There are so many incorrect statements in this, for example, the XR GT came out in 1967 not 66. And the A9X never competed against any GTHO’s and the only result a Charger had at Bathurst was 3rd in 1972. Plus, where is the most iconic Aussie muscle car, the GTHO Phase 3?
Welcome to the latest AI technology carefully crafted to totally destroy all accurate memories of Australia's once world beater but now thoroughly destroyed automotive industry. The clowns behind this evil actually hate us & deliberately show wrong images, quote wildly untrue "facts", intentionally mangle our proud history & ruin the minds of younger generations who only use the fool internet to research any topic. This vile machine will absolutely reply to you, pretend to be sorry, promise to remedy & then do no such thing. Aint it just great? Give it another 6 months & it'll tell you just how good Chinese cars are compared to anything ever produced in Australia. Imagine how good it will be when you can take your Chinese car into the drivethrough at Kentucky Fried Kitten?
Okay on RUclips there is a thing that says go live now it's very simple to record yourself with all the correct information and make a video yourself just like I did
Exactly, the fastest car we produced didnt even get a mention and it was the fastest 4 door car in the world for 30 years or so. The Ford Falcon GTHO Phase 3
Well I'm going to add to the comments and state that that was the slant six not a V8! I don't know how the hell it could have gotten that wrong! The slant six is a beast of a block! Those things were light and powerful and very reliable! They were also very tunable and you could and people have done forced induction in the form of centrifugal superchargers and turbo chargers. Regardless of whether or not most of that information is correct I will say that these vehicles are absolutely gorgeous! As an American I have never been to Australia and I am kind of pissed off that more wasn't done with straight sixes in America. The straight six is a very versatile lightweight very durable reliable configuration! Not to say that I am not a fan of all internal combustion engines in all their configurations! I am a big fan of diesels V8 and inline and single cylinder! What can I say I love the classics! So I tip my hat to you in Australia and I say that you have some absolutely gorgeous vehicles and what you did with that straight six in the charger is brilliant! What I wouldn't give for one of those cars! Anyway that is my two cents and light ramble! Autism it's an interesting rollercoaster ride! I think there's a couple of other things but I'm not sure still working on that. I have some ideas but until I get some confirmation from an outside perspective I won't be entirely sure. Don't worry about me I'm all right! I am the happiest that I have ever been in my life it's just I want to know. Because if I know then I can at least explain myself. Honestly I don't mean offense! However I am brutally honest! That's why I had to say something! I couldn't let that slide! I have never had a slant six but that doesn't mean that I don't respect the hell out of them!
I suggest you look at the Australian Ford Barra inline 6 engine for a project. They are starting to take off on the USA (and several other countries) not only very strong but very easy to to tune for incredible power -plenty of examples, here in Australia, of street cars with in excess of 1,000hp. Track examples now are exceeding 2,000hp. There was a factory turbo option which put most V8s to shame. Highest ex-factory specification was 436 hp @ 6000 rpm, 425 lb⋅ft @ 2750 rpm -not bad for 243 cu in! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Barra_engine#Barra_270T_(FG)
maybe he was thinking of a Pacer, Did the AMC Pacer ever have a V8? AMC Pacer - Wikipedia The option package was available only with the 258 cu in (4.2 L) I6 or 304 cu in (5.0 L) V8 engine. "D/L" Package: A more upscale edition, the D/L was available for the entire run of the Pacer production and became the base model in 1978
Wasn't the slant 6. The E49 and E38 chargers were straight upright 6s. In 245ci or 265ci Hemis. The slant 6 was a 225ci in previous povo pack valiants.
I went to New South Wales last month to pick up a 4x4 I'd had rebuilt. While we were there, we visited an elderly relative who has Alzheimer's. He kept asking his son (my second cousin,) "where's me car, son?" And each time he'd get out his phone and show him the last few videos of him sitting in his car which is locked up at his son's house in a purpose built garage behind the house. It's his bright yellow and black A9X Torona, in mint condition, with 45,000km on it. He bought it new and only drove it around the small country town they live in. I had no idea!
a decade or so ago, my cousin bought the first A9X sedan (001) but not long after, he passed away. After a few years his mum sent it to auction and it sold for $350k! The guy who bought it, held onto it for 18 months as an investment, then sent it back to auction where it sold for over $500k!!! Incredible...
The 1971 Ford XY GTHO Phase III was the fastest four-door sedan in the world at the time. It could reach 142 mph (228 km/Hr0 straight from the factory.
Yeah, because really know one built fast 4 drs . They put everything into their 2 dr models . They should've built a 2 dr version Imo. But still an awesome car .
No. The standard (XY) GT was guaranteed to do 144mph straight off the showroom floor.. The HO only really had a tricked up suspension - sway bars basically, but otherwise it wasn't a whole lot different from a standard GT.
The "Hey Charger" ad campaign was hugely successful in promoting the Charger. Whenever one drove by, all the kids would yell Hey Charger and present the Victory finger salute. I know that because I was one of those kids. Around 10yo when the Charger came out.
I hate the Bot narration in so many videos. Pronunciation is often just wrong. Who's ever heard of a "three hundred and two" Ford V8. it's a "three-oh-two". The order of the cars presented is all over the place with some duplication. With the AP6 Valiant, it talks of the V8 but only shows 6-cylinder engine bays. And we have "Barth-hurst" again.
The narrator fails to mention that the Chargers with the triple webbers was both an effort by Aussie and Italian engineers. A 265 Hemi was sent to Italy where the Italian engineers tuned the Webber carbs.
Sorry, I hate to be picky, but there is no mention of the Falcon GTHO PH 3. An under estimated hp claim of 300, but in reality had 380hp, and did I mention that for quite some time, was the worlds fastest 4 foor sedan. You could do a whole video just on that vehicle.
I remember my father got one of the first Monaros out of the factory .. custom leather white interior and a stunning burnt orange body .. as a teenager I would get embarrassed when I was dropped off at school ! It was very showy .. I remember the doors were massive !
@@duncanyourmate2433 Even funnier are all the goombies bleating & moaning in here because the wonky AI fact machine forgot to mention their beloved XA RPO Unicorn barge. It's hilarious these knuckledraggers conveniently forget Brock crunched their RPO dreamturd at Bathurst in '72 with a dinky little 202 XU-1 Torana. They should all be ashamed & stay hiding under their rocks. I can't stop laughing.
That was awesome but not to include the phase 3 GTHO is shameful. THE ultimate Aussie muscle that led the government of the day to put restrictions on car makers & put paid to the release of the phase 4.
The little misinformation here is that in 1972 most new cars in America were built with unleaded gasoline engines and the horsepower took a massive hit as did the performance. There were a lot of Japanese 4 cylinder cars out performing all American muscle cars.
A mate purchased a GT HO Phase III about a month ago. We've been cruising in a few times and it's a head turner. Everywhere we go we see smiles on faces - it's an awesome car.
I'm thankful for my '72 Valiant Charger R/T... It hasn't let me down, and I have driven it countless times between my Tumwater home and the Bay Area... Even doin' shakedowns @Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca!!!
Fifty percent made and full of miss information and other rubbish. Should be taken down. As I spent a lot of time in the high performance industry from 1969 on this production is an embarrassment. One example, The E37 Charger was a good example, we had a customer bring in his charger. He wanted it blue printed, which meant remove the engine R & R and taken to maximum tolerances' it had very serious brake fade issues from new( Trust me I found out the had way) and some tuning issues. After removing the engine and pulling it down we found two main bearing bolts in the sump and two broken rings. The exhaust development on this vehicle and the fact that they could not afford to use the exhaust the race drivers tested and approved. So they had to accept a cheaper compromise. The original test set had six primary pipes and three secondaries with a single outlet, This gave the performance and drivability to genuinely compete with the V8s. I hope they find a contributor who actually knows some of the true history of these vehicles.
Makes you sick, doesn't it? It's deliberate. AI is owned by the same grubs massively invested in big pharma. The more they drive you insane & make you throw up, the more money you spend on sickness.
@@lancetuckey6403 Yeah I was waiting for that too but as we didn't get it in production it wasn't going to appear in a video about what the yanks didn't get
@glennblanchard4193 Only I phase 4 went down the production line and was fitted with a HO compliance plate....it was green . The other 3....all red were standard XA GT falcons pulled from the line and modified to phase 4 specifications..... as for compliance plates I have no idea.. One of the 3 remaining cars was sold in 2018 for over 2 million.
A few people triggered in the comments section. Whilst there may have been a few errors here and there I still think it showcased the cars well and I enjoyed watching it. Cheers.
@@LeonKotze70 It takes a lot of work to produce a video of this length and standard and for someone outside of the country I think it was pretty well put together.
Yeh right, except that it is all AI. Have you ever heard of a "Five Eight" instead of a V8? That just annoys the hell out of me. I might not be 72 but I'm not far behind you and I agree this was interesting but it's not all true. These You Tubers just use AI to get their videos out there and as far as they are concerned it doesn't matter if it's wrong, because that just makes more of us comment and that is all their looking for, comments, because it makes their channel better and creates more of an income for them, and I just got sucked in again. I really wish I had kept my Torana, (and my XW Falcon, hindsight, it's a fine art) even if I could never tune those carby's properly.🤣 I do agree Steve it was nice to watch and it bought back a lot of memories.👍
Thank you for the time and effort to focus on these beautiful vehicles. The Monaro has always been my favourite growing up. Thanks again mate, really appreciate you.
If ya gunna sprout it get it right n pro-nounce the models correctly and tell me the Cobra was the pinnacle of engineering 6 minutes after telling me the A9x dominated 78/79 (79 bathurst by 6 laps ffs! )love all the ozzy muscle Vals, Ford and Let the lion Raw!
So think who killed oz car manufacture ? Joe Fuking Hockey , (we have to subsidise ) well Volkswagen (no one wanted 1946) ,owns RR , an Germany has subsidised Auto industry for Cars an Jobs , but he's alright an fuk us
Peter Brock raced the Big Banger A9X around bathurst and he won the Great race and i have gotten the slot car version the original smoking brand on itself and it's a well done design of the slot car 100% percent perfect at all times
The XA GTHO Phase IV should have got a mention. What a car that would have been. The four that were made left all the previous model GTHOs in their dust ... and they were quick cars.
@@Jumbo-k4t Well aren't you a star. Doesn't change the fact that these vids are often so far off track they're rubbish. And I've got better things to do than try to produce an accurate correction. You seem to like doing it. Go for it.
@@pauljolly8687 I'm not correcting anyone I'm making adult videos to make people laugh because I'm bloody funny lol All I'm saying is I wish more people would contribute instead of thinking it should be done for them .
@@Jumbo-k4t Actually Why don't you see if you can make one that is more accurate. I want to confirm my suspicion that you are dumber than the AI that made this video.
The video is about aussie muscle that left US cars in the dust- which no aussie car ever did. I love my Chargers, but it wasnt quicker than every usa mopar that year. Every usa brand of muscle had something quicker than the E-49.
As an Australian growing up in this time period this video has so many embarrassing factual errors it's gobsmacking. Where the hell is the E38 Charger? How in gods name can you not have the XY GTHO Phase III in the list?? SERIOUSLY .... Where is the XA GT and GTHO Phase IV ? Where is the GTR XU1?? WTAF You have to be taking the piss pitting an AP6 on the list above any of these and you didn't even have accurate pics. This is an embarrassment. AI voice over ? Are you serious. To the author. Go back to square 1 and do proper research and get the facts before putting out such rubbish.
If the Falcon XA Phase 4 were officially released as a limited production run homologated road version that would have to be 8n the op 3. Phase 4 and the Torana LJ XU2 were the true supercars we almost got.
It would have been interesting if GMH had gone ahead with the 253 V8 in the LJ. Properly tuned and balanced and mods to the suspension, it would have been almost the ultimate game changer. Certainly, Id have upgraded from my LJ
The rarest car on this list is the Ellexa Nine Ex Torana. You are more likely to see a James Hardie Phase 10 Asbestos Air Guitar before you'd see one of these.
@JoeShabidu Oh, u mongrel. I googled Ellexa Nine Ex Torana, cause Id never heard of it and then a huge CLICK hit me in the back of the head. wtg fella, lol
@@JoeShabidu Seriously, r u that thick. What the fk is a Ellexa Nine Ex Torana? Do you mean a LX A9X Torana? If thats whats trying to come out of your mouth, I suggest you listen/look more closely at the video yourself. People like you make so many look dumb.
@@tazman8697 Thanks tazman, I know about that, just a pity they didn't show one with a V8 in it. Gotta admit though, it would be damn near impossible to find one now adays.
You are wrong about the charger, 1st of all the R/T E49 was a valiant charger, they didn't use Chrysler until 1977 and it wasn't 0-100moh in 14.1 secaonds, it was the standing 1/4 mile in that time, Australian cars didnt measure 0-100 times in the 1970s
THANK Joe Hockey , we subsidise , no more , Germans kept , 10's of 1000s of jobs , Volkswagen could not give away 1946 , now own Rolls , Qe2 , thanks never forgave ya for Changi
F.O.R.D. FKD OR RUN DOWN , FOUND ON RUBBISH DUMPS , FUNGUS ON REAR DOORS , I DO LOVE 1966 XR 289 windsor , but my GMH 1966 HR X2 , A TRUE RARE MASTERPIECE,, THE BEST CAR Australia ever produced. RARARA
The E49 had a V8 340 cui. It was the E38 which was the 6 cylinder with triple dual throat webers I HAD ONE. 14 second 1/4 mile. The XW Ford 351 cui V8 GTHO phase 3 was the fastest standard production car in the world 1971. Bolwell wasnt a standard production car, more like a kit car or Clubman type. I drove all thes cars when I was 17 to 18 years old 1972/73. Ford was #1 even though losing Bathurst in 1972 to GM 6 cylinder XU1, GT Fords gave me goosebumps everytime I heard one at the traffic lights. A9X was the resurgence of GM muscularity, There was no E37 the race car was the E38 with 6 Pack. I loved the XR GT, to this day little 289 was champion but 351s blew its wheels off. AP6? I had one, it was a shopping car and NO V8s?? It had a slant 6 and was wicked performer. XC Cobra was a tamed down GTHO 351, I also loved The XC Coupe style and it had impressive 5 litre 302 V8 power BUT NOTHING LIKE 351 CLEVELAND GTHOs. 71 GTHOs go for $1 Million Plus at Auction today and Torana A9X HALF THAT PRICE AT AUCTION. Ford is #1 on auction blocks in supercar era. I hope I straightened this out for you, without criticising as I was a BOY RACER of the early 1970s and fulthy rich to afford it, this was a really good artcle stacked with nostalgia for me, thankyou
Chargers did not dominate the racing scene far from it they ran behind the Torana’s & GTHO’s. Also the 1969 Falcon Gt Phase 1 was a Falcon GTHO Phase 1 with a Windsor 351 v8
@@MacRODesign55 Nice try. The only Chargers ever available out of showrooms & directly to the public in NZ were luxobarge 770s & every single one of them was an automatic. No R/T E37s. No R/T E38s. No R/T E49s. No E55s. All retail NZ Chargers were built at Todd Motors except for special orders. Obviously, any serious Charger built & raced in NZ was a SUBSTANTIALLY modified car. The popular NZ category won repeatedly by automatic 770 Chargers only permitted locally assembled cars which didn't allow GTHOs, XU-1s or L34s. It did allow weird locally built 770 Chargers optioned up with the E37 Triple Weber performance pack producing over 300BHP. This was a nutty Valiant cake walk where go fast Valiants were protected species oddball flyers allowed to stomp all over little Hillman Imps & other ordinary average nonperformance cars. Discusting really. Other NZ Race Rules allowed for such modifications while Australia's ATCC was run under strict series production rules up until the advent of Group C in 1973. Some easy research will quickly tell us why Moff's Mustang failed in NZ. Probably a lack of locally available suitable tyres or engine issues & a lack of spare parts? Dunno. Would have to look into it. NZ motor racing was a closed environment clearly geared to ensure locally built Valstangs won everything easily. Am no Ford fan. Actually prefer Valiants & would love a V8 VC Regal in white with the black vinyl top. However, history records NO Chrysler powered item ever got anywhere near Moff's purpose built '69 Hollman & Moody TransAm Mustang, except in oddball NZ where the rules were weird & unique & suited to locally raced cars. It's a shame cash strapped Chrysler Aust lagged so far behind Aust Ford & Holden in everything they did. The Falcon had Windsor power & a 4 speed in 1967. The 186S HR Holden also had a 4 speed by 1967. What was Chrysler Aust thinking by going racing with a 3 speed box in 1971? Chryslers 1971 VH range didn't even have a single vent in the dash! Bizarre. Go fast Valiants came with disc brakes & NO DAMN BRAKE BOOSTER! Madness. A booster was an optional extra. Some of us old geezers survived the Australian Muscle Car era & we have the limps & the scars to prove it. We remember the first Hemi sixes failing & overheating because the kooky heads split straight up the middle. We remember having to go through the ridiculous process of having to remove entire front mudguards off VH Valiants when the stupidly hidden bonnet hinge springs broke & we got blasted by the missus for cutting handles off brooms to make bonnet props for dopey Valiants. Things got really dangerous & irritating when Chrysler retained the very same tinny frame rails from all the slant models & then tossed in their thumping great crazy heavy truck Hemi Sixes AND THE FRAME RAILS BROKE BEHIND THE STEERING BOX! Absolute madness. Thousands & thousands of reasonably healthy Valiants went to the tip because the loony torsion bar front ends chewed out their piddly little bushes, the front ends squeaked like mad, the wheel alignment went berserk, cost a fortune to fix, didn't get fixed & the inner edges of front tyres got chewed off in just one weekend driving to & from the beach. Crazy. Then there was the early version of the Hemi starter motor which also screamed it's guts out at sunrise when the neighbour wound the motor over in his Vitamin C E37 as he tried to leave for work. Just plain annoying. Then there's the terrible vinyl used on the seats which went hard, cracked & split & curled up like egg shells. Not nice. My family had Valiants. My old man was the A-Grade mechanic at the Ampol servo at Balgowlah Heights on Sydney's North Shore until we left in Oct '73. The Old Girl had a hotted up AP5 & we really loved that car. It was traded on Parramatta Road for a gleaming mint Slant/Auto VC in Sept '73. It also wasn't a bad car but when things got really serious in Aust Motor Racing, Chrysler Aust fell miserably behind. Had they punched out the E49 when they first released the E37 in '71, I recon Brock probably wouldn't have nailed down his first Bathurst win in '72. Had Chrysler Aust stopped pissing around & dropped a half a dozen E49s on the Bathurst grid in '71 & maintained some serious momentum, Holden's piddly little 202 XU-1 would have needed a rocket up it's clacker to keep up. Unfortunately for Aust Valiant fans, Chrysler just never could keep up & the teency little Torana got the '72 win & as if to prove it wasn't a fluke, the little six banger Torana very nearly did it again in '73. The ATCC & the Manufacturers Championship in Aust during the late '60s & right up until the early '90s was a very serious business. The cars, mechanics & drivers who won these events didn't win by accident. The cars had to be truly supreme. The poor old Valiant just wasn't quite good enough. I was right in the middle of it. I remember it all like it was yesterday. Some of us desperately wanted to see a Valiant break through for a Bathurst win because we felt they deserved to win. Our Valiants were Aust built cars, they had their faults, they sometimes drove us nuts, but we loved them anyway. NZ is a different story. They had seriously fast operators like Coppins & Richards, wildly hotted up TwinCam Escorts, V8 Cortinas, monster Big Block Camaros, locally developed Mustangs & hordes of enthusiastic Valiant people who went to huge extremes to get their Valiants competitive. We knew the Kiwis were into it big time the minute Richards & Coppins arrived here & grabbed a podium (Third Outright!) straight off the bat in a fast but notoriously fragile L34 at Bathurst in 1974. The L34 was then still only a newborn baby which had just begun it's racing life in Adelaide on the 25th of Aug '74. Crazy fast talented Kiwis Richards & Coppins had what it took to get their virtually untried Torana to the Bathurst finish line ahead of an entire field of top shelf local Aussie talent except for just one other L34 (Forbes & Negus) & the winning Goss / Bartlett Falcon. The Kiwis had arrived! One day I'll find a decent book showing New Zealand's Touring Car Racing History. That would have to be a fabulous read. It'd be interesting to discover just what was done to get Chargers into the winner's circle seeing as it rarely happened here.
@@MacRODesign55 PS: A good mate had an oddball Charger in Brisbane back in the early '90s. It was a Magenta '71 770 with the line of black dots embossed into the sill covers. That car was plated as optioned: E37, so it had a Webered 265 & 3 on the floor. I can only assume Todd Motors in NZ were importing these "Six Pack" optioned 770s, tossing the slush boxes, upping compression ratios, installing aggressive camshafts, bolting in manual boxes & basicly assembling homegrown R/T Chargers? Whatever it was they got up to, it clearly worked.
The 1966 Falcon has the flower pot steering wheel which was unique to 1967 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars. Also, the engine shown in the video is a 351, not a 289. The 351 was first available for the 1969 model year.
One of the most significant and in many ways the lead unit was the CL and LJ (better performance) Holden GTR XU-1. Again, two modified six-cylinders at 2850 and then 3300, they dominated Bathurst as well as being serious road cruising machines.
I once owned a '69 South African Valiant Barracuda with a (I think) 325 cu. inch slant six engine. The car was standard. What a pleasure, should never have sold it, regretted to this day.
What happened to the giant killing LC & LJ GTR X-U1 Toranas as well as the 5 litre LH SL-R Toranas? The XA & XB GT Falcons? And a Valiant AP6 as a muscle car? The Falcon Cobras were just to get rid of the excess coupés that weren't selling ater tarting them up with go-faster stripes, spoilers & alloy wheels. The engines were detuned V8s with emissions controls. Hardly exciting, but they looked the part. Most of the American muscle cars had big, grunty big block V8s. A 302, 308, 351 or similar could be found in many US family sedans & wagons.
there will always be differing opinions , Homologated 6.9 litre , 450SEL , benz , watch 'ctait un rendevous , for fun , You know I know this is AI bullshit for clicks ,
Correlation is not necessarily causation, but that 'muscle car' era [1970's] was also when people were 5 times more likely to die in a car crash in Australia than they are today. ESPECIALLY young men! I grew up in that era and at about age 30 I could recall two of my peers dying of natural causes, three committing suicide and at least 30 or more dying in car or motorcycle crashes. I'm amazed I survived!
@@iannagel2499 better regulation/policing. Young d!ckheads can't get away with a fraction of things we got away with as young d!ckheads. Same with old [drunk] dickheads.
@@iannagel2499 The other side was that one drove to the conditions not the speed sign. I survived quite happily in a heavily modified Mk3 Triumph Spitfire and my XU-1. Years later, after marriage and down graded to a bike, I got trashed in Canberra by some dickhead in a standard sedan who turned though a red arrow and hit me broadside.
No aussie muscle left the americans in the dust- either in acceleration or top speed. Ours may have handled a little better as road racing was our game.
I’m pretty sure you’ll find the GTHO ph3 was ‘the fastest production car in the world’ for many years, maybe even decades. Edit, you know, the one that wasn’t mentioned in this video….
@@nathanhansford76 like who cares Australia had its own outlook of what we liked, US cars never took off here to big and gas guzzlers and I think ours looked better
Sorry Ross, your WRONG.....only the aftermarket US muscle cars were quicker on the road than ours . The big engined Mustangs were impossible to get off the line and keep straight etc etc. Only the improved USA cars were both quick and DRIVEABLE !!! AND the US factory cars were limited by governors.....massive V8 engines and hp, but limited to a top speed about 117 mph, like a Falcon GT was......the XY GTHO doing 140 mph and the XA RPO engine ( phase iv GTHO ) doing 160 mph even if out of tune.
A9x was just a remanufactured Chevy Vega. Falcon was also an American car. Both GMH and Ford as well as Valiant were all American companies. The So called Aussie HQ Monaro even had Comaro stripes and thr GTHO PH3 had a mustang scoop as did many xb falcons. The Falcons had Mustang floor pans and suspension. No diff buddy.
@ bullshit. Some parts may be similar. But the Aussie muscle cars were superior because they were designed properly. The American vehicles you mentioned weren’t anything like the Aussie cars.
@@marksmart9754 They were in fact pretty much the same. all falcon floor pans and suspension and brakes were mustang items. The Torana was Chevy based. The Salisbury diff was an American diff not Australian and the GMH front suspension was the same as so many other GM cars. After all, GMH and Ford were 100% American car manufacturers.
@@matton36zThe Holden Salisbury diff is not the same as the Chevrolet Salisbury diff... parts don't interchange. Salisbury is the name for that type of diff, Borg Warner,Dana. Banjo is the name for diffs that have a removable differential 'center'. Various Ford,early Holden, Toyota 4WD.
@@ate71622 Thats correct. The Holden salisbury was just a Borg Warner. As for tyhe Banjo, yes that was Australian and what a piece of garbage it was along with the Aussie 4 speed.
go OZ, we make the best of anything I started work as a Holden dealership mechanic in '72, what a time! Bring the worlds' cars to Bathurst & us Aussies will take 'em on! What, no XU1 Torana's. They were the cars that bear the Phase II's, I think, or was it III? Did you know they made 2 x Phase IV Falcon's, but dismantled them due to the oil crisis like they made the XU1 in a V8 form? At least we got the L34's later, and they used to throw rods out the side of the block next to the starter, I should know, I used to build the motors back up; I miss them days. And what about the Leyland P76, it didn't make the top 10; good, they were 💩
Stopping was also optional, and if you stopped too fast, your seat mounts would break, and you would be catapulted out of the windscreen, seat and all. These "muscle" cars are remembered with rose tinted glasses, because the were all rubbish, all death traps, and they were not put together very well at all. All about power, and nothing else. That is why they failed.... because they were rubbish.
Another great video, love the (at least by me), never seen before factory shots. Well done. Makes me proud of our Aussie engineering and appreciative of the American parent companies who provided the development money.
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and provided the engines and engineering lol 351 how cute ! how about 500hp monsters living in the US ? No Ozzy's got robbed. they came in late and got to stay longer. their 70s cars after 72 were probably faster than what we had , but before that ya / no not even close. i can't help but laugh when he says MONSTEROUS 351. lol little peanut motor.
@@FromTheGong true but one did run down the production line and was officially a PH4. Would be interesting to see how much it was felt at auction, if only I had a few million dollars 🙏
@@MarkCockerill-r9tthe three phase 4's werent production- they were at best pre production test cars. Assembled well away from the production line where spies and loose lips could not access.
@@rossbrumby1957 The Ph 4 was a production car until the government banned them, there was one that went down the production line, it was a green 4 door PH4 now owned by a dentist in Sydney.
Despite the nay sayers, FORD sold hundreds of GT RPO's with the full Phase 4 engine, top loader gear box, Bathurst diff, and GTHO suspension and brakes. These cars were real 160 mph Phase 4 HO's, but officially sold as Falcon GT's for the same price. All the relevant info is on the compliance plate. 2nd hand , the GT RPO is worth more than the GT.....but if it has the full RPO extras on the compliance plate, then it is worth almost as much as a Phase 3 HO, although some collectors and enthusiests will pay ANYTHING for the right RPO.
They were all rust buckets, which is sad as not many of these icons exist anymore...... They all handled like pigs and had shit brakes except the Holdens which had brakes known as "sudden death", which could put you through the windscreen..... but as a mechanic of the era, I can say they were very easy to work on as there was plenty of room under the lid and we had a lot of fun trying to get more horsepower out of them.......
Very much appreciate the trip down nostalgia lane, however that had to have been the most discombobulated attempt at ranking 1 to 10 I ever have seen. Now although the algorithm loves you for my view and comment ( youtube are S{C}ee you(U) next tuesday{S} like that....), there will be no "like and subscribe" for you my fine feathered friend
For all those disappointed in this AI produced report then be sure to give it a down tick. If enough do so the producers will either up their game or use a real person to narrate and check their work.
There are so many incorrect statements in this, for example, the XR GT came out in 1967 not 66. And the A9X never competed against any GTHO’s and the only result a Charger had at Bathurst was 3rd in 1972. Plus, where is the most iconic Aussie muscle car, the GTHO Phase 3?
Welcome to the latest AI technology carefully crafted to totally destroy all accurate memories of Australia's once world beater but now thoroughly destroyed automotive industry.
The clowns behind this evil actually hate us & deliberately show wrong images, quote wildly untrue "facts", intentionally mangle our proud history & ruin the minds of younger generations who only use the fool internet to research any topic.
This vile machine will absolutely reply to you, pretend to be sorry, promise to remedy & then do no such thing.
Aint it just great?
Give it another 6 months & it'll tell you just how good Chinese cars are compared to anything ever produced in Australia.
Imagine how good it will be when you can take your Chinese car into the drivethrough at Kentucky Fried Kitten?
Okay on RUclips there is a thing that says go live now it's very simple to record yourself with all the correct information and make a video yourself just like I did
@@Jumbo-k4t
So you just dropped everything about you straight into the matrix?
Well done.
@@johnbrooks9523 What the hell are you talking about? dropped myself in lol I'm not sure you're good at communicating
Exactly, the fastest car we produced didnt even get a mention and it was the fastest 4 door car in the world for 30 years or so. The Ford Falcon GTHO Phase 3
Nice trip down memory lane. Pity you forgot the legendary LC and LJ Torana GTR-XU1
LJ was mentioned by me BUT LC was unremarkable
Well I'm going to add to the comments and state that that was the slant six not a V8! I don't know how the hell it could have gotten that wrong! The slant six is a beast of a block! Those things were light and powerful and very reliable! They were also very tunable and you could and people have done forced induction in the form of centrifugal superchargers and turbo chargers. Regardless of whether or not most of that information is correct I will say that these vehicles are absolutely gorgeous! As an American I have never been to Australia and I am kind of pissed off that more wasn't done with straight sixes in America. The straight six is a very versatile lightweight very durable reliable configuration! Not to say that I am not a fan of all internal combustion engines in all their configurations! I am a big fan of diesels V8 and inline and single cylinder! What can I say I love the classics! So I tip my hat to you in Australia and I say that you have some absolutely gorgeous vehicles and what you did with that straight six in the charger is brilliant! What I wouldn't give for one of those cars! Anyway that is my two cents and light ramble! Autism it's an interesting rollercoaster ride! I think there's a couple of other things but I'm not sure still working on that. I have some ideas but until I get some confirmation from an outside perspective I won't be entirely sure. Don't worry about me I'm all right! I am the happiest that I have ever been in my life it's just I want to know. Because if I know then I can at least explain myself. Honestly I don't mean offense! However I am brutally honest! That's why I had to say something! I couldn't let that slide! I have never had a slant six but that doesn't mean that I don't respect the hell out of them!
I suggest you look at the Australian Ford Barra inline 6 engine for a project. They are starting to take off on the USA (and several other countries) not only very strong but very easy to to tune for incredible power -plenty of examples, here in Australia, of street cars with in excess of 1,000hp. Track examples now are exceeding 2,000hp. There was a factory turbo option which put most V8s to shame. Highest ex-factory specification was 436 hp @ 6000 rpm, 425 lb⋅ft @ 2750 rpm -not bad for 243 cu in!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Barra_engine#Barra_270T_(FG)
maybe he was thinking of a Pacer, Did the AMC Pacer ever have a V8?
AMC Pacer - Wikipedia
The option package was available only with the 258 cu in (4.2 L) I6 or 304 cu in (5.0 L) V8 engine. "D/L" Package: A more upscale edition, the D/L was available for the entire run of the Pacer production and became the base model in 1978
Wasn't the slant 6. The E49 and E38 chargers were straight upright 6s. In 245ci or 265ci Hemis. The slant 6 was a 225ci in previous povo pack valiants.
The Leaning Tower of Power
The slant sixes had a head gasket problem.
I went to New South Wales last month to pick up a 4x4 I'd had rebuilt. While we were there, we visited an elderly relative who has Alzheimer's. He kept asking his son (my second cousin,) "where's me car, son?" And each time he'd get out his phone and show him the last few videos of him sitting in his car which is locked up at his son's house in a purpose built garage behind the house.
It's his bright yellow and black A9X Torona, in mint condition, with 45,000km on it. He bought it new and only drove it around the small country town they live in. I had no idea!
a decade or so ago, my cousin bought the first A9X sedan (001) but not long after, he passed away. After a few years his mum sent it to auction and it sold for $350k! The guy who bought it, held onto it for 18 months as an investment, then sent it back to auction where it sold for over $500k!!! Incredible...
A documentary on Australian cars referring to the hood rather than the bonnet!
This is what AI , does to "documentaries , makes Mockumentaries.
yep AI cheapens ALL videos.
oh thankyou, not a car writer in history could get so much wrong. Has to be A! which is disconnected, soon we will have zero history
The Holden Hurricane 1969 was ahead of its time. Pity it was only a concept car
I still remember the "Hey charger" ads on TV
v
Anyone remember the Mad Mile at Samford?
"It's unbelievable".
and everytime Charger past Charger drivers would flash V for victory hand sign
The 1971 Ford XY GTHO Phase III was the fastest four-door sedan in the world at the time. It could reach 142 mph (228 km/Hr0 straight from the factory.
Yeah, because really know one built fast 4 drs . They put everything into their 2 dr models . They should've built a 2 dr version Imo. But still an awesome car .
@@motorhead3707 um they did a year later in the XA, excluding the RPO83, the 2 door and 4 door GT, could be ordered with the same drive line.
No. The standard (XY) GT was guaranteed to do 144mph straight off the showroom floor.. The HO only really had a tricked up suspension - sway bars basically, but otherwise it wasn't a whole lot different from a standard GT.
@The_Resistance_1961 mmmm my dad bought a Phase III New, I can vouch the speedo needle hit the needle stop, and it was as it left the factory.
@@davidhardy503 You're lying. They only made 200 phase 3 GTs and I'll bet my dick nobody you know ever owned one.
I've owned, driven, or had a ride in nearly all these cars. I'm so old. :)
same, 70s were good to me
I've never owned or driven one but did get a ride in my late uncle's GTHO once. Oh, and I"m old too. :)
@@mutualbeard of course that counts, did he floor it and go to 90mph in second gear?
When Australian muscle cars, AI and a shit attempt at trying to simulate David Attenborough come together you get this shit!
We had the Holden Monaro in South Africa and what a car👍🏻👍🏻
The "Hey Charger" ad campaign was hugely successful in promoting the Charger. Whenever one drove by, all the kids would yell Hey Charger and present the Victory finger salute. I know that because I was one of those kids. Around 10yo when the Charger came out.
omg that AI voice over is so bad ! , who has ever called a V8 " five eight "
@@phillcc8524 It was AI and it read the V as a Roman numeral...number 5 🤣
I hate the Bot narration in so many videos. Pronunciation is often just wrong. Who's ever heard of a "three hundred and two" Ford V8. it's a "three-oh-two". The order of the cars presented is all over the place with some duplication. With the AP6 Valiant, it talks of the V8 but only shows 6-cylinder engine bays. And we have "Barth-hurst" again.
@@p38arover22some of us oldies say "Three Hundred And Two Cubic Inch V8" because IT IS ! Whipper-snappers think they know it all !
@@p38arover22 So Don't get your knickers in a twist ! Ha Ha .
5.8 litres probably
The best Australian cars ever made !!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤
Valiant Chargers, & Pacers, Holden Monaro, Torana's and Fords GT, and Cobras were all awesome looking back.... Made in Australia.... not like now...
Man I just love those Brock A9X's
The narrator fails to mention that the Chargers with the triple webbers was both an effort by Aussie and Italian engineers. A 265 Hemi was sent to Italy where the Italian engineers tuned the Webber carbs.
You have got a fair amount of the information wrong the LTD and the XB GT Falcon were the first to have four wheel disc brakes in 1973
welcome to 'el cheapo' made AI , just for clicks , expect many more , sadly
@@duncanyourmate2433
All really disturbing.
Aluminum? Aluminium Please in Australia. Mike in Oz
Sorry, I hate to be picky, but there is no mention of the Falcon GTHO PH 3. An under estimated hp claim of 300, but in reality had 380hp, and did I mention that for quite some time, was the worlds fastest 4 foor sedan. You could do a whole video just on that vehicle.
I remember my father got one of the first Monaros out of the factory .. custom leather white interior and a stunning burnt orange body .. as a teenager I would get embarrassed when I was dropped off at school ! It was very showy .. I remember the doors were massive !
My son bought one of the last Monaros ... petrol heads run in the family.... His great-grandfather would be so proud.😊
I love precision engineering..
As a Gen X male I love these Aussie muscle cars, I remember them fondly
gen x LOL Jesus what a Google sheep Allowing the Americans to put you into groups so you're easier to control
You forgot the Torana GTR-XU1
and that genuine enthusiasts are watching A.I stuff it up
@@duncanyourmate2433
Even funnier are all the goombies bleating & moaning in here because the wonky AI fact machine forgot to mention their beloved XA RPO Unicorn barge.
It's hilarious these knuckledraggers conveniently forget Brock crunched their RPO dreamturd at Bathurst in '72 with a dinky little 202 XU-1 Torana.
They should all be ashamed & stay hiding under their rocks.
I can't stop laughing.
@@johnbrooks9523 Harry knew how to tweak rules , FORD taught him how they did it .
@robyncahill9179 a serious question for you , Torana GTR XU1 or Charger E 37-38 for the win ?
That was awesome but not to include the phase 3 GTHO is shameful.
THE ultimate Aussie muscle that led the government of the day to put restrictions on car makers & put paid to the release of the phase 4.
The little misinformation here is that in 1972 most new cars in America were built with unleaded gasoline engines and the horsepower took a massive hit as did the performance. There were a lot of Japanese 4 cylinder cars out performing all American muscle cars.
Not in 72 the japs werent.
And those stupid huge bumpers .
They were the greatest of days! So many memories!
A mate purchased a GT HO Phase III about a month ago. We've been cruising in a few times and it's a head turner. Everywhere we go we see smiles on faces - it's an awesome car.
@@JoeShabidu Just having what he's got is awesome and I hope it's insured for more than his house.
awesome sauce in this vid right here
I'm thankful for my '72 Valiant Charger R/T... It hasn't let me down, and I have driven it countless times between my Tumwater home and the Bay Area... Even doin' shakedowns @Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca!!!
Yes , V8 swere developed , Chryslers got 3 speed 265 fast to 100 mph than HO III , then outta puff ,
Fifty percent made and full of miss information and other rubbish. Should be taken down. As I spent a lot of time in the high performance industry from 1969 on this production is an embarrassment. One example, The E37 Charger was a good example, we had a customer bring in his charger. He wanted it blue printed, which meant remove the engine R & R and taken to maximum tolerances' it had very serious brake fade issues from new( Trust me I found out the had way) and some tuning issues. After removing the engine and pulling it down we found two main bearing bolts in the sump and two broken rings. The exhaust development on this vehicle and the fact that they could not afford to use the exhaust the race drivers tested and approved. So they had to accept a cheaper compromise. The original test set had six primary pipes and three secondaries with a single outlet, This gave the performance and drivability to genuinely compete with the V8s. I hope they find a contributor who actually knows some of the true
history of these vehicles.
So many errors, the first and last time I will watch this channel
Makes you sick, doesn't it?
It's deliberate.
AI is owned by the same grubs massively invested in big pharma.
The more they drive you insane & make you throw up, the more money you spend on sickness.
Get off your arse and make a video then .very simple don't always leave it up to everybody else then complain
Did I fall asleep and miss the XY Phase III GT?
Yeah WTF?
What about the legendary......but short lived phase 4..
@@lancetuckey6403 Yeah I was waiting for that too but as we didn't get it in production it wasn't going to appear in a video about what the yanks didn't get
@glennblanchard4193 Only I phase 4 went down the production line and was fitted with a HO compliance plate....it was green .
The other 3....all red were standard XA GT falcons pulled from the line and modified to phase 4 specifications..... as for compliance plates I have no idea..
One of the 3 remaining cars was sold in 2018 for over 2 million.
351,s used to blow up pushed too hard 302 windsor better bye
A few people triggered in the comments section. Whilst there may have been a few errors here and there I still think it showcased the cars well and I enjoyed watching it. Cheers.
@@LeonKotze70
It takes a lot of work to produce a video of this length and standard and for someone outside of the country I think it was pretty well put together.
Australians 🤝 Brazilians: Beating Americans in muscle cars without having a budget.
Being 72 I think I have an insight; the producers of this video did a superlative job, Tnankyou
Yeh right, except that it is all AI. Have you ever heard of a "Five Eight" instead of a V8? That just annoys the hell out of me. I might not be 72 but I'm not far behind you and I agree this was interesting but it's not all true. These You Tubers just use AI to get their videos out there and as far as they are concerned it doesn't matter if it's wrong, because that just makes more of us comment and that is all their looking for, comments, because it makes their channel better and creates more of an income for them, and I just got sucked in again. I really wish I had kept my Torana, (and my XW Falcon, hindsight, it's a fine art) even if I could never tune those carby's properly.🤣 I do agree Steve it was nice to watch and it bought back a lot of memories.👍
AI is not 72 years old.
holy shoot. one of the mentioned cars is from the far (geographically-detached) rich side of my family
Mistakes or not, I loved every second of this 🎉
Thanks John:)
Thank you for the time and effort to focus on these beautiful vehicles.
The Monaro has always been my favourite growing up.
Thanks again mate, really appreciate you.
No mention of the Torana L34 ???
If ya gunna sprout it get it right n pro-nounce the models correctly and tell me the Cobra was the pinnacle of engineering 6 minutes after telling me the A9x dominated 78/79 (79 bathurst by 6 laps ffs! )love all the ozzy muscle Vals, Ford and Let the lion Raw!
So think who killed oz car manufacture ? Joe Fuking Hockey , (we have to subsidise ) well Volkswagen (no one wanted 1946) ,owns RR , an Germany has subsidised Auto industry for Cars an Jobs , but he's alright an fuk us
That drag strip is in Heathcote dragway in bendigo victoria australia
I'm surprised the Vauxaul valiant or the P76 leyland weren't mentioned as well as the Ford MK IV Zepher.
Peter Brock raced the Big Banger A9X around bathurst and he won the Great race and i have gotten the slot car version the original smoking brand on itself and it's a well done design of the slot car 100% percent perfect at all times
The XA GTHO Phase IV should have got a mention. What a car that would have been. The four that were made left all the previous model GTHOs in their dust ... and they were quick cars.
Too many errors to be treated seriously. Chronology was all wrong.
Well you make a video that's more accurate stop thinking that everyone else has to do the hard work ,contribute it's easy I did
@@Jumbo-k4t Well aren't you a star. Doesn't change the fact that these vids are often so far off track they're rubbish. And I've got better things to do than try to produce an accurate correction. You seem to like doing it. Go for it.
@@pauljolly8687 I'm not correcting anyone I'm making adult videos to make people laugh because I'm bloody funny lol All I'm saying is I wish more people would contribute instead of thinking it should be done for them .
@@pauljolly8687 I am not correcting anybody I am making people laugh maybe you should have a look
@@Jumbo-k4t Actually Why don't you see if you can make one that is more accurate. I want to confirm my suspicion that you are dumber than the AI that made this video.
So where's the VG hemi pacers ? 245 in different states of tune.
The video is about aussie muscle that left US cars in the dust- which no aussie car ever did. I love my Chargers, but it wasnt quicker than every usa mopar that year. Every usa brand of muscle had something quicker than the E-49.
its all AI crap mate , made for clicks ,
@@duncanyourmate2433 and comments
As an Australian growing up in this time period this video has so many embarrassing factual errors it's gobsmacking.
Where the hell is the E38 Charger?
How in gods name can you not have the XY GTHO Phase III in the list?? SERIOUSLY ....
Where is the XA GT and GTHO Phase IV ?
Where is the GTR XU1?? WTAF
You have to be taking the piss pitting an AP6 on the list above any of these and you didn't even have accurate pics.
This is an embarrassment.
AI voice over ? Are you serious.
To the author. Go back to square 1 and do proper research and get the facts before putting out such rubbish.
I think that was the E37
265 is the best engine ever made
Jessh theyd be priceless now!
Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi.
Where did you find the old man AI voice? GO TORANA!!! A9X! Rear of the Charger... sooo Iconic!!
If the Falcon XA Phase 4 were officially released as a limited production run homologated road version that would have to be 8n the op 3. Phase 4 and the Torana LJ XU2 were the true supercars we almost got.
How does in become 8n?
Dont forget that the E-55 340 chargers were detuned and given only autos for the same reason. They were all game changers that never happened.
It would have been interesting if GMH had gone ahead with the 253 V8 in the LJ. Properly tuned and balanced and mods to the suspension, it would have been almost the ultimate game changer. Certainly, Id have upgraded from my LJ
The rarest car on this list is the Ellexa Nine Ex Torana. You are more likely to see a James Hardie Phase 10 Asbestos Air Guitar before you'd see one of these.
@JoeShabidu Oh, u mongrel. I googled Ellexa Nine Ex Torana, cause Id never heard of it and then a huge CLICK hit me in the back of the head. wtg fella, lol
@@JoeShabidu Seriously, r u that thick. What the fk is a Ellexa Nine Ex Torana? Do you mean a LX A9X Torana? If thats whats trying to come out of your mouth, I suggest you listen/look more closely at the video yourself. People like you make so many look dumb.
Why do you tell us that Chrysler put a V8 into the AP6 while showing a slant six engine under the bonnet?
Most of the AP 6's were slant 6's........ The V8 version was only available in Australia although some were privately imported to New Zealand.....
@@tazman8697 Thanks tazman, I know about that, just a pity they didn't show one with a V8 in it. Gotta admit though, it would be damn near impossible to find one now adays.
Fabulous...
The famous and dependable Windsor engines were never American, they are in fact Canadian engines manufactured in Windsor, Ontario south of Detroit.
You guys are lucky , Its straight up
You are wrong about the charger, 1st of all the R/T E49 was a valiant charger, they didn't use Chrysler until 1977 and it wasn't 0-100moh in 14.1 secaonds, it was the standing 1/4 mile in that time, Australian cars didnt measure 0-100 times in the 1970s
Some amazing cars came out of Oz so sad that in one foul swoop the entire Oz built car industry was dismantled 🇦🇺😢
THANK Joe Hockey , we subsidise , no more , Germans kept , 10's of 1000s of jobs , Volkswagen could not give away 1946 , now own Rolls , Qe2 , thanks never forgave ya for Changi
F.O.R.D. FKD OR RUN DOWN , FOUND ON RUBBISH DUMPS , FUNGUS ON REAR DOORS , I DO LOVE 1966 XR 289 windsor , but my GMH 1966 HR X2 , A TRUE RARE MASTERPIECE,, THE BEST CAR Australia ever produced. RARARA
The E49 had a V8 340 cui. It was the E38 which was the 6 cylinder with triple dual throat webers I HAD ONE. 14 second 1/4 mile. The XW Ford 351 cui V8 GTHO phase 3 was the fastest standard production car in the world 1971. Bolwell wasnt a standard production car, more like a kit car or Clubman type. I drove all thes cars when I was 17 to 18 years old 1972/73. Ford was #1 even though losing Bathurst in 1972 to GM 6 cylinder XU1, GT Fords gave me goosebumps everytime I heard one at the traffic lights. A9X was the resurgence of GM muscularity, There was no E37 the race car was the E38 with 6 Pack. I loved the XR GT, to this day little 289 was champion but 351s blew its wheels off. AP6? I had one, it was a shopping car and NO V8s?? It had a slant 6 and was wicked performer. XC Cobra was a tamed down GTHO 351, I also loved The XC Coupe style and it had impressive 5 litre 302 V8 power BUT NOTHING LIKE 351 CLEVELAND GTHOs. 71 GTHOs go for $1 Million Plus at Auction today and Torana A9X HALF THAT PRICE AT AUCTION. Ford is #1 on auction blocks in supercar era. I hope I straightened this out for you, without criticising as I was a BOY RACER of the early 1970s and fulthy rich to afford it, this was a really good artcle stacked with nostalgia for me, thankyou
The E49 was a 6 cylinder The E55 option was the 340 V8
And the Phase 3 was an XY not an XW And there was an E37, it was a milder E38 version
Ahh a fulthuy rich kiwi , We are ANZACS 1st
I love it, AP6
i wish i still had my torana XU1 best car i ever owned LJ 2 door
Chargers did not dominate the racing scene far from it they ran behind the Torana’s & GTHO’s.
Also the 1969 Falcon Gt Phase 1 was a Falcon GTHO Phase 1 with a Windsor 351 v8
My recollection is that the Chargers kicked Ar5e in New Zealand, even beating the legendary Alan Moffat in his Mustang.
@@MacRODesign55
Nice try.
The only Chargers ever available out of showrooms & directly to the public in NZ were luxobarge 770s & every single one of them was an automatic.
No R/T E37s.
No R/T E38s.
No R/T E49s.
No E55s.
All retail NZ Chargers were built at Todd Motors except for special orders.
Obviously, any serious Charger built & raced in NZ was a SUBSTANTIALLY modified car.
The popular NZ category won repeatedly by automatic 770 Chargers only permitted locally assembled cars which didn't allow GTHOs, XU-1s or L34s.
It did allow weird locally built 770 Chargers optioned up with the E37 Triple Weber performance pack producing over 300BHP. This was a nutty Valiant cake walk where go fast Valiants were protected species oddball flyers allowed to stomp all over little Hillman Imps & other ordinary average nonperformance cars. Discusting really.
Other NZ Race Rules allowed for such modifications while Australia's ATCC was run under strict series production rules up until the advent of Group C in 1973.
Some easy research will quickly tell us why Moff's Mustang failed in NZ. Probably a lack of locally available suitable tyres or engine issues & a lack of spare parts? Dunno. Would have to look into it. NZ motor racing was a closed environment clearly geared to ensure locally built Valstangs won everything easily.
Am no Ford fan. Actually prefer Valiants & would love a V8 VC Regal in white with the black vinyl top.
However, history records NO Chrysler powered item ever got anywhere near Moff's purpose built '69 Hollman & Moody TransAm Mustang, except in oddball NZ where the rules were weird & unique & suited to locally raced cars.
It's a shame cash strapped Chrysler Aust lagged so far behind Aust Ford & Holden in everything they did.
The Falcon had Windsor power & a 4 speed in 1967.
The 186S HR Holden also had a 4 speed by 1967.
What was Chrysler Aust thinking by going racing with a 3 speed box in 1971?
Chryslers 1971 VH range didn't even have a single vent in the dash! Bizarre.
Go fast Valiants came with disc brakes & NO DAMN BRAKE BOOSTER! Madness. A booster was an optional extra.
Some of us old geezers survived the Australian Muscle Car era & we have the limps & the scars to prove it.
We remember the first Hemi sixes failing & overheating because the kooky heads split straight up the middle.
We remember having to go through the ridiculous process of having to remove entire front mudguards off VH Valiants when the stupidly hidden bonnet hinge springs broke & we got blasted by the missus for cutting handles off brooms to make bonnet props for dopey Valiants.
Things got really dangerous & irritating when Chrysler retained the very same tinny frame rails from all the slant models & then tossed in their thumping great crazy heavy truck Hemi Sixes AND THE FRAME RAILS BROKE BEHIND THE STEERING BOX! Absolute madness.
Thousands & thousands of reasonably healthy Valiants went to the tip because the loony torsion bar front ends chewed out their piddly little bushes, the front ends squeaked like mad, the wheel alignment went berserk, cost a fortune to fix, didn't get fixed & the inner edges of front tyres got chewed off in just one weekend driving to & from the beach. Crazy.
Then there was the early version of the Hemi starter motor which also screamed it's guts out at sunrise when the neighbour wound the motor over in his Vitamin C E37 as he tried to leave for work. Just plain annoying.
Then there's the terrible vinyl used on the seats which went hard, cracked & split & curled up like egg shells. Not nice.
My family had Valiants. My old man was the A-Grade mechanic at the Ampol servo at Balgowlah Heights on Sydney's North Shore until we left in Oct '73. The Old Girl had a hotted up AP5 & we really loved that car. It was traded on Parramatta Road for a gleaming mint Slant/Auto VC in Sept '73. It also wasn't a bad car but when things got really serious in Aust Motor Racing, Chrysler Aust fell miserably behind.
Had they punched out the E49 when they first released the E37 in '71, I recon Brock probably wouldn't have nailed down his first Bathurst win in '72. Had Chrysler Aust stopped pissing around & dropped a half a dozen E49s on the Bathurst grid in '71 & maintained some serious momentum, Holden's piddly little 202 XU-1 would have needed a rocket up it's clacker to keep up.
Unfortunately for Aust Valiant fans, Chrysler just never could keep up & the teency little Torana got the '72 win & as if to prove it wasn't a fluke, the little six banger Torana very nearly did it again in '73.
The ATCC & the Manufacturers Championship in Aust during the late '60s & right up until the early '90s was a very serious business. The cars, mechanics & drivers who won these events didn't win by accident. The cars had to be truly supreme.
The poor old Valiant just wasn't quite good enough. I was right in the middle of it. I remember it all like it was yesterday. Some of us desperately wanted to see a Valiant break through for a Bathurst win because we felt they deserved to win. Our Valiants were Aust built cars, they had their faults, they sometimes drove us nuts, but we loved them anyway.
NZ is a different story. They had seriously fast operators like Coppins & Richards, wildly hotted up TwinCam Escorts, V8 Cortinas, monster Big Block Camaros, locally developed Mustangs & hordes of enthusiastic Valiant people who went to huge extremes to get their Valiants competitive. We knew the Kiwis were into it big time the minute Richards & Coppins arrived here & grabbed a podium (Third Outright!) straight off the bat in a fast but notoriously fragile L34 at Bathurst in 1974. The L34 was then still only a newborn baby which had just begun it's racing life in Adelaide on the 25th of Aug '74.
Crazy fast talented Kiwis Richards & Coppins had what it took to get their virtually untried Torana to the Bathurst finish line ahead of an entire field of top shelf local Aussie talent except for just one other L34 (Forbes & Negus) & the winning Goss / Bartlett Falcon.
The Kiwis had arrived!
One day I'll find a decent book showing New Zealand's Touring Car Racing History. That would have to be a fabulous read.
It'd be interesting to discover just what was done to get Chargers into the winner's circle seeing as it rarely happened here.
@@MacRODesign55
PS:
A good mate had an oddball Charger in Brisbane back in the early '90s.
It was a Magenta '71 770 with the line of black dots embossed into the sill covers.
That car was plated as optioned: E37, so it had a Webered 265 & 3 on the floor.
I can only assume Todd Motors in NZ were importing these "Six Pack" optioned 770s, tossing the slush boxes, upping compression ratios, installing aggressive camshafts, bolting in manual boxes & basicly assembling homegrown R/T Chargers?
Whatever it was they got up to, it clearly worked.
All AI , expect many more for us genuine enthusiasts
@@duncanyourmate2433
The pattern I see indicates all the misinfo is deliberate & carefully devised to confuse & cause arguments.
The 1973 2 door Ford Landau coupe was fitted standard with 4 wheel disc brakes long before the A9X or any Holden.
The 1966 Falcon has the flower pot steering wheel which was unique to 1967 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars. Also, the engine shown in the video is a 351, not a 289. The 351 was first available for the 1969 model year.
One of the most significant and in many ways the lead unit was the CL and LJ (better performance) Holden GTR XU-1. Again, two modified six-cylinders at 2850 and then 3300, they dominated Bathurst as well as being serious road cruising machines.
Read LC
E 37 Charger production figure stated is wrong. 212 made in 1971 followed by another 23 in 1972. 149 E 49's in 1972 not 149 37's.
I thought a five eight was a rugby position.
Too much AI and not enough human checking. Sloppy.
Ford 351 Windsor and Clevelands are Five Eights.
In south africa we had the firenza can am it dominated every car here even the fairmond gt couldn't keep up
Adelaide was the Detroit of the South
I once owned a '69 South African Valiant Barracuda with a (I think) 325 cu. inch slant six engine. The car was standard. What a pleasure, should never have sold it, regretted to this day.
The biggest slant six was 225ci.
@@chuckrivers4525 Thanx.
What happened to the giant killing LC & LJ GTR X-U1 Toranas as well as the 5 litre LH SL-R Toranas? The XA & XB GT Falcons? And a Valiant AP6 as a muscle car? The Falcon Cobras were just to get rid of the excess coupés that weren't selling ater tarting them up with go-faster stripes, spoilers & alloy wheels. The engines were detuned V8s with emissions controls. Hardly exciting, but they looked the part. Most of the American muscle cars had big, grunty big block V8s. A 302, 308, 351 or similar could be found in many US family sedans & wagons.
Falcon GT 351 fastest 4 door in the world.
Cost $5000 when they came out , or about a years good wage or a third of a nice house.
there will always be differing opinions , Homologated 6.9 litre , 450SEL , benz , watch 'ctait un rendevous , for fun , You know I know this is AI bullshit for clicks ,
Correlation is not necessarily causation, but that 'muscle car' era [1970's] was also when people were 5 times more likely to die in a car crash in Australia than they are today. ESPECIALLY young men! I grew up in that era and at about age 30 I could recall two of my peers dying of natural causes, three committing suicide and at least 30 or more dying in car or motorcycle crashes. I'm amazed I survived!
That's the result of simpleton level licensing requirements. Since that era, nothing has improved.
@@iannagel2499 better regulation/policing. Young d!ckheads can't get away with a fraction of things we got away with as young d!ckheads. Same with old [drunk] dickheads.
@@iannagel2499 The other side was that one drove to the conditions not the speed sign. I survived quite happily in a heavily modified Mk3 Triumph Spitfire and my XU-1. Years later, after marriage and down graded to a bike, I got trashed in Canberra by some dickhead in a standard sedan who turned though a red arrow and hit me broadside.
No aussie muscle left the americans in the dust- either in acceleration or top speed. Ours may have handled a little better as road racing was our game.
I’m pretty sure you’ll find the GTHO ph3 was ‘the fastest production car in the world’ for many years, maybe even decades.
Edit, you know, the one that wasn’t mentioned in this video….
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Fastest "four door" production car and that would only have been in 1971, maybe 72.
@@nathanhansford76 like who cares Australia had its own outlook of what we liked, US cars never took off here to big and gas guzzlers and I think ours looked better
@@Eqium totally agree, hp for hp and kg for kg, Aussie muscle had it all over the yanks....
Sorry Ross, your WRONG.....only the aftermarket US muscle cars were quicker on the road than ours .
The big engined Mustangs were impossible to get off the line and keep straight etc etc.
Only the improved USA cars were both quick and DRIVEABLE !!!
AND the US factory cars were limited by governors.....massive V8 engines and hp, but limited to a top speed about 117 mph, like a Falcon GT was......the XY GTHO doing 140 mph and the XA RPO engine ( phase iv GTHO ) doing 160 mph even if out of tune.
Great to see content on Australian cars, but this is full of mistakes and omissions 😞
FFS train your AI please ...its a muscle car channel that cannot correct pronounce Vee...8 not bloody 5...8
welcome to AI world where enthusiasts dont matter clicks do , very disappointed
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Watching this garbage is like trying to sleep with a cactus.
Technically, It wasn't always wrong. Ford 351 ci = Five Eight.
Someone cannot spell "Litre" what is going on with this country, Australia.
What happened to the Leyland P76?
How could you not mention the legendary XY Ford Falcon GTHO?
AI, aluminum😂 get stuffed this producer...
British AI accent pronouncing it like a North American AI
And the Australian cars actually turned corners and stopped.
A9x was just a remanufactured Chevy Vega. Falcon was also an American car. Both GMH and Ford as well as Valiant were all American companies. The So called Aussie HQ Monaro even had Comaro stripes and thr GTHO PH3 had a mustang scoop as did many xb falcons. The Falcons had Mustang floor pans and suspension. No diff buddy.
@ bullshit. Some parts may be similar. But the Aussie muscle cars were superior because they were designed properly. The American vehicles you mentioned weren’t anything like the Aussie cars.
@@marksmart9754 They were in fact pretty much the same. all falcon floor pans and suspension and brakes were mustang items. The Torana was Chevy based. The Salisbury diff was an American diff not Australian and the GMH front suspension was the same as so many other GM cars. After all, GMH and Ford were 100% American car manufacturers.
@@matton36zThe Holden Salisbury diff is not the same as the Chevrolet Salisbury diff... parts don't interchange. Salisbury is the name for that type of diff, Borg Warner,Dana. Banjo is the name for diffs that have a removable differential 'center'. Various Ford,early Holden, Toyota 4WD.
@@ate71622 Thats correct. The Holden salisbury was just a Borg Warner. As for tyhe Banjo, yes that was Australian and what a piece of garbage it was along with the Aussie 4 speed.
The Monaro was a shocker of a car,did not handle that well.
Let’s face it, no car of the era handled all that well either.
Rubbish.
@ compared to modern cars every car of that era handled like a shit house on wheels
@ GT Falcons @ the time handled a lot better than the Monaro.They weren’t very well executed in that department
go OZ, we make the best of anything
I started work as a Holden dealership mechanic in '72, what a time!
Bring the worlds' cars to Bathurst & us Aussies will take 'em on!
What, no XU1 Torana's. They were the cars that bear the Phase II's, I think, or was it III?
Did you know they made 2 x Phase IV Falcon's, but dismantled them due to the oil crisis like they made the XU1 in a V8 form?
At least we got the L34's later, and they used to throw rods out the side of the block next to the starter,
I should know, I used to build the motors back up; I miss them days.
And what about the Leyland P76, it didn't make the top 10; good, they were 💩
Oh, and I love HOLDENS
The Chrysler Chargers were great in a straight line, cornering was an optional risk!
Stopping was also optional, and if you stopped too fast, your seat mounts would break, and you would be catapulted out of the windscreen, seat and all.
These "muscle" cars are remembered with rose tinted glasses, because the were all rubbish, all death traps, and they were not put together very well at all.
All about power, and nothing else.
That is why they failed.... because they were rubbish.
@@pinkfloyd870at least the Clevo V8 from the XY GT sounded way better than a shitty LSA from todays generation😒
Another great video, love the (at least by me), never seen before factory shots. Well done. Makes me proud of our Aussie engineering and appreciative of the American parent companies who provided the development money.
and provided the engines and engineering lol 351 how cute ! how about 500hp monsters living in the US ? No Ozzy's got robbed. they came in late and got to stay longer. their 70s cars after 72 were probably faster than what we had , but before that ya / no not even close. i can't help but laugh when he says MONSTEROUS 351. lol little peanut motor.
However , not without an iron fist !
NI loves Aussies
The 427 and good handling would have made the Monaro really go
Make that a L88 427 will ya' 👍
Piss that AI voice off and do some research to get your facts right. Also why do these videos always forget the green GTHO PHASE4?
Because it was never officially released as a production model. But yeh, I'd chuck it up near the top.
@@FromTheGong true but one did run down the production line and was officially a PH4. Would be interesting to see how much it was felt at auction, if only I had a few million dollars 🙏
@@MarkCockerill-r9tthe three phase 4's werent production- they were at best pre production test cars. Assembled well away from the production line where spies and loose lips could not access.
@@rossbrumby1957 The Ph 4 was a production car until the government banned them, there was one that went down the production line, it was a green 4 door PH4 now owned by a dentist in Sydney.
Despite the nay sayers, FORD sold hundreds of GT RPO's with the full Phase 4 engine, top loader gear box, Bathurst diff, and GTHO suspension and brakes.
These cars were real 160 mph Phase 4 HO's, but officially sold as Falcon GT's for the same price.
All the relevant info is on the compliance plate.
2nd hand , the GT RPO is worth more than the GT.....but if it has the full RPO extras on the compliance plate, then it is worth almost as much as a Phase 3 HO, although some collectors and enthusiests will pay ANYTHING for the right RPO.
Doesn't anybody do a REAL documentary any more? 😢
This video is a prime example of BENCH RACING! That's where your not nearly as fast as you think you are.
They were all rust buckets, which is sad as not many of these icons exist anymore...... They all handled like pigs and had shit brakes except the Holdens which had brakes known as "sudden death", which could put you through the windscreen..... but as a mechanic of the era, I can say they were very easy to work on as there was plenty of room under the lid and we had a lot of fun trying to get more horsepower out of them.......
This is perfect example of AI reporting and re-writing history !
Watch 'ctait un rendevous , 6.9 litre benz thru paris
You missed one the Leyland P76 that was shelved due to Leyland going broke.
Very much appreciate the trip down nostalgia lane, however that had to have been the most discombobulated attempt at ranking 1 to 10 I ever have seen. Now although the algorithm loves you for my view and comment ( youtube are S{C}ee you(U) next tuesday{S} like that....), there will be no "like and subscribe" for you my fine feathered friend
AI for clicks , real , watch 'ctait un rendevous , 6.9 benz , Ferrari GTO dubbed over circa 1972 ,
Though they aren't Detroit muscle, they are some great cars from down under..................
A friend of mine had this car and that colour and he named it MANGO
For all those disappointed in this AI produced report then be sure to give it a down tick. If enough do so the producers will either up their game or use a real person to narrate and check their work.