absolutely, my first was a HK then a HQ and a CV8 a few years ago, i never recognised the 4 door as a monaro. as a side note, my cousin has a HG bathurst in his garage gathering dust, its probably worth more than the property its on even with the engine out waiting to be rebuilt, one day.
Hey Popeye, the 1st Holden to use the Monaro name was in fact the HR. In 1967 I had a PE teacher who bought a new late production HR with the 186S motor, 4 speed manual, disk brake front, centre console between the bucket seats with a Tacho mounted in it. It had Monaro badges on the rear pillar. The HK Monaro wasn't released until July 1968, probably for Bathurst. I have had a 289 XR Falcon & my mate owned an HT GTS 350 Monaro that I drive many time. It had a 4 speed Muncie, but I think it was originally an Auto as they only came in Auto with the 350ci. The HR was probably a trial run version as another friend had an EH Premier with a full factory gauge cluster extending over the centre front speaker, 4 speed auto, hatch thru to the fully carpeted boot via the arm rest cavity, side mounted spare wheel with a long range tank. Cheers Peter from Oz
Reality: US muscle car factory claimed power outputs were total fiction. In most cases they were *much* lower than even the SAE gross figures which overstated output by around 30%. Tests on cars bought from dealers rarely achieved *anywhere* near the claimed performance. Road tests (with the exception of Road & Track) were totally unreliable. Australian power outputs were often vastly higher than claimed for insurance purposes. eg The '228KW' GTHO Phase III actually produced over 280KW on a dyno. That is more than real output of most American big block engines. For some perspective: In 1967 Drag racing legend Don Arbutts drove his bog standard Mercedes 300SEL-6.3 sedan to a series of drag tracks across the US. Despite having a mere 185KW, an automatic and 1800Kg weight he managed to beat all comers. The *only* unmodified production car that ever beat him over a 1/4 mile was a much lighter Corvette 427 big block. [Arbutts also said his Mercedes was the only car that could be safely driven at over 100 mph.]
Perhaps, but you folks rule when it comes to tricks for the Mopar slant-six. I see a few in vehicles at cruise-in's here that are producing surprising power and all the "goodies" on and in the engine, are "Aussiespeed". There's at least one vid on youtube with a slant six turbo making 370hp using aussiespeed add-ons and another with an aussiespeed supercharger on a slant six.
@@Thomas6Anderson yes, I’ve only ever been a v8 bloke, but the boys certainly got the old 265 humming, actually ford had a straight six Barra turbo after 2000 that’s been making some big numbers, quite a few motors are getting shipped to the states.
@@reubroper1427 DIN didn't come into use in the US until 1972. US manufacturers blamed 'pollution controls' when their claimed power outputs suddenly dropped by 30--40% overnight.
This is the worst Australian Muscle Car clip and commentary ive ever seen.Besides being technically inaccurate,it left out LC,LJ XU-1,LH SLR 5000,LX A9X Toranas,HT,HG 350 Monaro GTS,XW GT Phase 1 and 2,Chrysler E-49 Charger,Bolwell Nagari,even Leyland P76 Force 7.Not to mention later model Commodores and Falcons.Plus the good old 253/308/304 Australias V8.
A lot of the cars mentioned here were not muscle, how can a luxury car be a muscle,for a start they are too heavy,the luxury cars didn’t have the same engine as the muscle car,same engine block & that all, performance bits missing luxury cars had soft suspension &all the other garage etc 1/2 of the video was B/S they left out other muscle cars that are more important than the luxury cars they claimed were muscle cars
The Monaro didn't start it in Australia it was the 67 Ford GT with a 225hp 289 Windsor same engine as the Mustang, also all our Aussie muscle cars had small blocks the US were not envious of us it was the other way around, still bloody great cars though.
Not all bro, our very last production Monaro briefly 'wore' a 427 alloy big-block too. So Brock did win 10 Bathursts, afterall! How many did Moffat and Johnson win? 🤔
@@davidlilja9180 yes Brock won 10 races at Bathurst but only won 9 of the 1000s. Also the 427 in those Garry Rogers Monaros was a larger bore/stroke version of the LS2 (6.0L) and thus technically a small block. But what a car and what a drive by Brock and team.
@@allworldmusic8270 well do you think Chrysler may of started the muscle car era with the first v8 in oz, I know they didn’t have a manual and they did come tenth at Bathurst behind the mini, if their were factory backed it could of been a different story!
@@JohnNaylor-n5r yes, ( I liked the VIP green with black vinyl roof )that doesn’t get noted very often. The XRGT was when the marketing war began though.
You could have mentioned some of the Toranas that actually made it to production, (SLR/5000, or A9-X or the GTR- XU1) they were well loved in their time and are still sought after by collectors.
Some nice old cars there , but as others have mentioned, it was really the 66/67 XR falcon GT that was the beginning of the Aussie muscle car era , and you missed quite a few including the XT GT , XW GT , , Torana GTR , And XU1 models , the later V8 torana models , the 350 CI monaro models , just off the top of my head . Stoll quite a few cool old cars featured , brings back memories, thanks for posting.
If your talking muscle cars of that era, then where's the following cars? Torana GTR XU1, Torana L34. and the undisputed king Torana A9X. In future , just let Aussies talk about their cars. You can focus on your American muscle.
Agreed, rumor or has it that so many RPO parts were left over, that ford built them into their standard model base lines, XA,XB and the XC GXL, in order to get rid of the parts, Ford Australia never told the salesmen of the parts that went into those base models... I once physically seen an XC GXL, had a 351 with 4 bolt mains, enhanced Top Loader gearbox, and a differential not seen on the base models, the gearbox had the oversized oil sumpan ( the one with the side wings) and the whole kit went like a rocket sled on rails.
@@LogicalAspect1 A mate of mine had an XA GT RPO. The compliance plate said Falcon Special. The 351 4V Cleveland engine was built in Factory 5 or 7 (I think), had Crane roller rockers, solid lifters, Track 4 cam, 800cfm Holley, headers and a rediculous low ratio final drive. Printout from Ford reported misfires on cyl 5-LEAVE as it clears but develops exceptional power. This engine was brutal as it had all the gofast gear for Bathurst
@LogicalAspect1 I've read up on it and yes it was to get rid of parts from the killed off Phase 4 program. There was to be a Phase 5 built using the XA coupe
I had a 1972 XA 2 door hardtop coup GT HO Phase 4. No. 8 of 24 according to the Compliance Plate. A "barn find", I had it Authenticated by Ford Australia pty ltd, and BSS 1981 before I started the 9yr resto'.
My first 2 cars were an HK stock crashbox, 186 sedan, then an HG man ex-V8 sedan wearing GTS guards and bonnet, with a slightly moded 186, with 6 into 2 extractors, dual pipes, & a Premier grille & interior. I only recall my parents owing an FX, EH wagon, then an HQ wagon, before leaving the brand for a 200B wagon. So, I personally do have a soft spot for older ones. Starting my mechanic's apprenticeship in 1980, for a Vic government department, I got to learn my craft on a wide-ranging fleet. That included many HX, HZ, & WBs, mainly as panel-vans. They remain the easiest vehicles I've ever maintained throughout my career. I've spent over 15yrs with one of 2, Oz auto-clubs, as a breakdown mechanic; working on over 7,000 vehicles pa at my peak. Holdens of most types, that were at least partially designed in Oz, remained near the top of the list for ease of work by the roadside if needed, too. The fact that I loved the production car racing of the day, as well as the F1 tech of that time, did encourage me to find out that both the HK & HG were still both safe enough to reach, or exceed, 160kph in the right conditions. The HG, with its moded interior, brakes, suspension , tyres/wheels & steering, was much more so. Efficiency has become much more important to me over time. I've been driving an Oz built, 1996 Corolla auto hatch for many years now. Only its major failure, or a hybrid or electric vehicle, could temp me to consider changing for now. Good cars can have a great lifespan, & remain environmentally justifiable, because so much energy has already been put into building them. A new car mean a new load of energy to build it & recycle the old one. Cars of today are far more efficient, largely thanks to emissions rules. Motor racing, by manufacturers, has always offered the chance to test a vehicle's bounds in the real world, where we all expect to be safe whilst driving our often 2-tonne, plus potentially deadly, 160kph+ factory made machines. I wish I didn't like the sound of a well-tuned ICE, with a suitable exhaust sound. An A9X crossing the Bathurst mountain top, surreal, back in the day; but I've never REALLY wanted to buy or own one. I've driven enough of other people's cars to know what I don't want to live with. Build one myself, perhaps? 🤔 I last tried that, on a budget, with a Datsun 1200 wagon in the 80s. What a change! I was so glad I didn't bother going above 1400cc. I learned enough about mixing a very light weight with just a 15-25% power increase, to not need to do it ever again! My well-imagined 'dream' car would have been a .......but they don't make Holdens anymore.
The Torana in all forms should be shown - from around Australia in the 4-cyl setting endurance and reliability records off-road!, the GTR big six and the XU-1, the SLR and the A9X! I had a VB SLE with a 257 cu-in which could and did beat the largest Chryslers! The Leyland Force 7 should be mentioned too! Maybe even the Targa Florio - a boot big enough to land a helicopter in it! (ok - it was only a KH-4 but it can be done!).
What a load of rubbish. Technically and substantially inaccurate. Americans were never worried about our muscle cars if they even knew about them. Most Australians drove 6 cylinder cars but aspired for the small block V8 powered cars available from our manufacturers here. That’s never going to scare the big block weapons available to U.S. car buyers. I’m Australian and love our muscle cars but they were inspired by American cars with our own spin on them which usually meant they weren’t as powerful but generally handled a bit better than most of the U.S. offerings due to our style of racing.
Keep in mind that if it has a big block & drum brakes it can only do the 1/4 mile. And unfortunately most American Muscle Cars of the 60s & 70s fit that description, except for the introduction of disk brakes as standard equipment in the 70s due to the carnage...
Thats a shame mate , i had a couple of mates with early monaros , they actually drove quite nice too i think , but a lot of the old cars where great cruisers . Yes a lot of us have some regrets , if only we knew then what we know now ]: i remember going to the back street drags as a young bloke many times , one particular night there was a lovely black very warmed up 327 monaro whizzing dowm the strip/road , and he snapped the tailshaft at speed , the tailshaft dug in , either that or he broke the shaft and ran it over , it was amazing to see and it sent the ass end up in the air with masses of sparks ,car bouncing down the road , it was like a movie scene , he managed to keep it on the road , and park it up , and walked back up to the unofficial starting line , the poor barsted was white as a sheet :) .
@@mikldude9376 Mine was all original with the iron lion 253 v8. The engine had been fully reco'd and it was my first car. I paid $5k for it in 1986 from an old mechanic in the bush and drove the wheels off it for 6 years. Moved to Vic which had much tougher roadworthy rules, the indicator lenses were crazed, there was a tear in the roof liner, seats were cracked under the seat covers etc. I was poor but I could get a lease car through work so it went on blocks for years. Mrs got the shits about it in the backyard, I was always intending to restore it but work, kids etc. Got an offer from a family friend for $1k, I upped it to $2. Now you can't find a wreck for under $20k..
We were ALL AFRAID of them ..they were uncontrollable in wet weather..live axles no LSD xply tyres and drum brakes on most ..be afraid be very afraid !!!
Obviousy you never owned one, let alone have driven one. Try and keep your judgement within the context of the day and aportion any blame to the nut behind the wheel. I owned a few of them and was never AFRAID of any of them. I explored their limits, and stayed within them. Anything will bite you if you mistreat it. Even a loaded rifle is safe if pointed in the right direction with your finger off the trigger. Hysterics by a few self-serving Motoring Journalists of the day is what killed off what could have been, and enthusiasts were cheated. Imagine an LT1 powered Monaro with 4 wheel discs and a 340 manual Charger. World class weapons. Ford was trying so hard but only had a taxi chassis to work with.
Um I think you need to remember some of the graphic photos of road accidents in the newspapers at the time. That’s what killed them off. Yes you are correct in the fact that we can’t measure them against modern standards, but their brakes, suspension, steering etc were not even in keeping with what high performance stuff was coming in from Europe or what soon would come from Japan.
@@boo5877 well have to say I’m well above 35 and have had a hell of a lot of driver training and experience! The problem was they were great in the hands of an experienced & trained driver, but not in the hands of a normal person. Of course there were always the exceptions, but there weren’t many or they didn’t live long! Cheers
Aussie here. My old man had an Austin Lancer/Morris Major that he put a 2 stroke diesel engine into out of a small truck. He reckons that was a common performance mod for a lot of different cars of the 50's in his town. In the 90's the old man (who had his own diesel/car mechanic business) tricked out my 4 door LJ Torana. He took the 202 out and replaced it with a 186S block bored out to 208, yella terra heads, roller rockers, crow cam, forgot the piston and conrod and crankshaft brands, twin Stromberg carburettors, some how connected to an auto transmission out of a V8 VP commodore highway police pursuit car and a 3.08 LSD diff. Then engine was balanced. The old man reckons he made the car so it had power all through the power curve unlike a few of my mates and there mates Monaros, Toranas and Falcons that he reckoned had car set ups which only had power in the top end of the power curve and above 100km/h and were shit to drive around town in We also put 5 slot mags on it, put a rear facing air intake scoop on the bonnet, painted the car the original purple colour with the golden side stripe, nolathane bushes, Monroe shock absorbers and got the interior reupholstered and put a new Kenwood stereo and speakers in it. I was never really into the muscle cars scene ( i like trucks and bikes) and crowd myself, but that 4 door LJ Torana was a dream to drive.
Agree with previous comments that it was the 66/67 XR Falcon GT with the 289 ci V8 that kicked off the Aussie Muscle car era. Perhaps also give a nod to the 64 Holden EH sedan with the performance option.
The 1970s Falcon XY GT was also sold in South Africa as the Ford Fairmont GT. South Africa had a lot of "muscle cars" that were only ever sold here, like the 5L V8 capri's, 5L V8 Firenza CAN AM's, the V8 grenada's, the V6 Cortina's, the V8 Sierra's and lots of other special versions of cars...
The gtho, was not the quickest 4 door. Mercedes did a more beastly beast, it turns out. (A 350 monaro, was flipped, on a downhill in my town..troubled bit of road, that one, considering how straight it was..).
More corrections! "VJ Charger Sportsman (option A23) In August 1974, a limited edition Charger Sportsman was released, based upon the Charger XL. Built to a quantity of 500 units, all Sportsman cars were painted an exclusive combination of Vintage Red and white, with a combination black and white interior featuring specific cloth trim. These cars were powered by the standard 265ci engine and four speed manual transmission." "VJ Charger 770 (with option E55) When specified with the E55 340ci V8 engine option, such VJ-series cars were no longer tagged as a special edition Charger 770 "SE"."
Although locally adapted, Falcons were US designed until the XD arrived. Seeing a left-hand drive, US located, XC GXL wagon variant, confirmed that for me.
When I was 21 and stupid, I bought a new Monaro GTS 253 off the showroom floor; it was a run-out of the HG series - the HQ was already on sale. Unfortunately, my Monaro must have been built on a Friday: it rapidly fell apart. The dealer wasn't the least bit interested in doing repairs under warranty, and at 8,000 miles on the clock I returned it to the dealership emblazoned with "lemon" written in toothpaste (really bad for the metallic paint!). Of the 75 cars I've owned, that Monaro was by far the greatest disappointment. After that I turned to European cars.
When I was young and reckless I Had a 1984 Ford Fairlane with a tuned 351 Cleveland V8. That car was heavy as fuck but that engine picked it up like it was nothing. This was when everyone my age were into Japanese cars and turbos and whatnot, I never lost a drag race at the traffic lights against any of those, that instant torque a big V8 gives you is more addictive than crack lol!
My first car in 1981 was a 1969 HT Monaro GTS for AUD$2000, 2 months before I could get my licence. Would sit in it, in the garage, sometimes start the motor, while waiting to drive it. Was a long 2 months. Sold it for the same amount 3 years later. Best times with that car. Now worth about $250,000. Bugger.
I would have liked to see mention of the Ford XA GT-HO Phase 4 Falcon which was actually banned from production. I do note that the RPO83 was essentially the Phase 4 as parts needed to be used but it would have been nice to hear how that came to be.
Missed a few in this video , no xu1, no e38 charger,no e49 charger , but mentions the landu , and no Xr or xx gt either , just goes to show when someone from another country does a video on Ozzie muscle cars lol
You missed out Australia's fastest muscle car. The W557 GTS Walkinshaw (and the far more common but still exceptionally rare) W427 GTS Walkinshaw. Being modern cars they might be out of scope. But they are the pinnacle of Aussie Muscle. Or for the classic "muscle car" era the Bolwell Nagari (when equipped with the V8 351 Cleveland) would be the fastest. A significant reduction of the weight of the Phase III but all the power depending on the engine spec. These things were utter beasts but being a low volume manufacturer they never got the credit they deserved. Leaving out the XU1-GTR and A9X Torana SS was also a bad choice. The 770 Charger had the options of a 265 6 cyl, 318 v8, and 340 E55 which was a lower performance engine than the 265 Hemi in E38 or E49 form. While the E55 might have had the potential for more horsepower the extra weight of the v8 made them slower around the track so the E55 wasn't the weapon of choice for racing.
You guys realize that 351(C) means Cleveland, which is a city famously known to be in the US, in the state of Ohio. That's where your "Australian" 351C started out. Thank you Canada, for Locating Windsor right across the river from Detroit, so we could build our Small block V8s at a discounted labor rate there!
And the 351W was the best V8 ford made, but not the fastest. I had over half a million miles on mine before I had to rebuild it for the first time. And that is which it powering my Ford cargo van with a 4 speed manual trans. Yes we used to make good things in the US...
At this point i dont know what to say anymore, i cant express how much i love these australian muscle cars in australia. Good old falcon, kingswood, monaro they always have very good sounds and looks i love these cars. Dont forget the old school toranas and the new the FPV and the HSV but i love the old school better.
The Monaro is named after the Monaro Plateau, where Australia's capital city is located. When at Fairbairn Air Base, discovered that Canberra is the rev-head capital of Australia. The Falcon XY GT Super Roo with the 351 V8 before transmission modification, could also outrun itself. The Ford test driver said that, on acceleration, the rear wheels would try to overtake the front wheels, and even he had problems steering the vehicle. The Valiant charger isn't a chicken coop, it's a coupe? The Ford Landau, as big as it seemed from the outside, was cramped inside, especially for the rear passengers. When I remarked to my friend there was little room inside his Landau, he replied that his wife's '74 Toyota Celica had more interior space. At 178 cm, sitting in the rear, my head was touching the roof. In 1978, The federal government increased the fuel excise tax. Overnight, the price of 98 octane petrol increased from 14.5 cents per litre to 37.5 cents per litre, severely reducing the appeal of muscle cars. The one muscle car that isn't mentioned was the Leyland P76 Force 7, which tragically, was never put into full production. If I had more money than brains, I would love to own the 1971 Ford Falcon 351 Super Roo (in duck egg blue) and the Leyland P76 Force 7 (orange).
I used to live in NZ bk on the early 80's mine was a 65 Falcon 260cui v8 set up for the Mere mere drag races,my buddy Mike had a Holden Monaro that looked a bit Kitt ish a350 small block chivvy in it.Across the way we're old Bill dreadman and his Ho Falcon in purple OMG it was a real beast it looked like it was doing 140 Mph standing still yeah I had the magazine with the picture of the clocks at5,750 rpm at 140 mph.
I’m in Canada but USA is are neighbours so we get the same asides from a few different stuff , you guys gets the same with a little different body looks , well some of us drive on wrong side of the road , not sure who that is , LOL , but we have a lot in common , so for that reason I have to subscribe, well done keep the good work ❤
You need to audit your text-to-speech better. You had it pronounce the 2 letter model codes or trim specs as words. Also at one point it read V as a Roman numeral 5, saying one car has a five-eight engine. Text-to-speech is a tool, but you’ve got to monitor its output to prevent silly errors like that.
Yeah it was a bit down on facts and some of the other true muscle cars that dominated our streets. Torana XU1 in purple just to name one, as an Aussie I grew up in this amazing muscle car era and proud of it ! 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺👍😎
@@cozdm7264 thanks for the feed back. I’ve done a lot of home work for the next video it’s being released on Sunday. Please check I out and let me know if it’s better
Nice pics etc. and great taste of some of the Big three equivalent to the Big three in the States; ie. Monaro / Camaro, Falcon GT & Landau / Mustang & Thunderbird, Valiant Charger & Pacer / Dodge Charger, Dodge Challenger, Plymouth Barracuda
If you like Valiant Chargers and Havent seen an Australian Movie released in 1974 Called The Man From Hong Kong, you should try to find it and give it a watch. You'll probably like the car chase scene.....
the 1969 Valiant Pacer was not a 225 slant 6, it was a 254 hemi, I know, I had one. The 1971 GTHO III Falcon can now sell for well $1,000,000 now. Charger's and Monaro's were both made till 1980 You some how missed the 1979 Ford XC Falcon Cobra, not to be mixed up with the joke of a Cobra made in the US
Aussie Muscle Cars That Americans Were Afraid Off…?? When mopar had the 426 hemi’s , and Ford the 427 soch and Chevrolet with the L88…. I dont think so… 😄😄
To all you ladies having a bitch. Don't get ya panties in a twist. This bloke is starting a new channel. So far 15 vids in 2 months. I've got no issues with him leaving out your prejudicial favorites this time. I'm sure in the coming weeks he'll review them all. So just hold ya horses. Personally my friend, I liked the way you put this together. Plenty of shots I hadn't seen before. There are brand guys & there are CAR guys. True enthusiasts that love all the unique differences. Ignore the trolls. I'm looking forward to the torries, leyland etc... reviews you likely have planned. Cheers
The commentator said something about, if I heard it right, over 200 bhp out of a 225 cubic inch slant six? My Grandma had a 1964 Valiant with the 225 slant six, push button TorqueFlite auto, would have been some car with more than the standard 145 hp. But anyway, what killed Aussie auto designing and manufacturing? Incompetent governments and bureaucrats, decision makers in Dearborn and Detroit, shame on all..
I feel like the valiant Ute had that muscle look and they were lighter in the rear .. I love all of these and all the others you missed but if I had a choice I'd like another valiant Ute with the 318 .. my favorite for sure !!! You American's don't know what you are missing out on , These vehicles are epic!!! Built for the hot Dry rough Aussie outback highways... There a real treat just to drive let alone own .. Get one while you still have a chance , because there getting rear as hens teeth ... OH God I wanna nother one 🥺🙏
There is no need to be envious. Aussie muscle cars were produced for the specifics of that market. Ditto for American muscle cars. The title is another example of how the USA is the big bad wolf. When are people going to start appreciating specific models and countries for what they are and not as adversaries. Personally, i would love to have had the Aussie Chrysler 6 lineup offered in USA models. Imagine a 265 HP slant 6 in a 66 Valiant Signet coupe. Bucket seats console - 4 speed - handling package - and a Dana 60 with a 3:55 rear. THAT would have been a GREAT street fighter.
Holden are part of the GM stable like Geo and Pontiac and Saturn. Not so much part of the stable as hanging from meathooks in the building next to the stable.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 you are a flop , General Motors Holden are as much a part of GM as General Motors Chevrolet, are you serious, Holden built cars showing the US in the 1990 s to 2010s how it is supposed to be done , rear drive V8 cars , Holden the only GM brand outside the US to build a better pushrod V8 from 1969 to 1997 ..who else in GM did that ? You are a flop , really .
My dad had a charger; the thing was so powerful in a very light chassis/body it literally twisted. Dad had to have it straightened twice. I could barely see over the dash but when he floored it the nose lifted and all I could see was the sky
if you are going talk about aussie muscle cars be correct in what you say this is our motoring heritage and we grew up with these cars and the legends that drove them
i had 1970 monaro 350 with 2 speed power glide trans enjoyed the car but had few things to make your hair fall out bad front brakes was dics but three crash stops no more brakes .and back suspention uesed to whip upwards . note i was only 21 years old .iam in South Africa.
What about the Torana SLR/L34 5000 .That was one that escsped and avoided the supercar scare and what about the A9X as they deserve a place in Aussie musclecar history to that were missed out in that post
First Australian Muscle Car was the 1967 Ford Falcon GT , it filled the top 10 places at Bathurst in 1967 . Torana GTR -X was a Prototype that Holden used as a promotion Vehicle at Car Shows , it was never intended to be a Production Vehicle . Valiant Pacer used a 245 cubic inch Hemi engine NOT a Slant Six . Charger 770 used a detuned 340 V8 with Automatic , it was a luxury Car NOT a Muscle Car . The fast Charger was called Charger R/T E49 . I hardly think Americans would be afraid of Australian muscle Cars , Not 1 Australian muscle Car had a fire breathing Big Block engine , a 427 Corvette would eat a Phase 3 for lunch .
Charger 770 with a detuned 340. Not all of them. I once owned a VH 770 Plum Crazy with white vinyl top that had a factory 265. Seriously, with Chrysler, you could pretty well ask for any engine in the range and the chances of getting the ok was pretty good. There were a few odd combos getting around.
The VF Pacer (The first Pacer) had the 225 slant 6, The second Pacer the VG had the Hemi 245. The third Pacer the VH had the Hemi 265. Check your facts before opening your mouth @ChrisM-fz6xx
The 770 was the upmarket version with 318 v8...the hemi engined 6 cylinder version was not called the 770. The top of the line version with the 318 fireball engine was called the Regal 770.
@@JimGoose-hl4cx yep , you know the slant had a very long life as a motor , they even cast them in all alloy in the states in the 1960s , it's a rare motor the alloy one.
Charger sportsman never had the 340 V8, 340 was only in a special edition VH charger and that was killed off because of the super car scare. The sportsman was a short run styling package which took a lot of time to paint, it took 3 runs through paint booth to paint it. I know I had to paint the damn things.
I only watched the 1st few minutes, there was no mention of the reality that all 3 "muscle cars" got their muscle from American owned companies using american engines, transmissions and basic designs.
GT Falcons, as Moffat won with, always had bucket seats. But still slid around in the not very good bucket seats. All the outright winners from 1963 onwards had bucket seats and at least front disc brakes.
The first picture you show when discussing the HX LE Monaro is incorrect, the second picture is of the correct vehicle,it was only the end of the two door Body in Monaro production GMH went on to produce an HZ Monaro only available in four door as GMH were heavily involved with the Torana's for racing at Bathurst.
I don't like making negative comments, but there are far too many inaccuracies in this video, and the AI pronunciation is appalling. May I suggest that if you are going to make a video, at least research your subject matter properly, and proof your audio before publishing.
"What is the point" of using AI tech to do the speaking?? unless you don't speak english yourself but you are in the US so assume you speak english. Lots of stuff ups in this video as mentioned by others. These 60's/70's cars were slapped together on a budget to make them affordable to the general public (Versus say a 70's/80's Mercedes V8 coupe) and they rusted badly and handled pretty poor unless custom modified by the owners. I can remember being a young passenger in a Valiant going fast on country back roads and it was super sketchy (scary) as drove like a boat on wheels - haha.
@krh007 I'm in Australia and have driven most of the cars mentioned in the video, plus many of those mentioned in the comments. That's why I find the presentation so disappointing
I can remember pics of the Torana GTRX in hot rod magazine at home in Canada in the late sixties. It was thought, according to the caption then. it was to be called the holden arrow.
There is No Need to defend Aussie Cars.! If the Yanks were not "Afraid", they'd have nothing to say. Their words and comments betray them. They are unable to comprehend the "Australian Car Culture", from Muscle to Daily Drive. (Cleetus gets it. He came out here, and loved it.)
your not Australian and it shows in Australia the land of muscle cars didn't end in 1976, the only 2 you got right was the 1968 hk monaro, and the 1971 Ford falcon gtho, here are the muscle cars in Australia 1. the Holden's 1968 Monaro GTS HK 327 Bathurst, the 1970 HT /HG 350 GTS Monaro Bathurst , 1970 LC Torana XU-1, 1972 LJ Torana XU-1, 1972 HQ GTS Monaro 350, 1974 LH Torana SLR5000, 1976 SS Torana A9X, 1975 HJ/HX GTS Monaro, ill stop at 1977 2. Fords 1967 Falcon XR GT 289, 1967 Falcon XT GT 302, 1968 Falcon XW GT 351, 1970 XY GTHO 351, 1972 Falcon XA GT 351, 1974 Falcon XB GT, 1978 Falcon GT Cobra 351, Chrysler, 1967 Valiant VC VIP 273 V8, 1969 Valiant VF Pacer 225, 1970 Valiant Pacer E31/E34 245, 1971 Valiant Charger VH RT E55 340 /R/T E49 265 Track pack, 1971 Chrysler by Chrysler CH 360, 1973 Valiant Pacer VJ E37, 1973 Charger E49 265 E55 340, 1975 Valiant VK 360, 1975 Charger White Knight Special, every one of these models had lesser version which also fit into the Muscle car mantra so if your going to make videos about them do your homework and get it right, as I said muscle cars in Australia didn't end in 1977 as they built them for Holden and Ford right up to 2017 if an Aussie car guy seen your video they will call you out if its wrong to Australians the top 10 are 10, 1967 Falcon XT GT 302, 9. 1971 Valiant Charger VH RT E55 340, 8. 1972 HQ GTS Monaro 350, 7. 1972 LJ Torana XU-1, 6. 1970 HT /HG 350 GTS Monaro Bathurst, 5. 1974 LH Torana SLR5000, 4. 1976 SS Torana A9X Hatch, 3. 1968 Monaro GTS HK 327 Bathurst, 2. 1973 Charger E49 track pack, 1. 1970 Falcon XY GTHO 351 but Aussie love All their muscle cars from Holden Ford and Chrysler
one of the best things about the Monaro was the back seat my old HT model it was like a couch when you're a young bloke that's pretty handy nudge nudge wink wink
Too true, the Ford 351GT HO and the Holden Monaro HT 350 were the cars of the 1968 -1971 era you may have noticed them winning at Bathurst where only cars with a set number were allowed on the road, think it was 200 on the road before they could enter Bathurst ?
@@kenwilling6991 yes but the Vid was talking about the 245 HP Pacer which was the 245 Hemi model , they even showed the gard badge showing 245 Hemi . The 225 slant Pacer was only 175 HP the standard 225 was 160 . You talk Pacers you mean the real one with a 245 that changed everything. You don't talk Torana's and refer to the 1.1 litre 4 cylinder ! The vid was on Muscle cars not mum and dad slant six's .
I don't care what anyone says a Monaro should NEVER be a 4 door car.
absolutely, my first was a HK then a HQ and a CV8 a few years ago, i never recognised the 4 door as a monaro. as a side note, my cousin has a HG bathurst in his garage gathering dust, its probably worth more than the property its on even with the engine out waiting to be rebuilt, one day.
Hey Popeye, the 1st Holden to use the Monaro name was in fact the HR. In 1967 I had a PE teacher who bought a new late production HR with the 186S motor, 4 speed manual, disk brake front, centre console between the bucket seats with a Tacho mounted in it. It had Monaro badges on the rear pillar. The HK Monaro wasn't released until July 1968, probably for Bathurst. I have had a 289 XR Falcon & my mate owned an HT GTS 350 Monaro that I drive many time. It had a 4 speed Muncie, but I think it was originally an Auto as they only came in Auto with the 350ci. The HR was probably a trial run version as another friend had an EH Premier with a full factory gauge cluster extending over the centre front speaker, 4 speed auto, hatch thru to the fully carpeted boot via the arm rest cavity, side mounted spare wheel with a long range tank. Cheers Peter from Oz
@@petermurphy3354 Hi Peter I just checked on google and it said the HR Monaro was more a prototype than a production car
@@petermurphy3354 i've seen the HRs with X1 badges.
Well my HT 35 was a 2 door but I agree with your sentiments !
Aussie here, we love our Aussie muscle, as for it making the US look tame…. That’s a Hellava stretch.
Reality:
US muscle car factory claimed power outputs were total fiction. In most cases they were *much* lower than even the SAE gross figures which overstated output by around 30%. Tests on cars bought from dealers rarely achieved *anywhere* near the claimed performance. Road tests (with the exception of Road & Track) were totally unreliable.
Australian power outputs were often vastly higher than claimed for insurance purposes. eg The '228KW' GTHO Phase III actually produced over 280KW on a dyno. That is more than real output of most American big block engines.
For some perspective:
In 1967 Drag racing legend Don Arbutts drove his bog standard Mercedes 300SEL-6.3 sedan to a series of drag tracks across the US. Despite having a mere 185KW, an automatic and 1800Kg weight he managed to beat all comers. The *only* unmodified production car that ever beat him over a 1/4 mile was a much lighter Corvette 427 big block. [Arbutts also said his Mercedes was the only car that could be safely driven at over 100 mph.]
@@mrbrisvegas2 maybe for some manufacturers but there some that were under rated on paper like some of the old euro cars
Perhaps, but you folks rule when it comes to tricks for the Mopar slant-six. I see a few in vehicles at cruise-in's here that are producing surprising power and all the "goodies" on and in the engine, are "Aussiespeed". There's at least one vid on youtube with a slant six turbo making 370hp using aussiespeed add-ons and another with an aussiespeed supercharger on a slant six.
@@Thomas6Anderson yes, I’ve only ever been a v8 bloke, but the boys certainly got the old 265 humming, actually ford had a straight six Barra turbo after 2000 that’s been making some big numbers, quite a few motors are getting shipped to the states.
@@reubroper1427 DIN didn't come into use in the US until 1972. US manufacturers blamed 'pollution controls' when their claimed power outputs suddenly dropped by 30--40% overnight.
This is the worst Australian Muscle Car clip and commentary ive ever seen.Besides being technically inaccurate,it left out LC,LJ XU-1,LH SLR 5000,LX A9X Toranas,HT,HG 350 Monaro GTS,XW GT Phase 1 and 2,Chrysler E-49 Charger,Bolwell Nagari,even Leyland P76 Force 7.Not to mention later model Commodores and Falcons.Plus the good old 253/308/304 Australias V8.
Too true. One perspective that leaves out so many other influential and beloved models.
Technically inaccurate. I'd go further and say, factually incorrect.
A lot of the cars mentioned here were not muscle, how can a luxury car be a muscle,for a start they are too heavy,the luxury cars didn’t have the same engine as the muscle car,same engine block & that all, performance bits missing luxury cars had soft suspension &all the other garage etc 1/2 of the video was B/S they left out other muscle cars that are more important than the luxury cars they claimed were muscle cars
Love those old manaros
It's another AI RUclips video i'm over the shit already you can tell when it says 5 point 0 liter instead of 5 liter... Fuck off AI
This did leave me speechless. I hate text to speech these channels use.
Its even worse than that, its sloppy AI based crap.
And the music is shit!
@@KeithHeinrich when I grow up I wanna race at bath hurst.
@@ehtcom Jeremy Clarkson also called it “Barth Hurst”.
Also pronounced V8 as 5 8
The Monaro didn't start it in Australia it was the 67 Ford GT with a 225hp 289 Windsor same engine as the Mustang, also all our Aussie muscle cars had small blocks the US were not envious of us it was the other way around, still bloody great cars though.
Not all bro, our very last production Monaro briefly 'wore' a 427 alloy big-block too. So Brock did win 10 Bathursts, afterall! How many did Moffat and Johnson win? 🤔
Holden man here and I agree with you - the XR GT was what kicked off the domestic Ford vs GM war and what gave us these great cars.
@@davidlilja9180 yes Brock won 10 races at Bathurst but only won 9 of the 1000s. Also the 427 in those Garry Rogers Monaros was a larger bore/stroke version of the LS2 (6.0L) and thus technically a small block. But what a car and what a drive by Brock and team.
@@allworldmusic8270 well do you think Chrysler may of started the muscle car era with the first v8 in oz, I know they didn’t have a manual and they did come tenth at Bathurst behind the mini, if their were factory backed it could of been a different story!
@@JohnNaylor-n5r yes, ( I liked the VIP green with black vinyl roof )that doesn’t get noted very often. The XRGT was when the marketing war began though.
You could have mentioned some of the Toranas that actually made it to production, (SLR/5000, or A9-X or the GTR- XU1) they were well loved in their time and are still sought after by collectors.
You mentioned the '71 Valiant Charger 770 but not, the '71 RT Six Pack E37/E38 and the '72 E47/E48. Deserved a mention.
E 49 WAS THE REAL ONE
Some nice old cars there , but as others have mentioned, it was really the 66/67 XR falcon GT that was the beginning of the Aussie muscle car era , and you missed quite a few including the XT GT , XW GT , , Torana GTR , And XU1 models , the later V8 torana models , the 350 CI monaro models , just off the top of my head . Stoll quite a few cool old cars featured , brings back memories, thanks for posting.
I reckon the AP6 V8 kicked it off.
@@jayartz8562Correct. 273v8
@@jayartz8562 Correct. Chrysler was first of the Aussie 3 to offer a v8 in an Australian built car, that being the LA - 273 ci in the AP6.
Soo true those days are gone 😢
Seems the 1st Aussie built V8, AP6 Valiant is easily forgotten 🤷🏿♂️
If your talking muscle cars of that era, then where's the following cars?
Torana GTR XU1, Torana L34. and the undisputed king Torana A9X.
In future , just let Aussies talk about their cars.
You can focus on your American muscle.
Yeah he obviously hasn't done his research, musta had a piss up that night 😂
it's not bad, but he could of done a bit better
I suspect, this maybe AI
@@nickl2548ya think ?
@@robertmorris6529 Has this person replied back , with dialogue to anyone in the comments ?
The RPO option on the XAGT was to shift the parts that were meant for the canceled XA GTHO Phase 4
Agreed, rumor or has it that so many RPO parts were left over, that ford built them into their standard model base lines, XA,XB and the XC GXL, in order to get rid of the parts, Ford Australia never told the salesmen of the parts that went into those base models... I once physically seen an XC GXL, had a 351 with 4 bolt mains, enhanced Top Loader gearbox, and a differential not seen on the base models, the gearbox had the oversized oil sumpan ( the one with the side wings) and the whole kit went like a rocket sled on rails.
@@LogicalAspect1 A mate of mine had an XA GT RPO. The compliance plate said Falcon Special. The 351 4V Cleveland engine was built in Factory 5 or 7 (I think), had Crane roller rockers, solid lifters, Track 4 cam, 800cfm Holley, headers and a rediculous low ratio final drive. Printout from Ford reported misfires on cyl 5-LEAVE as it clears but develops exceptional power. This engine was brutal as it had all the gofast gear for Bathurst
@@marksimpson2689 the RPO was a good buy years back before people worked out what they were.
@LogicalAspect1 I've read up on it and yes it was to get rid of parts from the killed off Phase 4 program. There was to be a Phase 5 built using the XA coupe
I had a 1972 XA 2 door hardtop coup GT HO Phase 4. No. 8 of 24 according to the Compliance Plate.
A "barn find", I had it Authenticated by Ford Australia pty ltd, and BSS 1981 before I started the 9yr resto'.
My first 2 cars were an HK stock crashbox, 186 sedan, then an HG man ex-V8 sedan wearing GTS guards and bonnet, with a slightly moded 186, with 6 into 2 extractors, dual pipes, & a Premier grille & interior. I only recall my parents owing an FX, EH wagon, then an HQ wagon, before leaving the brand for a 200B wagon. So, I personally do have a soft spot for older ones.
Starting my mechanic's apprenticeship in 1980, for a Vic government department, I got to learn my craft on a wide-ranging fleet. That included many HX, HZ, & WBs, mainly as panel-vans. They remain the easiest vehicles I've ever maintained throughout my career.
I've spent over 15yrs with one of 2, Oz auto-clubs, as a breakdown mechanic; working on over 7,000 vehicles pa at my peak. Holdens of most types, that were at least partially designed in Oz, remained near the top of the list for ease of work by the roadside if needed, too.
The fact that I loved the production car racing of the day, as well as the F1 tech of that time, did encourage me to find out that both the HK & HG were still both safe enough to reach, or exceed, 160kph in the right conditions. The HG, with its moded interior, brakes, suspension , tyres/wheels & steering, was much more so.
Efficiency has become much more important to me over time. I've been driving an Oz built, 1996 Corolla auto hatch for many years now. Only its major failure, or a hybrid or electric vehicle, could temp me to consider changing for now.
Good cars can have a great lifespan, & remain environmentally justifiable, because so much energy has already been put into building them. A new car mean a new load of energy to build it & recycle the old one.
Cars of today are far more efficient, largely thanks to emissions rules. Motor racing, by manufacturers, has always offered the chance to test a vehicle's bounds in the real world, where we all expect to be safe whilst driving our often 2-tonne, plus potentially deadly, 160kph+ factory made machines.
I wish I didn't like the sound of a well-tuned ICE, with a suitable exhaust sound. An A9X crossing the Bathurst mountain top, surreal, back in the day; but I've never REALLY wanted to buy or own one. I've driven enough of other people's cars to know what I don't want to live with.
Build one myself, perhaps? 🤔 I last tried that, on a budget, with a Datsun 1200 wagon in the 80s. What a change! I was so glad I didn't bother going above 1400cc. I learned enough about mixing a very light weight with just a 15-25% power increase, to not need to do it ever again!
My well-imagined 'dream' car would have been a .......but they don't make Holdens anymore.
As an American I want to talk trash at this video but it just wouldn't feel right. Those were some damn fine cars.
The video is garbage...
The Torana in all forms should be shown - from around Australia in the 4-cyl setting endurance and reliability records off-road!, the GTR big six and the XU-1, the SLR and the A9X! I had a VB SLE with a 257 cu-in which could and did beat the largest Chryslers! The Leyland Force 7 should be mentioned too! Maybe even the Targa Florio - a boot big enough to land a helicopter in it! (ok - it was only a KH-4 but it can be done!).
What a load of rubbish. Technically and substantially inaccurate. Americans were never worried about our muscle cars if they even knew about them. Most Australians drove 6 cylinder cars but aspired for the small block V8 powered cars available from our manufacturers here. That’s never going to scare the big block weapons available to U.S. car buyers. I’m Australian and love our muscle cars but they were inspired by American cars with our own spin on them which usually meant they weren’t as powerful but generally handled a bit better than most of the U.S. offerings due to our style of racing.
Keep in mind that if it has a big block & drum brakes it can only do the 1/4 mile. And unfortunately most American Muscle Cars of the 60s & 70s fit that description, except for the introduction of disk brakes as standard equipment in the 70s due to the carnage...
I agree the yanks didnt give a rats about our muscle cars
I had a '69 HT Monaro. Sold it in 2000 for $2k, biggest mistake of my life 😢
Dont worry mate a lot of us had similar mistakes, myself I sold my 77 Torana SS for under 4k I guess back then it was just another car.
Thats a shame mate , i had a couple of mates with early monaros , they actually drove quite nice too i think , but a lot of the old cars where great cruisers .
Yes a lot of us have some regrets , if only we knew then what we know now ]:
i remember going to the back street drags as a young bloke many times , one particular night there was a lovely black very warmed up 327 monaro whizzing dowm the strip/road , and he snapped the tailshaft at speed , the tailshaft dug in , either that or he broke the shaft and ran it over , it was amazing to see and it sent the ass end up in the air with masses of sparks ,car bouncing down the road , it was like a movie scene , he managed to keep it on the road , and park it up , and walked back up to the unofficial starting line , the poor barsted was white as a sheet :) .
@@mikldude9376 Mine was all original with the iron lion 253 v8. The engine had been fully reco'd and it was my first car. I paid $5k for it in 1986 from an old mechanic in the bush and drove the wheels off it for 6 years. Moved to Vic which had much tougher roadworthy rules, the indicator lenses were crazed, there was a tear in the roof liner, seats were cracked under the seat covers etc. I was poor but I could get a lease car through work so it went on blocks for years. Mrs got the shits about it in the backyard, I was always intending to restore it but work, kids etc. Got an offer from a family friend for $1k, I upped it to $2. Now you can't find a wreck for under $20k..
I did the exact same thing. That was only one of my Auto mistakes, and there's been many!
Im still crying that i traded my L34 in for a XF falcon because we needed a family car
I miss the days when Australia had its own car making industry.
I didn’t know David Attenborough was a rev head
Its a rip off on his voice by de bags like the creator of this video...
We were ALL AFRAID of them ..they were uncontrollable in wet weather..live axles no LSD xply tyres and drum brakes on most ..be afraid be very afraid !!!
Steering, brakes and suspension straight off an 1850s Cobb & Co mail coach.
Obviousy you never owned one, let alone have driven one.
Try and keep your judgement within the context of the day and aportion any blame to the nut behind the wheel.
I owned a few of them and was never AFRAID of any of them. I explored their limits, and stayed within them. Anything will bite you if you mistreat it. Even a loaded rifle is safe if pointed in the right direction with your finger off the trigger.
Hysterics by a few self-serving Motoring Journalists of the day is what killed off what could have been, and enthusiasts were cheated.
Imagine an LT1 powered Monaro with 4 wheel discs and a 340 manual Charger. World class weapons. Ford was trying so hard but only had a taxi chassis to work with.
You can only describe these cars this way if you can not drive, or you under 35.
Um I think you need to remember some of the graphic photos of road accidents in the newspapers at the time. That’s what killed them off.
Yes you are correct in the fact that we can’t measure them against modern standards, but their brakes, suspension, steering etc were not even in keeping with what high performance stuff was coming in from Europe or what soon would come from Japan.
@@boo5877 well have to say I’m well above 35 and have had a hell of a lot of driver training and experience! The problem was they were great in the hands of an experienced & trained driver, but not in the hands of a normal person. Of course there were always the exceptions, but there weren’t many or they didn’t live long! Cheers
I think you will find the Charger Sportsman was equipped with a 265 six cylinder.
That was one option , so was 318 , but 340 was the top option
245 or 4.0 litre was the standard Sportsman in 1974-5
@@garysouthwell5762 yes , then 318, 360 and top was 340 option .
1965 Chrysler Valiant had first V8, Ford Falcon XR GT 289 V8 in 1967 then Holden Monaro GTS 327 1968, 😁
The good ol 273.
Aussie here. My old man had an Austin Lancer/Morris Major that he put a 2 stroke diesel engine into out of a small truck. He reckons that was a common performance mod for a lot of different cars of the 50's in his town.
In the 90's the old man (who had his own diesel/car mechanic business) tricked out my 4 door LJ Torana. He took the 202 out and replaced it with a 186S block bored out to 208, yella terra heads, roller rockers, crow cam, forgot the piston and conrod and crankshaft brands, twin Stromberg carburettors, some how connected to an auto transmission out of a V8 VP commodore highway police pursuit car and a 3.08 LSD diff. Then engine was balanced. The old man reckons he made the car so it had power all through the power curve unlike a few of my mates and there mates Monaros, Toranas and Falcons that he reckoned had car set ups which only had power in the top end of the power curve and above 100km/h and were shit to drive around town in
We also put 5 slot mags on it, put a rear facing air intake scoop on the bonnet, painted the car the original purple colour with the golden side stripe, nolathane bushes, Monroe shock absorbers and got the interior reupholstered and put a new Kenwood stereo and speakers in it.
I was never really into the muscle cars scene ( i like trucks and bikes) and crowd myself, but that 4 door LJ Torana was a dream to drive.
I had an Austin Lancer as a Paddock Basher. It was probably the 2nd best basher I had behind a Datsun 1000.
Agree with previous comments that it was the 66/67 XR Falcon GT with the 289 ci V8 that kicked off the Aussie Muscle car era. Perhaps also give a nod to the 64 Holden EH sedan with the performance option.
Still got may XR GT, ain’t no rocket by todays standards but still very cool to cruise in.
Yea that was the EH X2 model . twin Carbs, had one before I bought my first Monaro (327 )
@@capnfrankly I really like the HK Monaros.
Then Chrysler bought out the 273, that car gave Holden and Ford a bit of curry in1967.
The 1970s Falcon XY GT was also sold in South Africa as the Ford Fairmont GT. South Africa had a lot of "muscle cars" that were only ever sold here, like the 5L V8 capri's, 5L V8 Firenza CAN AM's, the V8 grenada's, the V6 Cortina's, the V8 Sierra's and lots of other special versions of cars...
The gtho, was not the quickest 4 door. Mercedes did a more beastly beast, it turns out. (A 350 monaro, was flipped, on a downhill in my town..troubled bit of road, that one, considering how straight it was..).
More corrections! "VJ Charger Sportsman (option A23) In August 1974, a limited edition Charger Sportsman was released, based upon the Charger XL. Built to a quantity of 500 units, all Sportsman cars were painted an exclusive combination of Vintage Red and white, with a combination black and white interior featuring specific cloth trim. These cars were powered by the standard 265ci engine and four speed manual transmission." "VJ Charger 770 (with option E55) When specified with the E55 340ci V8 engine option, such VJ-series cars were no longer tagged as a special edition Charger 770 "SE"."
They even had a White Knight as a Sportsman FFS.
Although locally adapted, Falcons were US designed until the XD arrived.
Seeing a left-hand drive, US located, XC GXL wagon variant, confirmed that for me.
THAT WAS RATHER EXCITING !!! 😲 Thankyou for bringing back some great Memories 😢
When I was 21 and stupid, I bought a new Monaro GTS 253 off the showroom floor; it was a run-out of the HG series - the HQ was already on sale.
Unfortunately, my Monaro must have been built on a Friday: it rapidly fell apart. The dealer wasn't the least bit interested in doing repairs under warranty, and at 8,000 miles on the clock I returned it to the dealership emblazoned with "lemon" written in toothpaste (really bad for the metallic paint!). Of the 75 cars I've owned, that Monaro was by far the greatest disappointment.
After that I turned to European cars.
You probably wish you had it now though. $$$
I love Holden but never 253
That pacer they are showing is a VG which had a 245 Hemi engine. The previous model, the VF had the 225 slant 6
Then the VH Pacer came out with the 265, or optional E37, one E38 4speed, E48 and one E49.
When I was young and reckless I Had a 1984 Ford Fairlane with a tuned 351 Cleveland V8. That car was heavy as fuck but that engine picked it up like it was nothing. This was when everyone my age were into Japanese cars and turbos and whatnot, I never lost a drag race at the traffic lights against any of those, that instant torque a big V8 gives you is more addictive than crack lol!
My first car in 1981 was a 1969 HT Monaro GTS for AUD$2000, 2 months before I could get my licence. Would sit in it, in the garage, sometimes start the motor, while waiting to drive it. Was a long 2 months. Sold it for the same amount 3 years later. Best times with that car. Now worth about $250,000. Bugger.
I would have liked to see mention of the Ford XA GT-HO Phase 4 Falcon which was actually banned from production. I do note that the RPO83 was essentially the Phase 4 as parts needed to be used but it would have been nice to hear how that came to be.
Missed a few in this video , no xu1, no e38 charger,no e49 charger , but mentions the landu , and no Xr or xx gt either , just goes to show when someone from another country does a video on Ozzie muscle cars lol
Best looking I think are the E38 and E49 big tank Chargers well done aussies
You missed out Australia's fastest muscle car. The W557 GTS Walkinshaw (and the far more common but still exceptionally rare) W427 GTS Walkinshaw. Being modern cars they might be out of scope. But they are the pinnacle of Aussie Muscle.
Or for the classic "muscle car" era the Bolwell Nagari (when equipped with the V8 351 Cleveland) would be the fastest. A significant reduction of the weight of the Phase III but all the power depending on the engine spec. These things were utter beasts but being a low volume manufacturer they never got the credit they deserved.
Leaving out the XU1-GTR and A9X Torana SS was also a bad choice.
The 770 Charger had the options of a 265 6 cyl, 318 v8, and 340 E55 which was a lower performance engine than the 265 Hemi in E38 or E49 form. While the E55 might have had the potential for more horsepower the extra weight of the v8 made them slower around the track so the E55 wasn't the weapon of choice for racing.
You guys realize that 351(C) means Cleveland, which is a city famously known to be in the US, in the state of Ohio. That's where your "Australian" 351C started out. Thank you Canada, for Locating Windsor right across the river from Detroit, so we could build our Small block V8s at a discounted labor rate there!
And the 351W was the best V8 ford made, but not the fastest. I had over half a million miles on mine before I had to rebuild it for the first time. And that is which it powering my Ford cargo van with a 4 speed manual trans. Yes we used to make good things in the US...
@@davidhollenshead4892 Now you just take Orders from Communists.
No shit!
At this point i dont know what to say anymore, i cant express how much i love these australian muscle cars in australia. Good old falcon, kingswood, monaro they always have very good sounds and looks i love these cars. Dont forget the old school toranas and the new the FPV and the HSV but i love the old school better.
The Monaro is named after the Monaro Plateau, where Australia's capital city is located. When at Fairbairn Air Base, discovered that Canberra is the rev-head capital of Australia.
The Falcon XY GT Super Roo with the 351 V8 before transmission modification, could also outrun itself.
The Ford test driver said that, on acceleration, the rear wheels would try to overtake the front wheels, and even he had problems steering the vehicle.
The Valiant charger isn't a chicken coop, it's a coupe? The Ford Landau, as big as it seemed from the outside, was cramped inside, especially for the rear passengers.
When I remarked to my friend there was little room inside his Landau, he replied that his wife's '74 Toyota Celica had more interior space.
At 178 cm, sitting in the rear, my head was touching the roof. In 1978, The federal government increased the fuel excise tax.
Overnight, the price of 98 octane petrol increased from 14.5 cents per litre to 37.5 cents per litre, severely reducing the appeal of muscle cars.
The one muscle car that isn't mentioned was the Leyland P76 Force 7, which tragically, was never put into full production.
If I had more money than brains, I would love to own the 1971 Ford Falcon 351 Super Roo (in duck egg blue) and the Leyland P76 Force 7 (orange).
I used to live in NZ bk on the early 80's mine was a 65 Falcon 260cui v8 set up for the Mere mere drag races,my buddy Mike had a Holden Monaro that looked a bit Kitt ish a350 small block chivvy in it.Across the way we're old Bill dreadman and his Ho Falcon in purple OMG it was a real beast it looked like it was doing 140
Mph standing still yeah I had the magazine with the picture of the clocks at5,750 rpm at 140 mph.
You forgot the Xr 66 falcon Gt . Must be a Holden man
I’m in Canada but USA is are neighbours so we get the same asides from a few different stuff , you guys gets the same with a little different body looks , well some of us drive on wrong side of the road , not sure who that is , LOL , but we have a lot in common , so for that reason I have to subscribe, well done keep the good work ❤
Aussie here, we love our Aussie muscle, as for it making the US look tame…. That’s a Hellava stretch.
We may drive on the wrong side of the road, but the steering wheels on our cars are on the right side! LOL G
You need to audit your text-to-speech better. You had it pronounce the 2 letter model codes or trim specs as words. Also at one point it read V as a Roman numeral 5, saying one car has a five-eight engine. Text-to-speech is a tool, but you’ve got to monitor its output to prevent silly errors like that.
Or, and here's a radical idea, use a real live person.
Some cool cars, but how many Americans ever saw one?
Yeah it was a bit down on facts and some of the other true muscle cars that dominated our streets. Torana XU1 in purple just to name one, as an Aussie I grew up in this amazing muscle car era and proud of it ! 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺👍😎
This needs more home work. missing the XU1, SLR, and the Monaro was not finished at the HX
@@cozdm7264 thanks for the feed back. I’ve done a lot of home work for the next video it’s being released on Sunday. Please check I out and let me know if it’s better
Nice pics etc. and great taste of some of the Big three equivalent to the Big three in the States; ie. Monaro / Camaro, Falcon GT & Landau / Mustang & Thunderbird, Valiant Charger & Pacer / Dodge Charger, Dodge Challenger, Plymouth Barracuda
If you like Valiant Chargers and Havent seen an Australian Movie released in 1974 Called The Man From Hong Kong, you should try to find it and give it a watch. You'll probably like the car chase scene.....
I’ll check it out🤙
@@AmericanPatriots-r2c No you won't. You're a Bot.
Shocking AI Voice !
I wanted to get a Charger as my first car my dad was "don't be stupid you'll die on the first corner as it doesn't make the turn"
You Dad didn't know much did he.
the 1969 Valiant Pacer was not a 225 slant 6, it was a 254 hemi, I know, I had one.
The 1971 GTHO III Falcon can now sell for well $1,000,000 now.
Charger's and Monaro's were both made till 1980
You some how missed the 1979 Ford XC Falcon Cobra, not to be mixed up with the joke of a Cobra made in the US
1969 was the 225 VF Pacer, The VG was the 245 Hemi. The VH was the 265.
The XA GT Coupe was the meanest looking of the lot. The Landau was just a pimped version of that.
Aussie Muscle Cars That Americans Were Afraid Off…?? When mopar had the 426 hemi’s , and Ford the 427 soch and Chevrolet with the L88…. I dont think so… 😄😄
The Aussie cars mostly have American powertrains anyway.
@@Ilikeryche Not the Aussie Mopars.
@@OldCaravans What do they have?
These cars bring back memories when i lived in Sydney.
To all you ladies having a bitch. Don't get ya panties in a twist. This bloke is starting a new channel. So far 15 vids in 2 months. I've got no issues with him leaving out your prejudicial favorites this time. I'm sure in the coming weeks he'll review them all. So just hold ya horses.
Personally my friend, I liked the way you put this together. Plenty of shots I hadn't seen before.
There are brand guys & there are CAR guys. True enthusiasts that love all the unique differences. Ignore the trolls. I'm looking forward to the torries, leyland etc... reviews you likely have planned. Cheers
So many wrong facts here. Or wrong cars shown.
@@greenhouse3505 Thanks mate:)
@@greenhouse3505 get the facts right.obviously did bugger all research.literally half the information was incorrect.if youre gonna do it,do it right.
Yeah I don't know why people run these vids down, it was one of the most accurate I've seen .
@@johnperry1334yeah not really , pretty much spot on , it's hard to find pics so you got to let go on stuff most people don't even know about .
The big falcon 351ci coupes take the gong as being the best of the bunch in terms of a muscle car - stance/grunt/shape/interior/wheels etc.
The falcon coupes were in the 70s XA, XB, and XC Coupes.
@@AnimalBoss429 👍
The commentator said something about, if I heard it right, over 200 bhp out of a 225 cubic inch slant six? My Grandma had a 1964 Valiant with the 225 slant six, push button TorqueFlite auto, would have been some car with more than the standard 145 hp. But anyway, what killed Aussie auto designing and manufacturing? Incompetent governments and bureaucrats, decision makers in Dearborn and Detroit, shame on all..
Chrysler bigwigs in the USofA decided to sponsor golf instead of motor racing, the killed Chrysler in Oz.
I feel like the valiant Ute had that muscle look and they were lighter in the rear .. I love all of these and all the others you missed but if I had a choice I'd like another valiant Ute with the 318 .. my favorite for sure !!! You American's don't know what you are missing out on , These vehicles are epic!!! Built for the hot Dry rough Aussie outback highways... There a real treat just to drive let alone own .. Get one while you still have a chance , because there getting rear as hens teeth ... OH God I wanna nother one 🥺🙏
There is no need to be envious. Aussie muscle cars were produced for the specifics of that market. Ditto for American muscle cars. The title is another example of how the USA is the big bad wolf. When are people going to start appreciating specific models and countries for what they are and not as adversaries. Personally, i would love to have had the Aussie Chrysler 6 lineup offered in USA models. Imagine a 265 HP slant 6 in a 66 Valiant Signet coupe. Bucket seats console - 4 speed - handling package - and a Dana 60 with a 3:55 rear. THAT would have been a GREAT street fighter.
Lots of cars 'down under' have been 4 doors.
In Australia, Holden is GM and Ford is Ford.
owned a 351XB GS coupe, I swap that for my Mercedes SL500 coupe right now, miss that car, could take a thrashing all day
It should be remembered that Holden were or possibly still are part of the GM stable
There is no more Holden , and it was for all it's life bar a few years General Motors Holden.
Holden are part of the GM stable like Geo and Pontiac and Saturn. Not so much part of the stable as hanging from meathooks in the building next to the stable.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 you are a flop , General Motors Holden are as much a part of GM as General Motors Chevrolet, are you serious, Holden built cars showing the US in the 1990 s to 2010s how it is supposed to be done , rear drive V8 cars , Holden the only GM brand outside the US to build a better pushrod V8 from 1969 to 1997 ..who else in GM did that ? You are a flop , really .
My dad had a charger; the thing was so powerful in a very light chassis/body it literally twisted. Dad had to have it straightened twice. I could barely see over the dash but when he floored it the nose lifted and all I could see was the sky
if you are going talk about aussie muscle cars be correct in what you say this is our motoring heritage and we grew up with these cars and the legends that drove them
The Torana gtr x was inspired by the fiat 850 sport coupe.
You missed one of the greatest muscle cars in Australia the Holden Torana XU-1 & the SLR 5000
i had 1970 monaro 350 with 2 speed power glide trans enjoyed the car but had few things to make your hair fall out bad front brakes was dics but three crash stops no more brakes .and back suspention uesed to whip upwards . note i was only 21 years old .iam in South Africa.
What about the Torana SLR/L34 5000 .That was one that escsped and avoided the supercar scare and what about the A9X as they deserve a place in Aussie musclecar history to that were missed out in that post
First Australian Muscle Car was the 1967 Ford Falcon GT , it filled the top 10 places at Bathurst in 1967 . Torana GTR -X was a Prototype that Holden used as a promotion Vehicle at Car Shows , it was never intended to be a Production Vehicle . Valiant Pacer used a 245 cubic inch Hemi engine NOT a Slant Six . Charger 770 used a detuned 340 V8 with Automatic , it was a luxury Car NOT a Muscle Car . The fast Charger was called Charger R/T E49 . I hardly think Americans would be afraid of Australian muscle Cars , Not 1 Australian muscle Car had a fire breathing Big Block engine , a 427 Corvette would eat a Phase 3 for lunch .
Charger 770 with a detuned 340. Not all of them. I once owned a VH 770 Plum Crazy with white vinyl top that had a factory 265. Seriously, with Chrysler, you could pretty well ask for any engine in the range and the chances of getting the ok was pretty good. There were a few odd combos getting around.
The VF Pacer (The first Pacer) had the 225 slant 6, The second Pacer the VG had the Hemi 245. The third Pacer the VH had the Hemi 265. Check your facts before opening your mouth
@ChrisM-fz6xx
The 770 was the upmarket version with 318 v8...the hemi engined 6 cylinder version was not called the 770. The top of the line version with the 318 fireball engine was called the Regal 770.
Hilarious the commentater say pacer has a 225 ci slant six but the vid has a v8 under the hood😂😂😂😂😂
And the pacer model had a 245 Hemi , it's even on one shot of the gard .
@@JosephCowen-fz8vj en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Hemi-6_Engine
@@uforferdetnilsson2595 yeah I know what a Hemi Six is . The 245 Hemi Pacer was the first use of the Hemi .
@@JosephCowen-fz8vj yes the vg did have a 245 . I had a vg pacer and put a 245 in it.. someone had put a x speedway slant in mine..
@@JimGoose-hl4cx yep , you know the slant had a very long life as a motor , they even cast them in all alloy in the states in the 1960s , it's a rare motor the alloy one.
Charger sportsman never had the 340 V8, 340 was only in a special edition VH charger and that was killed off because of the super car scare. The sportsman was a short run styling package which took a lot of time to paint, it took 3 runs through paint booth to paint it. I know I had to paint the damn things.
How could leave the XU-1 Torana out of this, seriously.
Also as an American I duno what cars are missing from this list so the video was just fine in my eyes.
I only watched the 1st few minutes, there was no mention of the reality that all 3 "muscle cars" got their muscle from American owned companies using american engines, transmissions and basic designs.
What you want a medal?
The GTRX had worm and ball steering instead of rack and pinion. Not exactly forward thinking and a step backwards from the LJ.
Terrible ai generated generic narration. Can't do it.
Remember watching Moffats victory , bench seats, single driver incredible performance.
GT Falcons, as Moffat won with, always had bucket seats.
But still slid around in the not very good bucket seats.
All the outright winners from 1963 onwards had bucket seats and at least front disc brakes.
1973 Pontiac Trans Am , King of ALL
Torana xu1 and torana lx ss smoke pontiacs and eat them for breakfast
So much of this is ill-informed nonsense. Take with a big grain of salt.
Really, it was pretty much spot on .
The 1968monaro was holden's response to the 1967 XR GT falcon
The first picture you show when discussing the HX LE Monaro is incorrect, the second picture is of the correct vehicle,it was only the end of the two door Body in Monaro production GMH went on to produce an HZ Monaro only available in four door as GMH were heavily involved with the Torana's for racing at Bathurst.
Missed the most important car ever... The Foot Falcon for those who wanted a cheaper option 😛
GTR XU-1 Torana. The giant killer. Missing?
@@Scuffed_Andy check out this Sundays video we’ve done more research!
All the motors and gearboxes are American. In an Australian car that are scaled down designs of U.S.A muscle cars
Nothing like seppo designed cars!
It would be a good idea to do more thorough research before you showcase your lack of knowledge.
Not afraid love them.
is the audio fucked for anyone else?
yes
Total thumbs down garbage...
Nup, totally good.
And HSV and CLUBSPORT > I have a Rare HSV VZ Clubsport Wagon , It's Pure Joy to Drive
I don't like making negative comments, but there are far too many inaccuracies in this video, and the AI pronunciation is appalling. May I suggest that if you are going to make a video, at least research your subject matter properly, and proof your audio before publishing.
"What is the point" of using AI tech to do the speaking?? unless you don't speak english yourself but you are in the US so assume you speak english. Lots of stuff ups in this video as mentioned by others. These 60's/70's cars were slapped together on a budget to make them affordable to the general public (Versus say a 70's/80's Mercedes V8 coupe) and they rusted badly and handled pretty poor unless custom modified by the owners. I can remember being a young passenger in a Valiant going fast on country back roads and it was super sketchy (scary) as drove like a boat on wheels - haha.
@krh007 I'm in Australia and have driven most of the cars mentioned in the video, plus many of those mentioned in the comments. That's why I find the presentation so disappointing
Errr the XRGT Falcon was before the GTS
Yeah of course, nothing worse than a pom who can't pronounce our words correctly, 😂
@Oissir Non-human voice . Sounds better than fake American !
I can remember pics of the Torana GTRX in hot rod magazine at home in Canada in the late sixties. It was thought, according to the caption then. it was to be called the holden arrow.
This vid PROVES that Poms know nothing about muscle cars, let alone Aussie ones..
There is No Need to defend Aussie Cars.!
If the Yanks were not "Afraid", they'd have nothing to say. Their words and comments betray them.
They are unable to comprehend the "Australian Car Culture", from Muscle to Daily Drive.
(Cleetus gets it. He came out here, and loved it.)
your not Australian and it shows in Australia the land of muscle cars didn't end in 1976, the only 2 you got right was the 1968 hk monaro, and the 1971 Ford falcon gtho, here are the muscle cars in Australia 1. the Holden's 1968 Monaro GTS HK 327 Bathurst, the 1970 HT /HG 350 GTS Monaro Bathurst , 1970 LC Torana XU-1, 1972 LJ Torana XU-1, 1972 HQ GTS Monaro 350, 1974 LH Torana SLR5000, 1976 SS Torana A9X, 1975 HJ/HX GTS Monaro, ill stop at 1977 2. Fords 1967 Falcon XR GT 289, 1967 Falcon XT GT 302, 1968 Falcon XW GT 351, 1970 XY GTHO 351, 1972 Falcon XA GT 351, 1974 Falcon XB GT, 1978 Falcon GT Cobra 351, Chrysler, 1967 Valiant VC VIP 273 V8, 1969 Valiant VF Pacer 225, 1970 Valiant Pacer E31/E34 245, 1971 Valiant Charger VH RT E55 340 /R/T E49 265 Track pack, 1971 Chrysler by Chrysler CH 360, 1973 Valiant Pacer VJ E37, 1973 Charger E49 265 E55 340, 1975 Valiant VK 360, 1975 Charger White Knight Special, every one of these models had lesser version which also fit into the Muscle car mantra so if your going to make videos about them do your homework and get it right, as I said muscle cars in Australia didn't end in 1977 as they built them for Holden and Ford right up to 2017 if an Aussie car guy seen your video they will call you out if its wrong
to Australians the top 10 are 10, 1967 Falcon XT GT 302, 9. 1971 Valiant Charger VH RT E55 340, 8. 1972 HQ GTS Monaro 350, 7. 1972 LJ Torana XU-1, 6. 1970 HT /HG 350 GTS Monaro Bathurst, 5. 1974 LH Torana SLR5000, 4. 1976 SS Torana A9X Hatch, 3. 1968 Monaro GTS HK 327 Bathurst, 2. 1973 Charger E49 track pack, 1. 1970 Falcon XY GTHO 351 but Aussie love All their muscle cars from Holden Ford and Chrysler
one of the best things about the Monaro was the back seat my old HT model it was like a couch when you're a young bloke that's pretty handy nudge nudge wink wink
None! No real American is afraid of anyones' muscle cars.
I don't think you know Australian muscle cars, in 1967 the Ford Falcon XR GT was the V8 that changed the game in Australia. Ford Landau, WTF?
Too true, the Ford 351GT HO and the Holden Monaro HT 350 were the cars of the 1968 -1971 era you may have noticed them winning at Bathurst where only cars with a set number were
allowed on the road, think it was 200 on the road before they could enter Bathurst ?
The Phase 3 became the FASTEST production car in the world.
Fastestes Four door production car for a while.
The slant 6 valiant pacer didn't have 245hp that decal was from the 245 ci straight 6
Can't watch the entire thing.
Me either
Yeah the Valiant Pacer did not use the old chrysler slant six, it used the 245 ci Hemi Six!
Wrong. First pacer was VF slant 6. The next model VG pacers came out with 245 hemis.
@@kenwilling6991 yes but the Vid was talking about the 245 HP Pacer which was the 245 Hemi model , they even showed the gard badge showing 245 Hemi . The 225 slant Pacer was only 175 HP the standard 225 was 160 . You talk Pacers you mean the real one with a 245 that changed everything. You don't talk Torana's and refer to the 1.1 litre 4 cylinder ! The vid was on Muscle cars not mum and dad slant six's .
We know.. We are Australian