenek Absolutely it is great! I bought one in 1985 new when I was 19! I sold it to get a korg T2. Incredibly awesome synth I should of kept it.
      I still have the T2 but its disk drive went at a point and there was no parts for it. Now the battery that holds the sounds in the bank is gone all the sounds are erased.
      Anyways, I played many iconic songs of that time with the Poly 800 in a band and loved it!!!! Enjoy.
      Maybe I will look for another one. Surprised they are still around.

    • @NullStaticVoid
      @NullStaticVoid 3 года назад

      that is the most anyone should pay for one of these!

    • @NTRSN-Archive
      @NTRSN-Archive 3 года назад

      There is a group musicians who know only one Japanese brand ;)

  • @brucebartlett9989
    @brucebartlett9989 3 года назад +144

    When I started reading about people wanting the Poly-800's "warm, fat sound", that's when I realized the vintage synth craze had reached total insanity. This was my first synth and it was a huge disappointment. No top end, no bottom end, sluggish stepped envelopes, thin plasticy oscillators, and of course paraphonic. Just horrible. On the plus side, every synth I got after this seemed amazing in comparison.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +32

      Yeah, I feel the same about many people's analog mixing consoles;)

    • @DavideCerriGA
      @DavideCerriGA 3 года назад +17

      It makes an ok elicopter sound.

    • @GK-op4oc
      @GK-op4oc 3 года назад +25

      Nah, it wasn't that bad. The Poly800 was one of my first synths, and no, it wasn't as bad as you write. For the low price, it was a collection accessible, entry-level features at a low price in the early days of programmable synths with all of the parameters listed in the panel. I would never buy it as a vintage synth any more than people would buy an iPhone1. But they had their place in time.

    • @nazliuz
      @nazliuz 3 года назад +1

      🤣

    • @awkwardtom
      @awkwardtom 3 года назад +3

      ha ha good point some times you need to have experienced the crap to appreciate something decent >learning curve

  • @filipzo
    @filipzo 3 года назад +2

    At 6:40 I turned up the volume a bit and I was overwhelmed by a wonderful world of basses... love it

  • @LCGdude
    @LCGdude 3 года назад +2

    Bought it, sold it, bought it again! Love it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      The way of the P800;)

  • @AttilaSVK
    @AttilaSVK 3 года назад +3

    I had one in 2007-2008, with a Roland D-10, Yamaha A5000 and an Oberheim Matrix-1000. I remember playing a live cover of Jarre's Oxygene part 8 with the D-10's drum sequencer, the Poly-800's sequencer was triggering the A5000 for bass. The D-10's keyboard was triggering the D-10, with the Warm Strings preset, and the Poly-800's keyboard was triggering the Matrix-1000 for the lead sound. My only problem with the 800 were the slow envelopes, especially the attack: the fastest was still way too slow. Otherwise I quite liked it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Yeah, the envelopes are definitely on the slow side

  • @m4rs435
    @m4rs435 3 года назад +4

    Hearing "Welcome to bad gear" every single Friday has to have some adverse effects on my psyche

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Scientific research proved that it heals the nation

  • @cyphercracker
    @cyphercracker Год назад +1

    I always go back to this upload. Honestly, all gear I got, the poly800 is closest to my heart.. and... It fits your style of music and should be in your battleship. It's damn raw ;)

  • @_P_M_
    @_P_M_ 3 года назад +1

    In 83, the music salesman showed me the Poly 600 and the 800 (the affordable synth). I really wanted one but couldn't afford it. I bought a cheap drumset in the paper and became a drummer for the next 25 years.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      There's always a need for good drummers;)

  • @TheRepublicOfJohn
    @TheRepublicOfJohn 3 года назад +18

    The "leftover pizza" of synths. Cold, cheesy, greasy, and though there may be some meat on it, it's mostly cheap pork. But it sure hits the spot!
    I bought one based solely on the Ableton Suite instrument rack preset Polee800 Bells when I realized I was dropping that device onto a MIDI channel for every new project file. Those queasy bells were the soundtrack of my gap-year! Most of those tracks ended up sounding like the demo track towards the end of the video.
    Also I recommend looking into the mod for hands-on adjustments of the LPF.

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 3 года назад +5

    I actually like the sound. It's not "fat" but it's got a ton of character that reminds me of synthwave

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Agreed, instant throwback!

  • @shapeshifter8986
    @shapeshifter8986 3 года назад +1

    This channel is great for rediscover forgotten gear in the basement

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      May I see your basement, please (sounds kinda creepy coming from an Austrian guy;)

  • @System.10
    @System.10 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video as per usual! :D

  • @torarinvik4920
    @torarinvik4920 3 года назад +30

    This is the type of synth that sounds great when the user knows what he/she is doing. If they don't it sounds, well...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      ...different;)

    • @TheToughBaby
      @TheToughBaby 2 года назад +3

      That's literally every musical instrument though.

  • @OmegaPoint042
    @OmegaPoint042 7 месяцев назад +6

    This synth is on Human League - Don't You Want Me and The Eurythmics - Here Comes The Rain Again. That lead melody on the Weeknd - Blinding Lights is what a Poly 800 sounds like. I still have mine since 1983 and it still fully works like new.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the heads up!!!

    • @ymotechnopopfan
      @ymotechnopopfan 4 месяца назад +2

      Are you really sure? Because Korg Poly 800 was released in 1984 , four years after Human League's "Don't You Want me".

  • @trebleboost7
    @trebleboost7 2 года назад +1

    My 80s gig rig was an ESQ-1 and the Poly-800 and a MIDIVerb II, then added a MIDIDisk for loading sequences/songs. Yeah. Budget. But I spent a lot of time on those machines and programmed them like crazy. I still have tapes! Love the review and content!

  • @McN4styFilth
    @McN4styFilth 3 года назад +2

    I wouldn't know it's Friday without these videos.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Weekdays are so overrated

  • @robbpeppertree
    @robbpeppertree 3 года назад +8

    I think anybody who has ever owned a Korg Poly-800 knew that this episode was coming. It was just a matter of time.
    I owned one from I think 2000 to 2002. I even did the mods to have cutoff and resonance knobs just above the joystick.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Yeah, these mods are essential!

  • @666nacirema666
    @666nacirema666 3 года назад +4

    great synths especially when modded

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Yeah, mod will happen!

  • @petervolz493
    @petervolz493 3 года назад +1

    A Bad Gear episode about my very first synth! Wasn‘t expecting that. Nice!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Not a bad starting point!

  • @vasoskyriakides
    @vasoskyriakides 3 года назад +1

    I love your Karate Kid comparison at the end. Spot on!

  • @SynthAddict
    @SynthAddict 3 года назад +3

    funny it had the same synth mode as the little Casio SK-1 "synthesizer" section with organ footing -
    you made the Poly-800 sound good as usual
    ah you have the vocoder chip to change the DarkStar unit into a vocoder - I have the DarkStar XP2 and it has no vocoding option - it's fine since I have at least 10 things that vocode already :-)
    you should track down an Alesis Metavox vocoder pedal

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! The DS VOCODA really sucks, there's not much you missed;)

    • @SynthAddict
      @SynthAddict 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz good to know, I was always curious and they are rare as hell so who can even try one? :-)
      that name sucks anyway, trying to be hip
      the XP2 is an OK synth but has some special weirdness and it was dirt cheap from a friend

  • @synthgal1090
    @synthgal1090 3 года назад +4

    The entire video my brain was going "I need to hear Zanzibar Breeze on this"

  • @gurragaming4888
    @gurragaming4888 3 года назад +1

    I got excited when I saw one of my favorite synthesizers in the thumbnail. Then I read the title.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      It happens to the best;)

  • @williambrown319
    @williambrown319 3 года назад +2

    Now you're just picking on one of my dream synths

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Nothing personal;)

  • @Chasing_Thoughts
    @Chasing_Thoughts 3 года назад +4

    Please do a ‘bad gear’ episode on the electribe 2 sampler.
    The er-1 and poly 800 sound like an e2s

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +3

      ET 2 will happen!

    • @DoctorNemmo
      @DoctorNemmo 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz I recently found mine next to my night stand covered in dust. Took pictures.

  • @uuuUNUuuu
    @uuuUNUuuu 3 года назад +4

    Besides of the sound (imo dope. Check patch 31 - more 80s that early 90s), Poly800 is p.i.t.s. to work with as a midi device. 1. When it's powered on it's always in omni mode, so it takes messages from all channels and to switch it off you need to do it via CC (sic!). 2. When you forgot to turn off the omni mode and this tries to play all the notes at the same time, memory bank can glitch (happened to me) and you need to restore all the patches via tape interface.
    But I'm very happy to have one :)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Yeah, you have to take it like it is

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 3 года назад +1

      probably worth getting a midi box that can dedicate a port to it and just send it messages from one channel, save setting it every boot.

    • @uuuUNUuuu
      @uuuUNUuuu 3 года назад

      @@mycosys If you could suggest something to buy, I would be very glad.
      Thanks!

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 3 года назад +1

      @@uuuUNUuuu the open source Mutable Instruments MidiPal and all its clones and deriviatives would be one obvious option, theres some multi port options too

    • @uuuUNUuuu
      @uuuUNUuuu 3 года назад +1

      @@mycosys Thanks Mate!

  • @LegendPhase
    @LegendPhase 3 года назад +1

    Good vid as always !!

  • @KNHSynths
    @KNHSynths 3 года назад +2

    The end title is really cool and have a pretty nice retro sound! Really excellent.
    I've got a Poly-800 when it was released and I did not remember it sounds so good (or perhaps we just find now it is sounding good...)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! You have to ask it VERY nicely;)

    • @KNHSynths
      @KNHSynths 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz 🙏👍🙌😉