fantastic. I love that you spent time being creative on your own. Just trying things and accepting that some things worked and others didn't. very cool. thanks
A few weeks ago I spent several weekends perfecting my shaker knob turning skill making pulls for a 5 drawer dresser. What a pain to get each one the same. This is a much better system for repeatability. Nice job.
I can't believe you failed to take advantage of the opportunity to say "Bubinga!" when you took "something really hard' to put the 1/4" hole and 3/8" hole in! I've been missing you giggling over how fun it is to say "Bubinga!" Another great video, Jay! Thanks for filling us in on your experiences!
We often forget that finding out what doesn't work is part of the journey to finding what does work. It's part of the process. Seeing the blank dowels with the rough square made me think off tops or dreidels. Could be a fun project for kids.
Your round part holder is a home made collet block. They're a tried and true part of precision metal working, so refining it is likely an excellent approach.
@@Ziflinz Ah, not that much patience. I think these would be pretty quick on a lathe - they might seem more hand made though. The nice thing is the lathe could be very small.
Use a drill press and different annular cutters - one for the tenon and one for the handle. Make a fixture to ensure concentricity. Use stops on the drill press to set depths. Mount the piece in the chuck and use a saw to cut the shoulder.
Couldn’t you mark your work piece while clamped in the walnut holder, then rotate it 180 after your initial pass and make another pass. That would probably give you the same shadow line around the entire pull. Just a thought. Cool set up. Bits and Bits rocks. That’s the only place I shop for router and CNC bits!
Very interesting application for the tool. I love the ending! As a woodworking newbie, I'm curious if you'd consider putting the pull blank in the router to use it as a sorta headstock like a lathe and attempt to face/decorate the pull blank spinning at whatever ridiculous speed the router spins while sitting static in the pantorouter setup.
Hey there Jay how are you doing today. Just wanted to stop and tell you I loved your video on the multi router. I have the same one I haven't used it for making drawer pulls yet but what a great idea. On a upcoming video I have coming out in the next couple of weeks. I would like to give you a shout out if you don't mind. I truly appreciate the lovely comments you put on my shop video. I meant to leave you this message a lot sooner. But I've been really busy lately. Please let me know if that would be okay with you and thank you. From Doug
You noted on your small dovetail knobs the edge was not the same all the way around. I think this may be the method you clamped the dowel end. After inserting it into the slotted end you placed the table clamp only on the top of your piece, therefore with the bottom of the piece being hard against the table. When you tightened the clamp only the top of your wood was being compressed throwing your dowel off centre. I think you would have to let your piece come forward slightly from the table and equally clamp both sides of the slotted wood ie top and bottom.
I think there's a chance that your offset comes from the walnut "collet" that you made. Maybe using a harder wood for the collet and the pull would eliminate it as walnut undergoes a bit of compression. This is a great idea though and a nice way to get more use out of a tool that you already have. Personally I think I'll stick to the lathe.
I also think it may be the collet...the hole was in the center of the hold block, then you collapsed and compressed that hole lower...about the same amount that it is shifted. To test if that is the case, try putting a shim of the same deflection thickness under the block you are clamping the dowel inside. If the error goes away, that was the fix and the issue, that is what I would try at least. Or as you said in the video, just orientate it to a known area and go with it.
I really like your drawer pulls in your shop (red wings) but don’t see the video you made for those. It’s on your mitre station video but didn’t elaborate on the how to. Did you make a separate video?
They were made many years ago with the old Shapeoko 2 cnc machine. It was painfully slow. It took 6 hours to cut all of them. Chamfered the back edge all the way around. Just an outline of the team logo.
seems to me the offset of the dovetail knob is caused by the holder, you've locked down everything else, and no matter how precise the dowel hole is drilled clamping will deflect the blank, and I can't think of any way to avoid that, good luck. or make it a feature
Jay, do you think you would be able to produce a variety of shaker knobs using this method, or do you think those profiles are too complex? Example: www.horton-brasses.com/images/furniture-hardware/shakerknobs.jpg
You might consider using a collet holder to improve the accuracy/consistency of your clamping. Here is one example. www.mscdirect.com/product/details/09670159
Jay : Did your wife take away your video games or are you really this bored ? This is a joke ... Love your videos ( your all I have my video game was taken away )😎
clever with the holder to route both sides of the knob.
Very clever use of a tool that has many options many of us never thought of till your video came out.
A very satisfying video, I loved seeing all the drawer pulls laid out on the table 👍
fantastic. I love that you spent time being creative on your own. Just trying things and accepting that some things worked and others didn't. very cool. thanks
A few weeks ago I spent several weekends perfecting my shaker knob turning skill making pulls for a 5 drawer dresser. What a pain to get each one the same. This is a much better system for repeatability. Nice job.
Wow! Great drawer pulls and cool router table/holder or whatever it's called.
Light pulls are a good 10 minute project for the lathe. 💡
Although I don't believe I would ever build or buy a Pantorouter, I did find this interesting, well done
Happy Father’s Day Jay!!
Happy Father’s Day to you and I hope it’s a great one
I can't believe you failed to take advantage of the opportunity to say "Bubinga!" when you took "something really hard' to put the 1/4" hole and 3/8" hole in! I've been missing you giggling over how fun it is to say "Bubinga!" Another great video, Jay! Thanks for filling us in on your experiences!
Nice. Really wasn't expecting the panta router when I saw the thumb nail. I was thinking cnc dowels a la Frank Howarth.
We often forget that finding out what doesn't work is part of the journey to finding what does work. It's part of the process.
Seeing the blank dowels with the rough square made me think off tops or dreidels. Could be a fun project for kids.
Your round part holder is a home made collet block. They're a tried and true part of precision metal working, so refining it is likely an excellent approach.
Love your Panorouter but don’t have one and no room for one. What would be the process for the rest of us?
A lathe and a lot of patience :).
@@Ziflinz Ah, not that much patience. I think these would be pretty quick on a lathe - they might seem more hand made though. The nice thing is the lathe could be very small.
Use a drill press and different annular cutters - one for the tenon and one for the handle. Make a fixture to ensure concentricity. Use stops on the drill press to set depths. Mount the piece in the chuck and use a saw to cut the shoulder.
Couldn’t you mark your work piece while clamped in the walnut holder, then rotate it 180 after your initial pass and make another pass. That would probably give you the same shadow line around the entire pull. Just a thought. Cool set up.
Bits and Bits rocks. That’s the only place I shop for router and CNC bits!
You could fit them in a Jacob's chuck on your lathe or drill press and use a storyboard to repeatedly mark groves in or burn with wire.
Very interesting application for the tool. I love the ending! As a woodworking newbie, I'm curious if you'd consider putting the pull blank in the router to use it as a sorta headstock like a lathe and attempt to face/decorate the pull blank spinning at whatever ridiculous speed the router spins while sitting static in the pantorouter setup.
Hey Jay enjoyed the video. One thought the small drawer pull would also make a great high class golf tee!!
Cool idea. Nice follow-up discussion.
Hey there Jay how are you doing today. Just wanted to stop and tell you I loved your video on the multi router. I have the same one I haven't used it for making drawer pulls yet but what a great idea. On a upcoming video I have coming out in the next couple of weeks. I would like to give you a shout out if you don't mind. I truly appreciate the lovely comments you put on my shop video. I meant to leave you this message a lot sooner. But I've been really busy lately. Please let me know if that would be okay with you and thank you. From Doug
You noted on your small dovetail knobs the edge was not the same all the way around. I think this may be the method you clamped the dowel end. After inserting it into the slotted end you placed the table clamp only on the top of your piece, therefore with the bottom of the piece being hard against the table. When you tightened the clamp only the top of your wood was being compressed throwing your dowel off centre. I think you would have to let your piece come forward slightly from the table and equally clamp both sides of the slotted wood ie top and bottom.
Happy Father's Day, Jay
I think there's a chance that your offset comes from the walnut "collet" that you made. Maybe using a harder wood for the collet and the pull would eliminate it as walnut undergoes a bit of compression.
This is a great idea though and a nice way to get more use out of a tool that you already have. Personally I think I'll stick to the lathe.
I also think it may be the collet...the hole was in the center of the hold block, then you collapsed and compressed that hole lower...about the same amount that it is shifted. To test if that is the case, try putting a shim of the same deflection thickness under the block you are clamping the dowel inside. If the error goes away, that was the fix and the issue, that is what I would try at least. Or as you said in the video, just orientate it to a known area and go with it.
Nice video Jay! Thanks for sharing it with us!💖👍👌😎JP
I really like your drawer pulls in your shop (red wings) but don’t see the video you made for those. It’s on your mitre station video but didn’t elaborate on the how to. Did you make a separate video?
They were made many years ago with the old Shapeoko 2 cnc machine. It was painfully slow. It took 6 hours to cut all of them. Chamfered the back edge all the way around. Just an outline of the team logo.
@@JayBates Thanks for replying I thought maybe you used a Router with template.
Jay,what about poly material to act as holding block?
Cool pulls Jay! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
So the only thing I need to make a $3 drawer pull is a $2000 pantorouter?
Yes. A $15,000 vehicle is also required to get groceries. No walking or planting your own garden. No exceptions.
I bet you use your 25K car instead of paying $3 for bus fare. Personally, I would use any tool that I have.
@@JayBates Jinx!
You could always turn them into custom golf tees...
Nice necktie, very classy!
6:10 Is that your new sawdust dance?
Your holder use a steel smooth pin to keep lined up then the clamp cannot push it out of linement.
seems to me the offset of the dovetail knob is caused by the holder, you've locked down everything else, and no matter how precise the dowel hole is drilled clamping will deflect the blank, and I can't think of any way to avoid that, good luck. or make it a feature
Was your initial stock square? Looks like there are rough edges that could be out of square.
This is awesome!
You could make golf tees.
Great Jay 💯👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Jay, do you think you would be able to produce a variety of shaker knobs using this method, or do you think those profiles are too complex?
Example: www.horton-brasses.com/images/furniture-hardware/shakerknobs.jpg
You created a dreidel maker
First!
Second!
Who's on first ?
Who is.
Third!
Fourth!
You might consider using a collet holder to improve the accuracy/consistency of your clamping. Here is one example. www.mscdirect.com/product/details/09670159
I am scrolling and quick commenting for the interaction the channels I sub to have the interaction needed to stay $$$$ eligible. HAGD
Good grief...way beyond my skills and tools...interesting tho...thanks.
Jay : Did your wife take away your video games or are you really this bored ? This is a joke ... Love your videos ( your all I have my video game was taken away )😎
Cool, but you're losing me, as I don''t have the resources to invest in this level of woodworking.
I'm sorry. Have a good day!
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