The Tin Trade's Terrible Toll In Indonesia
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Tin Trouble (2013): Tin is an essential element in consumer electronics and Indonesia is now its biggest exporter. But its poverty stricken miners work in horrendous conditions and the human and environmental toll is proving costly.
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"The most dangerous is when we are buried. I was traumatized", says 25-year-old Yuri, who risks his life illegally diving for tin off the coast. In addition to a steadily rising death toll, local ecosystems are being ravaged by massive deforestation, water pollution, soil depletion and the collapse of fish stocks. "It will take centuries, thousands of years before everything can return to normal", says biologist Eddy Nurtjahya. The Islands of Bangka and Belitung are experiencing a tin rush and with a laissez-faire government and rampant corruption, many are now seeking international pressure to help curb this illegal trade. "If the government doesn't take immediate action Bangka and Belitung will get poorer and poorer."
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All well and good, but people forget that this was exactly what British workers had to do a few hundred years ago. Blaming modern technology is not going to make things better.
Agree
More like 2,500 to a few hundred years ago. Organbuilders on the Continent almost always insisted on using Cornish Tin for their pipework. I suspect Tin was Britains most valuable export for a significant portion of its history. Without Tin (and Copper) there couldn’t have been a Bronze Age.
@Christina Reynolds in the 1870s Cornwall England was the worlds largest producer of tin with over 2000 mines working. It is estimated that the tin mining in cornwall went on for over 4000 years and only came to a halt on 6 March 1998. There is talk in resuming mining in cornwall again though due to the price of tin. There are monumental deposits under the north sea but only viable if the price is right so they say.
that is true but people also forget that those brits a few hundred of years ago caused a lot of damaged worldwide with the divide and conquer strategy.
@@Baerock those brits who where working in mines in UK did nothing to anyone globally as you trying to infer. They where busy working and dieing down mines in conditions that where horrendous. If you had to film their work and show it to people these days, you would feel sorry for them.
My Dad left Wales in 1950s because he did not want to work down a mine. That was practically the only work at the time when he grew up. All his school friends ended up in the mines and not one lived past 60. It's a hard life being a miner.
I love how the English subtitles don't match up with what they are saying in English. haha.
You always need subtitles to translate corporate or politician talk. Always
indonesian is a very hard language to translate hahah
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Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging
Oronamin the comment is about English
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It’s such a shame how little they get for the tin. In the US, 8 to 10kg of tin would sell for $120-$150, not $3-$4 😢
Real translate : 80.000 - 90.000/kg is around 5,5 - 6 dollar US/kg.. 10kg/days = 55 - 60 US dollar/days..
For prespective 60 dollar in indonesia u can buy 10 pack of marlboro cigaretes + 30 cup of cofee + eat 3 time/days for whole week and still have some money to save..
@Jim Smithers they didnt had much choices to earn income so u cant say they "fucked up their home for short term gains".they did this knowing that this wld cause harm to their home but what choices did they have?
thats why there isn't as much tin mines over there
It was not tin but tin ore but yeah the miners get a very small share of the price of thin.
Again- the disparity between wages and work conditions in countries that cannot afford to not to undertake such work for fear of poverty & starvation, and countries that dont care as long as they get their "toys" is so sad & disheartening... And of course- the environmental impact cannot be ignored...Praying for a better way 😣
This story is a testament to the miners who work supporting their families.Government is probably troubled because these small scale operations are much tougher to control and extort compared to a large mining concession.
Love this Documentary 10/10 STARS!!
Being an Indonesian, this is a very sad reality here in Banka Belitung. Families try to survive day to day by mining tin.
Ommar what is the government doing ? Its a government responsibility to protect its people . Crooked government ! I dont have an I phone .
Ommar hi.
Are you blind? Or a criminal?
All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Do you know a better way for these people to support there family's? Or should they just starve so the elon musks of this world can get there new rolls royces.
and yet i sit here watching this on my phone
Me to
@icewall flatearth no they are 2 different metals but tin mixed with copper is brass
At least you recognize your part of the demand that perpetuates these things. Most people aren't capable of that kind of awareness. Try to consume less bs you don't need and support candidates and legislation that protects the environment and builds infrastructure for recycling
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Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news
It's on your phone yes, but who is really perpetuating their situation. They are being screwed over so someone can make billions. The phone or devices isn't the problem. Buy low sell high, it's how you make profit.
4:06 dude falls in SO DEEP
And then the guy sits with a towel covering his manhood 😂😂😂😂
You can blame the industry for the demand of tin but you can easily blame the government for not willing to invest into these operations directly improving the peoples condition. Blaming the products the require the material is not the answer...
I agree the real problem is poverty and lack of investment which lead to all sorts of illegal dangerous practices to just stop them the people will starve. The high level of corruption in government doesn't help so there is no incentive to change.
Tin extraction, and other minerals, has been on similar scale way before electricity become a thing. Is just the government not wanting to do anything to improve the people. They watch to the other side, pocketing legal and illegal taxes and claim that their people at least had a job so they can feed their families. And of curse, will turn a blind eye too when these people get cancer or incapacitated by accidents.
as long as my new phone is deliviered in time....we can all pretend we know nothing about this...right?
We know about it and I will complain if amazon doesn't get my spare phone delivered within 24 hours just incase mine breaks. Lol
LOL! ILLEGAl means the politicians are not getting a cut of the proceeds. How terrible!
LOL!
that's why the country is so poor
Illegal because the methods are destroying the environment and wildlife
Having 5 kids when you make $3 a day should be illegal.
It's called Child Abuse.
It's hard work and I'm glad that they keep all the money no need for the government to tell them how to dig a hole 😂
@stoeger 2 well, i came from the island (Bangka) and i can confirm that if the higher ranked in the government gets a cut, you will get permitted and even backed up if you have problem. They basically turn blind eye to the problem
Thanks for raising awareness on this critical matter. I have been to these islands around the time this was shot. From the plane you can see the devastation that is taking place, massive holes everywhere and brown murky waters around the island. This place is so beautiful but is being literally destroyed by our thirst for gadgets and by our planned obsolescence driven society.
as you type and watch on said gadget lmfao
One thing that is always overlooked in these videos; without the mining industry, these people would literally have NO way to earn a living.
Cancer risks seem pretty far down the list when these people are just trying to put food in their bellies day-to-day.
Find money for plenty of cigarettes
Looks like the industry got some laws passed to make the informal tin mining illegal and everyone just ignores it because its unjust. How is industrial scale mining less destructive? Where are the "truly horrendous conditions"? People work dangerous jobs all over the world. No one is forcing these people to mine.
Industrial scale mining CAN be less destructive, because the volume is large enough to justify paying for safety devices, filters, remediation, etc. Everything goes through the whole chain - economies of scale . . . whereas just one guy in a boat, likely doesn't even know how those things work . . .
Peter Hi.
Your smart. So many are just sheep.
All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. So rich pricks like bill gates gets his cut. Who cares if they starve? The elon musks need there new rolls royce.
@@theaubad1006 Funny that the two names you mention have created more jobs, more value to thousands and millions of people (in Gates' case) than you ever will. But hey, Bill Gates is a rich prick cause he gets paid billions. Ok.
Tremendous respect for there hard work and dedication to there family's. From America
Damn i actually feel bad for these people my life isnt that bad
@tom tamkins pls elaborate. (actually interested in your views)+
Birth control is the answer.
......….possibly part of an answer, but I reckon oomans have run their course Darwin-wise
@@JT-xd9uc you're my hero lol
@@JT-xd9uc and proper sex education.
What the small miner didn't tell you is that there is traces of gold. Since they didn't tell us, there could be more gold there.
And yet . . . even in the most appalling conditions on this planet - people have lots of kids! This inevitably makes their situation worse . . . and so it goes on!
sometimes your kids die when you're poor, so you have lots of kids, because leaving progeny on this planet is one of the deepest drives a human being feels, and without that existential sustenance these people have nothing else. They would still be poor even with no kids, and having kids lets them feel like human beings instead of work animals.
there is also an old belief popular in Indonesia that having lots of children would also give you lots of prosperity/ fortune, although that belief was only reliable for middle/ rich class this time.
Supply and demand makes bad things normal.
Only worse thing than being poor is being poor and alone. Its quite honestly the only x factor they have
Gee maybe the places with terrible condition don't have super great access to condoms and abortions.
i have a question about the guy who lost his leg in the mine..why did he choose to focus on carpentry after losing his limb? from what i very briefly saw of him sitting @ his little woodshop he does good work! I hope he makes way more money doing that rather than mining for tin
I'm sure he doesn't make as much money. That's like saying people should be happy flipping burgers at McDonalds for minimum wage, instead of working in construction as a crane operator for more money but possibly getting hurt on the job.
Damn pretty quick breakdown i need them at my work takes our guys that time to get their tools together
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Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news
How is this different then the gold rush? Corporations work with law makers to keep these guys out of work.
Meanwhile, here in The Netherlands, they want to lower the speed limit from 130km/h to 90km/h to save 0.00000000001% of emmisions...
Indonesia: "hold me tin"
Aroop Roelofs I’m sorry that sounds horrible ! Hope that doesn’t happen !
@@Bexar0000 Unfortunately, this apparently already happened, though it is 100km/h.
In the evening and night you may go up to 120-130km/h (depending on what is allowed on that specific road) but during the day, 100 is the max you'll find anywhere...
I won't be affected my self by it that much at this moment (most roads I drive on where a max of 80 anyways, with the occasional 100) but if I have to travel longer distances, it will be meh...
Meanwhile, our neighbours in Germany can gas as much as they want on the highway ("autobahn"), they just aren't insured when they go above a certain speed...
but then again, our politicians are pretty much purely driven by left-wingers without a brain (not saying all left-wingers have no brain, just saying the ones that are in charge have none).
@@FinlayDaG33k Oh man, this is horrible, slowing the economy and travel.
Thanks for info!
just imagine how well of those parents would be if they didnt have kids to feed. Oh well, not their fault they are poor.
If your poor have no kids AT LEAST.
Their kids should kill their parents when they grow up for bring them into to join their miserable exsistance.
They have this mindset that the more children they have, the more workers to earn money for the family. They completely fail to grasp that this also means they have to spend so much more to feed and raise them until they're actually old enough to work any kind of job--and there aren't any jobs that pay enough to offset the costs of having the children in the first place.
It's just bad family planning in poor areas
This Documentary din't use under water camera so the viewers can see what is going on under the sea...
9:09 Why the hell is she talking about Copper now? ... the sea miner said he digs up tin, the story is about tin, copper is not involved .., as she goes on, she is using the terms "Copper" and "TIN" interchangeably??? ... they are not similar at all.
However, cell phones and conmputers using tin are included in the story as a reason for the demand, copper is ALSO part of that demand as well as lead.
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Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news
These videos are very well made and produced, i have been watching the videos about mining, and i was surprised at how much of the work is manual, i thought it would be fully automated. Good luck for future videos, and is there a TV station anywhere these are aired on??
at least the chinese don't exploit that mining area. or else, the local people will eat nothing but sand. i admire the indonesians of succeeding on driving away the chinese. other 3rd world countries should follow them. more power to you indonesian brothers, be strong and always put safety ahead of everything else. your health is very important.
What do you mean driving away Chinese? They driving away white colonist & Japanese colonist.
there's many chinese in bangka belitung bro
The talking to them about health risks as they smoke on cancer sticks.. what a wonderful waste of money and resources by everyone
"I need to Mine Cancer to buy more Cancer"
+itburnswhenip ""The talking to them about health risks as they smoke on cancer sticks.. what a wonderful waste of money and resources by everyone""
why do people drive cars?, the once who do, pollute the earth for those who dont!, cars give everyone cancer, destroys the earth climate, and poisens ur rivers and seas!, and you are worried about 1 person giving him self cancer??, yet a person driving a car is giving us all cancer, AND destroys our planet!!
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
One Volcano can spit out more hazardous gases and particulate then I will ever be able to do in my life time, hydro-thermal vents in the ocean floor release more toxic chemicals into the ocean and air, per day then the China or other 3rd world shit holes do, natural Oil seeps spill oil into lakes and rivers constantly, at a rate of 'millions of gallons' per year In the State of California alone, add the whole world and your talking billions of barrels!
If you are going to try and make it seem that humans have anything to do with making the world "toxic" you'll need to stop the earth first, because last I checked those chemicals existed in our atmosphere well before humans started driving cars or flying.
@@itburnswhenip are you trying to blame the nature?
@@kins1703 Blame? nope... what I was saying is this, If there is a river that already has a natural oil seep dumping hundreds of liters of crude into it annually, and I walk up one day and drop 1 liter of my own crude oil into it, Crazy environmentalist would consider the river to be contaminated only after I added the crude oil in it, when in reality its been contaminated for millennia, and thats a significant fact when talking about climate change and pollution that many simply choose to ignore because its a inconvenient truth.
Don’t condone but cigarettes kill your hungar
Finds gold
Throws it away
Lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍 then i come through with my detector....... Booom!
@@ladeda7033 gold detector....yeah ...sure
I hope no tin was damaged during the production of this video.
yeah subtitles are way off... just saying different shit
They don't even really need them, I could understand them perfectly fine! Those subs were kind of an insult really.
I make $3 a day but I have 5 kids.... that's less than $0.5 per day for each member of the family.... I never got how those people think.... they barely have food to eat but they keep on pumping more and more kids...
It old news,try looking with new data bro this area is more developing with tourism because student demostran urgent government to stop ilegal mine
7:13 What's with the subtitles? I can understand the guy just fine and I'm sure he went to school to learn English. What an insult.
why does this documentary think copper and tin are the same??, they are 2 totally different elements!.
That's where all of the good kratom comes from. Also Sumatra, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, Borneo.
We owe them a great deal
why do they put wrong English subtitles for someone who is speaking English? they're changing his words
This reminds me of the movie Water World. The shit just looks so goddamn primitive! It's amazing their able to do what they're doing
Damn! That's exactly what I thought😔
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Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news
At 15.15 they say that tin bought in 55 million euros to Indonesia but according to other sources the tin industry for indonesia brought in 1.55 billion us dollars in 2018 and even better results in 2019. Someone is not telling the truth.
they are doing just fine! They have money to burn! if you can afford cigarettes, you are making plenty of money
Idiot
Man is right, if you can afford the poison you are more than okey
cigarettes sell for a dollar a pack over there
How much is a packet of Cigs...?
Now much for a couple of gramms of "Thinking"?
Incredible comment here.
Because tin is used to line cans, the word "tinny" acquired a connotation of something that was cheaply made. That's untrue. During WW2 tin was in short supply in the US; that's the principle reason tin cans were recycled. Brass is an alloy of copper and ZINC, which is a cheap metal. BRONZE is copper and TIN, and far stronger. Tin is combined with lead to make electrical and plumbing solder. Because lead is toxic, the amount of tin has been sharply increased, raising the price. Indonesia used to be the Dutch East Indies and we were cut off from tin supply during WW2.
People here are saying the english subtitles are wrong. Could you inform us what important or interesting piece of information is lost in translation? 🇮🇩
Tin price is just wrong..they says 5,5 - 6 dollar us/kg..and they can collect around 10kg each days,its mean 60 dollar/days.. its good money if u live here
A man can struggle to put 5 damn boys into school, but he can't buy condoms, which would greatly reduce his child burden? C'mon people. This is getting so damned old.
He could, but lack of education or simply back in the day they could make more money for his 5 childrens.
look help these people extra the ore safely and stop turning a blind eye to the truth we are all one planet
and help is what they need not criticisms of the way they make a living
Michael hi. All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. You know a better way for these people to support there family's? Or should they just starve so a rich prick like bill gates gets his cut? Earning a living is often hazardous and dangerous its called life.
I am an engineer student from indonesian, well the govt had done many effort to make them turn back from this illegal mines..
But working in other sector can't give you more than what you got from illegal mining..
Also for addition, the subtitle you put in this video isn't correct and this case had been undergoing 5 years ago, but u upload it last year ? Well then, :)
Well...
Here we go.
Look at them all huffing cigarettes, modern society has not only let them behind but completely exploited
The land erosion is going to make the floods worse.
I collect pewter that's mostly tin. I think it's a good thing to hold like gold and silver. It will get more valuable.
Better to hold onto stocks
@@cs0345 I hold lots of stocks but I like holding the actual metal a lot more.
When you look at your pewter you can imagen how many have died and suffered for you to hold that.
@@jholotanbest2688 They needed employment. Tin put food on their table.
And now, 5 years later, tin dredging in Indonesia is still a thing. Big companies are not gonna vote against that, 'cause illegal dredging/mining is WAAAAAAAAY cheaper than being legal and having all the permits.
let's see the guys from Bering sea gold try and mining like this
@05:30 they extract 8-10 Kg of tin per day. They make $3-$4 dollars per day. Tin sells at $15.00 USD per kg in 2016 (avg). Be thankful.
It old news,try looking with new data bro this area is more developing with tourism because student demostran urgent government to stop ilegal mine
Regardless, everyone will rush out to buy the iPhone 10. I have the 4 and plan to keep it until it no longer functions. I don't know how many people do that (not counting comp. illiterate types). And I'm not a vegetarian tree hugger or anything. Just don't know why people need every little doo hickey on earth.
D. I don t even have a cell phone or tablet
Well economy means that you have to buy new things. If you buy new stuff these guys would have work in tin mining. If not they will starve.
Most people don't give a damn or are too ignorant, just like the miners who live in abject poverty yet reproduce like rabbits.
but yet you use the internet and the server to run f-b and utube alone make up for the phs u dont buy
Two things.
1) Being in with everyone else, or in other words fitting in with everyone else.
2) Necessity. Different devices will offer better upgrade. Not talking about phones. I do the same thing, they don't change. I also don't change many devices for several years. Phones I leave longer, if I have a working phone that does what I want then excellent. I'll buy another one years down the line if I need too. Other devices on the other hand I may need to upgrade in following years. Computer components etc.
"we pay everything"
yeah expect your employees.
*except
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Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news
@@moch.rijalfatoni2570 i don't see any small workers there. what happened to them? all i see is westerners and high ranking officials
Yes it is horrible, yes throughout history in all places of the world this has and is happening. But something to remember. Even with all the hard and dangerous work, these people are happy to be able to do this as without this their choices of income would be crime and prostitution.
I believe you're never heard of those illegal gold mining in south america before
it's a attracts all kinds of crimes and prostitution because of it.
@@RamonChiNangWong078 Of course any concentration of low income workers in any place in the world will attract that. But I suspect the father that can feed his kid rather then have it starve does not really care about this.
The concluding remark is so relieving.
6:41 looks like they can afford satellite very fancy
That's the free to air satellite dish, they don't have to pay subscription, they just receive free channels
@@foolproofsk4657 yup basically tv antenna.
You "Punker for Real" could afford obviously...
Very fancy
Prick...
Look at the price they're getting for crude tin - about $1.50 a pound. That's a lot of money for a commodity that still needs to be smelted into industrial-grade metal.
I wonder how much more the planet can stand
Not much brother sad
The companies that are using tin in their products pay the market price for that tin. If the people of Indonesia want to take the profits from tin sale and put it to work within Indonesia they certainly can pressure their politicians to do that. They can even put an export duty on tin and get rich from tin sales. Of course those companies that use tin will look for better prices elsewhere.
The government might do something about the illegal mining when it's their pockets and the council that is getting hit. I'm afraid it's like everything else money talks.
Corruption is the one word why there is nothing happening.
Here is a few ideas close down mines birth control put children in school
Malcolm Leonard you are right, many school here in indonesia today don't have students anymore because of birth control 😅
birth control is not allowed in islam.
@@henryettoit897Though Indonesia is majority Muslim, but Indonesian government already pushed birth control program since 1990. Since then, using any type of birth control is encouraged throughout the nation up to now. Pill, implant, injection, etc are all for free from the urban area to the most remote village (as they have small govt clinic in every village). Condom is still not free though. Thats why birth rate in Indonesia dropped to 2.1 now from 7-8 before in 1990.
Well, I guess they'll have to just stew there in their own squalid craphole of a toilet they made for themselves and die young, we need to stop sending out foreign aid to artificially prop them up.
@@mohamadhafidal-ahyar2253 what a silly thing to say. Are you joking?
I'm impressed that they are eating with spoons
I'm impressed your on the internet and not jail you inhuman/inhumane piece of shit!
First off. This people are fit and healthy. Second, yes they live in a much humble manner but doesnt mean theyre misserable. Third, these people are happy to do this as long as it feeds their family. Here in America we have too much, including obesity, heart issues and the highest population with depression and suicide.
5 kids with 4.50$ per day.
Is this life, i am asking ?
Modernday students can learn a thing or two from this when they complain they only have $10 a day.
Having 5 kids when you make $3 a day should be illegal.
It's called Child Abuse.
So this is how the planet is paying the price for all the phones, tablets and computer tech we have now. There’s always a down side to new inventions.
The resort owners should be able to sue the mining dredging boat that destroyed their business
The problem here is the mining company there is so big that money that talks there. I actually live there (in Bangka) the resort still open until this day. They still have local tourist time after time.
Self-serving and corrupt government.
Ramy hi.
All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. You know a better way for these people to support there family?
X hi. Lol yeah thats the ticket. Steal from other productive people. So higher taxes destroy them also. Then we can all be equally poor.
X hi.
This would be very hard to explain in a short paragraph.
Look up this video on youtube.
The four horsemen by rengade productions.
Its not about the Bible. But it will help you understand the age of consequence.
This is not where commercial tin is made most of it is just mined as ore and shipped off on big ships
Can no one fuckin help these people? Trillions are made off of electronics. Have we really fallen this far from humanity? This shit breaks my heart.
Cool video, but I don't see any reason to feel bad for anyone. Every culture and people move towards more advanced ways of doing things at their own pace, and these people just happen to be far behind, whilst trying to satisfy the demand of faster cultures. Even western countries had times like this, where kids worked in factories, and people lived in rubbish, but then there weren't cameras and journalists around every corner, where as now there are. Again, it's very informative, and teaches us a lot, but it's really up to the people of that country to sort out the problems they are having, just as other countries did and still are. Improvement is ongoing and should never cease.
When are governments going to start decent mining techniques, it's not the users of these minerals fault that the countries that have these minerals are also the most CORRUPT!!
Lillian hi.
All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Who cares if they starve? The elon musks need there new rolls royces. Most jobs are dangerous and or hazardous. Its called earning a living. Even working in 7 11 you can be shot .
i feel offended that they even put subtitle on people who can speak english
beside that, great video
Jayakusuma no one cares
@@paulieheydrich9772 Why are you so rude? I don't get it.
So they struggle to get small amounts of tin while the rest of the world throws countless amounts of tin into the trash?
It old news,try looking with new data bro this area is more developing with tourism because student demostran urgent government to stop ilegal mine
When I started pottery in 1979 I read about this exact type of mining in rural Amazonia.Forgive me for not being shocked at this practise.
John hi.
All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Do you know a better way for these people to support there family's? Or should they just starve so a rich prick like bill gates gets his cut?
The government should encourage foreign investment in Indonesia to help the economy and the people.
No its old news looking new data bro ,this area is developing with new face, with tourism spot
As usual "Illegal" means the government is not taking a cut of the profit. Being liscenced would not make the miners safer.
The miners are making 3 times what a factory worker makes.
So what is the maker of this documentary complaining about?
Having 5 kids when you make $3 a day should be illegal.
It's called Child Abuse.
@@Crashed131963 It doesn't have anything to do with child abuse... Also he has the kids to help him work in the mines. And they don't have rubbers or they don't use it.
The price of metals flexure in the US daily, we Handel recycled metals all the time and u never hear about health hazards here. Everyone is under the impression that life here is so great, the media never informs the world about the millions that are homeless or the working conditions here.
Unbelievable state of River
looks like a fun family outing, if only they had some cigarettes to go with the tin
I think this is the effects of the free market and freedom to choose one's personal life choices. Although they work in rough conditions but they chose to do it for earning a living wage. And these are different than rough workers, say in a local fishing community, where the work is maybe several times more dangerous and yet less profit. These are people that, even the narrators mentioned, immigrated from neighboring islands such as Sumatra and Java. I think there's a bit of irony when it comes to rough environment work sectors such as mining, oil and gas, ship building, etc. Each work comes with their own consequences. The media would also be enraged if a huge mining company, maybe Rio Tinto or the Indonesian National mining companies, bought the land and gain profit from it.
Miners workers of Tin in Indonesia are still poor but the financier or capitalist are going more richer.
It's pitiable that this young man is warning people about the risk of cancer. Didn't he notice that one, they're in grinding poverty, two, they're smoking cancer sticks and three, they're laughing while he speaks. I'm sure they already know how dangerous it it, but they don't expect to live long lives anyway. I doubt if the average death age is greater than 50 for them.
damn he digs up $200 USD worth of tin a day and only makes enough to get by? that sucks, man :/
Around 22:00 this dude is all alone on the beach, trying to scope up tin on what looks to be a Styrofoam plate..(do ya think he needed a fix?)
sad as it is, im gonna say yeah lol, dude was looking mad frantic and i cant assume thats an even slightly effective method of getting tin.
Thats actually made out of plastic or sheet of metal. That's not very effective way to mine for sure.
So, just as long as you pay a policeman you can do pretty much whatever you want ?
Makes me respect the way we do things here, but very interesting doc, Thanks.
Yeah they say "illegal mines" and they cant stop them, REALLY? all those huts, people, water hoses and equipment all out in the open on an island and yet they cant find them?? funny how we can find one pot plant in a 20 acre field but they cant find a big open mining operation on an island! someone is being paid to look the other way!
Yup, pretty much so. I live there and can confirm you that. Pay em up and they act like it never existed. Even protecting them if there is a raid or massive search by telling them first before the raid.
People live like shit all over the world. The system sucks.
Such a sad world for billions of people.....
Wish there are foreign investment like factories in Indonesia that would help the this poor people get a stable income, why not those companies in China move to Indonesia?
adakah kerja nie berbaloi hasilnya dengan penah lelah sehari......
that rad meter was in accumulate mode - counting up, not counting the actual level.. if you leave it for long enough, it will count even higher. trickery to fool them miners
This is a way of life for these people. Dangerous or not, the resource is available so they use it to survive. There were also classic tin mines in Cornwall, England that were mined for centuries. Bolivia, China, Malaysia, Brazil are all sources of tin. Casseterite (tin oxide) is the primary ore world-wide. The US has tin but the US does not seem to have large reserves of it. The tin-lithium belt in western North Carolina has some potential but more so for lithium than tin. Mexico and parts of the southwest US have a variety called "wood tin" that forms irregular brown masses that can be recovered from placer mining those regions. There is danger present with the mining of many minerals. Mining itself can be dangerous for obvious reasons of mine collapses and falling debris but also dangerous gases that can build up in shafts and tunnels. Look how many died in the US from coal mining over the years in the Appalachian's, but these people had to work these jobs because the resources were there just like these tin miners. Without these minerals, life as we know could not exist. We need minerals in our diet, our electronics, for everything metallic, glass, ceramics, chemicals, fertilizers, etc. The list could go on and on. Early man valued minerals although to a lesser degree as much as we do today. Salt was vital to their diet. Native Americans and other indigenous people around the world needed hard minerals such as quartz, chert, etc. to fashion spears and arrowheads or to strike and create a spark that would start a fire to keep them warm and night. Man could not survive without minerals.
thomas Raffles cried releasing the island of Bangka Belitung into the hands of the Dutch.. he said here is the tin island, the richest island in the world...
this was shot in 2012?
so the NGO encourages them to not market and not to avoid selling when prices are bad so they stay even more poor?
Looking at that radiation level it is possible that another more beneficial mining. Mining for nuclear energy, thorium is the byproduct in monazite waste from tin mining. Since 2020 there is already a nuclear project on these.
Why do you guys add subtitles? Some of these guys speak pretty descent English...
5 kids in school, rents house, has TV and food to eat things you do to have your kids be better off then you
Maybe you dont need 5 kids in the first place if you cant take care of them......
It shocks me how terribly we abuse this planet :(
caring about some rocks and grass instead of people lol