JHM has their own turbo oil line kit that replaced the screen . It includes filters that are easily accessible when you remove the engine cover that you can clean with each oil change
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hey man, do you have a link for one of those? thanks
Glad to see these types of videos. I’m stuck between choosing an S7 or RS7, but I’m looking into preventative maintenance before I pick one. Looking forward to see your progress.
@@datsuntoyy Well... I never bought either. LOL. But if I did, I think I would've chosen an S7. The ZF 8spd is great, but the DCT is noticeably better. A tune bridges the gap on power and aside from looks, I don't really feel like there's enough to warrant the extra expense of the RS. However, I didn't buy either one. I couldn't get past the lack of rear headroom (which I need for my FIL) and I simply cannot justify an engine-out service to replace timing chain guides/tensioners. I can forgive material failure, but I won't accept poor mechanical design that is borderline unserviceable. VW/Audi almost had me back...
@@VertigoGTI A few months back I hoped into my S6 and it started really rough. Like shake the fillings from your teeth rough. I thought I lost a Turbo and was actually excited as I was going to go stage 3+. Alas it was a stuck injector. Luckily, VERY luckily it freed up on it's own but the shop quoted me $12K to replace the injectors. Engine would have had to come out. Gotta love German cars. Side note, at 119k mile my DCT is starting to show it's age, I kinda wish I had an automatic.
@@datsuntoyy Oof, dodged a bullet on that one! I actually came across a 2014 S7 with a bad turbo and the price was really tempting, but the rear seat room wouldn't work for my wife's dad. If it was an S6 at that price... I would've happily bought it and sent it to an Audi specialist to get it sorted before I even took delivery. Even tho my original comment is over 2 years old, I still haven't bought anything yet. Between covid decapitating my old industry, finding my footing in a new career, and the insane rise in used market prices, I figured it'd be best to wait. I'm checking out other cars to see what'll work and oddly enough, the Jaguar XJ 5.0/XJR is the front runner. I would've never guessed a Jag would be on my list, but it barely feels like it's much heavier than my G35 sedan.
@@VertigoGTI I looked into a Jag when I bought my Audi. The rear seats are bucket style so baby car seats don't fit well, went with the Audi. I had the same problem when I drove the S7, that's why I got the 6. Consider the Genesis G70. Not quite the car the S6 is but more reliable and at nearly half the price. It's what I'd buy if I needed a new car right now.
I'm in the market for a '16 or '17 s6. Besides calling the dealership where the cars been serviced any way to inspect or tell if the screen is going to be problematic? I'll be looking at a 40 - 60k mileage car.
I’m currently in the market for one now too. I’d prefer an 18 at this point. Were you able to get into yours? 16 or 17?! Thoughts or answers to your original question from a year ago?!
Just a heads up to those watching, the cause of failure for the turbo failure is the cross shaped oil check valve that sits under the screen. The screen may clog and cause insufficient oil supply to the turbos but if the screen is clean than the cause of failure would be oil draining back into the engine due to a sticking or faulty one way check valve causing the turbos to be run on startup with no oil. The clogging screens was due to oil drying onto the screen if the vehicle sits for an extended period of time and is a secondary failure of the check valve failure. The part number for the oil check valve for most of these engines is VW 079 103 175 C
Hello Sergio .. was it in your experience or you found this information somewhere on Audi forums? I’ve read through a lengthy turbo failure threads on audiworld and audizine but don’t remember seeing anything about the valve you mention.
@@aspsp7186 This was my experience having to repair one and inspecting the failed parts as well as talking with a previous VW tech about the repair. The TSB 2044640 relating to the repair for the A8 also mentions to replace the oil strainer as well as the check valve several times and lists all the parts needed for the repair.
@@Sergio8191994 I had turbo failure due to oil consumption issue. They told me oil was getting into turbos. Replaced both turbos and all updated parts. 2014 S6. 64k
wow. thanks for this. so nice to see before tearing down. Have reassembled any further after this video? I'm doing the identical procedure; rs7 turbo chra's, pcv, updated oil screen, and possibly the check valve as well.
I change all to be safe. 2x coolant lines (each side of the top of the turbo) and oil feed in the center. Coolant lines use same o rings and oil feed use the same
I'm considering an M4, S5, or S6/7.., everything else in the German super saloon realm seems to have common issues I just don't want to deal with and the AMGs I want are out of my price range. I was really disappointed in the F10 M5s reliability. Would you say that the S7 has been fairly reliable? I've been looking at models below 60k miles.
WhiskeyActual yes the few issues they have aren’t really that bad if you’re aware of them and take preventive measures. Mine have all had over 100k on them and where very reliable. Imo one of the best bang for the buck german car in the segment.
I doubt it I think the issue is that the debris buildup on the screens and prevents adequate flow from going through. Unless there a way to backflush it from the turbo line
I did a Liqui Moly flush on mine at 80k. I changed the oil and put in the flush with NEW oil. idled 15 minutes occasionaly taking it to 2,000 for a few seconds then drained it again. The new oil was just as dark as the old. I put new and old oil in old spaghetti jars and put a flashlight behind them. Both completely blocked the light. To correlate with your question, If it can pull that much crud out of an engine, I'm sure it's doing something to clean that screen. I changed my oil every 7,500 average and still it was that dirty. I'm still running orginal turbos at 124k miles. I now do that same flush on all my cars and shoot for 40k miles.
your videos are great! I'm also working on an Audi S6. I got it to run but I'm having issues with it (rough idle). The codes read that the passenger side cylinders have random misfire... do you have any suggestions for me? The engine idles rough on a cold start for about 30 seconds but then runs smooth. Thanks!
. *Audi Recall July 2023* --- * --- This month end July 2023 I received a letter from Audi (as did all Audi owners of the A6 / S6 C7) that there is a vehicle recall action underway. I have to take mine in too. It transpires that these filters that have a wire mesh are too dense i.e. the wire mesh is too close or tight i.e the holes too small that can cause restricted oil flow to the turbos and damage them. They will be replaced by Audi at no cost (obviously) for filters with a wider mesh. ---- + ----
Hi. How does a car behave without a filter? Everything is ok, did you have to install new ones? I have 86,000 MIL and I am thinking of replacing this filter. Greetings from Poland.
Probably not since it's under the top of the engine. Alot of mechanics charge like 10k to do this job. People say if u change the oil every 5k instead of 10k like it says. They don't have any issues.
This can be done without removing the front I’ve done it today left the oil screen out and flush regularly new seals are a must or you’ll do it all again RS6 2014 103k started spluttering at 4200 revs replaced cooler plugs and upgraded coil packs no cheap fix’s on these but worth every smile 👍🏼
i’m looking at buying a 2013 c7 s7 with 64k miles. car feels great i ran codes on it and the only thing that came up was for a very small evap leak. are there any signs of a failing oil screen? and is there other things i should look for?
You won't know it's failing untill it's completely blocked. 64K you're probably going to need a front suspention rebuild soon. Mine was completely shot at 80 and should have been replaced much sooner. The front lower rearward arm bushing (a mouthfull) is best replaced with a polyurethane bushing. You're also looking at motormounts soon. I also had to do high pressure fuel pumps at 90k. Install drive train bushing inserts. Not necessary but makes it feel better.
JHM has their own turbo oil line kit that replaced the screen . It includes filters that are easily accessible when you remove the engine cover that you can clean with each oil change
hey man, do you have a link for one of those? thanks
Love these videos, but my man reminds me of Kermit the frog...
Funny ,now I can hear it .......
Dude can you give us some sort of update on how things are going with the S6?
Glad to see these types of videos. I’m stuck between choosing an S7 or RS7, but I’m looking into preventative maintenance before I pick one. Looking forward to see your progress.
What did you finally go with and how do/did you like it?
@@datsuntoyy Well... I never bought either. LOL. But if I did, I think I would've chosen an S7. The ZF 8spd is great, but the DCT is noticeably better. A tune bridges the gap on power and aside from looks, I don't really feel like there's enough to warrant the extra expense of the RS.
However, I didn't buy either one. I couldn't get past the lack of rear headroom (which I need for my FIL) and I simply cannot justify an engine-out service to replace timing chain guides/tensioners. I can forgive material failure, but I won't accept poor mechanical design that is borderline unserviceable.
VW/Audi almost had me back...
@@VertigoGTI A few months back I hoped into my S6 and it started really rough. Like shake the fillings from your teeth rough. I thought I lost a Turbo and was actually excited as I was going to go stage 3+. Alas it was a stuck injector. Luckily, VERY luckily it freed up on it's own but the shop quoted me $12K to replace the injectors. Engine would have had to come out. Gotta love German cars.
Side note, at 119k mile my DCT is starting to show it's age, I kinda wish I had an automatic.
@@datsuntoyy Oof, dodged a bullet on that one! I actually came across a 2014 S7 with a bad turbo and the price was really tempting, but the rear seat room wouldn't work for my wife's dad. If it was an S6 at that price... I would've happily bought it and sent it to an Audi specialist to get it sorted before I even took delivery.
Even tho my original comment is over 2 years old, I still haven't bought anything yet. Between covid decapitating my old industry, finding my footing in a new career, and the insane rise in used market prices, I figured it'd be best to wait. I'm checking out other cars to see what'll work and oddly enough, the Jaguar XJ 5.0/XJR is the front runner. I would've never guessed a Jag would be on my list, but it barely feels like it's much heavier than my G35 sedan.
@@VertigoGTI I looked into a Jag when I bought my Audi. The rear seats are bucket style so baby car seats don't fit well, went with the Audi.
I had the same problem when I drove the S7, that's why I got the 6.
Consider the Genesis G70. Not quite the car the S6 is but more reliable and at nearly half the price. It's what I'd buy if I needed a new car right now.
Amazing job, but I just wonder if you have to remove the front and put the car in service mode to reach the oil screen ?
Yes on the S6/7 you do on A8/s8 you can do without but very tight and still easier to remove the frontend
How's your turbos holding up without the screen? I'm thinking about doing the same thing.
same Q i want to ask
The new improved screen is a better option over removing it completely
Alot better than paying 10k for turbo alone and simply cleaning intercooler each 50k-100k kilometers.
I'm in the market for a '16 or '17 s6. Besides calling the dealership where the cars been serviced any way to inspect or tell if the screen is going to be problematic? I'll be looking at a 40 - 60k mileage car.
I’m currently in the market for one now too. I’d prefer an 18 at this point. Were you able to get into yours? 16 or 17?! Thoughts or answers to your original question from a year ago?!
Just a heads up to those watching, the cause of failure for the turbo failure is the cross shaped oil check valve that sits under the screen. The screen may clog and cause insufficient oil supply to the turbos but if the screen is clean than the cause of failure would be oil draining back into the engine due to a sticking or faulty one way check valve causing the turbos to be run on startup with no oil. The clogging screens was due to oil drying onto the screen if the vehicle sits for an extended period of time and is a secondary failure of the check valve failure. The part number for the oil check valve for most of these engines is VW 079 103 175 C
Hello Sergio .. was it in your experience or you found this information somewhere on Audi forums? I’ve read through a lengthy turbo failure threads on audiworld and audizine but don’t remember seeing anything about the valve you mention.
@@aspsp7186 This was my experience having to repair one and inspecting the failed parts as well as talking with a previous VW tech about the repair. The TSB 2044640 relating to the repair for the A8 also mentions to replace the oil strainer as well as the check valve several times and lists all the parts needed for the repair.
@@Sergio8191994 I had turbo failure due to oil consumption issue. They told me oil was getting into turbos. Replaced both turbos and all updated parts. 2014 S6. 64k
Thanks cutie🖤👌
So I’ve been doing some research on this problem along with the gtis, I’m thinking installing a catch can should eliminate this issue with it
Did you file for compensation now that Audi has finally recalled the screen? Audi just changed mine, 9 1/2 years old and 124k miles. Original turbos.
Nice video , Does using an engine flush like liqui moly at every oil change help with breaking up the sludge that may accumulate on the screen help ?
Could you kindly post the part # for the updated o-rings and oil screen gasket? thank you
Do the turbo feed lines just pull right out?
wow. thanks for this. so nice to see before tearing down. Have reassembled any further after this video? I'm doing the identical procedure; rs7 turbo chra's, pcv, updated oil screen, and possibly the check valve as well.
Yes cars been back on the road. Check out some of the next vids to see the build.
@@Customwerx no oil leak without the screen? is everything fine?
Mua turbo audi A8 bao nhiêu tiền.usd
My 2015 s6 turbos failed twice between 30k and 40k. How is your car holding up without the screens?
How is it running without the filter. I'm about to buy a s6. The filter is the only thing I see going bad on these cars.
How many Orings did you change ? I saw 6 pipes and are the same orings or different?
Thanks ☺️
I change all to be safe. 2x coolant lines (each side of the top of the turbo) and oil feed in the center. Coolant lines use same o rings and oil feed use the same
@@Customwerx thanks bro,
I’m putting 2 bigger turbo on S6 so will do the same ☺️
@@Customwerx And of course I’m removing the oil screen. Just keeping the seal.
is the audi s8 4.0T has the same layout as the s6?
Yes it is
what codes will pop up if i got turbo faliure???
how do you know or check the oil screens or the health of the turbos w/o tearing it apart? I might be buying one in the near future.
there is no way to check it without pulling it apart.
@@1974dukebrown thanks Duke! sad news tho
I'm considering an M4, S5, or S6/7.., everything else in the German super saloon realm seems to have common issues I just don't want to deal with and the AMGs I want are out of my price range. I was really disappointed in the F10 M5s reliability. Would you say that the S7 has been fairly reliable? I've been looking at models below 60k miles.
WhiskeyActual yes the few issues they have aren’t really that bad if you’re aware of them and take preventive measures. Mine have all had over 100k on them and where very reliable. Imo one of the best bang for the buck german car in the segment.
Hi What was the reason for turbos to fail?
What year is a car and what mileage?
Many thanks
The turbos fail due to lack of oil reaching them, which happens due to oil screen issues.
Would Seafoam or Liqui Moly Engine Flush help prevent these issues?
I doubt it I think the issue is that the debris buildup on the screens and prevents adequate flow from going through. Unless there a way to backflush it from the turbo line
I did a Liqui Moly flush on mine at 80k. I changed the oil and put in the flush with NEW oil. idled 15 minutes occasionaly taking it to 2,000 for a few seconds then drained it again. The new oil was just as dark as the old. I put new and old oil in old spaghetti jars and put a flashlight behind them. Both completely blocked the light. To correlate with your question, If it can pull that much crud out of an engine, I'm sure it's doing something to clean that screen. I changed my oil every 7,500 average and still it was that dirty. I'm still running orginal turbos at 124k miles.
I now do that same flush on all my cars and shoot for 40k miles.
your videos are great! I'm also working on an Audi S6. I got it to run but I'm having issues with it (rough idle). The codes read that the passenger side cylinders have random misfire... do you have any suggestions for me? The engine idles rough on a cold start for about 30 seconds but then runs smooth. Thanks!
Did you inspect your turbo wheel on that bank?
. *Audi Recall July 2023*
--- * --- This month end July 2023 I received a letter from Audi (as did all Audi owners of the A6 / S6 C7) that there is a vehicle recall action underway. I have to take mine in too. It transpires that these filters that have a wire mesh are too dense i.e. the wire mesh is too close or tight i.e the holes too small that can cause restricted oil flow to the turbos and damage them. They will be replaced by Audi at no cost (obviously) for filters with a wider mesh. ---- + ----
Hi.
How does a car behave without a filter?
Everything is ok, did you have to install new ones?
I have 86,000 MIL and I am thinking of replacing this filter.
Greetings from Poland.
Okay, I saw your next movie.
I think it's better to throw away that sieve.
the rs6 c7 does not have an oil screen?
it does as all 4.0s do. Audi has finally approved the recall so they will change it for free.
What I part number !?
Can this screen be replaced without removing the front end?
Probably not since it's under the top of the engine. Alot of mechanics charge like 10k to do this job. People say if u change the oil every 5k instead of 10k like it says. They don't have any issues.
This can be done without removing the front I’ve done it today left the oil screen out and flush regularly new seals are a must or you’ll do it all again
RS6 2014 103k started spluttering at 4200 revs replaced cooler plugs and upgraded coil packs no cheap fix’s on these but worth every smile 👍🏼
I'm trying to do my own motor mounts mind doing a video kind of explaining the process ?
Many people would love that vide9
If i pull them for any reason I'll defiantly make a vid.
@@Customwerx okay. Any pointers or anything on pulling them out? Might be doing it this week or so
@@Customwerx hi
من فضلك كيفية تركيب موتور ال ABS
Please tell me how to replace motor ABS?
How many miles on this car when this took place?
Run Fast this one had 99k on it
@@Customwerx You think these are a good buy at 45k-55k?
i’m looking at buying a 2013 c7 s7 with 64k miles. car feels great i ran codes on it and the only thing that came up was for a very small evap leak. are there any signs of a failing oil screen? and is there other things i should look for?
You won't know it's failing untill it's completely blocked. 64K you're probably going to need a front suspention rebuild soon. Mine was completely shot at 80 and should have been replaced much sooner. The front lower rearward arm bushing (a mouthfull) is best replaced with a polyurethane bushing. You're also looking at motormounts soon. I also had to do high pressure fuel pumps at 90k.
Install drive train bushing inserts. Not necessary but makes it feel better.
Mines at 103k I just bought it for 22k there’s no codes but it’s running lean or something on the passenger side so ima try checking with the dealer
bank 2 lean. There's a TSB on that for O2 sensors. Both need to be replaced at around $1,000
I googled this for a Nissan Altima turbo 4-cyl., and I got this for an S6. What is an S6?
9:30 where do you got the torque specs from?
I use Alldata. Off the top go my head I think the tq was 9nm
@@Customwerx thanks. doesn´t look that easy to get without a company