Palladium recovery from 1.4kg ceramic capacitors
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2020
- Smelting 1.4kg MLCCs using lead and silver as collector metals, followed by cupellation and silver - palladium separation.
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1.OZ of palladium is £2000.00 as of sept 21 , so the blob he made was worth £1000.00
what's that in U.S. dollars?
Wow, I've been saving these and the other types, big brown ones ect for some time now not knowing what to do with them. Amongst other components that were too good for regular scrap bins.
I bet I have arround 5kg of them
@@carlinshowalter1806 it's about $1250 dollars today I think
This was so amateurly done but love it just shows you you don't need the high tech luxuries to do something just logic and ingenuity. Well done man!
Thank you that was the idea
Сейчас для многих газ это и есть самая большая роскошь.
He just like burned a lot of stuff, including the paint of the damned capacitors and then almost choke him with the fumes. We all know it's possible to do this (the process) but please stop doing it like this.
@@ciprianpopa1503 ты это... хорош выпендриваться, пиши на русском. До поняли уже все, что ты на английском шпрехаешь умеешь. По-русски умеешь?👈😊
@@user-bj9vw4tj5w Nope I cannot write you back in Russian. I've translated your non-sense with google translate. What are you trying to say? Use a language that you can understand and also write with some level of understanding.
WOW!!! That Palladium sure doesn't want to melt very well. Still came close to being pure. Great video!
Thanks 👍
That’s because palladium melts at 2831 F.
The Crystals were as beautiful as the work put in thank u
Thanks for the kind words!
Back to back videos, appreciate the effort mate
Cheers pal!
You have a magnificent channel , the precious thing you have to offer is wisdom indeed , finer then even the gold you show us how to recover
Thanks for the kind words!
Just found your channel. Really appreciate all of the work that you have put in to your videos. Subscribed.👍❤️🇬🇧
Welcome aboard!
I dropped some questions, however, mate, amazing job, thanks for sharing
Wow...37Min.48Sec. without one ad. There is a 👍🏻 for that alone!!
Absolutely amazing process, people like you were called Wizards 300 years ago.
I didn't know why but I understand you 😂
I love how humans change scraps into beatiful shiny metals
What.... apposed to those non human dikheads? Yeah, I can't stand those alien bastards stuff, Looks like crap tbh or even those fukin squirrels stuff doesn't even compare to us humans. Personally ... I think they're all on meth because they're so fuking jittery and moving 900 miles an hour that they're fuking shit.
Humans are the only scrap
at what ph do you percipitate palladium? When do you add the formic acid? I can only see when you add sodium carbonate but can't see when you add the formic acid. Please tell when you add the acid. Will your palladium contain lead in the end? What if my nitric acid solution contained platinum, do I do the same way as palladium?
You can avoid adding the lead and just dissolve the ceramic in hydrofloric acid all the silica and ceramic will dissolve in the acid leaving the palladium as a powder ! Saving a few steps
Hydrofluoric acid?? HF? Did you mean hydrochloric acid?
Using hydrofluoric acid to avoid lead is like working with wild tigers to avoid having to work with house cats because you’re afraid of cats.
It probably prevent these morons from inhaling lead vapor.
Did you try to may be use an isotope reactor to make Paladium out of other elements. Looks not so dangerous...
And probably healthier on the lungs as well
@@kjpmi Only HF will dissolve the silicates, HCl won't touch it.
I tuned out halfway for a second and thought I was watching a backyard coffee brew
Yeah it’s a “blink and you’ll miss it” type of show
thís is a important document . thanks for this video , that's great
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. I believe I was snipping some mlccs just like those earlier today.
Same here 👍 its the best thing im finding on low grade boards apart from copper
and tantale =)
Tony Stark filming the first Iron Man suit being built in a cave.
Yeah bro
😠😠i
yep that made me laugh
I was waiting for Raza to interrupt him answering why it took so long
With a buncha scraps!
Burn> Ball mill to fine dust> treat dust with nitric acid> Filter and separate silver from palladium using HCl> Filter off AgCl and distil off nitric acid> Separate Pd from CuFe etc using ammonia, pd forms a complex of (NH2)PdCl2 that precipitates from the chilled solution.❤
Sounds good
شكرا على العمل الجيد
Real liked this video! What I did not like was the 15 commercials in the short amount of time that this video took to watch.
Вопрос к вам напишите пожалуйста когда в щелочном растворе есть платина и палладий при восстановлении муравьйной кислотой ,восстанавливаеться только палладий ,платину муравьйная кислота не восстанавливает ,спасибо за ответ.
Платину тоже
Just over 1% yield WRT original source material weight. Pretty decent payday, over $1000 USD, assuming capacitors didn't cost much.
Welcome
River deposits containing gold were treated with dilute sulfuric acid, nitric and hydrochloric to get rid of impurities and iron oxides, then the sample was dissolved in royal water and urea was used to neutralize nitric acid and the gold was precipitated with hydrazine. The amount of the precipitate was good and had a brown color, in addition to the sediment that had a reddish-brown color, but when I treated the sediment with hydrochloric acid, all the precipitate disappeared and dissolved in the acid except for a very small amount that came back and sedimented. I don't know what the problem is? Does hydrazine precipitate anything other than gold, or does it only precipitate gold? How can I recover the deposit?
Thank you very much
Fun fact : this metal is even more expensive than gold
@Tim Smith did im wrong ??? bro just think before you accuse me for lying
@Tim Smith why you quiet?? come on bro say something ???🤣🤣🤣 Or at least ask forgiveness
@Tim Smith whatever loser 😒😒😒
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@@junz57 ngomong kon gendeng...wkwk
I usually run when I hear robot voices on vids, but I stayed when I saw your hands. They look like mine
Well done, good video.
Thank you for bearing with the robot voice! :)
@@OwlTech333 I've subbed and ill check out more vids..... Probably more than once. Your tools are like mine too, especially the hammer :)
Nice to see somebody who doesnt do everything on brand new worktops using brand new tools with latex gloves on.
Propper bloke
A thousand bucks of palladium! nice.
wow 🤩🤩🤩 15g of this worth at least 900€!!!! good job!!!
Somehow i doubt that. mlcc capacitors have nickel electrodes or silver internally on X7R X5R NP0 (BaTiO3, etc) dielectric. Ag/Pd Ag/Pt is used only for solderable contacts (termination) where 3:1, 6:1 or even 97:3 Ag/Pd or Pt is used and it is maybe 15µm thick. if these caps have been desoldered, a good portion of the weight is also Sn or Sn/Pb. 1% noble metal of total weight is not impossible but expensive in manufacturing and higly unlikely: here is a link of a real cap :www.researchgate.net/figure/Cross-section-of-intentionally-cracked-MLSC-0805-47nF-50Volt-showing-the-crack-a_fig4_228895621 today also copper paste is used to reduce noble metal content.
@@SuperKillerkarnickel some yield 65g Pd /kg
Hi, I've been collecting and starting to get into this hobbie,, would you suggest a good mask to buy for this,, nitric acid and sulfuric acid etc., can be pretty dangerous,,, would you suggest a brand name and type that would be safe for me as a beginner,,,
I'm using 3M full face 6000 series mask with 60926 cartridges
Go to a restoration store that sell masks. They do free fitting to make sure it fits/ seals around your face. Thats the most important part. Always go full face. Every mask fits differently. They will test it on you.
@@cuzimnik25 what is a Restoration store?
@@cuzimnik25 what and where is a Reformation store,,?
Where can i sell capacitors in europe ? I can get some
Jesus. Hard work to smal piece. Good video.
Thanks 👍
That “small piece” is worth $1500… money for nothin… extracted from garbage, basically.
thanks for owltech so much channel
Our pleasure!
Super job 👍
Спасибо!
What do you do with the generated chemical waste?
This is a laboratory demonstration, garage work.
Does the price of the palladium produced cover the costs?
What you add at the time of Cupellation to remove copper and nickel??
lead
Result is not bad 🌟 👍 but I expected more from the Bulgarian bC capacitors ... Great video! 👍
yes the 100g test yielded 1.35g
@@OwlTech333 depends a lot on the size of the capacitors, so the bigger the more palladium ... in the blue ones we have decent amount of silver , too so in total not bad at all 😃
@@escrapchannel silver was about 4g when I tested the 100g capacitors so about 40g Ag /kg capacitors
This is Amazing, man! How can i recognized this specifily condensator tipe...?
Where can find this capacitor...?
@@leifercontreras4949 ruclips.net/video/vyKLPRFltVE/видео.html
Hello friebd did you using first sodium carbonate , and after formic acid ?
I dont see on video when you usin formic acide, can explain thank you
Very good miner👏👏👏 98% nice
All you need to do this , is a smelting pot,a Laboratory, a metal workshop , every type of Acid under the sun, Lead and Silver !!! 😂
Not exactly but it will make your task easier.
Friendly suggestions:
be sure to filter out ALL silver chloride or it will never have a shiny surface after melting.... silver contamination will be all over the surface of your metal otherwise.
Once you do the silver chloride filtering; you should be able to then add some sulfuric acid to the palladium solution to precipitate any remaining lead as lead sulfate. Filter again.
Both of these contaminants will leave that kind of surface look; almost taking away any possibility of it naturally being shiny.
Thank you for the useful information!
This is not easy to do at all ... This job requires knowledge and experience ... Bravo colleague ... All praise
Thanks a lot
That's really good
How do I know which ones to save? Do ones from crt tv boards have palladium ? Thanks
Yes they do, usually blue
What kind of machines did these mlcc come from? How old?
ruclips.net/video/9_AfZYozBXw/видео.html
What type of x-ray spectrometer do you use?
innov-x systems
How much were you expecting to get? It seems like washing the AgCl would be very difficult (to get all the Pd out).
after washing all Pd from the AgCl I got another 0.6g Pd
The one time I decided to melt a one troy ounce Palladium bar, i was surprised to discover the phenomenon of "spitting" whereby in the molten condition, palladium will absorb certain gasses in large amounts (Hydrogen if i recall acuratley), then upon cooling and before becoming solid, it will oclude or expel (spit) the same gaseous element.
I recall my jewelry casting texts mentioned dropping a small chunk of aluminum metal into the crucible after Palladium is completely molten and just prior to pouring into the casting mold., I believe pure sodium metal is also used for the same purpose.
The copious borax flux perhaps shields or minimized absorption of gaseous element.
But the aluminum or sodium acts insitu to react, combine with and remove the gas leaving an insoluble compound on the surface or scatred as a smoke or combustion product.
This can presumably eliminate the crater or swiss cheese apperance on palladium.
Wow thanks for the tip I'll try it next time
i believe aluminum absorbs nearby hydrogen when molten too. which is why degassing is important.
might be the same for other molten metals. which is kinda strange but cool.
them pesky hydrogen atoms....
What you mention about the absorption of Hydrogen is why Palladium electrodes are often used in LENR experiments (what used to be called "cold fusion"). After a large amount of H and Deuterium has been saturated into the surface lattice of the metal (by electrolysis), pulsed electromagnetic energy is inputted into the water bath. The added pulsed energy forces the H and its isotope deeper and deeper into the lattice compressing it, and eventually fusion happens randomly (first forming higher isotopes of H, then He). This is where the access heat seen in the experiments come from. Since Pons and Fleischmann first did it 31 years ago, over a hundred labs around the world have replicated it successfully; including the US Navy and NASA. They are both studying it now (NAVSEA Dahlgren labs, and NASA Glenn in Cleveland).
Other successful methods have used Nickel with Hydrogen.
But note the Palladium purity must be very high. A combination of that and not saturating the lattice with enough H, was why some of the first attempts failed in 1990 (M.I.T. being the most publicized) .
@@stevewindisch7400 very good read! Thanks!
@@stevewindisch7400 Nice read, but scientifically not exactly flawless.
Здорово, все классно и четко,ты скажи а почему после дробления просто в азотку не кинуть ,а или копирование уберете посторонние металлы со шлаком ?
What is with modern age blue and orange ceramic capacitors? Do they contain palladium too? I took apart 2 old 1990 thick TVs, 4 flatscreens and 2 pc screens and collected the capacitors - is it worth giving a shot or are the newer capacitors contain nothing serious
See if they are magnetic if they are chances to have PGMs are very slim
Good work sir ❤️
Thanks
awesome work... aprox. what is button worth and what do you have invested in time and resorces...
about 900EUR the plastic removal about 45 min, grinding about 1 hour, smelting took about 15 min, cupellation 30min, fine cupelling around 15 min, nitric acid dissolution 1.5hrs, filtration 1hr, precipitation 1.5hrs and washing 1hr., pelleting 5 min, melting 10 min, cleaning 15 min. I used about 3kg Pb, 180g Ag contacts, 0.4l HNO3, 0.8l HCl, 0.4kg NaOH, 0.5kg Na2CO3, borax, sulphamic acid, NaNO2
Sir I want your contact number for consultation of process can you contact me at 9228410027
amarmetal@gmail.com
انت مبدع وكيميائي جيد
Thanks
Im surprised you guys don't have a ball mill for the crushing part, would save you a lot of time and effort 🙂
Yeah we have to put one together
@@OwlTech333 👌
Good info great work
Glad it was helpful!
Will you use it for arc reactor ?
Сова,как всегда на высоте.😉
Спасибо!
really gg for your work
Appreciate it
If you want surface after melting like a gold use argon gas to cover hot pallad ball immediately after taking out torch.
Hi there,
I would like to now that whether it is possible to use SMBS to isolate gold from a mixture of other metal ion such as Cu, Zn, Sn, Ni, Fe, & etc. in an aqua regia solution ???????
Yes
What is the material of the bowl,
you made lead and silver bath.
Stainless steel or mild steel.
Stainless steel
You are great as we know you
V.nice thanks
Thank you!
Nice recovery, that should put a few beans in the pan. Excellent demonstration of the steps in this process. But for myself I would have liked to have heard more warning statements about lead vapors, platinum poising, mixing the acids, heating acids, and the chemicals used in the recovery process. I'm not faulting the video it really is an excellent demonstration. The recording is clean and sharp all the way through, narration was well planned and sequenced, and do not fear dropping the music insert and talking more. You have a good strong voice and command of the langlish.
I share this type of video with my grand children to educate them about lab safety, chemical processing, chemical reactions excetera. I saw the disclaimer at the start of the video and it will cover any legal coverage this video might need. The only reason I mention the safety to you at all is because you just never know when the viewer's mind will click on during the video and a comment anywhere from start to end might flash through in the future and save their life. Yes yes I know it's a long shot with a slim chance of happening but... Now think about this for a minute, what if it does happen? Your interactions with youtube could save a strangers from a permanent injury or even death. You might ever learn of it but in that one small action you have made this world a better place for us all to live.
Be safe brother and thank you for sharing your talent with us.
Well said I've been looking into this for while. but I don't know the score with the chemicals so I've stuck to collecting but my plan is to refine
I would like to second this in both giving you respect and for showing the entire process, I would however like to have known the amounts of the chemicals used and I'm not sure when you added the formic acid that you mentioned, palladium extraction and recovery is not covered that much as there might be a few other videos but have not found one that has been as complete as this and the only constructive criticism that I would give to you and say is if you maybe could add at least in the comments the amount of chemicals used in each step including the amount of lead and the amount of silver to the original 1.4 kg of capacitors and for my own entertainment and I'm sure others would like to know what the end result was in terms of yield of palladium and also please if you can add these measurements and amounts please do explain the Portland cement a bit more, I'm a little confused as well as when you poured out the molten mixture did you just use a cooking pan to make the metal harden when it was the lead silver and palladium mixture together? Also the Portland cement did you make The crucible out of Portland cement as well as use Portland cement to make the cupel? (I'm referring to the first step of the cupel and also the second step with the crucible that you used with the thin wall, was that made from Portland cement that was hardened and obviously mixed with water? Any sort of additional clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again for your time explaining and recording and editing this video and such detail as I know it is time consuming and you earned a loyal subscriber with just this video and look forward to seeing some of your others, I would like to see your method on gold recovery from the CPU and electronics parts, as well as if you have a easier method for electrolysis to recover gold from IC chips including mosfets and transistors. And any other precious metals, also any videos on recovering palladium from a catalytic converter would be appreciated and I'm sure others would enjoy as well. Thanks again and keep up the good videos and keep them coming! :-)
Thanks man very good
hello, if after burning the plastic plus the powder from the capacitors, can i just digest this powder in nitric acid without doing the copelation?thank you
Sure
@@OwlTech333 thank you
Еще вопрос ,у меня получается порошок черный как уголь ,у тебя серый ,почему аостанавливаю так примерно форматом и содой
Если я правильно понимаю суть процесса, чернь - это потому что он очень мелкий, дисперсный. Надо медленнеее процесс осаждения проводить, частями. Либо разделись раствор на несколько порций, и доливать свежий к уже осажденному.
The most amazing part of this video... They have running water!
Enough to cobble dogs with
سوال هل استطيع معرفة ما اللذي اضافه ببداية الفيديو عند الصهر .عندما قال. اضافة نقاط الاتصال ما اللذي اضافه على شكل قطعة قماش
Is your x-ray analyzer an app on your phone or device?
Where can I get one?
Thanks.
a device - handheld XRF analyzer
Thanks. Glad to hear you're alive.
How much did you pay for the 1.4 kilos of caps?
Buying price is from 150 to 300EUR
5:41 **Binging with Babish voice**
"Now add your sodium hydroxide, once again, *whisking constantly.* "
God that voice makes to want me punch a smug champaigne liberal so bad
Спасибо за хорошее видео!
Какой тигель используете для купеляции в горне?графит?шамот?
И как долго они служат?
Спасибо.
тигель из карбида кремния
@@OwlTech333 спасибо за ответ.
doesn't have any lab equipment, not even a hot plate with a stir bar or a decent filtering system ($200 for both, new), but has an XRF analyzer (~$5-10k used). makes perfect sense!
Hahahaha XRF analyser... that's the word I was searching for
What would that small metal pellet compresser be called and where would one get something like that
pellet press die set
So i have a bunch of class rings marked palladium plus but i have no clue how much palladium they contain does anyone no please?
I love that you care for the environment and recycle!
si después de procesarlo con gases tóxicos y dañinos
@@raiterkiller3203 I might have been ironic.
Nice. Why to add caustic soda when you burn?
dissolves ceramics
Спасибо за видео,лайк. Было интересно.
Спасибо за просмотр!
@@OwlTech333 плюс подписка, спасибо.
I am curious about whether electrolysis is allow to extract the Pd from the solution?🤔
Hmm sounds like a plan
Beautifull
Olá amigo, posso substituir o ácido fórmico, por formol?
Доброго времени суток. и с новым годом! красивое купелирование палладия показал. Но я серебро бы цинком из Доре забрал бы. Цинк с серебром на дно уходит, оставляя палладиевый Доре на верху расплавленного свинца, и сливая с верху свинец с палладием его и далее перерабатываем а цинк с серебром можно оставить на другую плавку с другим материалом.
Good day. and happy New Year! beautiful melange of palladium showed. But I would take the silver from Dore with zinc. Zinc with silver goes to the bottom, leaving palladium doré on top of the molten lead, and merging lead with palladium from the top and further processing it, and zinc and silver can be left for another melt with a different material.
С Новым Годом! Я читал о процессе Паркса, но никогда не пробовал. Цинковая корка должна плавать поверх свинца вместе с серебром, хотя не знаю, как будет вести себя палладий.
@@OwlTech333 Надо попробовать, но к сожалению я это сделать не могу причина, - после инсульта почти не хожу и мне без сопровождающего не обойтись. Так что экспериментируйте, всем будет интересно. А кто читает по русски пусть ознакомится с этим материалом
www.isasmelt.com/en/download/TechnicalPapersBBOC/Operation%20of%20the%20BBOC%20at%20BRM_rus.pdf
If you think I'm going to go through 11 advertising breaks in a 38 minute video you're sadly mistaken
RUclips Premium is another option to consider
Use youtube vanced for android and ublock origin for pc, get rid of ads
You could just get RUclips premium, as was mentioned.
I haven’t watched an ad on RUclips in years.
@@kjpmi you know youtube premium is too expensive for some people?
@@prakharmishra3000 if you can’t afford $11.99 a month maybe you should be looking for a job instead of watching precious metal recovery and refining videos online.
Or...don’t complain about the ads. If you’re in no position to do something about it, or you don’t know how to use a free ad blocker at the very least then don’t complain.
Did you get the silver back as well
Yes I recover the silver too
Привет! Очень интересная переработка!!! Спасибо! Лайк
Спасибо Олег!
@@OwlTech333 bmb
@@OwlTech333 очень понравилось,молодец
@@valyai5687 Спасибо!
Simple and good..
Thank you!
If from green solution(exp contaminate with nikel.copper) . Can use this tutorial step ?
Answer please
yes
very nice. why don't you use DMG? is it better to use sulphamic acid?
I used the sulphamic acid to precipitate any lead that may be present
El ácido nitrico por sí solo puede disolver el paladio)?
why does it have to be heated on top of cement after coupling? what does it do to remove?
oxidises base metals, and removes them
Do you know where to soy what brand this capacitor is and where tô buy it?
How do you remove so much impurities from cyanide solution?
Как всегда крутой объём сырья
Спасибо!
What kind of safety do you take while capeling? Seems dangerous vaporizing lead.
3M full face 6000 series mask with 60926 cartridges
lead is not vaporised, it is converted to lead oxide, which is reduced to lead metal again.
@@OwlTech333 Well it may not be vaporized but above 900f lead oxide fumes/vapor are released. And is readily absorbed by your bare hands. It also coats the area with lead oxide nano dust that is extremely difficult to remove.
You doit this macic more profesional then me :) brother. I love it.
Thank you Dusan!
Dusan you have a vrey good chanel on youtube dont be scared everybody is at his level . The mission is to offer godd information and you do that too!
@999 Dusan @@davidgold531By no means am I a professional, I just happen to have access to good scrap. :)
Good job
Thanks
What piece of technology is at the 37 min mark , testing the metal?
XRF gun
I love the smell of hydrofluoric acid in the mourning.
15g is like ~1100 USD.. not that bad, or is it?
For pure palladium "yes"... Needs to be purified by a more skilled metallurgist. Which would cost as much as the palladium
Can we recover platinum or palladium from pf ceramic capacitor14681 ?
....Gut gemacht...
Mögen !