Genuine Bloke or Disingenuous Tw🌲t? (feat. Noel Plum) - (Ken) Ham & AiG News
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Ken Ham and his team have a bi-weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
Noel Plum and I join Ken Ham, Dr. Georgia Purdom, and Bodie Hodge as they discuss parents angered after Planned Parenthood partner leads "graphic" sex-ed lesson in science class, Arizona’s schools chief seeks limits on teaching evolution, and more in this episode of Answers News hosted in front of a live audience at the Creation Museum.
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I know if I show my wife the thumbnail she will misunderstand it and say "that's easy, your a disingenuous twat!" :-)
Noel Plum you’re
Lol
Noel Plum Paul captured your forhead creases perfectly! Glad to hear you shit on creationists again finally.
Word for the day is
*P O S S E S S I V E*
I'm arguing with same kind of people in the Star Trek community, totalitarian "Crack Hitler"/"Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2" fundamentalist types.
#MakeKlingonGreatAgain
Was it not a creationism comedy tour by some US wanker ?
I used to think that Ken Ham was just deluded - but now I am convinced he knowingly lies about a great number of things.
I think he's repeated it so often that for him (possibly due to senility) it has become the truth...
I was 'homeschooled' by a mother who took me out of 1st grade because one of the books we read had a fortune teller ("witchcraft") in it. She was/is obsessed with the Rapture, made Bible school at least half the day's time, and when I had a hard time with math, she pushed harder & harder & punished me until I was having panic attacks every day. She even threatened to call the cops once when I was too sick to get out of bed!
It's good to know I'm now vastly more educated than she ever will be, because I've spent 5yrs on my atheist/secular education...
Thanks for sharing, stay strong. Btw. Have you seen "Fanny and Alexander" by ingmar bergmann? There some haunting parallels to your story.
Bernice Panders - sorry to hear your insane upbringing. I wasn't forced in religion but had father / mother / stepfather that threatened jail or juvenile hall for not being like they demanded!!! All 3 died recently and I know that they can never affect or interfere with me again. They all 3 had me jailed over the years for lies and as a juvenile, back then, parents could do anything they wanted cuz there wasn't real child abuse laws unless you were boiled in oil.
When you wrote that ur mom threatened to call police I got sick inside and it's many decades since they had the power ... step father was a cop. They successfully put me in juvy 3 times as minor. Father got me arrested for a lie of being served a restraining order ... then came to court with the evidence of a torn up copy that was a xerox copy, and not in chain of command, the judge ordered the courtroom emptied and promised that he would personally see that my father was charged with falsifying evidence. Somehow that judge was over ruled even when my fingerprints were not on his evidense, but the case was thrown out eventually. We barely spoke for the last 20+ years of his life. I have no criminal record except what my parents tried as juvenile.
Bernice, I'm sorry to hear about your childhood... I truly understand exactly what you are talking about... Except my family entered the cult before my schooling began.
Initially, I was in the cults school but by grade 4, the school & I mutually agreed that I never darken their doors again. I snapped 1 day during religious class, became an atheist & started screaming/cursing all things God.
Then my parents tried to home school us but it was all kind of f'ed up. Eventually they tried all the other Christian schools within reach but those schools hated me even more (sadly I was not even the most hated at all the schools, I'll never forget the kid who got pregnant & was forced to personally apologize to everyone in the school {sic} or the poor kids of color) then the 1st school...
Then they tried home schooling again before the school board finally stepped in & demanded I be enrolled in real school but by then so much damage had already been done. I was still an atheist, the family /cult was still convinced I was possessed & continuing to exorcize their imaginary demons (pesky demons never went) away:) from me...
I already cultured the habit of running away & hiding from their crazier episodes when I got wind they were getting ready to kidnap me & take me over international borders to a cult re-education center in whatever nation... So I took off & never stopped running until they could no longer control the adult me.
These people need to be stopped! I don't really care what they whine about, kids have an innate human right to be properly educated, so as to be successful in their futures. Parents however do not have the right or authority to abdicate, harm or allow anything to interfere with the kids rights. Indeed 1 of the parents /guardian jobs is to protect & enforce the kids rights.
Alright, if someone wants to home school or privately educated their kids, fine; BUT, all schools must meet the common standards & requirements that apply to all schools. Also, stop all tax credits for alternative schools not required for legit needs & condense all school streams into a single public school system for all. Require all older students to attend religious education classes that educate them about all relevant religious stuff, just like in science you teach all the relevant science stuff. Parents are welcome to provide any additional educational resources in whatever areas they see fit but that is outside of the public school system.
We simply can't afford to have a fragmented & duplicated school system; we are just failing all the kids. Realistically, I could have been an indisputable genius but because of the damage that religion did to me, I'm a pale specter of what I might have been.
How can any trust them to educate any kids when they state they are intractably opposed to basic free or critical thinking & seek only to indoctrinate everyone into returning to the dark ages? Or for that matter to operate hospitals but then not allow a patient to get the appropriate treatment their doctors have prescribed for them?
Screw that, if your religious views prevent you from fully doing the job, then you should not be taking said job. Like I'm disabled, as much as I want to work, any employer would never be able to get a reasonable job performance from me, so it's unfair for me to accept the job offer. Just as I enjoy the freedom of driving & public transit sucks, I still don't drive because my health makes it unsafe to do so.
I'm sick of entitled people who think they have the right to do whatever they want, no matter who's face they are punching or lives they are destroying.
Sorry for the rant, I had a rough day with nut cases, especially the religious ones... I hope you have found your place in the world & you have not let them continue to squat in your head. Best of luck on your path.
Adam
RE Hoover
You too hoover, I only saw your post after my reply to the op but definitely, I am sorry that your family was so f'ed up & I hope you found your way in this world... Best of luck...
Adam
BERNICE!!!! It's wonderful to see you here and that you're one of the rational kind. Hail Sagan!
This makes me so happy! 2 of my Favorite Guys!
You're here too? I coulda scrolled and I shoulda node. You were mentioned in my comment but not necessarily in a negative way unless you take offense to my grouping you in with a bunch of my favorite new, hmm, staunch (youngerish) atheists. #hoboheretic Enjoy.
John Wright
Well, if I had to choose from the options in the title of this video I would have to say that SJ is definately not a "genuine bloke". Which leaves...
I've been watching some David Attenborough documentaries recently and the sheer depth of knowledge and passion sir David Attenborough has for the field of evolution and biology is staggering. And he has a better accent than Ken Ham, too.
Ken's research comes from a single book. David has been all over the world and interacted with plants and animals all over the place.
I am better than god.
At least I exist.
Yeah whatever dont go and get all uppity now, this is case for pretty much all humans :)
Parents don't have a "right" to teach their children about sex, they have a "responsibility" about sex (among other things). Part of the reason behind the rise of SexEd in public schools is most parents weren't talking to their children about it. I know mine didn't.
Tim Berry
Exactly & the kids have the right to a proper education which includes sexual education. Parents simply do NOT have the right to abdicate, harm or interfere with their kids right to be educated. Regardless of whatever other rights (including religious rights) they have.
Adam
Also when the parents do teach it, they don't generally teach it very well. They don't have the training for it, and when thinking of their own children they tend to focus on unrealistic ideals.
"It's OUR right to teach our kids about sex!"
"Oh. So you're gonna do that, then?"
"Well. No."
When people talk about "parental rights" in the concept of education, they really mean "parental exclusive rights." The only way to make sure the parents alone have the right to educate their children is to make sure the children don't pick up any education elsewhere.
I was raised in a conservative Christian (Baptist mother/ Methodist father) religious home, went to a christian school and I got my sex ed all in one awkward night. Please, for the sake of all 15 year olds safety and health, educate!
The best part about the "gay cake" ruling, is that recently, the same jackass who was chastising that council for their hostility towards the baker's religion couldn't seem to detect any hostility in the motives behind the Muslim travel ban. It's almost like it was just an excuse to pander to their conservative Christian demographic.
my current hobby horse:
our "god-given moral compass"
that we got by disobeying god and eating the forbidden fruit.
God never "gave" us morality, we have to take it against his direct order. How the hell is that a "god-given morality"?
Great point. I may have circled that idea previously. But I've now added it, as you expressed it, in my quiver. Thx.
indeed. very good point which I somehow missed before.
I'm very late to the game, but based on the bible, it would still be god-given, in so far as it was all god's plan to have adam eat the apple. Otherwise, why would he tell adam and eve to "be fruitful and multiply" when there is no concept of death? If they had no sense of right or wrong, how would they know that eating the apple was wrong? Actually, darkmatter2525 had a great video about it from like 7 years ago.
One of my favorite arguments against the bible itself is that, if an all-knowing and all-powerful god wanted people to do as he wanted, he shouldn't leave his words up to interpretation. Why would he let the bible be in any language other than the universal one from before the tower of babel so people could never misinterpret it. The commandment telling people not to kill is ambiguous; don't kill anything ever? We kill to eat, even if it's plants. Don't kill humans? Wars and self defense are off the table, then there's indirect killing like knowing that your actions could kill someone down the line. Don't kill in anger or for personal gain? Well, cold blooded killers that kill for the sake of killing rather than to get something would be a-ok.
@@catelynh1020 yes, much of what you say is true.
But the point I was making is not that the "moral compass" didn't come from a god, I wasn't saying that it didn't...
I was saying that he didn't "give" it to us. We only "received" it because we broke the rules. But our act of breaking the rules was a set up anyway... a court of law would rule the apple story "entrapment", like when the cop sells you drugs then arrests you for the drugs he sold you.
Besides which, a deeper question to ask is, "Was eating the apple part of the divine plan?"
If his original "plan" was that we would sin and thereby bring about all the rest of it (sacrifices, exoduses, genocides, the life and sacrifice of Christ and all the rest) then again, it's "entrapment"... we had no choice because he's god and he's "all powerful" and "all knowing" (therefore, "all responsible" too)
On the other hand, if "original sin" wasn't part of the original "divine plan" then two people, who were basically nothing more than newborns, children with no understanding, somehow these "children" managed to mess up the "divine plan" of an all powerful, all knowing being... which doesn't say much for his plan, or his power or knowledge...
Basically, as I have often said in the past, the Bible is a plot hole, wrapped in bigotry and misogyny, and decorated with fairly tales.
@@Fraterchaoraterchaos
You're right at that. I fully believe you. Having had good relationships, I always saw the bible for the abuse it really was and hated it for that. Entrapment was 100% part of the plan. It shouldn't take unconditional love and support for someone to see the gaslighting, entrapment, testing, and straight up abuse that the bible says is good.
I am new to this channel, but now I've been watching quite a few of the videos, and I must say that with the sheer combination of information, scholarly analysis, variation, variety of brilliant guests, clever entertainment, and perfect editing, this channel should be prime time national television.
wow. high praise. thank you.
I am so glad to see your take on reproductive health. I'm a healthcare professional who has worked in adolescent reproductive health for years all over the world. The ironic thing I have noticed is that my approach has never & will likely ever change while religious institutions who claim their stances never change because that's the way it has always been seem to be changing all the time just to keep up with societal norms as they see their attendance numbers dwindle. The claim that God's word is never changing may be true, but man's interpretation & application do, & quite regularly I might add, in itself should be a red flag for believers. As always, thanks for yet another in depth video explaining where Ken & his band of "hamsters" do their best to sell their wares to very unsuspecting folks...
I'm glad our discussion was still coherent to someone of your qualifications. thanks.
"Hamsters" - good one.
The reason its in school is because parents WON'T talk about it at home with kids.
My parents never did, not even once.
"My daughter is a filthy sinner!" - Georgia Purdom
How old is she and where does she live? I'd like to meet her if she's an adult.
She's like 4 and lives in Kentucky. Have at it Hoss.
+Jason Edson
wouldn't he (under these conditiosn) first need a genetic test to determine they are actually related? ;-)
+Jason Edson
No thanks.
I believe the exact quote was "guilty sinner". Forget how she goes on though. Something like "She deserves Hell" or somesuch? It's been a while and I'm not watching the whole Dawkins clip just to listen to that mindless breeder hell-beast belch her inanities again.
My parents didn't want sex ed taught in school. They thought if the gutter was good enough for them...........!
"Only imbeciles can get to heaven." - Fundie Mantra
OMG the sex ed scene from “The Meaning of Life”! Definitely one of the best scenes from my favorite Monty Python movie.. -God- bless you, Paul! 😂✌🏼
you got it, Nikola
WTF? "Parents have an inbuilt Christian morality, right?" That has to be the most idiotic assertion that Ham has uttered so far.
Low bar
My parents sat down my brother and I when we asked, and were straight up on everything they didn’t sugar coat it explained how sperm and an egg come together and that sex is more often for pleasure between partners. Explained how condoms and contraception work, and made sure we be sure a partner is ready before moving forward. They knew when we were ready, we’d have sex and there was no stopping it so they didn’t ask us to be abstinent they just gave us the tools to be responsible and safe. Same with drinking, they knew if we decided to drink one night we would and so the rule was if you do, call us to pick you up, don’t drive home we will come get you at any hour. Teens will be teens parents need to figure that out like mine did.
I remember being a junior at my Christian high school growing up and being shown Ken Ham videos. Even then when I believed, I thought, “This guy doesn’t make since and is spewing bullshit.” I knew what he was proposing was not logical. Ken Ham has made way more atheists than any secular humanist in history.
I have gone through the American school system, I have two grown children that went through the American school system
and I worked for 20 years in the American school system.
I can say that from what I have seen the sex education in our schools is woefully watered downed and inadequate.
It should be taught by a science teacher, in a science class not
Shoved off on a gym teacher that is woefully untrained and inerudite in the science of the human body.
I believe as a parent it is my job to teach and show my children the meaning of respecting oneself and others.
Showing kindness and hopefully showing by example how to show love and respect in a relationship.
The science of the body should be taught in school not left to an often ill equipped parent.
Just my humble opinion as a parent, grandparent and past educator.
Re: sex ed, just want to put in a plug for the Unitarian Universalist sex & relationship education program "Our Whole Lives." My teenage daughter participated in it at our UU church a few years ago, and it was excellent -- thorough, fact-based sex ed (including lgbt sex) along with real dialogue among the teens and with the adult leaders about what makes for good relationships, love, respect, responsibility, etc. I keep thinking the world would be a much better place if all kids had this kind of experience.
Parents are morally obligated to talk to/ teach their children. Relationships and sex are no different. Makes me sick most parents "because it's easier " leave it up to a stranger. Really it makes me sick.
"You have the right to believe in what you believe BUT I have the right to laugh at your stupidity!" Awesome Aussie Atheist.
It seems like it's been so long, I was worried I'd seen the last of Ham & AiG News and that I might have to start watching Answers News raw *shudder*.
A hard line in the sand disappears with the winds of change.
There is a difference between not serving someone what you sell to others and not selling someone something you don't sell to others.
"Ham and eggs?" Don't you mean "Scams and begs!" Hardy har har.... ummm... it's telling they don't mention that less sex ed = increased teenage pregnancy, abortion, and std transmission. The southern states, the most religious region in the US, is at the top in all of these stats.
true. at least they weren't advocating NO sex ed.
@@Paulogia it would have been better if they had. At least then the kid might go looking for info on their own and stumble on some useful information. But if Ham teaches his version, then the kid is more likely to completely disregard any actual good info they might receive later.
@@williamdowling7718 agree, I would never subject my kids to aig. Luckily, we don't have this problem in South Africa, no re-legions are taught in schools, although we are a very spiritual, religious nation! We (generally speaking), use other avenues or should I say, venues, to worship (temple, mosques, churches etc), and public schools are used for learning (the kids do learn ABOUT re-legions), and there are religious schools, like bible schools and those are separate from public schools.
God, re-legions, spirituality, etc, is personal, no need to inflict it on the masses, each individual should be afforded to decide if or not, if they "want" these things. It's not for churches or should I say CHURCH ORGANISATIONS, or even governments, to decide these things for each individual. 😊
In the words of the comic book villain who actually turns out to be the hero, "they don't want to do science, they want to undo science."
We are perfectly aware there are other countries out there. How else would we know how much better we are than all of you? [\Sterotyotipcal American]
In the case of the cake baker situation, the difference between the Nazi example and the Gay wedding example is a free speech issue. Being forced to make a custom cake that violates your morals or sense of decency is not allowed provided wouldn't make that cake for anyone. The gay wedding on the other hand, you don't have to make them anything you wouldn't sell to anyone else, but you can't just refuse to make a wedding cake period. Which is what he did.
And the "Hostile language" the lower court used was essentially just telling the guy he can't use his religious convictions as weapons to attack other people. They were hostile to him, not his religion in my opinion.
I was raised by an abstinence only religion, even though I didn't follow it. I am proud that I didn't raise my kids that way. I tought them there is no shame in your natural urges. They have no shame in talking to me and my wife about it. It is absolutely freeing from the shame I grew up with!
these people get scarier and scarier by the second...the best protection you could give your children against abuse, especially sexual, is education...great video as usual...I'd buy one of those t shirts to support you but I don't think I could ever put ken ham on my body
I'll have non-Ham designs soon.
I will be keeping an eye out for them...keep us posted
This was a GREAT episode. As tough as it is to handle those stooges. It's like they are smug about being so stupid. Except Ken. He's making a damn good living.
christian morality is a oxymoron
Absolutely. It's not morality, it's obedience to authority.
And as representative from Australia....we apologise for Ken
Hey Paul .... love the channel from Northern Illinois, USA. Keep up the great work.
thanks, David
I guess I got very lucky I went to 12 years of catholic school but it was during my last 4 years that were amazing as I was taught by Servite Friars. Anyway in my 9th year of schooling I this was my first lesson I learned in religion class; the teacher stood in front of the class and said "Remember what we taught you for 8 years", He paused dramatically then said "We lied!" And that was the begging of my serious religious studies. Then in Biology class is where I learned the creation story and this it what the teacher said right before we dove into evolution, "I have to teach this so God created everything it will be on the test" That was it.
Although it took me a bit to walk to finally admit that all gods presented to me could not exist because I wanted to believe so bad. I am now content with my decision although the urge to pray is still so strong when things are going bad. Thanks for the videos
I was hoping The Ark Encounter would have declared bankruptcy by now.
At least in my experience, any parent who wanted to, could request their child forego sex education in our local school district. Some did, and thats their perogative. For the vast majority, having competent professionals teaching with up to date information is a godsend.(Yes, that was an attempt at humor.)
And my father, a recovering Catholic, told me many years ago, that he had no desire to teach me or my siblings about sex. His humorous observations about getting taught about sex education by the nuns in his childhood kept us rolling with laughter.
On the cake case: Commerce (ie the making of money at every opportunity) trumps morality. Have these rightists forgotten that they're supposed to be in favour of pure Capitalism?
Great video, Paul. I love Jim, one of the most rational RUclipsrs you could have invited on your channel. I've been waiting for it for a while now.
who else are you waiting for? maybe I should get a list so I don't keep you waiting
I like being pleasantly surprised when a notification pops up and it's your video. It's hard to make a list because of different topics being covered by AIG but you've definitely had the right folks come on and discuss the topics AIG was reporting on... Maybe Steve McRae on a future show when AIG is butchering science news. Honestly, in the end, it doesn't really matter who you have on as long as you go after them and correct their misrepresentation of science with facts so people who are interested in fact checking them can hopefully find your channel and get the opposing views supported with evidence.
Thanks again for everything you do and please forgive me if the above is hard to follow, I'm driving (a semi, I know I know) so I'll type a word and drive a few miles and then type another word... Sorry but it just couldn't wait until I stop, in about 7 hours.
Talking about what gay wedding cakes do in bed gives a whole new meaning to "food porn".
The problem with trying to counter any hovind's attempt of an argument of "Where you there" by throwing the argument right back at them for the bible is, that they will tell you that the bible is the testinomy of an eyewitnes. And that eyewitnes is god. And they will not accept that the bible was written by ordinary fallible humans, but by fallible humans inspired by god so that they didn't make a single mistake. And they'll talk about the deadsea scrolls and how accurate they are and generally duck and dance until you die from frustration. And as soon as you quit they will claim to have won the argument.
KingQwertzlbrmpf - the only way out is for Christians to be inundated with Jewish Scholars making every attempt to marginalize Christianity as the greatest lie ever sold that caused millions and millions of Jews to be put to their death over a fucking lie.
maybe then these Christians that are on the fence of belief or doubt will have their eyes open finally
33:15 Oof. This bit hurt a little to hear but it's important.
I had an early growth spurt as a kid and I remember being hyper aware of how I was acting with other kids because I didn't want to become a bully. I have that exact feeling again every time the USA does something crazy.
I didn't choose the nukes or the fanaticism, but I remember that they're a serious factor to consider when I vote. These videos help me articulate why, and I appreciate that.
Love his avatar! Nice shirt!(; great video! They taught about oral sex in my sex ed class- so glad i got comprehensive sex ed!(;
The sad thing is many kids claim only exposure to sex Ed is porn
I liked what Noel Plum had to say about Ham & AiG. I always value Noel's opinions, not that sometimes I don't think he is wrong. When I do think Noel is wrong about something, it is because I think that he is thinking about it wrong, not because he did not think about it enough. So, even when we disagree, I see value in his opinion. It is much the same with Paulogia, though I have less notable points of divergent opinions with Paul.
As a US citizen, I completely agree with their assessments of the duties of Canadians and Americans!
... at least the duties I am vaguely aware of...
😆
It's just recently I found Noel Plum, how coincidental he shows up here. Can't wait for the moment Sci Man Dan appears (though he's more into battling flat earth)
This isn't really his forte
Every time I see Ken Ham and his cronies I see bobbleheads.
Ken Ham is like a feral pig who's been shot 3 times yet continues to run, full force. His end is quite near, but he's yet to realize it. And, while slightly less vested than Shannon Q, I thoroughly enjoyed this meeting of two redoubtable minds.
This has got to be the calmest I’ve ever seen Noel! Great collab guys.
Great vid! Thanks Paul and Noel. I hope Noel comes back for more in the future. Love me some English accents!
lack of sex education kinda messed up my life. i stumbled across my uncles porn collection as a child, and while all my friends dreamed of being a fireman, or doctor, astronaut, policeman, and others, i directed all my efforts into becoming a pool boy or pizza deliveryman.
both good choices, really
The Supreme Court stated in their ruling that they were NOT setting a precident. They ruled on only that one case.
I love to sing along to the intro and it always sounds like “flip em f*#% em flip em f*#% em ham n eggs” 😂😂😂
not a bad option... I didn't put that on the shirt though
Paulogia I’d buy that shirt and wear it proud! 😂
The part from 22:28 to 22:52 was breathtaking, it was very well explained and pretty much covers why "The Bible says so" mantra is just plain wrong, most people using that statement just want the quick, emotional, upper hand in a discussion and/or debate instead of investigating the issue. I mean, there are debates even in the literalist, fundamental, evangelical side of Christendom that debate the actions of Rahab and the two spies. I appreciate that bit as a person who likes philosophy, including ethics. Koodos to Mr. Plum on that part.
my dad & i have been calling pr0n "training videos" for years
How hostile was irrelevant. The justices went down that rabbit hole to avoid ruling on the tricky issue.
I had to smile at 10:55 seeing the schoolroom with kids, the interior equipment & layout bringing to mind by nieces preschool she runs over in Seattle, lots of hands on displays and bins holding neat stuff.
Ken Ham is from Australia. Australia is still technically under the Queen of England. I'd say sending a creationist to England is proper revenge for us getting stuck with Ken.
at least they didn't send Ken himself
Paulogia but if we sent Kent we could not allow him to come back
As a Christian I think kids should be encouraged to wait on sex. Not necisarily till their married or to a specific age but till they find the right person. You only get one first time and I believe it should mean something not just be about getting laid (if you don't it doesn't make you a bad person its life advice not morality). That said I ALSO think kids should be taught accurate information about STDs, pregnanacy and birth control. I want to see the number of teen pregnancies, the number of abortions (yes I think it should be legal) cut down and fewer stds and I'm intelligent enough to know that teaching kids how to properly use a condom (for example) is a far more effective way of accomplishing those goals then preaching at them not to have sex. Every thinking person who wants fewer abotions (and does any one really want women to have abortions? the right absolutely but better to have the right and not need it) should be in favor of educating people properly on birth control and making it available cheaply.
Could not agree more.
Correction: in the video it was said that in the US sexuality is a protected class, and while that is true for some states it is not true of the US generally, it is in Colorado where the cake suit was happened. We got a bit of work to still do.
I like the idea of the public health nurse coming in to teach sex Ed.
Private businesses have the right to refuse service for any reason. I think anyone who NAMES THAT REASON due to bias, should be ready to face the public consequences. Such as being driven out of business. Period.
That's not true, they can refuse service for any legal reason. You cannot for example have a No Blacks Allowed sign over your bar, because refusing service because of someone's protected status is illegal.
YES HAM AND AIG new this is easily my favorite part of this channel due to the theme song. I do love the rest of your channel don't get me wrong but the theme song has me.
I forgive you. It's catchy.
As a gay US lawyer, please allow me to clear up some misconceptions that people have about the Masterpiece Cakes case: the religion of the baker was a key factor in the Colorado commission's decision in a very negative way. The Court found that this was inappropriate and the decision should have been religiously neutral. I actually agree with the Court, it was obvious that the commission was not handling this case neutrally with respect to religion and it would have been no effort at all for the commission to decide the case without the reference to religion. The ruling in this case applies only to the parties in the case and shouldn't change anything about enforcement of anti-discrimination law at all. That said, the fact that Justice Kennedy (the author of the opinion that ruled for gay marriage) resigned today combined with the oddly high deference to religion in the opinion bodes very ill for future cases. Stay tuned 🤔
Jenelle Peterson Justice Kennedy certainly wrote how he will be rembered by deciding to retire now.
RUclips is suggesting i want to watch AiG now. I blame the Ham and AiG show. Thanks lol
apologies
Its all ok, small price to pay. Keep up the good work though.
All that talk of Ham makes me hungry. When "home schooling" is mentioned I sometimes wonder if it is any worse than the partisan biased stuff that is indoctrinated at regular US schools. Whether its the idolisation of their "founders", the "we saved Europe's Ass in WWII" or the inability to comprehend that the UK is not called England and Scotland is not a separate country or not using the metric system, the whole US school curriculum seems broken and in bits. Thank you Canada for all your help over the years and not expecting endless praise for doing so.
So awesome. I would be happy to see Noel here again :)
Ya thanks to ken ham 5:25 I can now say I really like health ed’. So next time my partner asks me what I’m looking at “Just keeping up with my health ed’”
Paulogia AND Noel Plum? Hell yes :)
hell yeah
@@Paulogia yell hare
I bet those parents will claim that their kid was #1 in their class
Wait a sec, a tree doesn't look much like the letter "I"..... Oh... Oh, thats way more accurate.
I believe teens and preteens should be allowed to do what is natural as long as they are given information about what the risks they are taken and encouraged to use protection
28:00 *NOBODY* bases their morality on the Bible. They might think they do, but they only choose to live by the parts that agree with their own morality.
If anyone lived by Biblical morality, they would be sent to prison.
One reason to give sex-ed in school is that some parents are not good at it. What I got from my parents was virtually non-existent and, frankly, pretty awful.
On the other hand, we had a biology teacher who went out on a limb and taught us which forms of contraception were reliable and which weren't.
This was all roughly at the time the aids epidemic started so some good information was definitely needed.
glad that worked out for you! for many it does not.
Paulogia Actually it didn't. I did a lot of my own "research" in the library and felt a lot of guilt about doing that, because the topic was essentially taboo at home and only dealt with technically at school.
There didn't seem to be anyone to talk about the emotional side at the time
Australia apologises for Ham and AiG.
A virtual tour de force by Mr. Plum.
His best performance ever.
The public schools where I live allow parents to completely review all materials to be taught for sex ed BEFORE it gets taught.
Where was the moral compass when all of those kiddy fiddling priests were running riot????
If you're referring to catholic priests, I'm pretty sure Ken doesn't even like catholics.
I have that same shirt you drew Noel wearing! :O
Thanks for yet another fantastic video. Also thanks for informing me of noel plum I've just subscribed thanks man
Saw the thumpnail, and thought this looks like Noel Plum, nice to him here!
Well Noel, I got it just fine. You do a great job of proving conclusively Ken Ham is the biggest, fattest, and sloppiest Twat of them all! I loved the video. Paul always does a great job of finding the perfect guest host for the topic
I know this is an old video, but as far as I understand the laws here in the U.S.; as far as the "legal perspective" I've heard from lawyers discussing the matter, there is no "grey area" on this. You must fall on the side of either discrimination or anti-discrimination. It is a binary prospect, on or off. Obviously the only correct answer is anti-discrimination. Otherwise, you open the door to any kind of discrimination. You can't "flip the switch" to discrimination on and then start trying to be selective in the discrimination you allow. Allowing any of it means allowing all of it.
Notice how Ken gets word hints of what to say from Georgia and Bodie?! Quite funny!!😎😎
right?!?
I was born on the wrong side of the 49th parallel. It's too bad that Canada can't accept "emotional refugees" from the US. I cry several times a day about what is happening here, and I am losing hope for my nation. I'm not exaggerating when I say that if what is happening here south of the 49th paralle keeps up, some of us, many of us, are going to die. Literally, some from pre-existing medical condition we can't pay for. We are going to be worse than Venezuela, and that won't be good for Canada.
I'm one of the few US-ians who has read and studied a bit about Canadian history. Canada has had some of the same problems we have, particularly in relationships with First Nations (Native Americans here). But there is something so far more humane about Canada. I'd live in Nunavut if it was politically and socially safer than Minnesota.
You mean I was supposed to be praying, tithing, and crap like that? What good is that? Next thing you know I'll be having to go to museums or worship Santa by playing those RPGs on Sunday.
Great collaboration, If i could give it more thumbs up I would.
Paulogia, was having a talk with people from different regions about the use of the word for “pop” or “soda” or “coke”. I am from kansas, i say “pop.” What do they say in canada?
In the Canadian prairies, they say "pop", but I when I moved to San Francisco area I had to learn to say "soda"
I will not eat the green eggs & ham unless it's served with a nice Christmas plum.
As a citizen of the United States since my birth, I have to say hold on there a minute, Hoss.
Ohhhh got as far a 9.25 before they came to the product push, must be doing well at the Ark Encounter to wait so long before try to pick the pockets of the people who follow them.
Bloody brilliant! Good show lads
I've home educated.
Sex ed happens everytime someone says "Girly Dog is on heat" or
there are suddenly/almost overnight, it seems, almost twice as many sheep/cows in the field and half of them are small.
Sex ed has to happen when someone asks "Why does Tomos Cockerel always want piggy back rides on the chickens?" or
"Why are all the dogs fighting?"
Sex ed is late and overdue when youngsters ask "Do you eat babies?/Why are you so fat?"
I guess the Amish don't need to spend much school/class time on it.
I didn't.
@12:10 - Did Georgia say organisms have been observed to "speciate"? I'm not sure she meant to use the word as I would understand it, but if she did it seems like a major slip. Speciation would be proof of evolution. Right?
jmac46951
Creationists USED to consider speciation proof of evolution, but, since we can point to many such observed events they have, in true creationist style, moved the goal posts. Now most want a definite change from one family to another. Something that is very tricky to provide as the lines get really blurry about when something suddenly belongs in a different family. IT does not seem to happen that way.
Paul, what are the lyrics to your theme song? Please help me win this bet!
35:40 Oh boy, I've got to get that "Ham & AiG News" women's T-shirt!
so um, this U.S. citizen would like to point out that not all of us are religious extremists like Ken ham, nor are we all willfully ignorant. there are a lot of us that unfortunately have the displeasure of sharing space with them. Truth be told I just want to move to japan or something at this point...
Sadly, y'all have an abnormally high proportion of them. It's not your fault, of course, but there we are.
So, suppose you tell 'em "The Word Of God says God doesn't exist, and it goes back to The Word Of God The Absolute Truth You Must Believe™!!"