@@maytons ......I'm not a huge fan of Governments. But I think even less of anarchy. Some people can't seem to understand you have to go along to get along.
@@Stephen-cr3sc The burden of proof is in your court since Statism has ruled this declining planet for a few thousand years now. PS- It doesn't look good in case your eyes were glued shut. The governing authorities in this film sold the vast forests for profit. Guess it's not as depressing as you initially stated.
the conversation with the poor man really hit me, it really show how powerless and impotent they are with all the pressure from the big company and their own government
Since the 1600's the Dutch East India Company has been doing this to these people with the spice trades. All the money built Amsterdam, London and other cities incredible wealth: tourist destinations to this day.
The greed of man knows no morality nor boundaries. Greed's existence has shaped our world and will continue on as long as man exists or enlightenment is found.
But how do you own the forest, or land or property? Is it not up to the government? I'm sure you're not a native of your house for the past thousands of years.
This is how elites control the population. we are their cattle. they harvest profits from us . understand this very technique, is used all around the world in diffrent sectors ; industrial agricultural , buisness , politics etc. most importantly in education : you are not educated u are indoctrinated to become an obidient worker who doesnot doubt and serves well to the upper class . we are been keept dumb . you have to bresk free somehow by getting liberated from this nonsene software of the society .
@@sudarshanchatterjee6911 lol you guys are hilarious. Do you actually think the common european citizen has anything to do with this? Europeans are themselves slaves of the same corporations. It's not like there's a racial selection.
Do you have a link to back that up? All I could find is that they are informing about the negative effects and that they are promoting certified palm oil that is supposed to environmentally friendly and does not expel people from their land. But most of the time those organizations that give out certificates for money are shady, so I wouldn't trust that either.
no way Google RSPO - palm oil. and we dun just give certificate for monies.lolsz. no crop is environmental friendly!! what we can do is sustainable n responsible. Palm oil is most efficient n sustainable crop. hope you take the time to read several website. mainly from us producers country.
BeeFriendlyApiary That is sickening! I have never donated to them because I find large organizations usually only pay for their overhead and running up there corporations and companies and very little money goes to the actual cause
Ceasing consumption is not the answer. You'd eventually hurt these poor farmers. Sustainability doesn't mean damaging practices cease from being carried out. It just mean that mitigating measures are put in place to limit the damage. Of course, it doesn't work because there's no incentive to be sustainable for the corporations as they have to spend more money and this additional cost chipped away their profit margin. The entire supply chain need to be revamped.
epSos de , Yes, palm oil is in so many products. Just as GMO corn syrup is also in so many products. BUT , we can collectively STOP buying it ! I no longer buy anything with corn syrup in it. Nor anything with commercial corn in it. Such as corn flakes cereal. We have to watch because corn syrup is not the only sweetener that is made from GMO corn ! Soy beans are also GMO so I no longer buy any vegetable oil. Even Canola oil is now GMO. Olive oil is still clean. Much wheat is also now GMO ! Yup , no more Wheaties ! And no more bread. I am too fat anyway . If I can get some certified non-GMO wheat seed I can always grow my own patch of wheat and grind my own flour. Which by including the whole wheat berry is much healthier for me anyway. Haven't you ever wondered why the settlers of the 1800's were so strong ? They consumed the whole wheat berry. It is the modern corporations that has learned how to separate the wheat berry into other products , which give us less nourishment.
Land clearing for palm oil. Land clearing for oil. Land clearing for diamonds. Land clearing for gold. Land clearing for gas. Land clearing for precious stones. Land clearing for coal. Land clearing for farming. Land clearing for development. Land clearing for infrastructure. Land clearing for rubber plantations. It will never end in our lifetime. The law of supply and demand will not allow it.
Every country has/had to go through the same phase though? Just because some countries developed earlier does not mean they were not oppressed or poor before in history? And talking about modern day, have you seen how SINGAPORE has achieved 3rd to 1st world in a matter of 50 years? If you keep having the poor people getting fucked in the arse mentality, it will get you nowhere.
Boycotting Palm oil in consumer goods is not enough. Consumers must reach out to companies through social media, websites, emails and let them know why you will no longer support their product and why so called sustainable palm oil is not a good alternative either. It’s vital companies hear from consumers.
Living in the US I've never heard about the scale of use of Palm oil. It is very sad that a wonderful natural resource can be turned into a environmental and societal disaster. Money is the root of all evil.
"You guys" huh? Listen there buddy who doubtfully knows anything about this country, I live in Columbia County New York. I am surrounded by dairy farms and beautiful forests. I trout fish every spring, and hunt every winter in beautiful lakes, streams and forests. I have not destroyed or defaced anything. There are most certainly scumbags on every continent. Seems to me that you are the one joking.
u sure r funny..how about the thousand or million of acres of land u guys used for corn..soy..rapeseed etc?..think before u comment..do not live like a frog under the bowl Buddy..it's really funny on how the thought process of some people Buddy👏
The problem is not the palm oil itself. It's the greed of those corporations and the greed of the farmers themselves too. And the government also turning a blind eye over what's happening. But still the one with the bigger role to play is the government. If those companies did what they're doing in Europe or America, they'd already be insolvent right now paying all the fines.
Here in the u.s, corporations have basically complete control of the government. They want a bill to pass it passes. Why break the law when you can change it.
Journeyman, You Did *VERY WELL* job, half of it it's true, but in my experience, there is some other variable that causes these farmer problems. When we said that they barely made it daily because low wage/low paid it's doesn't just that simple, there is some variable like they spend money on cigarettes/tuak (coconut fermentation drink). Safety equipment it's not something that they can't afford to buy requirement safety but they just don't want to make it more complicated, they aren't comfortable using this equipment (I talk about farmer outside the Company employee) so they end ed up not using proper equipment. RSPO certified? Hell No, this is far from what you Europeans expect. *In palm oil farm except for big company like Wilmar etc, I can guarantee you that even the PRIVATE OWNER FARM still never heard about RSPO certification.* In 22:51 "I don't know anything, I just want to sell", this is 100% true. I'm not saying this is right but they don't have the education and the profit are not that much so they could spend on high quality or certification rules. Otherwise Journeyman thanks so much for this documentation, gives me different side point of view now.
Well if you never eat any sweets or bread or use cosmetics, then I guess it can be avoided. But I think the point was it is difficult because you have to look on every product if it has palm oil in it. And some people have to go eat something in their lunch break because they can't cook at their place of work. You can take food from home that is already prepared, but you will be called weird by your colleagues and if you also have kids, it will be difficult to get enough time to also cook for your lunch break, so it is not easy at all.
no way That's exactly my point. Not that I don't know how to avoid it, but rather that it is shocking just how much palm oil is used in almost everything! There is almost nothing that it isn't hidden in. I even have to be careful of certain brands of peanut butter. I can't touch margerine and have to use 100% pure butter (which I love anyway 🌹) So many soaps contain it too. As you say, it could be in virtually all cosmetics. It truly is difficult to avoid it unless I check the ingredients of absolutely everything! It's tricky at a birthday or whenever invited out to eat. I stay in hotels for business too. But I just accept it as a way of life now. It worries me more that this industry is decimating wild life, and the only reason why I know the scale and manitude is because I know where they use it. Worse, sometimes in food, they label it as hydrolised vegetable oil! The destruction of natural vegetation and habits is on scale that boggles the mind, for an insatiable market. Thanks for sharing your understanding of the practicalities faced that such an allergy requires.
No way how did humanity manage for thousands of years without it... and much more to do each day? called weird by colleagues indeed.... you chose the wrong life! grow a spine!
You know nothing about my life, I was just stating that it is a choice you have to make and that is is difficult to do because we are used to using convenient fast methods of getting food and there is a pressure from the rest of society. I do cook most of my food myself and I don't mind bringing it with me somewhere else, but I don't think it is easy to make the transition so I understand why someone would find it difficult.
I make sure it's never listed in the ingredients of any food I buy. It not hard buying different brands of peanut butter or nutella etc. Most cookies have it, too.
I live in Southern Malaysia and tons of trees are chopped down for palm oils. Check out satellite image of GUNUNG PULAI - they are clearing lands again. Please save the orang utans, monkeys and beautiful animals living there..
To the independent farmer... Sir I feel your pain 😔 I can see that you're a good man. Jesus loves you and I'm praying that you get a better life for you and your family. I respect you.
The police are the only thing protecting you from the rich actually. You would be a slave without them....who else helps you and who do you call when you need help? Police only.
@@@EternallyGod, I was once a unwilling participant in an armed robbery. I was standing only about four feet from the gunman so I had a very good view of him. After waiting nearly an hour for the police to arrive , they did not even bother to talk with me ! Another time I was robbed . And I knew who did it. The police treated me as if I was the thief. They did not bother to even write up a report ! I never did get my property back. I did get my revenge ! Revenge is a dish best served cold and with much forethought . The police ? Their job is to generate revenue for the local government that employs them. For that , the police receive a generous retirement after 20 years.
Journeyman TV, why sentence your vulnerable sources to imminent death by exposing their identities? This kind of behavior by media people is not responsible. Your story loses its value when you casually and recklessly expose poor, vulnerable people to the threats of powerful corporations and politicians. Someone could easily go 'get' them. The least you can do is cover their faces and identifiable features and clothes. I thought 'protection of your sources' was part of professional journalism. Please do not add to their woes. They gave you information for free. Don't make them pay with their lives for doing so.
stop this! stop it now.. I realize the worlds need for food production but someone should take CHARGE of all these horrible actions. LEAVE THE TREES ALONE. KEEP THE FORREST. C
replacing with other plant-based oils actually worsens the process of deforestation, because palm oil is the most efficient in land use compared to the production of other vegetable oils.
I'm from Indian state of Punjab,, here intensive agricultural practices are in use, water table is falling by 1.20 meters in a year and all the banned Fungicide, weedicide and insecticides that are strictly prohibited in western world are freely used without any hesitation. It's so amusing to see the interviewer asking the illiterate palm oil farmer questions about sustainable agricultural practices. How come when advanced economies of western world are out to exploit the whole of rest of the world just to keep their engines running. Alas! This planet will be inhabitable in the next 50 years. No survivors.
Palm oil also employs over 2 million people and allows them to educate their children for the first time in generations. There are always 2 sides to the coin. I prioritize people especially children first.
I cant believe this is what happening there.. for such long time I'm so jealous and amazed of indonesia and malaysia because of their palm oil and the money it gives to them. I'm from the Philippines btw and our land can't grow palm trees maybe in the south part maybe.
Ręka Sprawiedliwości Money is an illusion. It has no intrinsic value, we project value onto it. Money is a placeholder for desire. Desire is a product of life. Life creates needs. Our insatiable needs are controlling the world.
There's always another way, when they choose to play a role in destroying wild life. They are just as guilty. The corrupted government goes on stage and stupid people applaud them for killing earth. I am ashamed of humans for their evil ways to such a degree that they become the devil and they will never stop until earth becomes hell.
I use ONLY organic, sustainable sourced palm oil products. Currently, I have no foods or products with any labled palm oil in my home. I wish I learned about this years earlier
This is really sad to see... When the farmers want to protect the environment and the government and officials who should be doing instead are the one destroying it. Education on the dark side...
Indonesian and Malaysia is biggest country that produce palm oil... But Malaysia didnt give any problem with that.. didnt give haze to their neighbour country... Indonesia should learn how Malaysia handle its Palm oil plantation... embargo from EU not just effect Indonesia.. but also Malaysia... its not fair..
We must become aware that we know what we eat. Most of the people do not even bother to look at the ingredients. Oh and in addition, not all ingredients are always on the label .. Very sad.
We all must start to say no to Palm OIL. Or at least stop the destruction of the forest to cultivate more palm oil trees. Chose your products and say NO to Palm Oil in the industry and in the Fuel.
Pedro Cercas yeah..we should say NO to CORN OIL, RAPESEED etc and start planting trees on that land too..right?..say NO to CORN OIL, RAPESEED OIL in the industry and in the Fuel.
that's good, ban palm oil, and let's the other Vege oil substitute . Really I dun care. hahahah . let's plough 600% more land (let's do it in yr country!!) just to produce the same amount of oil produced per hactre of palm oil. hahahahaha...
Thru out history people will never change, there is always issues that cause come up that come up that division and fighting and death, why am i saying this, Simple, put your ultimate trust in a place where nobody can take it, Heaven,!!!,, Matthew 6:19-20 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
This is tragic to watch, especially because one must realize when seeing this that no matter where one lives, this will affect a neighborhood nearby sooner than one might think. Given that the local governments are not providing any sort of legal or other redress to the landowners; that the gov'ts are subsidizing the price of palm oil, and that several international companies are profiting handsomely from this ongoing process, one might well wonder when we will start to see an exodus of economic refugees from this area of the world joining the current flood. At a yield of over 10K lbs/acre, and a lifespan of 25 years, the profit potential that drives this process is not going to subside in the near future.
Indonesia needs money. Would Europe feeds 250million of Indonesians, dont just blame Indonesia ! It's just business war. Euro's non palm oil products is so expensive !
this video such as black campaign for Palm oil..FYI there's a trade war between Palm oil and any other vegetable oil such as sunflower oil ,soybean oil etc.. if we compare Palm oil with any other vegetable oil in terms of the needs of land, Palm oil is most effective, most efficient plant to produce vegetable oil for the world,because it can produce 4 ton/ha, meanwhile the sunflower oil just produce 0,6 ton/ha and soybean oil 0,4 ton/ha.. so why we don't talk about 122 million hectare deforestation of massive effect by soybean oil, we even fuss Palm oil with just 16 million hectare, if we truly adheres to the principle of trade fairness, we won't do this to Indonesia.
Agree with this,, palm oil is bad, but what about soya beans? Or sunflower, it just because palm oil is cheaper and rich coutry couldn't grow it so it's bad.
I’m kind of at a loss by their presidents speech. How in the world are these struggling poor farmers supposed to yield the same output as the bigger organizations?! How?
Developed countries will always have something negative to report especially when it comes to agro products that can only be produced in the developing world and not in their own countries. First it was natural rubber, then palm oil, followed by cocoa and coffee, and shrimp, talapia....what's next? Cashews? Avacodos? Salmon? These developing countries are trying to improve the living conditions for their people. Give them a chance to catch up.
Palm oil itself is not the problem, it's the unsustainable practices these people are using that's the problem. If the industry used more sustainable practices, it may increase the price $1 per bottle, but it would be worth it.
Why are people so ignorant to the fact trees provide our oxygen and clear the air of our pollution. We pollute more and have destroyed more forest than ever. The scale of balance was tipped to pollution winning over 30 years ago. Yet we continue to cut down, burn, and destroy the remaining forest. The last two years we've seen a record number of forest and wild fires across the globe. All of the pollution these tree, some ancient, clean out of the air and stored is released back into the air when it burns. Add to that all of the added pollution from more and more civilized, modern countries with huge populations and you have more pollution than ever. Palm trees don't store pollution or produce as much oxygen as other trees. Because palm fronds are cut and are burned or decompose all the carbon pollution scrubbed from the air is released again. With large trees the carbon is stored in the wood. Only when this wood is burned or decomposes is the carbon it collected released. Therefore it is in our best interest to plant more trees, do even better at preventing man created forest and wildfires, and set aside more land for forest preservation and replanting to safe guard from future deforestation. One tree can only produce enough oxygen for two people. A mature tree can only store a maximum of 48 pounds of carbon dioxide a year. That's a 100" evergreen conifer like a pine, or cedar. In America the average carbon dioxide per person emited each year is 21.8 tons. This means for every American they need 902 100" evergreen conifers. That's just America. This doesn't take into consideration all of the desert countries with no forests. Or the countries where forest's are being burned to make way for other crops. Or the developing countries with no emissions stands on their vehicles or industrial emisions. Trees also shade the ground from the hot sun. Meaning the moisture level and temperature in a forest is regulated. With the trees gone more and more moisture is evaporating killing other plants and animals due to loss of habitat and food supply. Rivers dry up. Ground water dries up. The soil begins to lose all organic matter, turning it into dust and sand. Rain comes but the ground can't absorb it. This leads to flooding and landslides. Both of which strip more nutrients and trees from the land. We are on a collision course. The train to disaster has already left the station. We can only slow it down by taking counter measures by replanting vast forests, stopping all intentional burning of forests to make way for crops, burning of crop harvest waste, burning of coal (one of the worst fuels), finding artificial means to remove carbon gases from the atmosphere, building greener, and reversing our dependency of fossil fuels. New pollution records were recorded across the globe this year. Some records exceeded records set last year. Mandating LED lighting in cities which rely partially or solely on coal power plants would be a start. Yes jobs will be lost. However, bringing in a new industry or factory via tax incentives, retraining programs, and early retirement programs would ease the transition. Mandating solar (built in a green factory) be installed on every new home built. Initially home will have big ugly solar panels. But soon customers will demand builders use solar tiles. Solar tiles will become cheaper as more and more manufacturers join in, and the manufacturing process becomes cheaper, faster, and better. Car are charged up with solar power. Solar technology has improved a lot, will continue to improve and capture more energy with smaller and smaller panels. Pollution from manufacturing will need to be captured even more than is currently regulated. We've found a way to capture carbon from the air, we just haven't developed a disposal program everyone can agree on or feels safe with. However, as always, mankind will find a solution. This solution must be viable and rolled out globally before it is too late. We can all do our part now by further reducing our carbon footprint. Plant trees, use LEDs (these also help reduce heat and pollution. Heat that is actually have an effect on rising temperatures. Other effects are the energy needed to power air conditioning to reduce the temperature inside to combat the heat from incandescent bulbs and the energy needed to for the bulbs to operate.), buy a more efficient vehicles, buy into your power companies green power source (our power company has a small portfolio of green energy suppliers. We pay a little extra to symbolically receive this green energy. The extra we pay goes towards building more green energy sources in the region. The goal is to close the coal power plant. Currently the coal power plant provides the majority of our electricity. Which seems insane. But with the constant new housing being built year round to meet the demand, renewable energy supply can't keep up with the new demand. We've even run into issues with our water pressure due to the added housing. Just last night I couldn't get my sprinkler to move side to side because there wasn't enough water pressure at 21:00. I live North of Seattle. Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada. I could go on for hours. Just please do what you can and encourage others to do the same. The more our young learn ways to reduce their carbon footprint in school, the more they will shame their parents into changing. When I was a kid it was all about recycling. We shamed our parents to the point of change. Now recycling is a habit. We do it automatically without thinking. Except for public recycling bin. People are still not paying attention to what bin they use because their face is buried in their phones. Ok. Ok. Enough from me. Cheers from Seattle.
That was in 2018, four years ago and things at least in Malaysia are changing......But palm oil is still not a good crop for smallholders unless cultivated with intercropping for food and alternative cash revenue streams. To expect world demand for palm oil can be reduced is delusional.
Hey dude those protesters blocking your roads right now are part of this group Extinction Rebellion, I made videos to help spot propaganda you should check out.
Air Pollution levels were 3000% above the threatening legal limit ?? Indonesia is such a beautiful country, insha allah things will get better for the Indonesian people.
saya orang indonesia asli yg hidup dilingkungan perkebunan sawit. seharusnya anda mewawancarai banyak petani yang makmur hidupnya dikarenakan perkebunan sawit ini biar lebih adil. terimakasih
Cadbury milk chocolate (the stuff made with vegetable oil) in the U.K. used to be the best. Then Kraft bought Cadbury and the Dairy Milk bar doesn't taste the same. Nestle ruined KitKat years ago- I call it Marmite cos it tastes 'meaty'. Mars Co. is about the only one left that tastes like it always has. Palm oil and other CHEAP inged.s are the reason.
The president's action at 27:56 speaks louder than words and shows how much he actually cares about the environment. Just toss your rubbish on the floor, why even care about the natural world you have to live in?
He said "tenaga asing" literally means foreigners, and you didn't even bother translating what he said correctly. Journeyman Pictures, I am disappointed watching you slowly become the likes of CNN and Vice.
The only way this changes, is by shaming the consumer-facing businesses involved. Unilever was mentioned, but I work for Nestle, and they are a huge culprit as well. Shame these companies, into owning the problem, and finding real solutions.
Today I was shopping and picked up a packet of biscuits. As usual I read the list of ingredients any noticed it contained palm oil. I put the biscuits back on the shelf. These people would not have a problem if we don't buy products cotaining plm oil.
it is used for literally everything. china and every other country has no problem using it. those people need a new government and to follow safety regulations. they cannot do so because of their leaders.
So what the alternative, palm oil give higher yield oil per hectare of planting, soy oil, canola oil, or even corn oil need bigger land to produce equal quantity of oil. You stop palm oil they just change the crops to soy, peanut, corn or any oil producing crops but that's mean bigger land were needed.
~5:30. Burning down forest to clear the land? WTF? Why can't you log them instead? It's ok to use some forest for agricultural purpose, but indiscriminate burning is not.
feel so sad when I see deforestation which mother earth nurtured for 100s of years to get it to support a wide variety of wildlife.......we are about 7.5 billion people and rising rapidly...........we need the population to go down and demand to go down by recycle reuse and reduce the consumption......
yess I am Indonesian and I am disappointed with my country which allows the cultivation of very large oil palm. thus making many animals and plants have no place to live. I am very concerned about what is happening in my country that makes a big negative impact for the whole world. But indonesia also give positive impact that all product we can use every day contain palm oil and most of lokal employee can get money to feed their children and wive.but yah I hope we can choose a better things than this (palm oil). Please, who is the country other than Indonesia who wants to replace palm oil to meet the daily product needs in this world.
If you get rid of palm oil, what replaces it? Something far more destructive? Because there is a tendency to ignore that reality. Think about all of the lives destroyed, the poverty created by destroying a thriving industry as well.
People complaining about use of environmental resources, stop consuming anything that is not made within your reach. Stop using anything other than renewable local electricity and get out of the Internet.
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If we all do something this will stop! If nobody buys products with palm oil, the market will disappear and the harvesting of it will disappear with it, this is caused by greed of companies, not necessity.
This Video is @watchdogimage Production, why you not linked the original Video in your description box? is this channel part of Watchdog Indonesia? have you permission from them?
This is just too depressing. When the Government is for sale to the highest bidder, the people lose all their Rights.
Government itself represents a loss of rights. Most profoundly, our human birthrights.
@@maytons ......I'm not a huge fan of Governments. But I think even less of anarchy.
Some people can't seem to understand you have to go along to get along.
@@Stephen-cr3sc The burden of proof is in your court since Statism has ruled this declining planet for a few thousand years now. PS- It doesn't look good in case your eyes were glued shut. The governing authorities in this film sold the vast forests for profit. Guess it's not as depressing as you initially stated.
@@maytons cause it’s even more depressing than that, indeed
exactly
I think corruption is just as universal a language as math.
Corruption customs culture
More so, unfortunately.
yeah
There’s a word for it it’s called agriculture
that is actually such a wise quote
Always look for who gets benifited the most. Question everything before you accept anything . This is a war between rich and poor .
rich always win. Useless fight. and useless statement you made
It’s not rich vs poor it’s nature vs agriculture and the industrial revolution
Most of snacks in the supermarket contain palm oil, this stuff is everywhere. Reading the ingredient list is a must
the conversation with the poor man really hit me, it really show how powerless and impotent they are with all the pressure from the big company and their own government
Since the 1600's the Dutch East India Company has been doing this to these people with the spice trades. All the money built Amsterdam, London and other cities incredible wealth: tourist destinations to this day.
The greed of man knows no morality nor boundaries. Greed's existence has shaped our world and will continue on as long as man exists or enlightenment is found.
First they Steal their Forrest then they Starv them and Force them to Slave for them ...Its Sickening..!!
But how do you own the forest, or land or property? Is it not up to the government? I'm sure you're not a native of your house for the past thousands of years.
This is how elites control the population. we are their cattle. they harvest profits from us . understand this very technique, is used all around the world in diffrent sectors ; industrial agricultural , buisness , politics etc. most importantly in education : you are not educated u are indoctrinated to become an obidient worker who doesnot doubt and serves well to the upper class .
we are been keept dumb . you have to bresk free somehow by getting liberated from this nonsene software of the society .
Proud to not be European
*forest *starve
@@sudarshanchatterjee6911 lol you guys are hilarious. Do you actually think the common european citizen has anything to do with this? Europeans are themselves slaves of the same corporations. It's not like there's a racial selection.
“Forest is home to Gods. From it, we get everything”. Enough said!
WWF is a world leader in promoting palm oil...and folks think they are a conservation organization...
Do you have a link to back that up? All I could find is that they are informing about the negative effects and that they are promoting certified palm oil that is supposed to environmentally friendly and does not expel people from their land. But most of the time those organizations that give out certificates for money are shady, so I wouldn't trust that either.
no way
Google RSPO - palm oil.
and we dun just give certificate for monies.lolsz.
no crop is environmental friendly!! what we can do is sustainable n responsible.
Palm oil is most efficient n sustainable crop. hope you take the time to read several website. mainly from us producers country.
BeeFriendlyApiary That is sickening! I have never donated to them because I find large organizations usually only pay for their overhead and running up there corporations and companies and very little money goes to the actual cause
But thank you!
WWF is like the royal family's personal hunting passport... to hunt endangered animals.
Human Greed knows no bounds,
I wish I could send the farmer at 16:30 some money or something
*Capitalism on steroids.*
We can all do something. I stopped buying cookies that have palm oil in them, for example.
sugar? fish? milk? eggs? stopped them too? how bout your car? lawnmower? shoes?
well done
but to even make a little difference
youll have to repeat your action for a 100 years
you and a hundred thousand friends
Ceasing consumption is not the answer. You'd eventually hurt these poor farmers. Sustainability doesn't mean damaging practices cease from being carried out. It just mean that mitigating measures are put in place to limit the damage. Of course, it doesn't work because there's no incentive to be sustainable for the corporations as they have to spend more money and this additional cost chipped away their profit margin. The entire supply chain need to be revamped.
epOso, well it's a start!
epSos de ,
Yes, palm oil is in so many products. Just as GMO corn syrup is also in so many products. BUT , we can collectively STOP buying it ! I no longer buy anything with corn syrup in it. Nor anything with commercial corn in it. Such as corn flakes cereal. We have to watch because corn syrup is not the only sweetener that is made from GMO corn ! Soy beans are also GMO so I no longer buy any vegetable oil. Even Canola oil is now GMO. Olive oil is still clean. Much wheat is also now GMO ! Yup , no more Wheaties ! And no more bread. I am too fat anyway . If I can get some certified non-GMO wheat seed I can always grow my own patch of wheat and grind my own flour. Which by including the whole wheat berry is much healthier for me anyway.
Haven't you ever wondered why the settlers of the 1800's were so strong ?
They consumed the whole wheat berry. It is the modern corporations that has learned how to separate the wheat berry into other products , which give us less nourishment.
Land clearing for palm oil.
Land clearing for oil.
Land clearing for diamonds.
Land clearing for gold.
Land clearing for gas.
Land clearing for precious stones.
Land clearing for coal.
Land clearing for farming.
Land clearing for development.
Land clearing for infrastructure.
Land clearing for rubber plantations.
It will never end in our lifetime.
The law of supply and demand will not allow it.
Most lifestyles aren't sustainable if our population remains what it is today.
The Positive feedback loop is occuring.
It will end only after 80% of the population dies
The rich get richer the poor get poorer .how fair is that?????
Why, the poors buys the products from the richs :-)
BlackSpider4 UNIVERSE peace. Apathy is keeping them rich. Not enough people will take action.
Every country has/had to go through the same phase though? Just because some countries developed earlier does not mean they were not oppressed or poor before in history?
And talking about modern day, have you seen how SINGAPORE has achieved 3rd to 1st world in a matter of 50 years? If you keep having the poor people getting fucked in the arse mentality, it will get you nowhere.
Boycotting Palm oil in consumer goods is not enough. Consumers must reach out to companies through social media, websites, emails and let them know why you will no longer support their product and why so called sustainable palm oil is not a good alternative either. It’s vital companies hear from consumers.
Living in the US I've never heard about the scale of use of Palm oil. It is very sad that a wonderful natural resource can be turned into a environmental and societal disaster. Money is the root of all evil.
The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Money itself (real money, not digits or paper) makes the world go round.
All money is just digits and paper. People need food, not gold.
U say this thing after u guys rape ur own land?..good joke..it's so funny👏
"You guys" huh? Listen there buddy who doubtfully knows anything about this country, I live in Columbia County New York. I am surrounded by dairy farms and beautiful forests. I trout fish every spring, and hunt every winter in beautiful lakes, streams and forests. I have not destroyed or defaced anything. There are most certainly scumbags on every continent. Seems to me that you are the one joking.
u sure r funny..how about the thousand or million of acres of land u guys used for corn..soy..rapeseed etc?..think before u comment..do not live like a frog under the bowl Buddy..it's really funny on how the thought process of some people Buddy👏
The problem is not the palm oil itself. It's the greed of those corporations and the greed of the farmers themselves too. And the government also turning a blind eye over what's happening. But still the one with the bigger role to play is the government. If those companies did what they're doing in Europe or America, they'd already be insolvent right now paying all the fines.
Its government corruption
Here in the u.s, corporations have basically complete control of the government. They want a bill to pass it passes. Why break the law when you can change it.
I need ur help about palm oil
Journeyman, You Did *VERY WELL* job, half of it it's true, but in my experience, there is some other variable that causes these farmer problems. When we said that they barely made it daily because low wage/low paid it's doesn't just that simple, there is some variable like they spend money on cigarettes/tuak (coconut fermentation drink). Safety equipment it's not something that they can't afford to buy requirement safety but they just don't want to make it more complicated, they aren't comfortable using this equipment (I talk about farmer outside the Company employee) so they end ed up not using proper equipment. RSPO certified? Hell No, this is far from what you Europeans expect. *In palm oil farm except for big company like Wilmar etc, I can guarantee you that even the PRIVATE OWNER FARM still never heard about RSPO certification.* In 22:51 "I don't know anything, I just want to sell", this is 100% true. I'm not saying this is right but they don't have the education and the profit are not that much so they could spend on high quality or certification rules.
Otherwise Journeyman thanks so much for this documentation, gives me different side point of view now.
And it's in everything! I have an allergy to it and it's extremely difficult to avoid.
Nikki. It is not difficult to avoid just stop eating SHIT! whole foods, no plastic, hunt,gather... stop being a fool.
Well if you never eat any sweets or bread or use cosmetics, then I guess it can be avoided. But I think the point was it is difficult because you have to look on every product if it has palm oil in it. And some people have to go eat something in their lunch break because they can't cook at their place of work. You can take food from home that is already prepared, but you will be called weird by your colleagues and if you also have kids, it will be difficult to get enough time to also cook for your lunch break, so it is not easy at all.
no way That's exactly my point. Not that I don't know how to avoid it, but rather that it is shocking just how much palm oil is used in almost everything! There is almost nothing that it isn't hidden in.
I even have to be careful of certain brands of peanut butter. I can't touch margerine and have to use 100% pure butter (which I love anyway 🌹)
So many soaps contain it too. As you say, it could be in virtually all cosmetics. It truly is difficult to avoid it unless I check the ingredients of absolutely everything!
It's tricky at a birthday or whenever invited out to eat. I stay in hotels for business too. But I just accept it as a way of life now. It worries me more that this industry is decimating wild life, and the only reason why I know the scale and manitude is because I know where they use it.
Worse, sometimes in food, they label it as hydrolised vegetable oil! The destruction of natural vegetation and habits is on scale that boggles the mind, for an insatiable market.
Thanks for sharing your understanding of the practicalities faced that such an allergy requires.
No way how did humanity manage for thousands of years without it... and much more to do each day? called weird by colleagues indeed.... you chose the wrong life! grow a spine!
You know nothing about my life, I was just stating that it is a choice you have to make and that is is difficult to do because we are used to using convenient fast methods of getting food and there is a pressure from the rest of society. I do cook most of my food myself and I don't mind bringing it with me somewhere else, but I don't think it is easy to make the transition so I understand why someone would find it difficult.
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I make sure it's never listed in the ingredients of any food I buy. It not hard buying different brands of peanut butter or nutella etc. Most cookies have it, too.
We are not addicted to it - Big Business is. It is imposed on us.
True
I live in Southern Malaysia and tons of trees are chopped down for palm oils. Check out satellite image of GUNUNG PULAI - they are clearing lands again. Please save the orang utans, monkeys and beautiful animals living there..
To the independent farmer... Sir I feel your pain 😔 I can see that you're a good man. Jesus loves you and I'm praying that you get a better life for you and your family. I respect you.
The black smoke coming out of the palm oil factory at 19:49 tells me that it probably isn't very environmentally friendly.
the police, your friend and protector ....... "of the rich"
realPandarama ,
And of the Democrats since they ARE the rich !
Did you watch the video? The problem stems from the European Union's RULES that "biofuels" replace fossil fuels! Open your eyes!
The police are the only thing protecting you from the rich actually. You would be a slave without them....who else helps you and who do you call when you need help? Police only.
@@@EternallyGod,
I was once a unwilling participant in an armed robbery. I was standing only about four feet from the gunman so I had a very good view of him. After waiting nearly an hour for the police to arrive , they did not even bother to talk with me ! Another time I was robbed . And I knew who did it. The police treated me as if I was the thief. They did not bother to even write up a report ! I never did get my property back. I did get my revenge ! Revenge is a dish best served cold and with much forethought . The police ? Their job is to generate revenue for the local government that employs them. For that , the police receive a generous retirement after 20 years.
@@donaldmiller8629 I dont want to talk to you either. Am i a bad guy also?
Consumers aren't the ones addicted to Palm oil. It's the corporations adding it processed food that we never asked for to save a dollar.
Journeyman TV, why sentence your vulnerable sources to imminent death by exposing their identities? This kind of behavior by media people is not responsible. Your story loses its value when you casually and recklessly expose poor, vulnerable people to the threats of powerful corporations and politicians. Someone could easily go 'get' them. The least you can do is cover their faces and identifiable features and clothes. I thought 'protection of your sources' was part of professional journalism. Please do not add to their woes. They gave you information for free. Don't make them pay with their lives for doing so.
Journeyman TV doesn't make the documentry they just upload it to youtube
stop this! stop it now.. I realize the worlds need for food production but someone should take CHARGE of all these horrible actions.
LEAVE THE TREES ALONE. KEEP THE FORREST. C
Go plant on your country first, your ancestors has killed so much and cleared so much from so called 1st world country.
Gee Gee yes but it wasn’t her it was her ancestors
Sunset Vlogs So shut up. Replant your forest first. Always a moral superior. 500 years ago its GOD GOLD and GLORY. Today its Democrazy and Freebomb.
Sunset Vlogs so..u just go off scot free if the wrongdoing was done by ur ancestor?..BS..DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
Arshat here owns a palm oil plantation. Please forgive him.
it makes me sick the world is getting completely destroyed and next to nothing is done about it
replacing with other plant-based oils actually worsens the process of deforestation, because palm oil is the most efficient in land use compared to the production of other vegetable oils.
I'm from Indian state of Punjab,, here intensive agricultural practices are in use, water table is falling by 1.20 meters in a year and all the banned Fungicide, weedicide and insecticides that are strictly prohibited in western world are freely used without any hesitation. It's so amusing to see the interviewer asking the illiterate palm oil farmer questions about sustainable agricultural practices. How come when advanced economies of western world are out to exploit the whole of rest of the world just to keep their engines running. Alas! This planet will be inhabitable in the next 50 years. No survivors.
Palm oil also employs over 2 million people and allows them to educate their children for the first time in generations. There are always 2 sides to the coin. I prioritize people especially children first.
People of Indonesia should arm themselves and rise up against corrupted government and chase out all corporations.
I love your channel. Please make more videos
I cant believe this is what happening there.. for such long time I'm so jealous and amazed of indonesia and malaysia because of their palm oil and the money it gives to them. I'm from the Philippines btw and our land can't grow palm trees maybe in the south part maybe.
Poor people 😢 Money is controlling the world.
Ręka Sprawiedliwości Money is an illusion. It has no intrinsic value, we project value onto it. Money is a placeholder for desire. Desire is a product of life. Life creates needs. Our insatiable needs are controlling the world.
crazitaco Money is a food, food is a life. People can kill or die to live
Ręka Sprawiedliwości
Greed and its sad.
There's always another way, when they choose to play a role in destroying wild life. They are just as guilty. The corrupted government goes on stage and stupid people applaud them for killing earth. I am ashamed of humans for their evil ways to such a degree that they become the devil and they will never stop until earth becomes hell.
23:00 "Ethical? ... i don't understand.." lmfao!!
I use ONLY organic, sustainable sourced palm oil products.
Currently, I have no foods or products with any labled palm oil in my home.
I wish I learned about this years earlier
Finally.
This is really sad to see... When the farmers want to protect the environment and the government and officials who should be doing instead are the one destroying it. Education on the dark side...
3 months, imagine having to live in smoke for 3 months 9,000 dead and so many more permanently effected
Indonesian and Malaysia is biggest country that produce palm oil... But Malaysia didnt give any problem with that.. didnt give haze to their neighbour country... Indonesia should learn how Malaysia handle its Palm oil plantation... embargo from EU not just effect Indonesia.. but also Malaysia... its not fair..
Our family reads ingredients lists. We AVOID palm oil containing products, because we do not believe such to be healthy.
We must become aware that we know what we eat. Most of the people do not even bother to look at the ingredients. Oh and in addition, not all ingredients are always on the label .. Very sad.
Thanks for the info 👍
The problem is Indonesia...not palm oil....many other countries produce palm oil and don't behave this way to the people and environment.
yep
Yeah let's blame the native, indigenous people again when the one who owns those corporation usually is not even native/ indonesian
@Mauri Mela did I say anything about Jews?
Those palm oil corporations belongs to multi national company such as Singapore and Malaysia.
I need ur help about palm oil
I didn't know that the World Wrestling Federation was involved in the palm oil business.
😆 I know, I thought same also. While its kinda 😂, the subjet matter here is damn serious.
I hope your joking
We all must start to say no to Palm OIL. Or at least stop the destruction of the forest to cultivate more palm oil trees. Chose your products and say NO to Palm Oil in the industry and in the Fuel.
Pedro Cercas yeah..we should say NO to CORN OIL, RAPESEED etc and start planting trees on that land too..right?..say NO to CORN OIL, RAPESEED OIL in the industry and in the Fuel.
that's good, ban palm oil, and let's the other Vege oil substitute . Really I dun care. hahahah . let's plough 600% more land (let's do it in yr country!!) just to produce the same amount of oil produced per hactre of palm oil. hahahahaha...
maybe synthetic palm oil, made from sewage?
I need ur help about palm oil plz rply
Literally next vacation I might have to skip Mexico and visit the rainforest before they cut it all down
Thru out history people will never change, there is always issues that cause come up that come up that division and fighting and death, why am i saying this, Simple, put your ultimate trust in a place where nobody can take it, Heaven,!!!,, Matthew 6:19-20 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Imagine how beautiful Earth would have been without humans. With humans, Earth is not a perfect design.
Or without monarchy
100% agree. Wtf are we doing here?
You need infinity gauntlet...
Other than the respectful tribe people.
I think this everyday
This is tragic to watch, especially because one must realize when seeing this that no matter where one lives, this will affect a neighborhood nearby sooner than one might think. Given that the local governments are not providing any sort of legal or other redress to the landowners; that the gov'ts are subsidizing the price of palm oil, and that several international companies are profiting handsomely from this ongoing process, one might well wonder when we will start to see an exodus of economic refugees from this area of the world joining the current flood. At a yield of over 10K lbs/acre, and a lifespan of 25 years, the profit potential that drives this process is not going to subside in the near future.
I need ur help about palm oil
Sugar cane fields would work in the swampy parts. Alcohol can be destilled from the cane juice.
Indonesia needs money. Would Europe feeds 250million of Indonesians, dont just blame Indonesia ! It's just business war. Euro's non palm oil products is so expensive !
Is there a foundation or charity I can support to get behind this? Thanks
this president is so funny, to compare a giant company to independent farmer so easily and blame them for not progressing , damn son
THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
this video such as black campaign for Palm oil..FYI there's a trade war between Palm oil and any other vegetable oil such as sunflower oil ,soybean oil etc.. if we compare Palm oil with any other vegetable oil in terms of the needs of land, Palm oil is most effective, most efficient plant to produce vegetable oil for the world,because it can produce 4 ton/ha, meanwhile the sunflower oil just produce 0,6 ton/ha and soybean oil 0,4 ton/ha.. so why we don't talk about 122 million hectare deforestation of massive effect by soybean oil, we even fuss Palm oil with just 16 million hectare, if we truly adheres to the principle of trade fairness, we won't do this to Indonesia.
Agree with this,, palm oil is bad, but what about soya beans? Or sunflower, it just because palm oil is cheaper and rich coutry couldn't grow it so it's bad.
Rusty J. Ryan good mind.... I think so bro..
what does any of this have to do with the issues of deforestation, land theft and people being treated like slaves?
What it has to do with it is that the alternatives to palm oil are possibly even worse since more land (deforestation) is needed to produce them.
ALL oil companies are bad and should follow the rules but no company gives an F.
Nothing can stop this!!God bless 🙏🙏
I’m kind of at a loss by their presidents speech. How in the world are these struggling poor farmers supposed to yield the same output as the bigger organizations?! How?
Developed countries will always have something negative to report especially when it comes to agro products that can only be produced in the developing world and not in their own countries. First it was natural rubber, then palm oil, followed by cocoa and coffee, and shrimp, talapia....what's next? Cashews? Avacodos? Salmon? These developing countries are trying to improve the living conditions for their people. Give them a chance to catch up.
Palm oil itself is not the problem, it's the unsustainable practices these people are using that's the problem. If the industry used more sustainable practices, it may increase the price $1 per bottle, but it would be worth it.
Why are people so ignorant to the fact trees provide our oxygen and clear the air of our pollution. We pollute more and have destroyed more forest than ever. The scale of balance was tipped to pollution winning over 30 years ago. Yet we continue to cut down, burn, and destroy the remaining forest. The last two years we've seen a record number of forest and wild fires across the globe. All of the pollution these tree, some ancient, clean out of the air and stored is released back into the air when it burns. Add to that all of the added pollution from more and more civilized, modern countries with huge populations and you have more pollution than ever. Palm trees don't store pollution or produce as much oxygen as other trees. Because palm fronds are cut and are burned or decompose all the carbon pollution scrubbed from the air is released again. With large trees the carbon is stored in the wood. Only when this wood is burned or decomposes is the carbon it collected released. Therefore it is in our best interest to plant more trees, do even better at preventing man created forest and wildfires, and set aside more land for forest preservation and replanting to safe guard from future deforestation. One tree can only produce enough oxygen for two people. A mature tree can only store a maximum of 48 pounds of carbon dioxide a year. That's a 100" evergreen conifer like a pine, or cedar. In America the average carbon dioxide per person emited each year is 21.8 tons. This means for every American they need 902 100" evergreen conifers. That's just America. This doesn't take into consideration all of the desert countries with no forests. Or the countries where forest's are being burned to make way for other crops. Or the developing countries with no emissions stands on their vehicles or industrial emisions. Trees also shade the ground from the hot sun. Meaning the moisture level and temperature in a forest is regulated. With the trees gone more and more moisture is evaporating killing other plants and animals due to loss of habitat and food supply. Rivers dry up. Ground water dries up. The soil begins to lose all organic matter, turning it into dust and sand. Rain comes but the ground can't absorb it. This leads to flooding and landslides. Both of which strip more nutrients and trees from the land. We are on a collision course. The train to disaster has already left the station. We can only slow it down by taking counter measures by replanting vast forests, stopping all intentional burning of forests to make way for crops, burning of crop harvest waste, burning of coal (one of the worst fuels), finding artificial means to remove carbon gases from the atmosphere, building greener, and reversing our dependency of fossil fuels. New pollution records were recorded across the globe this year. Some records exceeded records set last year.
Mandating LED lighting in cities which rely partially or solely on coal power plants would be a start. Yes jobs will be lost. However, bringing in a new industry or factory via tax incentives, retraining programs, and early retirement programs would ease the transition. Mandating solar (built in a green factory) be installed on every new home built. Initially home will have big ugly solar panels. But soon customers will demand builders use solar tiles. Solar tiles will become cheaper as more and more manufacturers join in, and the manufacturing process becomes cheaper, faster, and better. Car are charged up with solar power. Solar technology has improved a lot, will continue to improve and capture more energy with smaller and smaller panels. Pollution from manufacturing will need to be captured even more than is currently regulated. We've found a way to capture carbon from the air, we just haven't developed a disposal program everyone can agree on or feels safe with. However, as always, mankind will find a solution. This solution must be viable and rolled out globally before it is too late.
We can all do our part now by further reducing our carbon footprint. Plant trees, use LEDs (these also help reduce heat and pollution. Heat that is actually have an effect on rising temperatures. Other effects are the energy needed to power air conditioning to reduce the temperature inside to combat the heat from incandescent bulbs and the energy needed to for the bulbs to operate.), buy a more efficient vehicles, buy into your power companies green power source (our power company has a small portfolio of green energy suppliers. We pay a little extra to symbolically receive this green energy. The extra we pay goes towards building more green energy sources in the region. The goal is to close the coal power plant. Currently the coal power plant provides the majority of our electricity. Which seems insane. But with the constant new housing being built year round to meet the demand, renewable energy supply can't keep up with the new demand. We've even run into issues with our water pressure due to the added housing. Just last night I couldn't get my sprinkler to move side to side because there wasn't enough water pressure at 21:00. I live North of Seattle.
Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada. I could go on for hours. Just please do what you can and encourage others to do the same. The more our young learn ways to reduce their carbon footprint in school, the more they will shame their parents into changing. When I was a kid it was all about recycling. We shamed our parents to the point of change. Now recycling is a habit. We do it automatically without thinking. Except for public recycling bin. People are still not paying attention to what bin they use because their face is buried in their phones.
Ok. Ok. Enough from me.
Cheers from Seattle.
Thanks for the share Journey Pics
That was in 2018, four years ago and things at least in Malaysia are changing......But palm oil is still not a good crop for smallholders unless cultivated with intercropping for food and alternative cash revenue streams. To expect world demand for palm oil can be reduced is delusional.
Here in Canada, canola oil is used more often in many cases. Still, palm oil is ever present.
Hey dude those protesters blocking your roads right now are part of this group Extinction Rebellion, I made videos to help spot propaganda you should check out.
Probably why every thing seems to give me heartburn these days
wrong
Air Pollution levels were 3000% above the threatening legal limit ?? Indonesia is such a beautiful country, insha allah things will get better for the Indonesian people.
saya orang indonesia asli yg hidup dilingkungan perkebunan sawit. seharusnya anda mewawancarai banyak petani yang makmur hidupnya dikarenakan perkebunan sawit ini biar lebih adil. terimakasih
More countries need to ban palm oil and products that contain it.
And yes they need to stop eating too stop eating meat or chicken too
Cadbury milk chocolate (the stuff made with vegetable oil) in the U.K. used to be the best. Then Kraft bought Cadbury and the Dairy Milk bar doesn't taste the same. Nestle ruined KitKat years ago- I call it Marmite cos it tastes 'meaty'. Mars Co. is about the only one left that tastes like it always has. Palm oil and other CHEAP inged.s are the reason.
The president's action at 27:56 speaks louder than words and shows how much he actually cares about the environment. Just toss your rubbish on the floor, why even care about the natural world you have to live in?
He said "tenaga asing" literally means foreigners, and you didn't even bother translating what he said correctly.
Journeyman Pictures, I am disappointed watching you slowly become the likes of CNN and Vice.
chemicals and pesticides in the food chain are the worst problems for human health
thank you this very helpful for my geography assignment
All that fertilizer runs off into somewhere! Why don't the people who run the country say NO???
The only way this changes, is by shaming the consumer-facing businesses involved. Unilever was mentioned, but I work for Nestle, and they are a huge culprit as well. Shame these companies, into owning the problem, and finding real solutions.
20 Kg (44 Lbs) of rice every 15 days and it's not enough for your family? 16:42
How big is his family?
I want to quote some of this. Do you have a reference list?
Today I was shopping and picked up a packet of biscuits. As usual I read the list of ingredients any noticed it contained palm oil. I put the biscuits back on the shelf. These people would not have a problem if we don't buy products cotaining plm oil.
MaleAdaptor hey..I do the same with product containing corn oil..soy..rapeseed oil etc😊
how bout sugar? gas? oil? fish? sushi, whalemeat.... stopped all that too? back on the shelf, demand, creates supply people, just like booze and drugs
it is used for literally everything. china and every other country has no problem using it. those people need a new government and to follow safety regulations. they cannot do so because of their leaders.
they hide it too by just calling it "vegetable oil"
So what the alternative, palm oil give higher yield oil per hectare of planting, soy oil, canola oil, or even corn oil need bigger land to produce equal quantity of oil. You stop palm oil they just change the crops to soy, peanut, corn or any oil producing crops but that's mean bigger land were needed.
~5:30. Burning down forest to clear the land? WTF? Why can't you log them instead? It's ok to use some forest for agricultural purpose, but indiscriminate burning is not.
feel so sad when I see deforestation which mother earth nurtured for 100s of years to get it to support a wide variety of wildlife.......we are about 7.5 billion people and rising rapidly...........we need the population to go down and demand to go down by recycle reuse and reduce the consumption......
yess I am Indonesian and I am disappointed with my country which allows the cultivation of very large oil palm. thus making many animals and plants have no place to live. I am very concerned about what is happening in my country that makes a big negative impact for the whole world. But indonesia also give positive impact that all product we can use every day contain palm oil and most of lokal employee can get money to feed their children and wive.but yah I hope we can choose a better things than this (palm oil). Please, who is the country other than Indonesia who wants to replace palm oil to meet the daily product needs in this world.
Don't they have law and order to protect the people
Haha Show me anywhere where "law and order" protect the people.
Why Lie Unfortunately none, yet hoping to find somewhere?
Al Demir it's Indonesia. They are pretty good about using shariah law to oppress the gay, but when it comes to anything else, corruption is king
Osley Sallent Nothing but a shame, obviously there is no real freedom anywhere in the world, thanks
That is like Philippines in 1980s. I thought rampant land grabbing is obsolete.
If you get rid of palm oil, what replaces it? Something far more destructive? Because there is a tendency to ignore that reality. Think about all of the lives destroyed, the poverty created by destroying a thriving industry as well.
People complaining about use of environmental resources, stop consuming anything that is not made within your reach. Stop using anything other than renewable local electricity and get out of the Internet.
Stop the cruelty towards humans. Eat animal fats! Plus, its better for your health and the environment. And I'm not being ironic, I genuinely mean it.
This could not be more relevant after the fires in Australia
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16:15, puts shirt on backwards, lololol!!
i laughed also :D
If we all do something this will stop! If nobody buys products with palm oil, the market will disappear and the harvesting of it will disappear with it, this is caused by greed of companies, not necessity.
How huge corporate companies are beginning to rule the world ... And this is just the beginning !!
..the problem isn't really about growing palm oil, it's about no environmental laws in a land of the un-governable...
Green bio energy isn't it wonderful?
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth burn down the palm oil plantations
Thank you
This Video is @watchdogimage Production, why you not linked the original Video in your description box?
is this channel part of Watchdog Indonesia? have you permission from them?
Scandalous practices
This covid 19 curse of deforestation..and all d people around d world have to suffer...