How good is the Retro Fighters Defender controller? - TSG Review
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- By popular demand, we are back with the Retro Fighter Defender controller.
Some of our viewers wanted to know more about the controllers functionality, mainly the Analog Stick Dead Zones, and the Pressure Sensitive buttons.
Zero is going to pit the Defender against the Dualshock 2 and the Dualshock 3 to see how well the Defender fairs against both.
He's chosen 4 of his favorite games (2 for the PS2 and 2 for the PS3) to perform these tests.
Come see what he finds!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:49 - Defender dead zones vs Dualshock 2
5:10 - Defender buttons vs Dualshock 2
8:20 - Defender dead zones vs Dualshock
12:20 - Defender buttons vs Dualshock 3
14:51 - Conclusion
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Excellent video, the very first to test the precision of the analog sticks.
Thank you very much for this.
I will share it around and spread the word.👏✌️👍
No problem, we're glad you like it. We appreciate the help spreading the word and our video!
We hope you have an excellent day!!
A smaller range for pressure sensitive buttons isn’t necessarily a deal breaker imo. Range would be a bigger deal if they were analog triggers. There’s a reason that analog buttons didn’t return for the PS4 and PS5. Analog triggers just work better.
I remember it being uncomfortable always having to hold the X button down all the way in Gran Turismo 3 on the Dual shock 2. Seems like the retro fighter defender might hit maximum pressure with less effort. Definitely would be a welcome change for those endurance races.
Glad to see the functionality is supported though, as I do like to ease up on the gas pedal when covering in racing sims... And since it’s exclusion would actually break control schemes for games like Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 (weapon ADS with a light press, and fire with a heavy press), which would truly be a shame.
Also, it’s not the just the face buttons. The Dual Shock 2 and 3’s pressure sensitivity also applied to the shoulder buttons, and even the DPad. You can actually perform light and heavy steering in Gran Turismo without even using the analog stick. Is it that useful? 🤷🏻♂️ not really, but it’s neat I guess.
Thanks for making the video!
Yeah, I was playing GT4 yesterday and I forgot how hard you have to press down on the X button! It was really uncomfortable for me. I'm gonna try it with the Defender once that arrives.
Awesome, we hope it works out for ya!
i been using the LOGITECH wireless controllers for years for my ps1 ps2 even for my ps3 they are a very good controllers
Really? Which model of the controller? We should look into it 🤔
@@TooStupidGamerz for ps3 G-X5C11A and for ps2 G-X2D11 both very good controllers very comnfortable
Very dissapointed for what I paid
The analouge deadzones are really noticable imo and really cheapen the feel of the controller in general. Dpad doesn't stick out nearly enough and when testing the sixaxis it was nowhere near as responsive as the DS3.
If meeting DS2&3 production quality meant having to pay another 20-30 dollars I would have parted with it happily. But this just feels like a half assed 3rd party controller with a couple of bells and whistles
We see what you mean. Perhaps they could've put a little more into making this feel a tad more premium. If anything, at the very least this gives gamers another option with its basic functionality.
I had to fix the dpad as it was terrible
What happened to it, if you don't mind us asking?
@@TooStupidGamerz it was registering unintended diagonal inputs far to frequently, it was worst in ps1 games that used the dpad for movement games like tomb raider or doom played terrible,
I still can’t do fire balls in street fighter with it,
That's horrible. Sorry to hear that. Thankfully our version hasn't had that issue come up. Perhaps try contacting the company and tell them about your issue. You're likely still under warranty.
I mean... I can't buy a brand new DS2 or DS3 (since they don't make them anymore) and I don't really want to buy a used one or some random knock off so... could you recommend something better than the Defender?
When it comes to controllers that require no extra setting up, sorry to say this but the Defender is pretty good. However, if you're ok with using a dual shock 4 or even an Xbox controller, look into the Brook switcher pro. It's an adapter for modern controllers to make them work on PS2. They likely have an adapter for PS3 as well.
For people asking about Logitech Cordless PS2 controller here in this video he compares it to the Defender: ruclips.net/video/FapnIM5HKk8/видео.html
Can't wait for my defender to arrive, the only thing I worry about is the strength of vibrations as I didn't find any reviews on that and some people said DS3 had better vibrations.
Will it boot dual shock 2 only games like outrun Coast to coast and path of neo? Other 3rd party controllers get stuck at a warning screen
Not sure about that. Since we don't own either games, we won't be able to test that. Sorry 😅
@@TooStupidGamerz have you got a ps1 or 3td party controller to try it with gran turismo a spec? That's possibly a game that requires a dual shock 2 but I'm not 100% sure
Well the Retro Fighters Defender IS a 3rd Party controller, and it worked with Gran Turismo 3. Does that answer you question?
Not totally sure what your asking for here...
@@TooStupidGamerz I'm saying that if you tried gt3 with another 3rd party controller or ds 1 and it wouldn't work this would confirm that the retro fighter is indeed the first 3rd party controller to actually fully support the ps2 games library
From the research I've done today, it seems as though that Dualshock 1s (and other PS1 OEM and 3rd party controllers for the PS1) do not work with PS2 games (or a good chunk of them anyway) which would explain the error screens you get. When it comes to the Retro Fighters Defender, and my old Madcats wireless controllers, they all worked with whatever I threw at them throughout the years. I believe that's the answer you might be looking for.
I remember using a Logitech controller for PS2.
I remember seeing the Logitech controller and wanting it badly. Was it good?
@@TooStupidGamerz
It was good though used batteries. First wireless controller I ever bought as I always used wired PS2 Dualshock 2 controller. I believe it broke and I went back to first party controllers.
Makes sense. I had 2 Madcatz wireless controllers. They used AAA batteries. They were dropped a few times, but they still work surprisingly.
@@TooStupidGamerz
I think I dropped it once or twice though hated buying batteries.
Same. I switched to rechargeable batteries for my Madcatz controllers.
The Defender has (as far as I can tell) 2 stage pressure sensitive buttons, the DS2 (i think) has 3 stages.
I think it depends on the game really and how sensitive the sensors are in the controllers.
But yeah, those are good numbers to go by!
@@TooStupidGamerz I was wrong about the DS2. the buttons are analog, not in stages at all. should be a gradual increase as you push. You are correct, Each game is programed differently for this. I still don't know for sure about the Defender, but, every game i try, it seams to have two stages, light and heavy.
No problems for the most part
But one WEIRD thing I've experienced is on the Tomb Raider trilogy ps3.
Up left on the left stick is totally dead.
That's odd. Perhaps try contacting Retro Fighters about that. Could be something that can be fixed using an update. Talking about updates, have you updated your USB dongle for the Defender?
@@TooStupidGamerz No and its only that game.
I've got other controllers.
@@ryanwilliams3369 I see. Well, I do recommend updating the dongle at some point. It could help with any future issues.
@@TooStupidGamerz not bad though otherwise it works great on 12&3+switch
It just that one game so far...
Just weird...
Do you have that combo:
Tomb Raider trilogy
Ps3
And defender
Have you updated yours?
sucks the retro fighter defender has more deadzone .. still not recommended
Indeed it does suck. However like Zero said in the video, the dead zones won't hamper the experience of most players who aren't as sensitive to the bigger dead zones.
@@TooStupidGamerz im sensetive btw can you test deadzone of logitech wireless for ps2?
@@Cmon3play We would if we could. We don't have a Logitech controller for the PS2 at the moment. Sorry.
@@Cmon3play I saw video someone testing the Cordless Logitech and said that analog sticks are trash compared to RF Defender.
Does Nanners
Have anything to do with Nyanners?
Not at all lol
The sad fate of most 3rd party controllers, awful deadzones