Same when I saw vegeta for the first time I was ohh so that how he looks like but when he arrive to earth he’s color change so I was confused so I just thought that it had to do with the lighting of the other planet that they conquered.
@@justinmadrid8712 i mean this is literally one of the tiny instances where the colour coding is off, but it also has 'everything' with the odd lighting, so its more accurate then most think. yes the armor hes wearing has green instead of orange tinting in this one scene, but giving everything an orange sepia tint does not translate well for selling to a kids show. plus the points on the video totally forget that splash pages of manga exist for front title pages and that vegeta existed in colour long before dbz actually aired as an anime due to this. plus you can clearly tell from the scene that it was meant to be alternatively coloured due to the atmospheric light.
@@juub5171 while youre probably correct and i have no evidence or proof or dont know anything i was just like itd be funny if the skin color was actually the same its just he looked tanner in the old ones because he had a yellow gi and so his skin looks darker in comparison to him with a orange gi
@@Solanin0803 yes. But I want to see more than just that as a black and white anime. I personally wouldn't mind if kagurabachi was adapted in a similar style.
Or the false super saiyan mode against slug when they originally had goku go super saiyan but then changed it so he was base but still had the super saiyan aura/hair style but had gokus hair black
I believe it was the former, because it took a long time before we learned what Android 18 and 17's real names were. I still remember learning about it from Dragon Ball Z abridged, and I was so shocked that I had to pause the video and actually Google it to see if they were messing with me.
Those were the days when I used to watch anime with proper headphones. When I was watching DBZ for the first time, the entire beginning arc of it made me scared. Vegeta's entrance, Raditz getting killed, they seemed sooooo desperate to defeat Vegeta. I really miss those feelings while watching animes now
Ye in hxh 2011 they changed some colours around, im most grateful for them changing Pokkle’s hair from grey to red and changing Shalnark from having a red outfit and brown hair to his current outfit with blonde hair🤞(other examples tho include: Bisky, Hisoka and Bienvolt)
Its probably the we forgot to ask thing cuz manga still had cover art and even in some special cases had a page or two in color at the begining of a chapter(its why sometimes the shading looks so different for those spesific pages)
It's always cool to see how the characters look in color. I remember back when I was reading Fairy Tail I always assumed Happy was pink. No real reason, he just looked like a pink cat to me. I had a friend who thought thought he was orange. We would argue it back and forth until the anime came out and realized he was blue. It still looks weird to me.
Thats why a colored cover in special copy of the magazine is a reward for the mangaka
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The last for sure. Db character had cannon collors that the anim kinda trowed away. Best example is bulma, her cannon hair is purple like young trunks. She, young trunks and future trunks canonically have the same hair collor.
It’s because toriyama would tell them what he intended to make the color scheme but would change it later on and not notify them, which lead to green vegeta and a super sayain form with black hair from the lord slug movie.
in the DBZ movie Lord Slug, the form that Goku uses commonly referred to as "False Super Saiyan", Super Saiyan with black hair, was actually what Super Saiyan was originally meant to look like based on Toriyama's notes, as it was animated before Goku used the form against Frieza in the manga. They had not yet decided on golden hair, which was a change made for the manga to save time on inking Goku's hair.
The best use of black and white as a limitation in manga has to be Land Of The Lustrous. All the characters are bright and colorful so the mangaka leans instrad into how she can use the medium and not be limited by it. You know phos is mint green and cinnabar is a vibrant red but all you see is black white and grey. Its so good that when a trailer was made in the same style it looked odd to see them in color.
Thought you were gonna talk about the jojo's colours since it had ps2 games and fugo had completely diff colours. and araki makin the vol's colouring different each time made it harder
As a kid I only saw the different color scheme on that planet with the bug people and so I always just imagined that the atmosphere or sun were different on that planet and that's why they were different colors.
He first appeared sitting in front of a fire. They gave him a red color scheme to show the glow of the fire light. They didn't know the actual colors. The end.
The cover is always in color and the original mangaka has to give permission as well as input.. animators always know all the colors -- they only adjust colors if/when they want to, not because they don't know. :P PS: IF/when there's ever some rare comic that publishes its cover in black and white AND it's good enough to be adapted to animation -- the animation itself will probably be black and white too. ;) PPS: Any manga that isn't popular enough to have its own color cover, usually isn't popular enough to be adapted to anime.
Another thing that bugs me: Iida from My Hero Academia. In the anime, his eyes are blue, which is fine, a few characters have matching hair and eye colours, but in art and promotional stuff done by Horikoshi [the creator] his eyes are red, which is a common eye colour in the series, and neither have been changed, so WHICH IS IT?!
Actually, a black and white anime could be kinda cool. Or maybe if they do something like having some scenes be in black and white and others be in full color...
I find it fun when adaptaions play with the fact thT characters dont have colours Famously jojo does not have canon colourschemes for any of its characters which is part of the reason the anime got away with messing around with colour and visuals so much.
Every mangas have full color cover. And most popular mangas have art books that display the details of the characters in colors. Don’t the animators reference those?
As with every mangaka at work, Toriyama was busy on the manga every day, he couldn't stand behind every animator's back and watch them work. The production staff can have all the freedom they want on how to make anime series, since the manga artists have no power to decide on the production of the anime, especially Toriyama who at the time had not yet bought the rights to Dragon Ball
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Worrying about the color later is something Toriyama would do.
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@@cedgehoganime didn't he accidentally draw 18 with purple hair not too long ago?
@@TheGreenThunder1607 oh yeah I think it was like Battle of the Gods and early Super 18 had purple hair 💀
@@cedgehoganime oh yeah that was like.. super recent then.. until you realize BoG was already 10 years ago
As a kid I saw vegata's introduction after the saiyan saga and assumed that the planet just had weird lighting
Same when I saw vegeta for the first time I was ohh so that how he looks like but when he arrive to earth he’s color change so I was confused so I just thought that it had to do with the lighting of the other planet that they conquered.
@@user-kc4pr4sd4t Ditto.
i mean it practically is? the toneage is almost perfect for an orangish light over the armor.
@@charlesmwolfI wonder how accurate the story is about the coloring.
@@justinmadrid8712 i mean this is literally one of the tiny instances where the colour coding is off, but it also has 'everything' with the odd lighting, so its more accurate then most think.
yes the armor hes wearing has green instead of orange tinting in this one scene, but giving everything an orange sepia tint does not translate well for selling to a kids show.
plus the points on the video totally forget that splash pages of manga exist for front title pages and that vegeta existed in colour long before dbz actually aired as an anime due to this.
plus you can clearly tell from the scene that it was meant to be alternatively coloured due to the atmospheric light.
Did anybody else ever notice that Goku was a lot Tanner on some of the covers and old official art.
...I Guess his skin can tan also
Goku has always been a very tan guy. His Gi also more yellow than orange. But the anime makes it orange.
@@juub5171 while youre probably correct and i have no evidence or proof or dont know anything i was just like itd be funny if the skin color was actually the same its just he looked tanner in the old ones because he had a yellow gi and so his skin looks darker in comparison to him with a orange gi
Naruto too at the start of the anime
@@korbyd236 look up Toriyama full color pages, you’ll see his color scheme
i always thought it was just the lighting & how the planets atmosphere affected the light
Same, I never questioned it until it was brought up.
Same, I thought he was on a red planet similar to mars
Same. I basically retconned Vegeta’s first appearance as a stylistic filter since a lot was told via flashbacks if I remember right.
Thats an interesting thought, but he looked like that in the space pod too,
They had a lot. Bulma and Trunks hair color is purple in all manga covers, but the anime change Bulma hair into Blue and Trunks into white
I might be crazy but i wouldn't mind seeing fully black and white anime. I feel like it could be a cool studio specific art style.
Isn't someone doing that with the "new" Uzumaki anime
@@Solanin0803 yes. But I want to see more than just that as a black and white anime. I personally wouldn't mind if kagurabachi was adapted in a similar style.
This would work with so many manga including 20th Century Boys
Crazy how this actually happened with Goku's hair in hell when his hair wasn't supposed to be yellow so pikkon wouldn't know he had supersaiyan
Or the false super saiyan mode against slug when they originally had goku go super saiyan but then changed it so he was base but still had the super saiyan aura/hair style but had gokus hair black
And that's why JoJo is so amazing.
There are no fixed color palettes for the characters and it makes looking at them so much more interesting.
They had to go for the worst color palette in the beginning💀
"Shiny Pokemon Vegeta doesn't exist, he can't hurt you."
Shiny Pokemon Vegeta:-
Isn't nobody gonna mention that Vegeta was also a redhead in that first appearance? It always cracks me up 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does anyone else really like the original vegeta colour scheme, ive always been a fan of it.
Rip iconic trunks hair
Honestly my favorite vegeta colors was when he had had the yellow and white and blue but he had brown tinted hair makes him seem younger
It looks like this was a common problem. Hunter X Hunter had similar issues with Hisoka.
Meanwhile Uzumaki:"I don't share the same weakness as you..."
In the manga his chakra is yellow and peoples chakra color varies while the anime all chakra is blue
At least it gave us my favorite vegeta alt color in fighterzw
i love this guy, probably one of the coolest anime content creators 🙌🏽
Moral of the story "deal with it later"
Is it a 1 in 9001 Shiny Vegeta
The odds of getting him is over 9000
I believe it was the former, because it took a long time before we learned what Android 18 and 17's real names were.
I still remember learning about it from Dragon Ball Z abridged, and I was so shocked that I had to pause the video and actually Google it to see if they were messing with me.
This is why most mangas nowadays have coloured covers in the front. Saves alot of headache. Lol.
Tbh I liked that color pallet for him
I believe covers and color spreads go a long way with that
Honestly this sort of thing in the Vegeta case I just chalk up to the scene lighting then didn't think about it again
I assumed it was just weird lighting on the planet they are on.
I live that orange green color scheme
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Another hilarious instance of this is Kaiba with green hair in the Toie anime
Those were the days when I used to watch anime with proper headphones.
When I was watching DBZ for the first time, the entire beginning arc of it made me scared. Vegeta's entrance, Raditz getting killed, they seemed sooooo desperate to defeat Vegeta.
I really miss those feelings while watching animes now
Luffy was thought to be orange and yellow like the sun. Who would have thought Oda imagined him to be white and purple.
Shiny pokemon is crazy and so valid omfg 😭
On Saint Seiya they had to add anime hair colors to the normal colors so it could make contrast with the colors in animation
I was shoked when i discovered that puck hair weren't green but blue
This was something i always questioned, like how do the animators know the colors and what the conversation would have been like.
I kinda like Vegeta's alternative (or rather original) color design
Jojo bizzare adventure, writer always asks to go wild 😂
Ye in hxh 2011 they changed some colours around, im most grateful for them changing Pokkle’s hair from grey to red and changing Shalnark from having a red outfit and brown hair to his current outfit with blonde hair🤞(other examples tho include: Bisky, Hisoka and Bienvolt)
Its probably the we forgot to ask thing cuz manga still had cover art and even in some special cases had a page or two in color at the begining of a chapter(its why sometimes the shading looks so different for those spesific pages)
It's always cool to see how the characters look in color. I remember back when I was reading Fairy Tail I always assumed Happy was pink. No real reason, he just looked like a pink cat to me. I had a friend who thought thought he was orange. We would argue it back and forth until the anime came out and realized he was blue. It still looks weird to me.
Surprisingly, I love that color scheme. In dragon ball fighterz they have it for Vegeta and it is my go to fit for him lol
I genuinely wonder how they make SSJ and SSB look different in black and white
Remember the bug planet Vegeta?
Toriyama: Shiny Segeta's not real, he can't hurt you
Shiny Vegeta: *BLOWS UP THE BUG-🥷 HOMEWORLD*
I always assumed vegeta looked like that due to the lighting of the planet he was on.
That color is actually a skin for vegeta in Fighter Z
> manga are only printed in b/w
> Shows 3 color pages
Thats why a colored cover in special copy of the magazine is a reward for the mangaka
The last for sure. Db character had cannon collors that the anim kinda trowed away. Best example is bulma, her cannon hair is purple like young trunks. She, young trunks and future trunks canonically have the same hair collor.
I thought it was just the planet atmosphere
As a kid I thought that they just looked weird because of the planet they were on had weird light because of the atmosphere or something like that
I believed toriyama had to call the studio to tell them yo use normal humsn colors
Rip toriyama
We got a shiny variant of vegeta before gta6
and then there's araki making it intentional
In the first Hunter x Hunter pilot, Kurapika had reddish brown hair.
It’s because toriyama would tell them what he intended to make the color scheme but would change it later on and not notify them, which lead to green vegeta and a super sayain form with black hair from the lord slug movie.
Yeah... The rainbow colored Pain eye.
in the DBZ movie Lord Slug, the form that Goku uses commonly referred to as "False Super Saiyan", Super Saiyan with black hair, was actually what Super Saiyan was originally meant to look like based on Toriyama's notes, as it was animated before Goku used the form against Frieza in the manga. They had not yet decided on golden hair, which was a change made for the manga to save time on inking Goku's hair.
> traditionally black and white
> uses 3 pages that were originally in color 😂
The best use of black and white as a limitation in manga has to be Land Of The Lustrous. All the characters are bright and colorful so the mangaka leans instrad into how she can use the medium and not be limited by it. You know phos is mint green and cinnabar is a vibrant red but all you see is black white and grey.
Its so good that when a trailer was made in the same style it looked odd to see them in color.
Bulma's hair is pink in the manga. Imagine if they just kept using brown hair Vegeta?
That's how oda was inspired by toriyama to not give the animators robin's color scheme and we got deprived of tan robin
Did you forget that character sheets exist
In my opinion, I would like for some anime mongas to have color it gives more variety and beauty to the art.
Thought you were gonna talk about the jojo's colours since it had ps2 games and fugo had completely diff colours. and araki makin the vol's colouring different each time made it harder
my headcanon is it was just some weird atmosphere that made him more red. like mars or smth
Kazekage's attire being blue in the original naruto (mizukage's colors) but they later fixed it in Shippuden and back to dark green
i always thought that vegeta's early colours was just wierd lighting
I refuse to believe Slan has blue hair!
As a kid I only saw the different color scheme on that planet with the bug people and so I always just imagined that the atmosphere or sun were different on that planet and that's why they were different colors.
I kinda liked the older design as a kid lol it didn't stand out next to shows like batman the animated series or teen titans and stuff
Mom: We got vegata at home
I didn't even know that was meant to be Vegeta when I first saw him
Nah I think they usually use the Shueisha color scan colors
I remember that. I am old af. 😂😂😂
He first appeared sitting in front of a fire. They gave him a red color scheme to show the glow of the fire light. They didn't know the actual colors. The end.
Idk why but I feel like somehow, it was both 😂
its more likely the second if they werent told explict colors
Especially true with JoJo as Araki has never drawn official colors for most of the characters
The cover is always in color and the original mangaka has to give permission as well as input.. animators always know all the colors -- they only adjust colors if/when they want to, not because they don't know. :P
PS: IF/when there's ever some rare comic that publishes its cover in black and white AND it's good enough to be adapted to animation -- the animation itself will probably be black and white too. ;)
PPS: Any manga that isn't popular enough to have its own color cover, usually isn't popular enough to be adapted to anime.
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And then there's jojo with no official color scheme
Another thing that bugs me: Iida from My Hero Academia. In the anime, his eyes are blue, which is fine, a few characters have matching hair and eye colours, but in art and promotional stuff done by Horikoshi [the creator] his eyes are red, which is a common eye colour in the series, and neither have been changed, so WHICH IS IT?!
Actually, a black and white anime could be kinda cool. Or maybe if they do something like having some scenes be in black and white and others be in full color...
You can see that the skies have different colors. The Atmosphere seems to block every other color than red-pink. Even his hair looks kinda Reed.
Like Marco from One Piece 💀 he initially had a black hair in anime.
Isn’t that why people thought Nico Robin was black
He kind of looks like him too
I find it fun when adaptaions play with the fact thT characters dont have colours
Famously jojo does not have canon colourschemes for any of its characters which is part of the reason the anime got away with messing around with colour and visuals so much.
This is why Jojo is awesome because it has no set color scheme so it can literally be any color the studio wants
I’m feeling red today
They never asked and Toriyama sent them colored pictures.
Heres a fun fact. In bleach, komamura was originally grey, not that light brown he has in the anime
Could you make a video on manga that didnt originally print in black and white and why
I dunno I really liked the first appearance Vegeta color scheme 😅
i think the dark colors can be because of the rough environment vegeta was in before we meet him
idk am just coping hard
It lead to Jiraya having a pimple on the nose instead of piercing
vegetas color i his 1st appearance was due to the color of the planets atmosphere and star.
Every mangas have full color cover. And most popular mangas have art books that display the details of the characters in colors. Don’t the animators reference those?
As with every mangaka at work, Toriyama was busy on the manga every day, he couldn't stand behind every animator's back and watch them work.
The production staff can have all the freedom they want on how to make anime series, since the manga artists have no power to decide on the production of the anime, especially Toriyama who at the time had not yet bought the rights to Dragon Ball
Lowkey i like the old color scheme tho. Like it aint that bad tbh