Which comes first in pen and wash? Ink or watercolour??
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Pen and wash (or line and wash if you prefer), is a wonderful way of combining the strength of ink with beautiful soft washes of transparent watercolour. At its best, the sum of the parts adds up to so much more than the individual elements. But the most common question for those starting out is, which comes first - ink or watercolour? Should I draw first and then add colour or paint first and then add lines?
I share with you a simple exercise involving a quick raid on the veg rack or fruit bowl, which helps you come to the conclusion that either works. Indeed, as long as your layers are dry you can switch between line and wash.
This exercise is a short version of one of the lessons from my comprehensive online course which can be found at www.lizchadertonstudio.co.uk. In that course, I introduce you to a wide range of inks and pens, watercolour techniques and then how to combine them in an infinite number of ways. It covers portraits, animal studies, urban sketching and more.
I reckon we can learn so much from this exercise and it should give you the confidence to develop a way of working which suits you. I have put a photo of the two peppers on the community tab of my channel, so I hope that might help you if you have a go.
If you enjoy it, please like and subscribe. I upload a short tip, trick or technique each week, usually on a Sunday afternoon. So if there is a particular topic you want me to look at, please leave a comment and I will try to help.
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The way you ad lib the line work with your imagination into the line work rather than trying to be accurate is very inspiring! I love the left-hand image. It's very poetic.
Thank you so much 😀
Both methods together became a gorgeous composition! So soothing to watch and listen to! 💜 Thank you for the therapy!
my pleasure 😊
Great ideas. I started really liking my paintings once I added the ink drawings
Good to hear!
I absolutely love your drawing technique and you make it. Look so easy I’ll even try it, give it a go… straight away as Brit’s would say and I say that with admiration. You’re voice is soothing to me. Thank you for showing us this wonderful video. Sincerely your friend from New York 💟☮️
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it
So glad I found you, especially your tutorials on loose sketching! Your commentary is easy to understand and the filming of your videos is clear and directly overhead which makes it much easier to follow! Thank you!
that’s lovely feedback, thank you
Thank-you! At first I was liking the first pepper better, but as time went on, I love them BOTH!
I like both ways of working and choose the one I think fits the subject and my mood. People get hung up on rules and I just wanted to say ‘do your own thing’ 😊
Thank you!!
I will always remember to eat the evidence. And I think I know how I should draw and paint now. At least how I should start!
Excellent!
Thank you for this inspiration. I shall try it out. I struggle very much with loose paintings, animals and landscapes being my favorites. I don't understand myself WHY I find it so difficult to loosen up. Nobody sees my paintings and it would actually not matter ... 🤔 Greetings from Berlin Germany 👍🤗🇩🇪 P.S. The flying owl behind you on the wall is beautiful!!!
Thank you! I do love owls - I did this one for an article in a magazine. Hope you enjoy the exercise.
Lovely lesson! Thank you for your instruction & inspiration.
You are so welcome!
What a lovely lesson! Line and wash sketching is my favorite sketching method. I usually start with the line work because I have a bit of difficulty starting with the wash, but you gave me a brilliant idea with the vegetable printing. Thanks for this lesson.😊
I like to swap my order around to keep things fresh
Thanks for making this video. I’ve just started drawing with pen because I overthink so much with pencil (or maybe I don’t think enough as you put it since I can erase pencil). I’ve always wanted to work with watercolor, too, and started with watercolor pencils. Can’t wait to try the two together!
Glad it was helpful! You will love the combination. I like to scribble dense patches of watercolour pencil on a spare scrap of paper and then use a brush to pick up the colour. This gives you the full wash effect without any residual pencil lines.
This was amazing to watch you work on the pepper. Love it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the casual way you paint here. I will have a go. Thank you for sharing.
Have fun! Just raid the fruit or veg basket!
I like both techniques equally. TYSM for this video. ❤
You are so welcome!
New to your channel
And came for the pen and watercolor wash…which I’m just trying to learn. Such a great lesson. Can’t wait to watch more🙃
Thanks so much 😊
I was skeptical but very cool! Thanks. Looking forward to trying this. ❤
Hope you like it!
Excellent again. I always learn from your gentle teaching style
Glad to hear that! Thank you
I’m voting for lines first.
It’s fascinating our own preferences
Great video again, thanks Liz. Loved both outcomes. Something I am going to try 🙂
Have fun! It's a great way of working
I'm soooo impressed, Liz! By your art and by the fact that, as busy as you are, you painted one every single day!! I don't think I can pick a favorite...I just loved listening to you explain each one - the methods and how YOU liked or didn't like them...and I loved how you put your "own spin" on some of them. I envy that - I pretty much follow a tutorial to the letter still! (After I watched this, ads for sktchy started showing up in my FB feed - looks like they have a whole new bunch of 30 faces to paint! Something to aspire to after I learn from YOUR book and videos!)
😁 I love your messages. You are so positive!
🥰😍@@LizChadertonArt
Only just discovered your videos…..interesting content and nice calm voice
Thanks and welcome. horrible to listen to your own voice though!
Thank you Liz, I love line and wash and will definitely give this a go.
Have fun!
Love the phrase “go for a walk.”
I probably stole it from someone else, but it’s a good description!
I also tried blth ways, and really prefer to paint forst, and do line work over my watercolor. I don't know why, but I like the result much better when I do.
It’s great that you’ve tried both ways and developed your own style
Thank you. That doesn't look too scary so I'll give it a go now
not scary at all! and you learn lots from keeping things simple
Interesting and excellent explanations 😊
Glad you liked it
Terrific exercise! ty! ♥♥♥
You're so welcome!
My first time watching....loved this.
oh good! come back soon
you sorta blew my mind , in a good way
so glad it was in a good way!
Thank you for making it make more sense! So, for a more detailed or "perfect" one like the flower at the beginning, I would use the line first so as to paint inside.(or not-LOL)
if you want something detailed and ‘perfect’ then line first will probably be the way for you
I love your content!
thank you so much!
I do not have drawing skills yet, so it helps me to watch you draw.
There’s a brilliant book called ‘Drawing on the right side of the brain’. If you follow that your skills will zoom forward.
learn a lot from your video,thanks so much
Glad to hear that! If there is ever a topic you want addressing, let me know!
Love this video. I will try both. Thank you
I like to do both and it stops me getting in a rut
This really encouraged me to get those pens dusted off thankyou
ooh good. Line and wash is lovely.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I love that owl!
Thank you!
Jeg er utrolig glad for at følge alle dine videoer hvor har jeg lært meget af dig. Kærligst Elisabeth 🥰
Mange tak. Det er så godt at høre!
Interesting thankyou I'm going to try both
Have fun! you learn so much from playing with a simple object
Thank you for the inspiration, and the squigglyness and inaccurate lines! :-P Right now I'm stuck, and this is what I need!
I can do accurate (honest), I just prefer squiggly. Have fun!!
Hi Liz! I used this in conjunction with the video in the Line and Wash course and your book, because I had an orange pepper I chose to use. I was surprised to see I had already commented on this a few weeks ago, but when I read it, I realized the comment belonged to another video (the Watercolor Portrait Techniques - Which is Your Favorite? one). You must have wondered WHY I said what I did about this video as it didn't make much sense in relation to it! You responded kindly - you must have figured it out or you were being kind! I must have watched them back to back and then went back later to comment on the Portrait one, but still had this one pulled up on RUclips.
Now I've officially commented on both videos!😃
I worked it out!!!
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Loved it Liz!
oh good! this is just such a nice way of working out whether you like ink or watercolour first.
Yes I do a lot of Line n wash where I use the pen first, now will try paint first.
@@sonallele9109 it’s fun to change it around. It stops me getting in a rut.
Ha! I don't know why, but that one pepper half reminds me of Edvard Munch's The Scream. Happy little pepper sketches, though! :)
hmmmm? not sure I can see that.,
Really enjoyed your video, you made it look so simple and effortless! Loved the end result!
I love this and I feel so inspired! QUESTION: I'd like to carry a sketchbook and do pen + ink spontaneously when I see something that inspires me. If I must finish it at home, would you recommend ink first and finish at home with paint or sketch with paint and finish with ink at home?
That's a great question. My inclination is to use what’s most convenient for you to carry with you and what would capture the most information quickest. For me, that would be pen. If you look at my film on the Stabillo 88 pen, it might give you the best of both worlds?
@@LizChadertonArt Great advice - quite practical too! I'll check out your Stabillo 88 pen video now. Thank you!
Hi Thanks Liz! Great tutorial focusing throughout on imagination and still
Learning some tricks!
Question- what kind of ink pens should I buy as it seems that the ink you have use does not wash away with water neither does it have any problem drawing over the water color. Both of those are my problems - likely because I’m using cheap paints and inks?
are you in the UK or US? you should look for ones with pigment ink. Micron, Unipin are examples. In the UK, I find the Hobbycraft own brand are fine. It might be your paper rather than pens. Some papers don’t seen to hold onto the ink as well, so even a waterproof pen moves a little. Always worth checking your combination.
Lovely voice it was so soothing😂
ha ha, did you nod off??
@@LizChadertonArt no not at all 😂 very engaging
@@ffioncampbell-davies5513 😊
Your manner is so gentle and easygoing that this is a really instructive and enjoyable tutorial. Thank you for giving your time freely What kind of paper do you do this on, what gsm? Will watercolour paper be alright, because I read fineliners can be damaged by being used on paper that's too thick? The watercolour wash isn't the tricky bit I don't think, it's letting go of the need for perfectionism enough to be able to produce a line drawing like yours - that is really, really hard
Thank you so much! tThis was 300gsm cold pressed watercolour paper. The issue can be the texture of the paper rather than the thickness. Traditionally hot press paper is used for pen and wash. it is smooth so you get fine lines. Rough paper tends to interrupt fine lines. I like cold press. it has some texture but it’s not over powering. And I think the texture helps keep the line work loose.
@@LizChadertonArt Okay so watercolour paper is fine for pen then, that's really useful advice, thank you for replying!
@@katieh9986 definitely! If you use drawing paper it will cockle with all but the lightest washes.
What are your favorite pens for line and wash? I'm lost looking at them all!
please don’t hate me, but I use and love many different pens. It just depends on what effect you are trying to achieve. I have a detailed line and wash course which goes through lots of options and styles: www.lizchadertonstudio.co.uk/line-and-wash-painting
I could never hate you!
@@lamp0192 oh good!
You make learning fun and not scary. I'm putting your class on my Christmas Wish list.
@@lamp0192 perfect! just what I am aiming for
"No one will know if its exact,, you can eat the evidence.: Oh that is hilarious 😅😂
I forgot I’d said that! but it is true…..
Hi! 😊 Sorry if by any chance you talked about this already, at some point, if you did, I didn't catch it! But, quick question if you could help me... Does alcohol (india) ink stain porcelain/ceramic palette? Or does it wipes away like watercolors? I'm about to buy my first inks and don't want to ruin my watercolor palette!
Alcohol ink is different from Indian ink. Indian ink has shellac in it and can be diluted with water. I never use alcohol ink, so I can’t advise, but Indian ink won’t stain ceramic or glass, but will plastic. Even when it dries it will flake off ceramic with a bit of water…..
@@LizChadertonArt thank you!
What is the brand of pen you are using in this video?
it is a fineliner pen with pigment ink, so it’s waterproof and fade resistant. These weren’t a brand, just came from Hobbycraft. you can try Unipin, Micron and things like that.
@@LizChadertonArt Thank you so much! BTW, you turned those "simple" peppers into such an adorable piece of art. :)
@@msgriz56 It's amazing what you can find in the veggie box!!
Eat the evidence, Lol 🤣🤣🤣
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